Hi,
I found my old notebook during cleanop of my office:
Celeron 1 core, 1GB RAM, 320GB HD. OS was/is Mandriva 2009.1 32Bit.
Since MGA9 is also available in 32Bit, so, why not re-install and use it
for easier tasks?
I took the advice from
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/
How_to_choose_the_right_Mageia_upgrade_method
to set up the repos via commandline, but I do not know how to interpret
"urpmi.addmedia --distrib --mirrorlist http://mirrors.mageia.org/api/ mageia.<n+1>.$ARCH.list"
What exactly has this line to look like, to get it to work with 32Bit
repos like core, tainted, etc.?
On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 12:33:35 -0500, Markus Robert Kessler <no_reply@dipl-ing-kessler.de> wrote:
Hi,
I found my old notebook during cleanop of my office:
Celeron 1 core, 1GB RAM, 320GB HD. OS was/is Mandriva 2009.1 32Bit.
Since MGA9 is also available in 32Bit, so, why not re-install and use
it for easier tasks?
I took the advice from
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/
How_to_choose_the_right_Mageia_upgrade_method
to set up the repos via commandline, but I do not know how to interpret
"urpmi.addmedia --distrib --mirrorlist http://mirrors.mageia.org/api/
mageia.<n+1>.$ARCH.list"
What exactly has this line to look like, to get it to work with 32Bit
repos like core, tainted, etc.?
Upgrading directly from Mandriva to Mageia 9 is not supported. Things in prior releases such as the move of /bin, /sbin, and /lib to symlinks
under /usr would very likely prevent such an upgrade from working.
Doing it properly would require upgrading from Mandriva to Mageia 1,
then 2, etc.,
up to the currently supported Mageia 9.
If you want to try, run "urpmi.removemedia -a" to remove the old repos
before adding the new ones.
I normally specify a mirror rather then using mirrorlist. For example
urpmi.addmedia --distrib http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/9/i586/
If you want to use mirrorlist ....
urpmi.addmedia --distrib --mirrorlist http://mirrors.mageia.org/api/mageia.9.i586.list
Either way, after that run "drakrpm-edit-media" to ensure nonfree and
tainted are enabled, if desired.
For releases 1 through 7, the only repos still available are under http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia-archive/distrib/
so you would have to specify the mirror. Mirrorlist will not work.
Much easier/faster to just do a fresh install after backing up anything
you want to keep somewhere it will not get deleted or overwritten during
the install.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
Well, now there occurred one more problem:
I tried to do the above remotely, but I see a weird behaviour when trying
to open a connection via ssh from a MGA9-64 box to Mandriva 2009.1:
$ ssh test@linuxnb1
Unable to negotiate with 192.168.2.23 port 22: no matching host key type found. Their offer: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss
On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 10:56:15 -0500, Markus Robert Kessler <no_reply@dipl-ing-kessler.de> wrote:
Well, now there occurred one more problem:
I tried to do the above remotely, but I see a weird behaviour when trying
to open a connection via ssh from a MGA9-64 box to Mandriva 2009.1:
$ ssh test@linuxnb1
Unable to negotiate with 192.168.2.23 port 22: no matching host key type
found. Their offer: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss
https://www.zdnet.com/article/openssh-to-deprecate-sha-1-logins-due-to-security-risk/
Probably the easiest way to get around it would be to create a local vb guest
running Mageia 1, and use that to ssh into the mandriva system. http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia-archive/distrib/1/i586/
Note that you can not use mirrorlist during the install. The mirror must be added using urpmi.addmedia specifying the mirror.
While using an ssh connection to do an upgrade remotely may work, it's very high risk.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 14:35:18 -0500 David W. Hodgins wrote:
On Fri, 26 Jan 2024 12:33:35 -0500, Markus Robert Kessler
<no_reply@dipl-ing-kessler.de> wrote:
Hi,
I found my old notebook during cleanop of my office:
Celeron 1 core, 1GB RAM, 320GB HD. OS was/is Mandriva 2009.1 32Bit.
Since MGA9 is also available in 32Bit, so, why not re-install and use
it for easier tasks?
I took the advice from
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/
How_to_choose_the_right_Mageia_upgrade_method
to set up the repos via commandline, but I do not know how to interpret
"urpmi.addmedia --distrib --mirrorlist http://mirrors.mageia.org/api/
mageia.<n+1>.$ARCH.list"
What exactly has this line to look like, to get it to work with 32Bit
repos like core, tainted, etc.?
