I try to set up binkd and when I specify the port to the host node I get this error:

getaddrinfo failed: Servname not supported for ai_socktype (-8)

The line for the node looks like this:

node 2:203/0 eljaco.se:24555 secretpasswd
(passwd removed)

If I remove the portnumber, the output says: SYS Please use port 24555

Conny

--- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.0
* Origin: news://eljaco.se:4119 (2:203/2)

Hello Conny!

On 30 Jan 2022, Conny Enström said the following...

I try to set up binkd and when I specify the port to the host node I get this error:

getaddrinfo failed: Servname not supported for ai_socktype (-8)

The line for the node looks like this:

node 2:203/0 eljaco.se:24555 secretpasswd

Could this possible be the same as:
https://github.com/pgul/binkd/issues/27

I'm using binkd 1.1a-111 on Debian now, and in that version things work as expected (whereas earlier versions did not).

I'm not sure exactly which version of binkd that fixed this, though.

Best regards
Bj”rn

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/28 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)

Den 2022-01-30 kl. 15:55, skrev 2201/137:

Hello Conny!

On 30 Jan 2022, Conny Enstr÷m said the following...

 CE>> I try to set up binkd and when I specify the port to the host node

I get

 CE>> this error:

 CE>> getaddrinfo failed: Servname not supported for ai_socktype (-8)

 CE>> The line for the node looks like this:

 CE>> node 2:203/0 eljaco.se:24555 secretpasswd

Could this possible be the same as: https://github.com/pgul/binkd/issues/27

I'm using binkd 1.1a-111 on Debian now, and in that version things work
as expected (whereas earlier versions did not).

I'm not sure exactly which version of binkd that fixed this, though.

Best regards
Björn

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/28 (Linux/64)
 * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)

I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from Ubuntu repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version with this problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.

The ufw is disabled completely (Ubuntu Fire Wall)

But as I read on in the your link it says something about:

netstat -anp | grep SYN
tcp 0 1 192.168.1.5:42058 219.89.83.33:* SYN_SENT 8760/binkd: call to


Is this something created when the connection is made or something resistant somewhere?
i can not see this when I use the command: sudo netstat -anp | grep SYN

Conny

--- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.0
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Hello Conny!

On 30 Jan 2022, Conny Enström said the following...

I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from Ubuntu repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version with this problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.

Yep! Most likely that will solve the problem.

(I believe the colon and port number were interpreted as part of the hostname in the earlier versions of binkd, leading to this error...)

tcp 0 1 192.168.1.5:42058 219.89.83.33:* SYN_SENT 8760/binkd: call to

Is this something created when the connection is made or something resistant somewhere?

That was just a check to see what binkd tried to connect to -- in that case, port * = 0 of the remote hub (219.89.83.33), which was not the desired port. =)

The SYN_SENT status indicates that it has attempted to start the TCP handshake, but has not gotten any further.

Best regards
Bj”rn

--- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/28 (Linux/64)
* Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)

On 30.1.2022 19:23, Conny Enström wrote:

 CE>> node 2:203/0 eljaco.se:24555 secretpasswd

BW> Could this possible be the same as:
BW> https://github.com/pgul/binkd/issues/27

BW> I'm using binkd 1.1a-111 on Debian now, and in that version things work
BW> as expected (whereas earlier versions did not).

BW> I'm not sure exactly which version of binkd that fixed this, though.

BW> Best regards
BW> Björn

BW> --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/28 (Linux/64)
BW>  * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)

I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from
Ubuntu repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version with
this problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.

You should compile your own -113, the latest. Please read the FAQ posted here every week.

