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  • HD light polling

    From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sat May 28 07:15:15 2022


    Since replacing my failing data drive yesterday I now get a HD light
    every half second

    Something seems to be polling it.

    The accompanying tick noise is coming from the new spinning rust

    I have checked the plugs/sockets and don't seem to have left anything disconnected, not even the optical drive

    The polling starts after boot on the login page

    The polling runs for "junk" account also

    the polling stops at shutdown when the kernel messages start

    Where to look?

    regards
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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Sat May 28 07:30:39 2022
    Since we have absolutely no idea what you have on that drive, it is very
    hard to say. AFAIK that light will come on on any access of the drive.

    On 2022-05-28, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:


    Since replacing my failing data drive yesterday I now get a HD light
    every half second

    Something seems to be polling it.

    The accompanying tick noise is coming from the new spinning rust

    I have checked the plugs/sockets and don't seem to have left anything disconnected, not even the optical drive

    The polling starts after boot on the login page

    The polling runs for "junk" account also

    the polling stops at shutdown when the kernel messages start

    Where to look?

    regards

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sat May 28 07:56:51 2022
    On 28/5/22 16:30, William Unruh wrote:
    Since we have absolutely no idea what you have on that drive, it is very
    hard to say. AFAIK that light will come on on any access of the drive.


    The new drive contains all the data from the old drive, mostly video files
    With no access to the data drive and on the login page the drive is
    still being polled.
    I have also re run lm sensors. no change


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  • From Aragorn@2:250/1 to All on Sat May 28 09:16:12 2022
    On 28.05.2022 at 16:56, faeychild scribbled:

    On 28/5/22 16:30, William Unruh wrote:
    Since we have absolutely no idea what you have on that drive, it is
    very hard to say. AFAIK that light will come on on any access of
    the drive.


    The new drive contains all the data from the old drive, mostly video
    files With no access to the data drive and on the login page the
    drive is still being polled.

    I take it that whatever volume is on the drive, it's mounted at boot
    from within /etc/fstab?

    I have also re run lm sensors. no change

    Assuming that you're running Plasma, could it be Baloo that's indexing
    the drive? If you don't want that, open up System Settings and navigate
    to "Workspace", and then "Search".

    You can add a directory path there that must NOT be indexed, or you can
    disable indexing altogether, or you can have it index only the filenames
    but not the content, and so on.

    On my own system here, I've excluded certain directories (and their
    subdirs) from indexing, and I'm only indexing filenames, not file
    content.


    --
    With respect,
    = Aragorn =


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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sat May 28 14:38:01 2022
    On Sat, 28 May 2022 02:56:51 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 28/5/22 16:30, William Unruh wrote:
    Since we have absolutely no idea what you have on that drive, it is very
    hard to say. AFAIK that light will come on on any access of the drive.

    The new drive contains all the data from the old drive, mostly video files With no access to the data drive and on the login page the drive is
    still being polled.
    I have also re run lm sensors. no change

    The light indicates activity for the controller, not necessarily the hard drive.
    Do you have an optical drive on that controller? Automount software will check for
    a cd/dvd to automount every 5 seconds.

    There are various things that can check, such as udev and software for each
    of the main desktop environments.

    In kde, run systemsettings5. In the Hardware/Removable storage section, under Removable Devices, make sure "Enable automounting of removable media" is not selected.

    There are similar settings for Gnome and Xfce, though I don't have the exact setting locations handy right now.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sat May 28 15:01:17 2022
    On Sat, 28 May 2022 02:56:51 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 28/5/22 16:30, William Unruh wrote:
    Since we have absolutely no idea what you have on that drive, it is very
    hard to say. AFAIK that light will come on on any access of the drive.

    The new drive contains all the data from the old drive, mostly video files With no access to the data drive and on the login page the drive is
    still being polled.
    I have also re run lm sensors. no change

    I just checked. We've had this discussion before ... https://groups.google.com/g/alt.os.linux.mandriva/c/dc5JE28sK9M/m/nXg3IsbWjYsJ?pli=1

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Sat May 28 16:36:10 2022
    On 2022-05-28, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 28/5/22 16:30, William Unruh wrote:
    Since we have absolutely no idea what you have on that drive, it is very
    hard to say. AFAIK that light will come on on any access of the drive.


    The new drive contains all the data from the old drive, mostly video files With no access to the data drive and on the login page the drive is
    still being polled.

    What does "no access to the data drive" mean? Did you unplug the drive.
    I have also re run lm sensors. no change



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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sun May 29 01:32:38 2022
    On 28/5/22 16:56, faeychild wrote:


    I will relate the sad tale

    I had a slowing machine. The responsiveness , file loading, desktop
    actions sometimes lagged.

