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    From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Wed Mar 29 21:30:00 2023
    The menu items in the new Libreoffice are truely horrible. Mostrous
    icons and illegibile writing. It takes up a third of the screen
    (2000x100 pixels). How do I get back the old menus-- single line of
    words. Using Libreoffice surely the assumption should be that the user
    can read, and does not want to look at a comic book while using it!
    So, can I get back the traditional menus?

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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Thu Mar 30 02:17:55 2023
    On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 20:30:00 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:
    The menu items in the new Libreoffice are truely horrible. Mostrous
    icons and illegibile writing. It takes up a third of the screen
    (2000x100 pixels). How do I get back the old menus-- single line of
    words. Using Libreoffice surely the assumption should be that the user
    can read, and does not want to look at a comic book while using it!
    So, can I get back the traditional menus?

    I suggest you should create a signature file with basic information about
    your install/setup, for example:
    echo "-- " > ~/.signature
    cat /etc/release >> ~/.signature
    echo "Kernel: $(uname -r)" >> ~/.signature
    echo "Desktop: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP" >> ~/.signature

    If you add the above to your .bash_profile or .bashrc file the
    ~/.signature file will always contain current information.

    then add
    set signature ".signature"
    to your slrn rc file.

    Then open slrn and post a test message to any test group to verify
    your basic system information is shown.

    That way subject matter experts may be able to provide better answers to
    their replies.

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Thu Mar 30 05:40:24 2023
    On 2023-03-30, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 20:30:00 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:
    The menu items in the new Libreoffice are truely horrible. Mostrous
    icons and illegibile writing. It takes up a third of the screen
    (2000x100 pixels). How do I get back the old menus-- single line of
    words. Using Libreoffice surely the assumption should be that the user
    can read, and does not want to look at a comic book while using it!
    So, can I get back the traditional menus?

    Probably a good idea:

    Mageia 8 updated, Libreoffice libreoffice-base-7.4.3.2-1.mga8
    Plasma desktop


    Since 95 % of my email goes to people who have no intrest at all in my
    computer equipment, having a .signature containing that would be not
    very useful or polite. But including some relevant into into my post
    would be both.

    I suggest you should create a signature file with basic information about your install/setup, for example:
    echo "-- " > ~/.signature
    cat /etc/release >> ~/.signature
    echo "Kernel: $(uname -r)" >> ~/.signature
    echo "Desktop: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP" >> ~/.signature

    If you add the above to your .bash_profile or .bashrc file the
    ~/.signature file will always contain current information.

    then add
    set signature ".signature"
    to your slrn rc file.

    Then open slrn and post a test message to any test group to verify
    your basic system information is shown.

    That way subject matter experts may be able to provide better answers to their replies.

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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Thu Mar 30 06:28:36 2023
    On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 04:40:24 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:
    On 2023-03-30, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 20:30:00 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:
    The menu items in the new Libreoffice are truely horrible. Mostrous
    icons and illegibile writing. It takes up a third of the screen
    (2000x100 pixels). How do I get back the old menus-- single line of
    words. Using Libreoffice surely the assumption should be that the user
    can read, and does not want to look at a comic book while using it!
    So, can I get back the traditional menus?

    Probably a good idea:

    Mageia 8 updated, Libreoffice libreoffice-base-7.4.3.2-1.mga8
    Plasma desktop


    Since 95 % of my email goes to people who have no intrest at all in my computer equipment, having a .signature containing that would be not
    very useful or polite.

    Sounds like a poor email client if if can not be configured to not
    send/use a signature file.

    Other option is to put sig fine in .slrn directory and tell slrn about it.

    But including some relevant into into my post
    would be both.

    Now that we have some basic info, I can say that I do not have the problem in maga8 or mga9. Desktop is xfce.

    I suggest creating a test account, say junk, logging into junk and
    verify if problem still exists. IF not, it is a user account problem.
    If problem exists, it it a system wide problem.


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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Thu Mar 30 16:26:05 2023
    On 2023-03-30, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 04:40:24 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:
    On 2023-03-30, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 20:30:00 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:
    The menu items in the new Libreoffice are truely horrible. Mostrous
    icons and illegibile writing. It takes up a third of the screen
    (2000x100 pixels). How do I get back the old menus-- single line of
    words. Using Libreoffice surely the assumption should be that the user >>>> can read, and does not want to look at a comic book while using it!
    So, can I get back the traditional menus?

    Probably a good idea:

    Mageia 8 updated, Libreoffice libreoffice-base-7.4.3.2-1.mga8
    Plasma desktop


    Since 95 % of my email goes to people who have no intrest at all in my
    computer equipment, having a .signature containing that would be not
    very useful or polite.

    Sounds like a poor email client if if can not be configured to not
    send/use a signature file.

    Other option is to put sig fine in .slrn directory and tell slrn about it.

    But including some relevant into into my post
    would be both.

    Now that we have some basic info, I can say that I do not have the problem in maga8 or mga9. Desktop is xfce.

