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    From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to All on Sun Jan 7 17:12:21 2024
    Hello All!

    I use crontab that is preset on first line to :
    MAILTO=vince

    This applies to all user accounts including root.

    I can read all these messages using program mail but for mga v8 I had it
    set to do the same using Thunderbird as a separate account as localhost.

    When I requested new messages and yes I have it set to get them every 30 minutes, it also picked up the local ones.

    After the upgrade to v9 this does not work at all, only the two email
    accounts that I have set up.

    Can anyone provide the settings for it or for a newly created account so
    that this now works as I am forgetting to run a terminal program and run
    mail and yes, I call it age :(

    Current settings for vince@localhost are

    Account name : vince@localhost

    Server Settings
    Enable updates for all feeds

    Message Storage
    Empty Deleted folder on Exit

    Local Directory
    /var/spool/mail

    But when leaving account settings it reports an error message

    The Local Directory path "/var/spool/mail" is invalid. Please pick a
    different directory.

    Needles to say it is not possible the change this - or I can't find out how
    to

    doing a ls -la to it is :
    ls -la /var/spool/mail/
    total 24
    drwxrwxr-x 2 root mail 4096 Jan 7 12:40 ./
    drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 Dec 24 15:59 ../
    -rw------- 1 vince vince 0 Sep 14 2022 Archives
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 vince vince 2227 Jan 4 21:18 Archives.msf
    -rw-r--r-- 1 vince vince 25 Feb 26 2022 msgFilterRules.dat
    -rw------- 1 vince vince 0 Dec 19 12:27 Trash
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 vince vince 2928 Jan 4 21:18 Trash.msf
    -rw------- 1 vince vince 0 Jan 7 16:55 vince
    -rw-rw-r-- 1 vince vince 3040 Dec 26 14:40 vince.msf

    I am reasonably sure this was the setting for mga V8 but Thunderbird has
    been updated during the v9 install.

    For the other account path I can see set up is : .thunderbird/aylogcmo.default/Mail/localhost/

    But I cannot set this using Browse as it does not show any folders starting with . i.e., all the hidden one's but Dolphin is set to show them and does show this folder as :

    .thunderbird/aylogcmo.default/Mail/localhost/
    total 28
    drwxr-xr-x 2 vince vince 4096 Feb 21 2022 ./
    drwxr-xr-x 7 vince vince 4096 May 12 2023 ../
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 vince vince 0 Jun 10 2017 Drafts*
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 vince vince 3010 Feb 22 2022 Drafts.msf*
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 vince vince 198 Sep 16 2019 filterlog.html*
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 vince vince 0 Feb 15 2022 Inbox*
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 vince vince 3144 Feb 26 2022 Inbox.msf*
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 vince vince 25 Nov 24 2021 msgFilterRules.dat*
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 vince vince 0 Feb 15 2022 Trash*
    -rwxr-xr-x 1 vince vince 3865 Feb 22 2022 Trash.msf


    Any ideas ?

    Vincent


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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/0 to All on Sun Jan 7 23:15:32 2024
    On Sun, 07 Jan 2024 12:12:21 -0500, Vincent Coen <VBCoen@gmail.com> wrote:
    Hello All!

    I use crontab that is preset on first line to :
    MAILTO=vince

    This applies to all user accounts including root.

    I can read all these messages using program mail but for mga v8 I had it
    set to do the same using Thunderbird as a separate account as localhost.

    When I requested new messages and yes I have it set to get them every 30 minutes, it also picked up the local ones.

    After the upgrade to v9 this does not work at all, only the two email accounts that I have set up.

    Can anyone provide the settings for it or for a newly created account so
    that this now works as I am forgetting to run a terminal program and run
    mail and yes, I call it age :(

    As far as I know thunderbird does not support getting mail directory from /var/spool.

    I use dovecot, so that I can retrieve email such as from cron as either a
    pop3 acccount or as an imap account.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/0 to All on Mon Jan 8 00:48:22 2024
    On 8/1/24 04:12, Vincent Coen wrote:


    Any ideas ?

    Vincent




    Nope. Not a squeak .

    I am not looking forward to the battle with Thunderbird when I move up
    to MGA9 Bad memories from MGA8 still persist.

    I went round and round and round the settings, finally discovered to be
    a bad address (typo)
    Thunderbird setup seems initially simple but it's far from intuitive and becomes infuriating I was almost homicidal


    --
    Running KDE on x86_64 5.15.126-desktop-1.mga8
    Mageia release 8


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  • From faeychild@2:250/0 to All on Mon Jan 8 02:35:41 2024
    On 8/1/24 11:48, faeychild wrote:


    I've dome it to myself again.
    I messed with the settings to remove a double entry from the last
    debacle and disrupted everything
    So I am a bit less terrified of it now, getting the hang. We shall see
    when I install MGA9

    And then there is the printer setup :-(

    I am putting this off I seriously need an uninterrupted afternoon


    --
    Running KDE on x86_64 5.15.126-desktop-1.mga8
    Mageia release 8


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  • From Vincent Coen@2:250/1 to faeychild on Mon Jan 8 16:07:04 2024
    Hello faeychild!

    Monday January 08 2024 02:35, faeychild wrote to All:

    On 8/1/24 11:48, faeychild wrote:


    I've dome it to myself again.
    I messed with the settings to remove a double entry from the last
    debacle and disrupted everything
    So I am a bit less terrified of it now, getting the hang. We shall
    see when I install MGA9

    And then there is the printer setup :-(

    Printer setup : Use Cups and it is a doodle - at least for HP, Epson,
    other brands I do not know about, but it does support a long list.

    I am putting this off I seriously need an uninterrupted afternoon

    Well a good 10 minutes anyway.




    Vincent


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  • From Ar@2:250/0 to All on Tue Jan 9 19:27:53 2024
    On 08/01/2024 00:48, faeychild wrote:

    I am not looking forward to the battle with Thunderbird when I move up
    to MGA9  Bad memories from MGA8 still persist.

    Over the recent Christmas break I did a clean install of Mageia 9, the Thunderbird profile, emails, and files in emails are on a separate drive
    (not /home but symlinked)..

    I got a "heart attack" when I started Thunderbird and all the mail in
    the unified mailbox vanished along with the unified mailbox itself -
    that's 10's of thousands of emails. I was afraid to close Thunderbird.

    Two days later, I found out that Thunderbird had moved emails that
    should have gone to their mailboxes I set up years ago, from the unified mailbox to their folders. This should have been stated at upgrade time.

    It was not obvious that that is what happened on upgrade, which is why I thought the upgrade deleted thousands of emails.

    Your mileage may vary.

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  • From faeychild@2:250/0 to All on Tue Jan 9 19:55:42 2024
    On 10/1/24 06:27, Ar wrote:

    Your mileage may vary.

    I once thought that expression was amusing: now it seriously conjures an element of desperate uncertainly.
    Hence my reticence about tackling the upgrade.

    It will be done though, and this time on a different partition so I can
    cross reference the new with the original


    Regards

    --
    Running KDE on x86_64 5.15.126-desktop-1.mga8
    Mageia release 8


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