    The primary drive with OS installed is a SDD. Second drive is spinning
    rust, Data only mostly video files

    Fsck passed the HD partition and smartctl found some sectors disabled.

    Other than that the computer was fine, nothing strange going on.


    I replaced the HD and copied all data across from the old drive.

    The system was back to being zippy. All good



    Then I noticed the new "functions. "

    The HD light was flashing regularly. I could hear the new HD tick. I
    thought, It's lust logging. But It would also tick after boot on the
    login screen. The same for "junk" user. I was skeptical to find the
    data HD accessed at the login screen, but something is
    This ran on yesterday until late last night when I noticed the flashing
    had ceased. To be replaced this morning by a regular soft thump from
    the drive with no HD light activation


    The second new function is
    USB flash memory is no longer mounted or showing up in Dolphin

    When the flash memory is inserted it is listed in dmesg and listed in
    devices in gparted But it is no longer auto-mounted.

    Is this co-incident with the new HD or just bad timing (rhet)

    Should I take a week off and drink :-)

    And to David. Yep I do remember the old problem with HAL polling the
    optical drive

    regards

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sun May 29 02:17:21 2022
    On 29/5/22 10:32, faeychild wrote:

    After failing all morning I tried the USB stick again
    It was recognized and auto mounted and popped up in Dolphin
    Three times flawless

    Actually to be precise, the stick is not auto mounted. It is just
    recognized and listed in Dolphin. It has a right click menu with mount
    option. A Left click performs the same function



    I would also suspect the USB extension cable but the USB stick didn't
    work yesterday when plugged directly into the socket. All sticks failed
    not just one

    I'm seriously considering the Drinking



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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sun May 29 03:41:23 2022
    On Sat, 28 May 2022 21:17:21 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 29/5/22 10:32, faeychild wrote:
    After failing all morning I tried the USB stick again
    It was recognized and auto mounted and popped up in Dolphin
    Three times flawless

    Glad it's working now.

    Actually to be precise, the stick is not auto mounted. It is just
    recognized and listed in Dolphin. It has a right click menu with mount option. A Left click performs the same function
    I would also suspect the USB extension cable but the USB stick didn't
    work yesterday when plugged directly into the socket. All sticks failed
    not just one
    I'm seriously considering the Drinking

    Lol.

    The optical drive polling starts before the login screen is presented. While there is no notifying the user, since there are no logged in users, the polling starts when udev starts, or haldaemon for very old installs.

    Regarding the the usb not working/working, your guess is as good as mine.

    Regards

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Sun May 29 14:32:16 2022
    On 5/28/22 22:41, David W. Hodgins wrote:


    Regarding the the usb not working/working, your guess is as good as mine.

    My first suspect would be a worn usb port, where the user has to plug in
    the stick just so or it doesn't work. I have a couple like that on an
    old case that I've had for many years.

    My solution was to buy a four-port hub that fits into the floppy bay,
    and connect it to an internal header.

    TJ


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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Sun May 29 22:47:42 2022
    On 29/5/22 12:41, David W. Hodgins wrote:


    Regarding the the usb not working/working, your guess is as good as mine.

    Regards

    Eventually, it's always a guess


    The new HD is making a regular quiet clunk with no accompanying light


    I'm guessing maybe a faulty drive after all, or not
    I suppose a new drive could be defective and difficult to prove

    Or perhaps I'm unwittingly living on an old indigenous burial ground

    regards


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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sun May 29 22:53:31 2022
    On Sun, 29 May 2022 17:47:42 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    The new HD is making a regular quiet clunk with no accompanying light

    Parking the heads? See the -J option of "man hdparm".

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Mon May 30 23:43:52 2022
    On 30/5/22 07:53, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Sun, 29 May 2022 17:47:42 -0400, faeychild
    <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    The new HD is making a regular quiet clunk with no accompanying light

    Parking the heads? See the -J option of "man hdparm".

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


    That's a disappointing read and changing it with Windows exe file will
    be difficult

    "A full power cycle is required for any change in setting to take effect"

    I suppose this means turn it off and on again.

    Guess who wont buy WD next time

    regards

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Tue May 31 00:55:40 2022
    On 31/5/22 08:43, faeychild wrote:


    OK If you enter WDIDLE3.EXE in the search function at https://www.westerndigital.com.

    The results do not inspire much confidence
    Five complaints are listed. One in Russian

    I bought a lemon, didn't I?