Or you could find an uplink who uses a standard binkp port. :D

Anyways, I can connect 2:203/0:

+ 20:18 [21903] call to 2:203/0@fidonet
20:18 [21903] trying eljaco.se. [2001:470:27:302::2]:24555...
20:18 [21903] connected
+ 20:18 [21903] outgoing session with eljaco.se:24555 [2001:470:27:302::2]
- 20:18 [21903] OPT CRAM-MD5-d36ccbc24710cc05e43ca2c9968a6dee
+ 20:18 [21903] Remote requests MD mode
- 20:18 [21903] SYS Felten's Sharp System
- 20:18 [21903] ZYZ Björn Felten
- 20:18 [21903] LOC Säve, Sweden
- 20:18 [21903] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
- 20:18 [21903] TIME Sun, 30 Jan 2022 19:18:56 +0100
- 20:18 [21903] VER binkd/1.1a-65/Win32 binkp/1.1
+ 20:18 [21903] addr: 2:203/0@fidonet
+ 20:18 [21903] addr: 2:20/0@fidonet
+ 20:18 [21903] addr: 2:2/2@fidonet
+ 20:18 [21903] addr: 2:203/2@fidonet
- 20:18 [21903] OPT EXTCMD
+ 20:18 [21903] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
+ 20:18 [21903] done (to 2:203/0@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
20:18 [21903] session closed, quitting...
20:18 [21902] rc(21903)=0
20:18 [21902] the queue is empty, quitting...



Binkd 1.1a-113 (Nov 15 2021 10:49:55/Linux)
Compilation flags: gcc, zlib, bzlib2, perl, https, bwlim, af_force.
Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

'Tommi

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Conny wrote (2022-01-30):

 CE>>> getaddrinfo failed: Servname not supported for ai_socktype (-8)

 CE>>> The line for the node looks like this:

 CE>>> node 2:203/0 eljaco.se:24555 secretpasswd

Could this possible be the same as:
https://github.com/pgul/binkd/issues/27

I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from Ubuntu repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version with this problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.

1.1a-99 is buggy and has exactly that problem (and a few others). I guess you are using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. AFAIK you have to compile binkd from github or get the source package from a newer Ubuntu (or Debian) and build that.

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On 30.1.2022 20:40, Oli wrote:

CE> I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from Ubuntu
CE> repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version with this
CE> problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.

1.1a-99 is buggy and has exactly that problem (and a few others). I
guess you are using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. AFAIK you have to compile binkd
from github or get the source package from a newer Ubuntu (or Debian)
and build that.

If you don't like to compile your own, you could try that:

http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/binkd/binkd_1.1a-111-1_amd64.deb

'Tommi

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Tommi wrote (2022-01-30):

On 30.1.2022 20:40, Oli wrote:

I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from
Ubuntu repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version
with this problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.

1.1a-99 is buggy and has exactly that problem (and a few others). I
guess you are using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. AFAIK you have to compile binkd
from github or get the source package from a newer Ubuntu (or Debian)
and build that.

If you don't like to compile your own, you could try that:

http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/binkd/binkd_1.1a-111-1_amd64.deb

Won't work. Needs libperl5.32, but Ubuntu 20.04 has libperl5.30 only.

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On 30.1.2022 21:35, Oli wrote:

I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from
Ubuntu repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version
with this problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.

1.1a-99 is buggy and has exactly that problem (and a few others). I
guess you are using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. AFAIK you have to compile binkd
from github or get the source package from a newer Ubuntu (or Debian)
and build that.

If you don't like to compile your own, you could try that:

http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/binkd/binkd_1.1a-111-1_amd64.deb

Won't work. Needs libperl5.32, but Ubuntu 20.04 has libperl5.30 only.

Yeah, ok then.

But binkd works without perl just fine. :)

'Tommi

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Tommi wrote (2022-01-30):

If you don't like to compile your own, you could try that:

http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/binkd/binkd_1.1a-111-1_amd64.deb

Won't work. Needs libperl5.32, but Ubuntu 20.04 has libperl5.30 only.

Yeah, ok then.

But binkd works without perl just fine. :)

Most sysops never ever make use of the perl hooks. But it is unfortunately a dependency (dynamically linked) in Debian/Ubuntu:

# ldd /usr/sbin/binkd
linux-vdso.so.1
libbz2.so.1.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libbz2.so.1.0
libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1
libresolv.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libresolv.so.2
libperl.so.5.32 => /usr/lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libperl.so.5.32
libpthread.so.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libpthread.so.0
libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6
libdl.so.2 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libdl.so.2
libm.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6
libcrypt.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libcrypt.so.1
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2

A statically linked binkd without perl for Linux would be nice.

