• fever! in the morning, fever all through the night

    From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Wed Mar 25 04:02:43 2020
    Hallo Nancy!

    I trust you are well, and not affected much by the coronavirus...?

    The entire world here has seriously impacted, especially Vancouver where there have been 13 deaths last I heard. Nobody that I know has got it thank goodness and where I am has been procticing social distancing as a matter of course for the last 20 years I have been living in this location. We're not exactly hermits as such but wee tend to keep to ourselves along with being neighbourly and friendly. So far so good.

    We are fine here, but there are lots of restrictions and closings
    to try to stem the spread of the virus....

    That sounds very familiar. I do wonder aloud whether it might be a bit of overkill but then again even without any viruses the hospital system has been under strain for decades so something like this is a potential nightmare if and (probably) when more cases start showing up in emergency rooms.

    $90...? They run about $60 or so here....

    Definetly your brand is in the $90 range. Glenlivet is around the $60-$70 range.

    I remember when one could get a good single malt for $30

    Same here but a long, long time ago in a land far, far away.

    Nostalgia, no doubt... ;)

    I concur. Them were the days ... as long as I only reflect on the good times that is. The reality is that $30 back then is probably worth more than $90 is today for day to day items. The *only* thing I can think of that is cheaper are computers and associated parts, and in most cases the more modern equipment is vastly better.

    Prices don't get rounded here...

    Here they are rounded down to the nearest nickle.

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    That fits fidonet to a tee.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Wed Apr 1 01:01:16 2020
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 25-Mar-2020 04:02 <=-

    I trust you are well, and not affected much by the coronavirus...?

    The entire world here has seriously impacted, especially Vancouver
    where there have been 13 deaths last I heard. Nobody that I know has
    got it thank goodness

    We've had some deaths in our county, but NYC has been hardest hit... my youngest brother lives and works in NYC, but last I talked to him he was
    still fine... I know of a couple people locally that got it but so far
    only mild cases...

    and where I am has been practicing social distancing as a matter
    of course for the last 20 years I have been living in this location.
    We're not exactly hermits as such but we tend to keep to ourselves
    along with being neighbourly and friendly. So far so good.

    I had to chuckle when I read that... from what you've said all along, I
    did get that impression of your neighborhood... :) Our neigborhood used
    to be more gregarious in the past but now tends to be more socially
    distanced as well... :)

    We are fine here, but there are lots of restrictions and closings
    to try to stem the spread of the virus....

    That sounds very familiar. I do wonder aloud whether it might be a
    bit of overkill but then again even without any viruses the hospital system has been under strain for decades so something like this is a potential nightmare if and (probably) when more cases start showing up
    in emergency rooms.

    Pretty much my take on it too... I'm hoping that perhaps the
    pencil-pushers that keep telling the hospitals that they had too many
    beds will have a wake-up call with this.... Every flu season a doctor
    friend of mine complains that they have to airlift severely ill patients
    to other hospitals because there are no beds left here.....

    $90...? They run about $60 or so here....

    Definetly your brand is in the $90 range. Glenlivet is around the
    $60-$70 range.

    Here Glenlivet's at the lower end of that and Macallan at the higher
    end, not that much difference between them, usually....

    I remember when one could get a good single malt for $30

    Them were the days ... as long as I only reflect on the
    good times that is. The reality is that $30 back then is probably
    worth more than $90 is today for day to day items.

    I suppose so, for at least some things....

    The *only* thing I can think of that is cheaper are computers and associated parts, and in most cases the more modern equipment is
    vastly better.

    The same obtains with other electronic stuff, by and large...

    Prices don't get rounded here...

    Here they are rounded down to the nearest nickle.

    Probably if there was rounding, they'd round up... except that that
    loses the psychological advantage of staying below that next dollar....
    so maybe it would be rounded down here, too...

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Wed Apr 1 16:10:29 2020
    Hallo Nancy!