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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Tue May 31 01:07:05 2022
    On 31/5/22 09:55, faeychild wrote:
    On 31/5/22 08:43, faeychild wrote:


    OK  If you enter WDIDLE3.EXE in the search function at https://www.westerndigital.com.

    The results do not inspire much confidence
    Five complaints are listed. One in Russian

    I bought a lemon, didn't I?


    There be hope yet

    I found


    "i used the alternative opensource (actually FreeSoftware) linux based
    tool --> http://idle3-tools.sourceforge.net/"


    It must be compiled first. And a first compile for me!!
    That will require aa quiet afternoon

    regards
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  • From Aragorn@2:250/1 to All on Tue May 31 07:00:59 2022
    On 31.05.2022 at 08:43, faeychild scribbled:

    Guess who wont buy WD next time

    Western Digital in and of itself is okay. What matters is the
    type/model of HDD you buy. =20

    Best is to buy a model from the Black or Enterprise series, and WD Green
    is a model range you had better stay away from, because they park and
    spin themselves down like crazy, and they don't survive for very long,
    exactly because of that.

    Besides, it's pointless anyway. The electricity you save by spinning
    the drive down is all wasted again when it has to spin back up, which
    requires a lot more effort from the spindle motor and draws far more
    current from the PSU than just keeping the drive spinning all the time.

    Furthermore, the heads of a HDD are kept afloat above the platters by
    the principle of aerodynamics =E2=80=94 the air inside the drive housing is moved by the spinning of the platters. This means that when the
    platters aren't spinning =E2=80=94 or aren't spinning fast enough =E2=80=94=
    the heads
    will be in contact with the platter surface. =20

    This is why the heads need to be parked. In some HDD designs =E2=80=94 e.g. the IBM-designed UltraStor range that was later sold to Hitachi =E2=80=94 t=
    he
    heads are parked on a ramp outside of the platter circumference, but in
    other designs =E2=80=94 most Seagate and Quantum designs =E2=80=94 the head=
    s are
    parked on the innermost cylinder of the platters. =20

    This innermost cylinder will then typically not be coated with the ferromagnetic material that the rest of the platters have, but will
    rather have a smooth surface. However, this method of parking in turn
    means that the heads will then still be in contact with the platter
    surface for a while when the platters start rotating, and that they
    will also already be in contact with the platter surface again due to
    the loss of aerodynamic lift before the spindle motor has fully spooled
    down. This friction generates extra wear on the heads, and possibly
    also on the actuators, because they will experience a lateral force
    before the heads can clear the platters.

    If you want your HDDs to survive for a long time, keep them spinning.
    Best advice I can give you. ;)

    --=20
    With respect,
    =3D Aragorn =3D


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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Wed Jun 1 00:23:40 2022
    On 31/5/22 16:00, Aragorn wrote:


    If you want your HDDs to survive for a long time, keep them spinning.
    Best advice I can give you. ;)




    I can only agree with you, Aragorn.

    My first thought was why park the heads every eight seconds on an
    operating HD.
    It seems like a fairly stupid decision, maybe management one :-)


    My drive is thumping about every four seconds. I will keep an eye on
    it for a week and think about trying the utility

    The HD is a Western Digital WD Red Pro 6TB WD6003FFBX 3.5in NAS Hard Drive.

    I imagine that continually parking the heads on a NAS drive would
    severely impact performance

    regards
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  • From red floyd@2:250/1 to All on Wed Jun 1 00:29:25 2022
    On 5/31/2022 4:23 PM, faeychild wrote:
    On 31/5/22 16:00, Aragorn wrote:


    If you want your HDDs to survive for a long time, keep them spinning.
    Best advice I can give you. ;)




     I can only agree with you, Aragorn.

    My first thought was why park the heads every eight seconds on an
    operating HD.
    It seems like a fairly stupid decision, maybe management one :-)


     My drive is thumping about every four seconds.  I will keep an eye on
    it for a week and think about trying the utility

    The HD is a  Western Digital WD Red Pro 6TB WD6003FFBX 3.5in NAS Hard Drive.

    I imagine that continually parking the heads on a NAS drive would
    severely impact performance

    I'm using Red Pros (10GB) in my NAS as well. They don't seem to thump
    every 4 seconds. I'm wondering if you have a bad drive.



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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Wed Jun 1 04:04:47 2022
    On 1/6/22 09:29, red floyd wrote:

    I'm using Red Pros (10GB) in my NAS as well.  They don't seem to thump every 4 seconds.   I'm wondering if you have a bad drive.