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30 Jan 22 21:21, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

A statically linked binkd without perl for Linux would be nice.

Perhaps I can help with that:


===========cut&paste from terminal============================
Welcome to Ubuntu 21.10 (GNU/Linux 5.13.0-27-generic x86_64)

Last login: Sun Jan 30 18:23:17 2022 from 2601:48:c500:9340::bd46
ftn@Hydra:~$ ldd bin/binkd
linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffd7412e000)
libbz2.so.1.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libbz2.so.1.0 (0x00007f017c583000)
libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x00007f017c567000)
libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f017c33f000)
/lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f017c5db000)
ftn@Hydra:~$ uname -a
Linux Hydra 5.13.0-27-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 12 17:36:47 UTC 2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
ftn@Hydra:~$ binkd -v
Binkd 1.1a-113 (Jan 25 2022 16:02:28/Linux) ==============================================================


I've compiled my binkd without perl support (don't use it, since I'm inet only, the only nodelist I need is binkp.net lookups)

If you can use it, I can compress and fileattached the binary to you.

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Den 2022-01-30 kl. 19:22, skrev 2221/1:

On 30.1.2022 19:23, Conny Enström wrote:

   CE>> node 2:203/0 eljaco.se:24555 secretpasswd

  BW> Could this possible be the same as:
  BW> https://github.com/pgul/binkd/issues/27

  BW> I'm using binkd 1.1a-111 on Debian now, and in that version
things work
  BW> as expected (whereas earlier versions did not).

  BW> I'm not sure exactly which version of binkd that fixed this,
though.

  BW> Best regards
  BW> Björn

  BW> --- Mystic BBS v1.12 A48 2022/01/28 (Linux/64)
  BW>   * Origin: Star Collision BBS, Uppsala, Sweden (2:201/137)

I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from
Ubuntu repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version with
this problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.

You should compile your own -113, the latest. Please read the FAQ posted here every week.

Or you could find an uplink who uses a standard binkp port. :D

Anyways, I can connect 2:203/0:

+ 20:18 [21903] call to 2:203/0@fidonet
  20:18 [21903] trying eljaco.se. [2001:470:27:302::2]:24555...
  20:18 [21903] connected
+ 20:18 [21903] outgoing session with eljaco.se:24555 [2001:470:27:302::2] - 20:18 [21903] OPT CRAM-MD5-d36ccbc24710cc05e43ca2c9968a6dee
+ 20:18 [21903] Remote requests MD mode
- 20:18 [21903] SYS Felten's Sharp System
- 20:18 [21903] ZYZ Björn Felten
- 20:18 [21903] LOC Säve, Sweden
- 20:18 [21903] NDL 115200,TCP,BINKP
- 20:18 [21903] TIME Sun, 30 Jan 2022 19:18:56 +0100
- 20:18 [21903] VER binkd/1.1a-65/Win32 binkp/1.1
+ 20:18 [21903] addr: 2:203/0@fidonet
+ 20:18 [21903] addr: 2:20/0@fidonet
+ 20:18 [21903] addr: 2:2/2@fidonet
+ 20:18 [21903] addr: 2:203/2@fidonet
- 20:18 [21903] OPT EXTCMD
+ 20:18 [21903] Remote supports EXTCMD mode
+ 20:18 [21903] done (to 2:203/0@fidonet, OK, S/R: 0/0 (0/0 bytes))
  20:18 [21903] session closed, quitting...
  20:18 [21902] rc(21903)=0
  20:18 [21902] the queue is empty, quitting...

Binkd 1.1a-113 (Nov 15 2021 10:49:55/Linux)
Compilation flags: gcc, zlib, bzlib2, perl, https, bwlim, af_force. Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

'Tommi

--- Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.1
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I will try to compile 113.