    We've had some deaths in our county

    As far as I know, which isn't much, there haven't been any in this neck of the woods. At least one of the neighbours has heard otherwise but they have an inside source and I certainly am not going out on a limb over it. Another neighbour is in self imposed lockdown but doesn't believe he actually has the virus and is just being cautious given that he works with troubled youth. Also there are now restrictions as to visitors being allowed into the area as well as closing down schools, public parks, etc.

    I did get that impression of your neighborhood...

    :-) Yes it hasn't been too much of a lifestyle change here ... as long as you don't go anywhere.

    I'm hoping that perhaps the pencil-pushers that keep telling the
    hospitals that they had too many beds will have a wake-up call
    with this

    I am not sure that will solve this particular problem and perhaps setting up temporary hospitals in parks and the such is a better strategy. Also there has been talk of using cruise ships for temporary hospitals if needed. Things like this might be the way to go instead of building more infrastructure that nobody can afford given that these types of catastrophes are temporary. Also there is a critcal shortage of trained medical people to staff existing hospitals wo building bigger isn't going to make anything better methinks. Also, also most of the deaths I've heard about are in senior's care homes which are also short staffed.

    Probably if there was rounding, they'd round up... except that
    that loses the psychological advantage of staying below that next dollar.... so maybe it would be rounded down here, too...

    I would guess that they would round down especially given the latest economic crisis due to covid-19.

    Stay well.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Tue Apr 7 16:36:42 2020
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 01-Apr-2020 16:10 <=-

    We've had some deaths in our county

    As far as I know, which isn't much, there haven't been any in this
    neck of the woods. At least one of the neighbours has heard otherwise
    but they have an inside source and I certainly am not going out on a
    limb over it.

    We've also had numerous other cases that people survived from...

    Another neighbour is in self imposed lockdown but doesn't believe he actually has the virus and is just being cautious given that he works
    with troubled youth.

    We have a friend that is likewise in self imposed lockdown, but in her
    case she's just paranoid about getting the virus... alternating with
    thinking she's already infected and might be a carrier....

    Also there are now restrictions as to visitors being allowed into the
    area as well as closing down schools, public parks, etc.

    I don't think there are restrictions locally as to people being allowed
    into the area, but there are state-wide against coming or going, as
    there are in a number of other states.... Schools, colleges, restaurants
    and bars, concerts, plays, churches (any place where there would be any
    sort of gatherings) and non-essential business are all closed down....
    churches are livestreaming services, schools and colleges are doing
    distance learning via the computers, restaurants are allowed to do take
    away and delivery only... Not sure about our public parks, but any
    collections of people would be frowned upon... But grocery stores and pharmacies are deemed essential still, so we've been able to get food
    and meds... :)

    I did get that impression of your neighborhood...

    :-) Yes it hasn't been too much of a lifestyle change here ... as
    long as you don't go anywhere.

    Just as well our next cybertoast isn't for quite a while... you'd not be
    able to get out to get yours...

    I'm hoping that perhaps the pencil-pushers that keep telling the
    hospitals that they had too many beds will have a wake-up call
    with this

    I am not sure that will solve this particular problem and perhaps
    setting up temporary hospitals in parks and the such is a better
    strategy. Also there has been talk of using cruise ships for
    temporary hospitals if needed.

    Down in NYC, they've got a Navy medical ship and have opened up a
    convention center to be temporary hospitals... they've needed the extra
    space, and even now are at capacity... but at least it's workable

    Things like this might be the way to
    go instead of building more infrastructure that nobody can afford
    given that these types of catastrophes are temporary. Also there is a critical shortage of trained medical people to staff existing hospitals
    wo building bigger isn't going to make anything better methinks.

    Agreed on the scope of what we are facing right now, that we don't need
    that sort of capacity long-term.... But what had happened here was that
    needed beds and staffing had been cut to non-flu season levels, so that
    even during flu season there's been a severe shortage for our
    hospitals... I just think that they should be able to get back to that
    level of preparedness....