Upgrading directly from Mandriva to Mageia 9 is not supported. Things in
prior releases such as the move of /bin, /sbin, and /lib to symlinks
under /usr would very likely prevent such an upgrade from working.
Doing it properly would require upgrading from Mandriva to Mageia 1,
then 2, etc.,
up to the currently supported Mageia 9.
If you want to try, run "urpmi.removemedia -a" to remove the old repos
before adding the new ones.
I normally specify a mirror rather then using mirrorlist. For example
urpmi.addmedia --distrib
http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia/distrib/9/i586/
If you want to use mirrorlist ....
urpmi.addmedia --distrib --mirrorlist
http://mirrors.mageia.org/api/mageia.9.i586.list
Either way, after that run "drakrpm-edit-media" to ensure nonfree and
tainted are enabled, if desired.
For releases 1 through 7, the only repos still available are under
http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia-archive/distrib/
so you would have to specify the mirror. Mirrorlist will not work.
Much easier/faster to just do a fresh install after backing up anything
you want to keep somewhere it will not get deleted or overwritten during
the install.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
Hi, thanks!
Well, now there occurred one more problem:
I tried to do the above remotely, but I see a weird behaviour when trying
to open a connection via ssh from a MGA9-64 box to Mandriva 2009.1:
$ ssh test@linuxnb1
Unable to negotiate with 192.168.2.23 port 22: no matching host key type found. Their offer: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss
$
Someone know what's going on here, how to solve?
Thanks in advance!
Best regards,
Markus
You could always try to download a current version of openssh and try to rebuild it on the mandriva machine. It would then have alternative
versions of the new possible ssh hash types.
I have no idea if this would work of if the newer one woul have
requirements for some newer library.
On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 10:56:15 -0500, Markus Robert Kessler <no_reply@dipl-ing-kessler.de> wrote:security-risk/
Well, now there occurred one more problem:
I tried to do the above remotely, but I see a weird behaviour when
trying to open a connection via ssh from a MGA9-64 box to Mandriva
2009.1:
$ ssh test@linuxnb1 Unable to negotiate with 192.168.2.23 port 22: no
matching host key type found. Their offer: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss
https://www.zdnet.com/article/openssh-to-deprecate-sha-1-logins-due-to-
Probably the easiest way to get around it would be to create a local vb1/i586/
guest running Mageia 1, and use that to ssh into the mandriva system. http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia-archive/distrib/
Note that you can not use mirrorlist during the install. The mirror must
be added using urpmi.addmedia specifying the mirror.
While using an ssh connection to do an upgrade remotely may work, it's
very high risk.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
https://www.zdnet.com/article/openssh-to-deprecate-sha-1-logins-due-to-security-risk/
On 1/27/24 10:27, David W. Hodgins wrote:
On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 10:56:15 -0500, Markus Robert Kessler
<no_reply@dipl-ing-kessler.de> wrote:
Well, now there occurred one more problem:
I tried to do the above remotely, but I see a weird behaviour when
trying to open a connection via ssh from a MGA9-64 box to Mandriva
2009.1:
$ ssh test@linuxnb1 Unable to negotiate with 192.168.2.23 port 22: no
matching host key type found. Their offer: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss
https://www.zdnet.com/article/openssh-to-deprecate-sha-1-logins-due-to- security-risk/
Probably the easiest way to get around it would be to create a local vb
guest running Mageia 1, and use that to ssh into the mandriva system.
http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia-archive/distrib/ 1/i586/
Note that you can not use mirrorlist during the install. The mirror
must be added using urpmi.addmedia specifying the mirror.