Conny

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Den 2022-01-30 kl. 19:40, skrev 2280/464.47:

Conny wrote (2022-01-30):

  CE>>>> getaddrinfo failed: Servname not supported for ai_socktype (-8)

  CE>>>> The line for the node looks like this:

  CE>>>> node 2:203/0 eljaco.se:24555 secretpasswd

 BW>>> Could this possible be the same as:
 BW>>> https://github.com/pgul/binkd/issues/27

 CE>> I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from

Ubuntu

 CE>> repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version with this
 CE>> problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.

1.1a-99 is buggy and has exactly that problem (and a few others). I
guess you are using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. AFAIK you have to compile binkd
from github or get the source package from a newer Ubuntu (or Debian)
and build that.

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I downloaded binkd_1.1a-111-1_amd64.deb, but this depend on libperl5.32, this dependencies can go on for ever as I recall.

Conny

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Den 2022-01-31 kl. 04:26, skrev 1266/420:

30 Jan 22 21:21, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

 Ol>> A statically linked binkd without perl for Linux would be nice.

Perhaps I can help with that:

===========cut&paste from terminal============================
Welcome to Ubuntu 21.10 (GNU/Linux 5.13.0-27-generic x86_64)

Last login: Sun Jan 30 18:23:17 2022 from 2601:48:c500:9340::bd46 ftn@Hydra:~$ ldd bin/binkd
        linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffd7412e000)
        libbz2.so.1.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libbz2.so.1.0 (0x00007f017c583000)
        libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x00007f017c567000)
        libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f017c33f000)
        /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f017c5db000) ftn@Hydra:~$ uname -a
Linux Hydra 5.13.0-27-generic #29-Ubuntu SMP Wed Jan 12 17:36:47 UTC
2022 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
ftn@Hydra:~$ binkd -v
Binkd 1.1a-113 (Jan 25 2022 16:02:28/Linux) ==============================================================

I've compiled my binkd without perl support (don't use it,  since I'm inet only,  the only nodelist I need is binkp.net lookups)

If you can use it, I can compress and fileattached the binary to you.

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I could try it, If you have it.

Conny

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Den 2022-01-30 kl. 19:48, skrev 2221/1:

On 30.1.2022 20:40, Oli wrote:

  CE> I use Binkd 1.1a-99 (Oct 18 2019 19:27:01/Linux), installed from
Ubuntu
  CE> repo. And it seems in your link this is the exact version with this
  CE> problem, I will see if i can find a up tp date version.

1.1a-99 is buggy and has exactly that problem (and a few others). I
guess you are using Ubuntu 20.04 LTS. AFAIK you have to compile binkd
from github or get the source package from a newer Ubuntu (or Debian)
and build that.

If you don't like to compile your own, you could try that:

http://ftp.se.debian.org/debian/pool/main/b/binkd/binkd_1.1a-111-1_amd64.deb

'Tommi

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Is there a similar software that works insdead of binkd, and working in "older" releases?
Or I must wait until 2025 when the LTS comes to an end, I don't want to go thru a new install from scratch again if I'm not forced to.

--- Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/91.5.0
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Scott wrote (2022-01-30):

30 Jan 22 21:21, you wrote to Tommi Koivula:

A statically linked binkd without perl for Linux would be nice.

Perhaps I can help with that:

===========cut&paste from terminal============================ ftn@Hydra:~$ ldd bin/binkd
linux-vdso.so.1 (0x00007ffd7412e000)
libbz2.so.1.0 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libbz2.so.1.0 (0x00007f017c583000) libz.so.1 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libz.so.1 (0x00007f017c567000) libc.so.6 => /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6 (0x00007f017c33f000) /lib64/ld-linux-x86-64.so.2 (0x00007f017c5db000)

I've compiled my binkd without perl support (don't use it, since I'm
inet only, the only nodelist I need is binkp.net lookups)

If you can use it, I can compress and fileattached the binary to you.

It was more in response to Conny's problem with Ubuntu 20.04 LTS and an outdated binkd in the distro. I do use the perl hooks with binkd and compile it myself.

Your version is still not a statically linked binary, which would look more like this:

~ $ ldd .local/bin/restic
not a dynamic executable
~ $ ldd .local/bin/zig
statically linked

Your binkd does not run on a Linux without glibc, libz or libbz2. Usually this isn't a problem as most Linux distros use glibc and have libbz2 installed (most famous exception is Alpine Linux, but even that has a libc6-compat package).