    Also, most of the deaths I've heard about are in senior's care homes
    which are also short staffed.

    Not so much anymore... that is, the deaths are happening within the
    general population as well now.... I do agree that senior care homes
    are short staffed, though....

    Probably if there was rounding, they'd round up... except that
    that loses the psychological advantage of staying below that next
    dollar.... so maybe it would be rounded down here, too...
    I would guess that they would round down especially given the latest economic crisis due to covid-19.

    Meanwhile, much is in short supply anyway.... and we aren't likely to be
    losing our pennies anytime soon.... ;)

    Stay well.

    And you, too, my friend.... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Wed Apr 8 17:36:02 2020
    Hallo Nancy!

    but in her case she's just paranoid about getting the virus

    I think that is a very common 'problem' even in this neck of the woods. Also I believe the mask situation is way out of hand except I don't see it doing any harm, other than it being symptomatic of paranoia or at least false precaution as it pertains to this particular virus. Wash your hands is still the best preventive messure.

    But grocery stores and pharmacies are deemed essential still, so
    we've been able to get food and meds... :)

    Same situation here although there is a shortage of supplies. I heard one woman in Nanaimo complain that she had to make five different stops to get everything she needed. Myself I found the limited quantities one can purchase at one time to be a hinderance to the 'just stay home' message.

    Just as well our next cybertoast isn't for quite a while...
    you'd not be able to get out to get yours...

    You would think so but apparently liquor stores are an essential service ... not that it really matters to me personally ... or at least for another 211 dagen. ;-)

    I just think that they should be able to get back to that level
    of preparedness

    For sure. It should have been taken care of over a century ago. It isn't like this wasn't a real possiblity of happening.

    much is in short supply

    Yes, especially common sense. Mind you that always is in short supply methinks.

    Stay well and we'll talk soon.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

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  • From Christian Jacob@2:240/1120.34 to Maurice Kinal on Thu Apr 9 21:50:14 2020
    Hallo Maurice!

    08 Apr 20 17:36, Maurice Kinal schrieb an Nancy Backus:

    Hallo Nancy!

    but in her case she's just paranoid about getting the virus

    I think that is a very common 'problem' even in this neck of the woods. Also I believe the mask situation is way out of hand except I don't see
    it
    doing any harm, other than it being symptomatic of paranoia or at least false precaution as it pertains to this particular virus. Wash your
    hands
    is still the best preventive messure.

    I find it weird how many experts are all alround that "know" why or why not masks do or don't work. I myself tend to believe that wearing a mask (whatever type) basically decreases the propability of infecting others if you're infected. However, viruses are so small that the best comparison I heard of yet goes like this: Wearing a mask for protection against viruses is like throwing a golf ball against a soccer goals' net.

    But grocery stores and pharmacies are deemed essential still, so
    we've been able to get food and meds... :)

    Same situation here although there is a shortage of supplies. I heard
    one
    woman in Nanaimo complain that she had to make five different stops to
    get
    everything she needed. Myself I found the limited quantities one can purchase at one time to be a hinderance to the 'just stay home' message.

    Drugstores in Germany started to sell through emergeny counters, but you're still easily able to get medical supplies. Grocery stores started to enforce using carts while limiting the amount of available carts for two reasons: 1. This way you satisfy the minimum distance of about 2m at the checkstand and 2. the security guards at the markets' entrances (yeah, right...) easily know how many people are in there at any time.

    I myself am shopping on two days a week: Wednesdays for a whole weeks' supplies and on saturday for fresh supplies on the open air mart. However, for three weeks in a row, I was neither able to purchase regular flour (what I COULD get is chestnut flour for whatever reason I didn't know that it even exists until now) nor fresh yeast. Yesterday I visited our drugstore accidently at the right time to get a oackage of toilet paper. First time in three weeks...

    Stay healthy,
    Christian

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Christian Jacob on Sun Apr 12 15:09:36 2020
    Hallo Christian!

    Wearing a mask for protection against viruses is like throwing a
    golf ball against a soccer goals' net.