While using an ssh connection to do an upgrade remotely may work, it's
very high risk.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
Markus back up your Mandriva 2009.1 then reinstall the latest
Mageia or which ever other distribution takes your fancy. Salix with
Mate is out recently. I would recommend what I use but it does not
support 32 bit CPUs.
bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2024.01- Linux 6.5.13- Plasma 5.27.10
On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 11:28:50 -0800 Bobbie Sellers wrote:
On 1/27/24 10:27, David W. Hodgins wrote:security-risk/
On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 10:56:15 -0500, Markus Robert Kessler
<no_reply@dipl-ing-kessler.de> wrote:
Well, now there occurred one more problem:
I tried to do the above remotely, but I see a weird behaviour when
trying to open a connection via ssh from a MGA9-64 box to Mandriva
2009.1:
$ ssh test@linuxnb1 Unable to negotiate with 192.168.2.23 port 22: no
matching host key type found. Their offer: ssh-rsa,ssh-dss
https://www.zdnet.com/article/openssh-to-deprecate-sha-1-logins-due-to-
1/i586/
Probably the easiest way to get around it would be to create a local vb
guest running Mageia 1, and use that to ssh into the mandriva system.
http://distrib-coffee.ipsl.jussieu.fr/pub/linux/Mageia-archive/distrib/
Note that you can not use mirrorlist during the install. The mirror
must be added using urpmi.addmedia specifying the mirror.
While using an ssh connection to do an upgrade remotely may work, it's
very high risk.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
Markus back up your Mandriva 2009.1 then reinstall the latest
Mageia or which ever other distribution takes your fancy. Salix with
Mate is out recently. I would recommend what I use but it does not
support 32 bit CPUs.
bliss- Dell Precision 7730- PCLOS 2024.01- Linux 6.5.13- Plasma 5.27.10
Hi Bobbie, hi everyone,
in the meantime I tried to insall MGA9-32 directly, reformatting the disk
and booting from USB stick.
- I got Mageia-9-i586.iso
- I took a 32GB USB stick and created one fullsize Ext3 partition
- I started unetbootin (unetbootin-702-3.mga9) on a MGA9-64 box
- in unetbootin I loaded above ISO and clicked on start
- unetbootin claimed to do all necessary things automatically
After unetbootin reported to have finished, I unmounted the stick and
plugged it into the target machine.
The stick was shown in the list of boot devices and could be selected.
After a while, the BIOS terminated with "OS not found".
This is the same behaviour I saw, when testing PCLinux and afterwards
Ubuntu. Done on different target machines.
Has someone already successfully used unetbootin out of MGA9?
Thanks,
best regards,
Markus
On Sat, 27 Jan 2024 22:59:07 -0000 (UTC) William Unruh wrote:
You could always try to download a current version of openssh and try to
rebuild it on the mandriva machine. It would then have alternative
versions of the new possible ssh hash types.
I have no idea if this would work of if the newer one woul have
requirements for some newer library.
The funny thing is, that I can connect from MGA9 to a MGA6 box via ssh,
and use this as a relay station to connect to such an acient one like Mandriva 9. Ssh in MGA6 seems to be somehow both, up- and downward compatible.
BR,
Markus
in the meantime I tried to insall MGA9-32 directly, reformatting the disk
and booting from USB stick.
- I got Mageia-9-i586.iso
- I took a 32GB USB stick and created one fullsize Ext3 partition
- I started unetbootin (unetbootin-702-3.mga9) on a MGA9-64 box
- in unetbootin I loaded above ISO and clicked on start
- unetbootin claimed to do all necessary things automatically
On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 10:59:08 -0500, Markus Robert Kessler <no_reply@dipl-ing-kessler.de> wrote:Installation_Media#Put_the_ISO_on_a_media_of_your_choice
in the meantime I tried to insall MGA9-32 directly, reformatting the
disk and booting from USB stick.
- I got Mageia-9-i586.iso - I took a 32GB USB stick and created one
fullsize Ext3 partition - I started unetbootin (unetbootin-702-3.mga9)
on a MGA9-64 box - in unetbootin I loaded above ISO and clicked on
start - unetbootin claimed to do all necessary things automatically
From
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/
"Warning!
Unetbootin should not be used to copy the ISO image to a USB drive (see below)."
See that web page for instructions on how to put the iso on to a usb
stick using dd or a similar block level copy tool.
Be careful to copy to the iso to the device for the usb stick, not to a partition on the usb stick. Any existing partitions on the usb stick
will be overwritten.
If you already have Mageia on another install, the recommended
application to use is isodumper from the Mageia repositories.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
Unetbootin should not be used to copy the ISO image to a USB drive
On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 15:19:29 -0500 David W. Hodgins wrote:
Unetbootin should not be used to copy the ISO image to a USB drive
during install unetbootin shows the files that are unpacked from the ISO
and written to the stick. After unetbootin install, I see the files on the stick. It's not the ISO itself.
But, booting from that stick still does not work anyway.