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Conny wrote (2022-01-31):

Is there a similar software that works insdead of binkd, and working in "older" releases? Or I must wait until 2025 when the LTS comes to an end, I don't want to go thru a new install from scratch again if I'm not
forced to.

Not anything I would recommend, if you already have a configured binkd installation. Maybe try the compiled binkd from Scott. We also can help, if you have troubles compiling it yourself. Or I can try to compile the Debian package for Ubuntu 20.04.

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Den 2022-02-01 kl. 10:17, skrev 2280/464.47:

Conny wrote (2022-01-31):

 CE>> Is there a similar software that works insdead of binkd, and

working in

 CE>> "older" releases? Or I must wait until 2025 when the LTS comes to

an end,

 CE>> I don't want to go thru a new install from scratch again if I'm not
 CE>> forced to.

Not anything I would recommend, if you already have a configured binkd installation. Maybe try the compiled binkd from Scott. We also can help,
if you have troubles compiling it yourself. Or I can try to compile the Debian package for Ubuntu 20.04.

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Ok actually I use Linux Mint 20.03 "una" but it's equal to Ubuntu 20.04, they use the same package base.

But if I still compile it, binkd still want to use libperl5.32?

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Conny wrote (2022-02-01):

Ok actually I use Linux Mint 20.03 "una" but it's equal to Ubuntu 20.04, they use the same package base.

But if I still compile it, binkd still want to use libperl5.32?

No, then can be compiled against libperl5.30. By default the perl feature is disabled.

You can also try this static binary (without perl):

https://alerts-give-nickname-digest.trycloudflare.com/binkd-1.1a113-x86_64-static.zip

(temporary URL)

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Den 2022-02-01 kl. 16:52, skrev 2280/464.47:

Conny wrote (2022-02-01):

 CE>> Ok actually I use Linux Mint 20.03 "una" but it's equal to Ubuntu

20.04,

 CE>> they use the same package base.

 CE>> But if I still compile it, binkd still want to use libperl5.32?

No, then can be compiled against libperl5.30. By default the perl
feature is disabled.

You can also try this static binary (without perl):

https://alerts-give-nickname-digest.trycloudflare.com/binkd-1.1a113-x86_64-static.zip

(temporary URL)

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Yes! Success!

And now the rest of the setup, I have all other functions for Fidonet in my BBS software (All Amiga), TrapDoor full registered pacḱage.
Is it a standard text handling format for all messages on any system for Fidonet?

The thing is to figure out what and where to change in all cfg files for my new Fidoadress for TrapList, TrapToss,TrapTell, TrapToss as I can't remember wich is doing what in the system.

One thing I noticed that this did not work in binkd.cfg, "the aso style outbound", is this required for an Amiga system?

# Use Amiga Style Outbound (ASO)
#
# aso

Otherwise I must config Crashmail in the Linux system.

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01 Feb 22 10:12, you wrote to me:

Your version is still not a statically linked binary, which would look more like this:

Very true, I just thought it might help as I keep the dynamic libraries to a reasonable minimum. The binary should run on his 20.04 LTS install without too much trouble.

Your binkd does not run on a Linux without glibc, libz or libbz2.
Usually this isn't a problem as most Linux distros use glibc and have libbz2 installed (most famous exception is Alpine Linux, but even that
has a libc6-compat package).

I do prefer Gentoo as my goto Linux distro; however, Ubuntu 20.10 had all the bits for ZFS "in-the-box" so to speak. Someday (wishful thinking here), I'll have time to sort out Gentoo and ZFS; at which point I'll redo this machine.


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Conny wrote (2022-02-01):

Yes! Success!

And now the rest of the setup, I have all other functions for Fidonet in my BBS software (All Amiga), TrapDoor full registered pacḱage. Is it a standard text handling format for all messages on any system for Fidonet?

The thing is to figure out what and where to change in all cfg files for my new Fidoadress for TrapList, TrapToss,TrapTell, TrapToss as I can't remember wich is doing what in the system.