    Especially the homemade ones which are showing up around town. I can see them being somewhat more useful in some of the major cities where air quality is low but even then the fine particles are getting through, so I am guessing that it is more of a placebo than anything effective as far as protecting ones lungs.

    I myself am shopping on two days a week:

    That is more of less my regular habit and the virus hasn't changed anything there. However I just have myself to look out for so it simplifies shopping trips greatly.

    what I COULD get is chestnut flour

    Interesting. What are your plans for this? Wild hazlenuts would be more doable in most parts of Canada and probably would make a good flour. Also I seem to recall seeing a British documentary about stone age peoples using hazlenuts for cooking so there might be something to it. You've piqued my curiousity.

    nor fresh yeast.

    I stumbled across an article online about 'growing' your own. I should have paid it more attention so I could pass on the link to it. I am sure a search of this topic would produce a hopefully credible link.

    Yesterday I visited our drugstore accidently at the right time
    to get a oackage of toilet paper. First time in three weeks...

    Me too except it has been more than three weeks since my previous purchase. I decided I had better grab a package while I was at the store as I had to help out a neighbour when she ran out when this whole thing started and toilet paper was suddenly hard to find. I now should be good for quite some time barring any additional neighbourhood emergencies. So far so good. :::knock on wood:::

    Stay well.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Wed Apr 15 19:47:18 2020
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 08-Apr-2020 17:36 <=-

    but in her case she's just paranoid about getting the virus

    I think that is a very common 'problem' even in this neck of the
    woods. Also I believe the mask situation is way out of hand except I don't see it doing any harm, other than it being symptomatic of
    paranoia or at least false precaution as it pertains to this
    particular virus. Wash your hands is still the best preventive
    measure.

    The mask might protect others from you... the hand washing protects you
    from others... and, if you are a health professional, protects others
    from you spreading germs that you might have acquired from those sick
    with something other than what the next patient might have, etc...

    I suppose the mask at least reminds people to keep their distance, if it doesn't make them overconfident....

    But grocery stores and pharmacies are deemed essential still, so
    we've been able to get food and meds... :)

    Same situation here although there is a shortage of supplies. I heard
    one woman in Nanaimo complain that she had to make five different
    stops to get everything she needed. Myself I found the limited
    quantities one can purchase at one time to be a hinderance to the
    'just stay home' message.

    I guess it depends on what someone is needing... the ones in shortest
    supply are nowhere to be found, other things might be in somewhat short
    supply, but just getting the minimum needed leaves some for others to
    also obtain... :)

    Just as well our next cybertoast isn't for quite a while...
    you'd not be able to get out to get yours...

    You would think so but apparently liquor stores are an essential
    service ... not that it really matters to me personally ... or at
    least for another 211 dagen. ;-)

    True... I'll most likely still have the same bottle I used for the last
    few toasts, as that's about the only time I have any of it... :)

    [sufficient hospital beds/staff]
    I just think that they should be able to get back to that level
    of preparedness

    For sure. It should have been taken care of over a century ago. It
    isn't like this wasn't a real possiblity of happening.

    From what I've seen, a century ago, that was much better understood than
    it is now... it's the pencil pushers in the last few decades that have
    been eroding that sort of preparedness, forgetting about the real
    possibilities of emergencies happening....

    much is in short supply

    Yes, especially common sense. Mind you that always is in short supply methinks.

    Indeed.

    Stay well and we'll talk soon.

    I trust you are also staying well... So far, we are doing ok still.. :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Thu Apr 16 15:38:27 2020
    Hallo Nancy!

    The mask might protect others from you... the hand washing
    protects you from others...

    I've heard that but am in serious doubt that any mask that I can manufacture mysef will protect anybody. For sure there are absolutely zero manufactured ones available for purchase. Same with rubber gloves which is probably a better purchace for these troubled times.

    I suppose the mask at least reminds people to keep their
    distance, if it doesn't make them overconfident....