    I suggest creating a test account, say junk, logging into junk and
    verify if problem still exists. IF not, it is a user account problem.
    If problem exists, it it a system wide problem.


    I reinstalled libreoffice -- erasing the .config/libreoffice directory
    since I was having severe problems on that machine. Before when it had
    worked ( about 8 months ago since I was out of town and this is a
    desktop and would not have used libreoffice on it) I had no trouble.
    I found yesterday some item in one of the Options items in one of the
    menu items a not on icons, with one of the options being large, small or
    none. After choosing none, the menus looked much better, but
    occasionally I suddenly run across a menu that has horrible icons. It
    seems libreoffice has many different "Options" submenu items. I have no
    idea why anyone would make "large icons" the default (or have icons at
    all). I suspect that if you get rid of the .config/libreoffice directory
    ( or rename it so you can recover it) , so
    on next run libreoffice has to repopulate it with the default, you will
    see the problem.


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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Thu Mar 30 21:21:23 2023
    On Thu, 30 Mar 2023 15:26:05 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:

    I reinstalled libreoffice

    I never do that unless I am testing an install script.

    I suggest having a pull_updates and install_updates script which uses "script" or "tee"
    to have a log of the package installed and a test after urpmi to check for success.
    If not dump the log to the terminal. I use xmessage for that.

    -- erasing the .config/libreoffice directory
    since I was having severe problems on that machine.

    Thanks for the feedback. I never do upgrades, just clean installs so my .config directories are pretty standard except for the Desktop Environment. I have configuration scripts to set the xfce DM as desired using xdotool.

    I gave up on plasma as my Desktop Environment (DE). Was seeing too many problems on it and users having problems. I like xfce since I can configure
    it with scripts and make it have the look, feel, and speed of the old kde DE.

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  • From Gilberto F da Silva@2:250/1 to All on Sat Apr 1 01:23:57 2023
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    Bit Twister escreveu:
    On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 20:30:00 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:
    The menu items in the new Libreoffice are truely horrible.
    Mostrous icons and illegibile writing. It takes up a third of the
    screen (2000x100 pixels). How do I get back the old menus--
    single line of words. Using Libreoffice surely the assumption
    should be that the user can read, and does not want to look at a
    comic book while using it! So, can I get back the traditional
    menus?

    I suggest you should create a signature file with basic information
    about your install/setup, for example: echo "-- " > ~/.signature
    cat /etc/release >> ~/.signature echo "Kernel: $(uname -r)" >>
    ~/.signature echo "Desktop: $XDG_CURRENT_DESKTOP" >> ~/.signature

    If you add the above to your .bash_profile or .bashrc file the
    ~/.signature file will always contain current information.

    then add set signature ".signature" to your slrn rc file.

    Then open slrn and post a test message to any test group to verify
    your basic system information is shown.

    That way subject matter experts may be able to provide better
    answers to their replies.


    Cool.

    - --
    Abraços
    Gilberto F da Silva
    Mageia release 9 (Cauldron) for x86_64
    Kernel: 6.2.8-desktop-1.mga9
    Desktop: KDE
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  • From Gilberto F da Silva@2:250/1 to All on Sat Apr 1 01:29:01 2023
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    William Unruh escreveu:
    On 2023-03-30, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    On Wed, 29 Mar 2023 20:30:00 -0000 (UTC), William Unruh wrote:
    The menu items in the new Libreoffice are truely horrible.
    Mostrous icons and illegibile writing. It takes up a third of
    the screen (2000x100 pixels). How do I get back the old menus--
    single line of words. Using Libreoffice surely the assumption
    should be that the user can read, and does not want to look at
    a comic book while using it! So, can I get back the traditional
    menus?

    Probably a good idea:

    Mageia 8 updated, Libreoffice libreoffice-base-7.4.3.2-1.mga8
    Plasma desktop


    Since 95 % of my email goes to people who have no intrest at all in
    my computer equipment, having a .signature containing that would be
    not very useful or polite. But including some relevant into into my
    post would be both.

    I use Seamonkey as a news reader. I configured only for the eternal-septermber groups.


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    Abraços
    Gilberto F da Silva
    Mageia release 9 (Cauldron) for x86_64
    Kernel: 6.2.8-desktop-1.mga9
    Desktop: KDE
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  • From Gilberto F da Silva@2:250/1 to All on Sat Apr 1 02:03:19 2023
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    William Unruh escreveu:
    The menu items in the new Libreoffice are truely horrible.
    Mostrous icons and illegibile writing. It takes up a third of the
    screen (2000x100 pixels). How do I get back the old menus-- single
    line of words. Using Libreoffice surely the assumption should be
    that the user can read, and does not want to look at a comic book
    while using it! So, can I get back the traditional menus?


    I liked Staroffice but when he moved to OpenOffice/LibreOffice, it
    got worse. You can try another program like https://www.freeoffice.com/e
    n/

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    Gilberto F da Silva
    Mageia release 9 (Cauldron) for x86_64
    Kernel: 6.2.8-desktop-1.mga9
    Desktop: KDE
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