One thing I noticed that this did not work in binkd.cfg, "the aso style outbound", is this required for an Amiga system?

# Use Amiga Style Outbound (ASO)
#
# aso

No idea if it is required for Amiga or if TrapDoor can be configured for BSO too. Binkd does support ASO, if it is build with --with-aso (which I did):

$ ./binkd -vv
Binkd 1.1a-113 (Feb 1 2022 13:53:00/Linux)
Compilation flags: clang, https, amiga_4d_outbound, bwlim.
Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

Otherwise I must config Crashmail in the Linux system.

Also a good option. Btw, I'm using a modified Crashmail with ASO :).

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01 Feb 22 10:12, you wrote to me:

 Ol>> Your version is still not a statically linked binary, which would

look

 Ol>> more like this:

Very true,  I just thought it might help as I keep the dynamic libraries to a reasonable minimum.  The binary should run on his 20.04 LTS install without too much trouble.

 Ol>> Your binkd does not run on a Linux without glibc, libz or libbz2.
 Ol>> Usually this isn't a problem as most Linux distros use glibc and have
 Ol>> libbz2 installed (most famous exception is Alpine Linux, but even

that

 Ol>> has a libc6-compat package).

I do prefer Gentoo as my goto Linux distro;  however,  Ubuntu 20.10 had all the bits for ZFS "in-the-box" so to speak.  Someday (wishful
thinking here), I'll have time to sort out Gentoo and ZFS; at which
point I'll redo this machine.

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I installed the pre compiled binary for latest version and it works!

The other problem I struggle with is the sync with my Amiga BBS that share the same harddrive as the paths for Outbound and Inbound with binkd.

I prefer to try to run the software from my old installation since it's all configured in the Amiga system. I don't know what files binkd want and what files yet. The messages I write in the BBS are saved as xxxxx.MSG.

Its a looong time since I knew all about this and how it worked and in what order, and to run everyting automaticly.

Conny

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Den 2022-02-01 kl. 20:58, skrev 2280/464.47:

Conny wrote (2022-02-01):

 CE>> Yes! Success!

 CE>> And now the rest of the setup, I have all other functions for

Fidonet in

 CE>> my BBS software (All Amiga), TrapDoor full registered pacḱage. Is

it a

 CE>> standard text handling format for all messages on any system for

Fidonet?

 CE>> The thing is to figure out what and where to change in all cfg

files for

 CE>> my new Fidoadress for TrapList, TrapToss,TrapTell, TrapToss as I

can't

 CE>> remember wich is doing what in the system.

 CE>> One thing I noticed that this did not work in binkd.cfg, "the aso

style

 CE>> outbound", is this required for an Amiga system?

 CE>> # Use Amiga Style Outbound (ASO)
 CE>> #
 CE>> # aso

No idea if it is required for Amiga or if TrapDoor can be configured for BSO too.  Binkd does support ASO, if it is build with --with-aso (which
I did):

Ok, I will try to switch it on in the cfg file. :-)

$ ./binkd -vv
Binkd 1.1a-113 (Feb  1 2022 13:53:00/Linux)
Compilation flags: clang, https, amiga_4d_outbound, bwlim.
Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

 CE>> Otherwise I must config Crashmail in the Linux system.

Also a good option. Btw, I'm using a modified Crashmail with ASO :).

I prefer to try and see if it's possible for binkd and the TrapDoor software to cooperate, since all that is allready in my Amiga system.
The problem is to figure out what software is doing what and in wich order. I had all this setup with scripts for Poll, Toss, packing and so on back in the days.

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Conny wrote (2022-02-01):

 CE>>> # Use Amiga Style Outbound (ASO)
 CE>>> #
 CE>>> # aso

No idea if it is required for Amiga or if TrapDoor can be configured
for BSO too.  Binkd does support ASO, if it is build with --with-aso
(which I did):

Ok, I will try to switch it on in the cfg file. :-)

$ ./binkd -vv
Binkd 1.1a-113 (Feb  1 2022 13:53:00/Linux)
Compilation flags: clang, https, amiga_4d_outbound, bwlim.
Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

 CE>>> Otherwise I must config Crashmail in the Linux system.