    Sure. I'll wait until masks become mandatory and then piece something together for going shopping when I need to. At the best of times I have a 'hit and run' mentality of shopping and seldom do any socializing in the aisles. Nod and smile is more my style when aknowledging others in stores.

    the ones in shortest supply are nowhere to be found,

    My little sister tells me that rubber gloves are impossible to find. Those are probably the best protection from picking up the virus from handled objects.

    but just getting the minimum needed leaves some for others to
    also obtain... :)

    Understood. Also saves money given the inflated prices these days. I've heard gardening is on the increase this year.

    I'll most likely still have the same bottle I used for the last
    few toasts, as that's about the only time I have any of it... :)

    I'll have to purchase a new one but will likely wait until then.

    I trust you are also staying well...

    So far so good. I haven't heard of anyone on this part of the island getting the virus.

    So far, we are doing ok still..

    Excellent. Hopefully the powers that be have learned from this experience and make the proper investments for the future so that the next one is handled better.

    Stay well my friend. :-)

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Christian Jacob on Tue Apr 21 15:52:14 2020
    Quoting Christian Jacob to Maurice Kinal on 09-Apr-2020 21:50 <=-

    I think that is a very common 'problem' even in this neck of the woods.
    Also I believe the mask situation is way out of hand except I don't see
    it doing any harm, other than it being symptomatic of paranoia or at
    least false precaution as it pertains to this particular virus. Wash
    your hands is still the best preventive messure.
    I find it weird how many experts are all alround that "know" why or
    why not masks do or don't work. I myself tend to believe that wearing
    a mask (whatever type) basically decreases the propability of
    infecting others if you're infected. However, viruses are so small
    that the best comparison I heard of yet goes like this: Wearing a mask
    for protection against viruses is like throwing a golf ball against a soccer goals' net.

    Indeed. I saw somewhere that the best reason for wearing a mask was to
    remind one not to touch one's face.... It does protect a little from you passing along things if you are sick... I suppose it could also be a
    reminder to keep distance from others....

    But grocery stores and pharmacies are deemed essential still, so
    we've been able to get food and meds... :)
    Same situation here although there is a shortage of supplies. I heard
    one woman in Nanaimo complain that she had to make five different stops
    to get everything she needed. Myself I found the limited quantities
    one can purchase at one time to be a hinderance to the 'just stay
    home' message.
    Drugstores in Germany started to sell through emergeny counters, but you're still easily able to get medical supplies. Grocery stores
    started to enforce using carts while limiting the amount of available carts for two reasons: 1. This way you satisfy the minimum distance of about 2m at the checkstand and 2. the security guards at the markets' entrances (yeah, right...) easily know how many people are in there at
    any time.

    Interesting the varieties of ways that stores are coming up with to try
    to comply with the guidelines, one way or another... Our grocery store
    limited the access to one of the entrances, using the other as an exit..
    and I think they're limiting carts as well... They were saying one to a
    cart, but didn't say anything when Richard and I were still using just
    the one cart between us... There are markings on the floor for the 6 ft distancing and plastic shields at the registers...

    I myself am shopping on two days a week: Wednesdays for a whole weeks' supplies and on saturday for fresh supplies on the open air mart.

    We are still doing our weekly grocery shopping at our usual store...

    However, for three weeks in a row, I was neither able to purchase
    regular flour (what I COULD get is chestnut flour for whatever reason
    I didn't know that it even exists until now) nor fresh yeast.

    Those have been in short supply here as well... we are more likely to
    see almond flour than chestnut here, but the nut flours have been around
    for the use of those who can't tolerate gluten and are looking for alternatives...

    Yesterday I visited our drugstore accidently at the right time to get
    a oackage of toilet paper. First time in three weeks...