Also, as Bobby recommended, I reformatted the stick as 'mkdosfs -F 32',
but unfortunately, this does not change the game.
Anything I could test next?
On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 15:19:29 -0500 David W. Hodgins wrote:
On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 10:59:08 -0500, Markus Robert KesslerInstallation_Media#Put_the_ISO_on_a_media_of_your_choice
<no_reply@dipl-ing-kessler.de> wrote:
in the meantime I tried to insall MGA9-32 directly, reformatting the
disk and booting from USB stick.
- I got Mageia-9-i586.iso - I took a 32GB USB stick and created one
fullsize Ext3 partition - I started unetbootin (unetbootin-702-3.mga9)
on a MGA9-64 box - in unetbootin I loaded above ISO and clicked on
start - unetbootin claimed to do all necessary things automatically
From
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/
"Warning!
Unetbootin should not be used to copy the ISO image to a USB drive (see
below)."
See that web page for instructions on how to put the iso on to a usb
stick using dd or a similar block level copy tool.
Be careful to copy to the iso to the device for the usb stick, not to a
partition on the usb stick. Any existing partitions on the usb stick
will be overwritten.
If you already have Mageia on another install, the recommended
application to use is isodumper from the Mageia repositories.
Regards, Dave Hodgins
Hi,
Unetbootin should not be used to copy the ISO image to a USB drive
during install unetbootin shows the files that are unpacked from the ISO
and written to the stick. After unetbootin install, I see the files on the stick. It's not the ISO itself.
But, booting from that stick still does not work anyway.
Also, as Bobby recommended, I reformatted the stick as 'mkdosfs -F 32',
but unfortunately, this does not change the game.
Anything I could test next?
Thanks,
best regards,
Markus
On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 13:43:56 -0500, Markus Robert Kessler <no_reply@dipl-ing-kessler.de> wrote:_Alternative_tools
On Sun, 28 Jan 2024 15:19:29 -0500 David W. Hodgins wrote:
Unetbootin should not be used to copy the ISO image to a USB drive
during install unetbootin shows the files that are unpacked from the
ISO and written to the stick. After unetbootin install, I see the files
on the stick. It's not the ISO itself.
But, booting from that stick still does not work anyway.
Also, as Bobby recommended, I reformatted the stick as 'mkdosfs -F 32',
but unfortunately, this does not change the game.
Anything I could test next?
It doesn't matter what partitions are on the usb stick or how they are formatted,
as they will be overwritten. Do make sure there are no file systems on
the usb stick that are mounted, or the usb stick will likely be
corrupted after it's copied to the usb stick.
Do not copy an iso image to a file system on the usb stick. It must be
copied to the the usb stick using a tool that does full device level raw writing, not something that copies individual files to a file system on
the usb stick.
The master boot record of the usb stick, including it's partition table
will be overwritten!
Tools like uunetbootin are meant to take an iso image designed to be
bootable
from a cd or dvd disc, and alter it using a tool called isohybrid to
make
it also bootable from a usb stick. The Mageia iso images have already
had the changes isohybrid makes applied to them. Running isohybrid on an
iso image that has already been modified makes it unbootable.
You need to use a tool like isodumper, or the dd command to do a raw
copy the iso image to the usb stick.
It must be written to a device such as /dev/sdz (for example), not to an existing partition on the device such as /dev/sdz1.
See
https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Dump_Mageia_ISO_on_a_USB_flash_drive_-
Regards, Dave Hodgins
Yes, indeed, nothing more than a trivial raw copy did the trick:
# cat /install/iso/Mageia-9-i586.iso > /dev/sdb
Install is running now. Thanks again!
On Mon, 29 Jan 2024 16:22:23 -0500, Markus Robert Kessler <no_reply@dipl-ing-kessler.de> wrote:
Yes, indeed, nothing more than a trivial raw copy did the trick:
# cat /install/iso/Mageia-9-i586.iso > /dev/sdb
Install is running now. Thanks again!
I'm very surprised that worked as cat is used to work with text files,
not binary files, and can be used to add line numbers, supress duplicate blank lines, etc. I haven't tested using cat, but it may well have
corrupted the copy as it wrote it.
If you run into problems using the usb stick do it again using the dd
command which works with blocks instead of with lines.
dd if=/install/iso/Mageia-9-i586.iso,of=/dev/sdb,bs=4M
Regards, Dave Hodgins
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