Also a good option. Btw, I'm using a modified Crashmail with ASO :).

I prefer to try and see if it's possible for binkd and the TrapDoor software to cooperate, since all that is allready in my Amiga system. The problem is to figure out what software is doing what and in wich order. I had all this setup with scripts for Poll, Toss, packing and so on back in the days.

From TrapToss.Man:

4.12. Outbound Handling

To facilitate cooperation with a vast number of mailers,
TrapToss supports a number of different outbound directory
formats. You can choose between 2D and 4D handling of Netmail
bundles, of EchoMail (arcmail) bundles, and of Flow files. The
keywords (NO)FORCE4DMO, (NO)OLDSTYLEMO, (NO)OLDSTYLEFLO and
(NO)OUT4D control this. Their defaults are set for perfect usage
with the TrapDoor mailer.


It looks like TrapToss / TrapDoor only support 2D BSO (without zones and points as fake nets) and 4D ASO. I think 4D ASO is the better option.

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Conny wrote (2022-02-01):

  CE>>>> # Use Amiga Style Outbound (ASO)
  CE>>>> #
  CE>>>> # aso

; No idea if it is required for Amiga or if TrapDoor can be configured
; for BSO too.  Binkd does support ASO, if it is build with --with-aso
; (which I did):

 CE>> Ok, I will try to switch it on in the cfg file. :-)

; $ ./binkd -vv
; Binkd 1.1a-113 (Feb  1 2022 13:53:00/Linux)
; Compilation flags: clang, https, amiga_4d_outbound, bwlim.
; Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

  CE>>>> Otherwise I must config Crashmail in the Linux system.

; Also a good option. Btw, I'm using a modified Crashmail with ASO :).

 CE>> I prefer to try and see if it's possible for binkd and the TrapDoor
 CE>> software to cooperate, since all that is allready in my Amiga

system. The

 CE>> problem is to figure out what software is doing what and in wich

order. I

 CE>> had all this setup with scripts for Poll, Toss, packing and so on

back in

 CE>> the days.

From TrapToss.Man:

 4.12. Outbound Handling

       To facilitate cooperation with a vast number of mailers,
     TrapToss supports a number of different outbound directory
     formats. You can choose between 2D and 4D handling of Netmail
     bundles, of EchoMail (arcmail) bundles, and of Flow files. The
     keywords (NO)FORCE4DMO, (NO)OLDSTYLEMO, (NO)OLDSTYLEFLO and
     (NO)OUT4D control this. Their defaults are set for perfect usage
     with the TrapDoor mailer.

It looks like TrapToss / TrapDoor only support 2D BSO (without zones and points as fake nets) and 4D ASO. I think 4D ASO is the better option.

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Do you have the complete manual for TrapToss / TrapDoor? My files are on original floppys and I can not read them at the moment.

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Conny wrote (2022-02-01):

It looks like TrapToss / TrapDoor only support 2D BSO (without zones
and points as fake nets) and 4D ASO. I think 4D ASO is the better
option.

Do you have the complete manual for TrapToss / TrapDoor? My files are
on original floppys and I can not read them at the moment.

https://aminet.net/search?query=trapdoor https://aminet.net/comm/fido/TD_1_84.lha

https://aminet.net/search?query=traptoss https://aminet.net/comm/fido/TrapToss_1_50.lzh

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Conny wrote (2022-02-01):

; It looks like TrapToss / TrapDoor only support 2D BSO (without zones
; and points as fake nets) and 4D ASO. I think 4D ASO is the better
; option.

 CE>>    Do you have the complete manual for TrapToss / TrapDoor? My

files are

 CE>> on original floppys and I can not read them at the moment.

https://aminet.net/search?query=trapdoor https://aminet.net/comm/fido/TD_1_84.lha

https://aminet.net/search?query=traptoss https://aminet.net/comm/fido/TrapToss_1_50.lzh

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Tnx, I did not think of that! :-)

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Den 2022-02-01 kl. 21:43, skrev 2280/464.47:

Conny wrote (2022-02-01):

  CE>>>> # Use Amiga Style Outbound (ASO)
  CE>>>> #
  CE>>>> # aso

; No idea if it is required for Amiga or if TrapDoor can be configured
; for BSO too.  Binkd does support ASO, if it is build with --with-aso
; (which I did):

 CE>> Ok, I will try to switch it on in the cfg file. :-)

; $ ./binkd -vv
; Binkd 1.1a-113 (Feb  1 2022 13:53:00/Linux)
; Compilation flags: clang, https, amiga_4d_outbound, bwlim.
; Facilities: fts5004 ipv6

  CE>>>> Otherwise I must config Crashmail in the Linux system.