    Congratulations.. ;) We'd just stocked before the crisis hit, we
    generally do buy in bulk anyway... and then use it over the course of
    months to a year or more... ;)

    Stay healthy,

    You also... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Tue Apr 21 16:21:16 2020
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Christian Jacob on 12-Apr-2020 15:09 <=-

    what I COULD get is chestnut flour

    Interesting. What are your plans for this? Wild hazlenuts would be
    more doable in most parts of Canada and probably would make a good
    flour. Also I seem to recall seeing a British documentary about stone
    age peoples using hazlenuts for cooking so there might be something to
    it. You've piqued my curiousity.

    The nut and bean flours are common alternative flours for the gluten intolerant... almond flour is the one I've seen the most often of the
    nut flours...

    nor fresh yeast.

    I stumbled across an article online about 'growing' your own. I
    should have paid it more attention so I could pass on the link to it.
    I am sure a search of this topic would produce a hopefully credible
    link.

    Supposedly yeast is available through Amazon, I've been told....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Wed Apr 22 18:32:22 2020
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 16-Apr-2020 15:38 <=-

    The mask might protect others from you... the hand washing
    protects you from others...

    I've heard that but am in serious doubt that any mask that I can manufacture myself will protect anybody. For sure there are absolutely zero manufactured ones available for purchase. Same with rubber
    gloves which is probably a better purchace for these troubled times.

    At this point, manufactured masks and gloves are unavailable around
    here, having been donated to the hospitals or snapped up already....

    I suppose the mask at least reminds people to keep their
    distance, if it doesn't make them overconfident....

    Sure. I'll wait until masks become mandatory and then piece something together for going shopping when I need to. At the best of times I
    have a 'hit and run' mentality of shopping and seldom do any
    socializing in the aisles. Nod and smile is more my style when acknowledging others in stores.

    Masks have now become mandatory here... I gave in and asked my sister
    who's been making masks for family and friends for a couple each for
    us.... We might be more likely to socialize in the aisles, but for the
    last months, haven't been running into people like that anyway... We've
    been doing pretty good at keeping distance, as well....

    but just getting the minimum needed leaves some for others to
    also obtain... :)

    Understood. Also saves money given the inflated prices these days.
    I've heard gardening is on the increase this year.

    I haven't seen much inflation of grocery prices yet... and haven't paid
    that much attention to the prices on paper goods as we've not needed
    them....

    I'll most likely still have the same bottle I used for the last
    few toasts, as that's about the only time I have any of it... :)

    I'll have to purchase a new one but will likely wait until then.

    That would make sense... were you to buy one now, it might not last till then... ;)

    I trust you are also staying well...

    So far so good. I haven't heard of anyone on this part of the island getting the virus.

    That's very good... :)

    So far, we are doing ok still..

    Excellent. Hopefully the powers that be have learned from this
    experience and make the proper investments for the future so that the
    next one is handled better.

    One can but hope... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Fri Apr 24 03:46:03 2020
    Hallo Nancy!

    almond flour is the one I've seen the most often of the nut
    flours...

    I grew up on the flatlands where wheat is king as far as flour is concerned. If I were a baker I'd probably try other sources when they present themselves but I am a lousy baker (to say the least) so I'll have to let this particular topic slide. It is interesting though and I did check into where I could potentially find a pair of chestnut bushes. There are native species to be had but are not readily found in garden variety greenhouses ... not that I've seriously checked beyond a casual online search.

    Supposedly yeast is available through Amazon, I've been told....

    It doesn't surprise me.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Fri Apr 24 03:56:13 2020
    Hallo Nancy!

    At this point, manufactured masks and gloves are unavailable
    around here

    That is the same situation here.

    I haven't seen much inflation of grocery prices yet

    It has been significant enough to alter my menu ... and not for the better.

    were you to buy one now, it might not last till then... ;)

    That is definetly a risk, but then again I have no reason to buy any single malt at this point in time. I haven't been to any liquor outlet since the last purchase for the 2020-01-01 toast.

    Stay well, keep the faith and we'll talk soon.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Thu Apr 30 19:39:12 2020
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 24-Apr-2020 03:56 <=-

    At this point, manufactured masks and gloves are unavailable
    around here

    That is the same situation here.

    Thankfully, I've not needed gloves, and my sister has been making masks
    for family and friends so she was willing to give us a couple each from
    her stock, now that it's become mandatory to wear some sort of facial
    covering when going into public where social distancing might not be
    easily managed....

    I haven't seen much inflation of grocery prices yet

    It has been significant enough to alter my menu ... and not for the better.

    That's a shame... hopefully soon things will simmer down... The worst
    I've seen here is that things aren't being put on special sales, and the coupons all seem to have evaporated.... I still can sometimes get meat
    on "Special Today" where the expiry date is close and they want to move
    it, which helps... :)

    And paper products have returned to the shelves, not that I need any
    still.... ;)

    were you to buy one now, it might not last till then... ;)

    That is definetly a risk, but then again I have no reason to buy any single malt at this point in time. I haven't been to any liquor
    outlet since the last purchase for the 2020-01-01 toast.

    What did you use for the Leap Day toast, then....? Did you still have
    some left from 01-01....?

    Stay well, keep the faith and we'll talk soon.

    Likewise... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Fri May 1 18:52:12 2020
    Hallo Nancy!

    it's become mandatory to wear some sort of facial covering when
    going into public

    It is still optional here and there has been talk about relaxing restrictions soon.

    I still can sometimes get meat on "Special Today" where the
    expiry date is close and they want to move it, which helps... :)

    I've heard rumours of such things but have yet to encounter it. As far as meat is concerned it has close to doubled in price over the last month or so from what I've noticed.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Tue May 5 00:13:44 2020
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 01-May-2020 18:52 <=-

    it's become mandatory to wear some sort of facial covering when
    going into public

    It is still optional here and there has been talk about relaxing restrictions soon.

    It appears to be that some restrictions may be relaxed here, but to do
    that, masks and social distancing will be more enforced to prevent the
    curve from spiking up again... or at least that's the stated rationale...

    I still can sometimes get meat on "Special Today" where the
    expiry date is close and they want to move it, which helps... :)

    I've heard rumours of such things but have yet to encounter it. As
    far as meat is concerned it has close to doubled in price over the
    last month or so from what I've noticed.

    I haven't noticed that so much here.... but then, there are probably
    other factors in play....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Tue May 5 18:03:08 2020
    Hallo Nancy!

    It appears to be that some restrictions may be relaxed here

    Sounds pretty well much like what is happening across Canada today, although BC sounds like they plan to take a more cautious approach in the immediate future. At present the worst outbreak is in Quebec and they sound the most anxious to get things going again.

    social distancing will be more enforced to prevent the curve from
    spiking up again... or at least that's the stated rationale...

    From my understanding of the local scene, one confirmed case would be a spike here, but then again the powers that be may be holding out on that information. On that note, nobody I am aware of has picked up the bug.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Thu May 7 23:03:02 2020
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 05-May-2020 18:03 <=-

    It appears to be that some restrictions may be relaxed here

    Sounds pretty well much like what is happening across Canada today, although BC sounds like they plan to take a more cautious approach in
    the immediate future. At present the worst outbreak is in Quebec and
    they sound the most anxious to get things going again.

    It seems that things aren't opening all that quickly here... but I
    suppose that caution is probably a better idea... ;)

    social distancing will be more enforced to prevent the curve from
    spiking up again... or at least that's the stated rationale...

    From my understanding of the local scene, one confirmed case would be
    a spike here, but then again the powers that be may be holding out on
    that information. On that note, nobody I am aware of has picked up
    the bug.

    It's good you've been spared... :) The daughter of a friend of mine
    here did get it... and my niece may have also, but not confirmed by
    testing... but both have recovered well... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Fri May 8 07:29:26 2020
    Hallo Nancy!

    but I suppose that caution is probably a better idea... ;)

    It looks like we're about to find out.

    but both have recovered well...