; Also a good option. Btw, I'm using a modified Crashmail with ASO :).

 CE>> I prefer to try and see if it's possible for binkd and the TrapDoor
 CE>> software to cooperate, since all that is allready in my Amiga

system. The

 CE>> problem is to figure out what software is doing what and in wich

order. I

 CE>> had all this setup with scripts for Poll, Toss, packing and so on

back in

 CE>> the days.

From TrapToss.Man:

 4.12. Outbound Handling

       To facilitate cooperation with a vast number of mailers,
     TrapToss supports a number of different outbound directory
     formats. You can choose between 2D and 4D handling of Netmail
     bundles, of EchoMail (arcmail) bundles, and of Flow files. The
     keywords (NO)FORCE4DMO, (NO)OLDSTYLEMO, (NO)OLDSTYLEFLO and
     (NO)OUT4D control this. Their defaults are set for perfect usage
     with the TrapDoor mailer.

It looks like TrapToss / TrapDoor only support 2D BSO (without zones and points as fake nets) and 4D ASO. I think 4D ASO is the better option.

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I downloaded the trapToss archive from Aminet but when I uncompress it all the textfiles are empty, the filename is there but contains no text at all?! I used FTP to get it, is it a broken archive or is it packed intentionally with zero text files? No error when unpack it.

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Hi Conny,

On 2022-02-04 22:35:00, you wrote to Oli:

I downloaded the trapToss archive from Aminet but when I uncompress it
all the textfiles are empty, the filename is there but contains no
text at all?! I used FTP to get it, is it a broken archive or is it
packed intentionally with zero text files? No error when unpack it.

I got the same file, the docs are fine and have content:

# ls -l Docs
total 364
-rw-r----- 1 root root 42708 1992-02-15 16:41:12 FidoNet.Man
-rw-r----- 1 root root 4163 1992-11-07 01:44:18 Registration.txt
-rw-r----- 1 root root 2062 1992-11-07 01:44:18 SupportCenters.txt
-rw-r----- 1 root root 142710 1993-03-27 10:48:16 TrapToss.Man
-rw-r----- 1 root root 166353 1993-03-28 00:31:10 TrapToss.guide
-rw-r----- 1 root root 510 1993-03-28 00:32:20 TrapToss.guide.info

There must be something wrong with your lzh unpacker?


Bye, Wilfred.

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Hi Conny,

On 2022-02-04 22:35:00, you wrote to Oli:

 CE>> I downloaded the trapToss archive from Aminet but when I

uncompress it

 CE>> all the textfiles are empty, the filename is there but contains no
 CE>> text at all?! I used FTP to get it, is it a broken archive or is it
 CE>> packed intentionally with zero text files? No error when unpack it.

I got the same file, the docs are fine and have content:

# ls -l Docs
total 364
-rw-r----- 1 root root  42708 1992-02-15 16:41:12 FidoNet.Man
-rw-r----- 1 root root   4163 1992-11-07 01:44:18 Registration.txt -rw-r----- 1 root root   2062 1992-11-07 01:44:18 SupportCenters.txt -rw-r----- 1 root root 142710 1993-03-27 10:48:16 TrapToss.Man
-rw-r----- 1 root root 166353 1993-03-28 00:31:10 TrapToss.guide -rw-r----- 1 root root    510 1993-03-28 00:32:20 TrapToss.guide.info

There must be something wrong with your lzh unpacker?

Bye, Wilfred.

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Ok, strange, I unpacked it in Linux, but i have no problem with other LHA files before, I will unpack in in the Amiga and see how it goes.

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