    That is good. Here is to hoping that this is all over sooner than later.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Tue May 12 19:42:58 2020
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 08-May-2020 07:29 <=-

    but I suppose that caution is probably a better idea... ;)

    It looks like we're about to find out.

    Or at least get more data.... ;0

    but both have recovered well...

    That is good. Here is to hoping that this is all over sooner than
    later.

    That's for sure... :) Even for one that doesn't mind being home a lot,
    this enforced isolation is getting old....

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Wed May 13 14:21:53 2020
    Hallo Nancy!

    Even for one that doesn't mind being home a lot, this enforced
    isolation is getting old....

    As long as I stay close to home there isn't a noticable difference. It's only when going to town - especially Nanaimo or Duncan - where the restrictions are noticable. Also the lack of public washrooms is most disconcerning given my age. More than 2 hours in a lineup and there is going to be trouble. I believe having public washrooms in lockdown might be more hazardous to one's health than whatever reaon there is for closing them in the first place.

    :::grumble, grumble, grumble:::

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Wed May 20 16:23:28 2020
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 13-May-2020 14:21 <=-

    Even for one that doesn't mind being home a lot, this enforced
    isolation is getting old....

    As long as I stay close to home there isn't a noticable difference.
    It's only when going to town - especially Nanaimo or Duncan - where
    the restrictions are noticable.

    That's somewhat the case here... It's mostly that there's nowhere TO go,
    with restaurants closed except for takeaway (so no meeting a friend for
    lunch), libraries closed, etc...

    Grocery stores are open, and only slightly affected by the regulations
    and all, though... :)

    Also the lack of public washrooms is
    most disconcerning given my age. More than 2 hours in a lineup and
    there is going to be trouble. I believe having public washrooms in lockdown might be more hazardous to one's health than whatever reason there is for closing them in the first place.

    Ours are only found within other establishments... so if the place is
    closed, so are the public restrooms... if open, they are still
    available for use... And thankfully, any place I've been needing to go
    to hasn't had lines... :)

    :::grumble, grumble, grumble:::
    Het leven is goed,

    Yup, have to keep the right perspective... :)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@1:153/7001 to Nancy Backus on Thu May 21 18:51:37 2020
    Hey Nancy!

    Het leven is goed,

    Yup, have to keep the right perspective... :)

    I thought it was a statement of fact.

    Life is good,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Tue Jun 2 18:38:14 2020
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 21-May-2020 18:51 <=-

    Het leven is goed,
    Yup, have to keep the right perspective... :)

    I thought it was a statement of fact.

    Still somewhat of a perspective all the same... ;) And I was commenting
    on the juxtaposition of that usual statement with a less positive one
    that had ended the message itself... ;)

    ttyl neb

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  • From Maurice Kinal@2:280/464.113 to Nancy Backus on Wed Jun 3 21:53:05 2020
    Hallo Nancy!

    Still somewhat of a perspective all the same... ;)

    Without life there would be no perspective and therefore no good ... or bad for that matter.

    And I was commenting on the juxtaposition of that usual
    statement with a less positive one that had ended the message
    itself... ;)

    That doesn't matter since life is good even with negative statements. Life is good stands as fact as long as life exists. Life is bad makes absolutely no sense no matter how lousy any individuals lives might be.

    Het leven is goed,
    Maurice

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  • From Nancy Backus@1:229/452 to Maurice Kinal on Fri Jun 5 23:17:08 2020
    Quoting Maurice Kinal to Nancy Backus on 03-Jun-2020 21:53 <=-

    Still somewhat of a perspective all the same... ;)

    Without life there would be no perspective and therefore no good ...
    or bad for that matter.

    True.

    And I was commenting on the juxtaposition of that usual statement
    with a less positive one that had ended the message itself... ;)

    That doesn't matter since life is good even with negative statements. Life is good stands as fact as long as life exists. Life is bad makes absolutely no sense no matter how lousy any individuals lives might
    be.

    Some people might argue that one... but I guess I'll not... ;)

    ttyl neb

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