    It is a new drive several days old and that though is in the back of my
    mind also but proving it to myself and then the vendor would would be difficult

    I may try the source forge tool sometime and check if the thump
    timing alters

    regards


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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Wed Jun 1 04:58:01 2022
    On Tue, 31 May 2022 23:04:47 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    It is a new drive several days old and that though is in the back of my
    mind also but proving it to myself and then the vendor would would be difficult

    I may try the source forge tool sometime and check if the thump
    timing alters

    Have you tried it in linux, even if it's just from a live iso?

    In linux try (as root" "hdparm -J /dev/sd?" (with the correct drive letter)
    to see what the current value is, and then "hdparm -J 30 /dev/sd?" to
    change it. As it requires a full poweroff/on to take effect, the change should work in both linux and windows.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Wed Jun 1 23:45:58 2022
    On 1/6/22 13:58, David W. Hodgins wrote:


    In linux try (as root" "hdparm -J /dev/sd?" (with the correct drive letter) to see what the current value is, and then "hdparm -J 30 /dev/sd?" to
    change it. As it requires a full poweroff/on to take effect, the change should
    work in both linux and windows.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


    Not what I expected

    [root@unimatrix ~]# hdparm -J /dev/sda

    /dev/sda:
    SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0a 04 53 00
    00 21 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0a 04 53 00
    00 21 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0a 04 53 00
    00 21 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0a 04 53 00
    00 21 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    wdidle3 = disabled
    [root@unimatrix ~]#



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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jun 2 00:20:38 2022
    On Wed, 01 Jun 2022 18:45:58 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    On 1/6/22 13:58, David W. Hodgins wrote:


    In linux try (as root" "hdparm -J /dev/sd?" (with the correct drive letter) >> to see what the current value is, and then "hdparm -J 30 /dev/sd?" to
    change it. As it requires a full poweroff/on to take effect, the change
    should
    work in both linux and windows.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


    Not what I expected

    [root@unimatrix ~]# hdparm -J /dev/sda

    /dev/sda:
    SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0a 04 53 00
    00 21 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0a 04 53 00
    00 21 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0a 04 53 00
    00 21 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0a 04 53 00
    00 21 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    wdidle3 = disabled

    Is this drive connected over a usb interface? It needs to be connected directly to a sata controller.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jun 2 04:10:54 2022
    On 2/6/22 09:20, David W. Hodgins wrote:


    Is this drive connected over a usb interface? It needs to be connected directly
    to a sata controller.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    It is connected to a sata port on the motherboard


    System Information
    Manufacturer: Gigabyte Technology Co., Ltd.
    Product Name: B250M-D3H



    ls -l /dev/disk/by-path/
    total 0
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jun 2 12:52 pci-0000:00:17.0-ata-2 -> ../../sda lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jun 2 12:52 pci-0000:00:17.0-ata-2.0 -> ../../sda lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jun 2 12:52 pci-0000:00:17.0-ata-2.0-part1 -> .../../sda1
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 10 Jun 2 12:52 pci-0000:00:17.0-ata-2-part1 -> .../../sda1
    lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jun 2 12:49 pci-0000:00:17.0-ata-4 -> ../../sr0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 9 Jun 2 12:49 pci-0000:00:17.0-ata-4.0 -> ../../sr0 lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Jun 2 12:49 pci-0000:02:00.0-nvme-1 -> .../../nvme0n1


    I have run systemrescue from a stick and the drive is still thumping

    I also pulled the sata cable from the drive and it still thumps.

    Maybe it's not looking good

    regards
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    faeychild
    Running plasmashell 5.20.4 on 5.15.43-desktop-1.mga8 kernel.
    Mageia release 8 (Official) for x86_64 installed via Mageia-8-x86_64-DVD.iso


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  • From Jim@2:250/1 to All on Thu Jun 2 14:47:04 2022
    On Thu, 02 Jun 2022 08:45:58 +1000, faeychild wrote:

    On 1/6/22 13:58, David W. Hodgins wrote:


    In linux try (as root" "hdparm -J /dev/sd?" (with the correct drive
    letter)
    to see what the current value is, and then "hdparm -J 30 /dev/sd?" to
    change it. As it requires a full poweroff/on to take effect, the change
    should work in both linux and windows.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


    Not what I expected

    [root@unimatrix ~]# hdparm -J /dev/sda

    /dev/sda:
    SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0a 04 53 00
    00 21 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0a 04 53 00 00 21 04
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0a 04 53 00 00 21 04 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 SG_IO: bad/missing sense data, sb[]: 70 00 05 00 00 00 00 0a 04 53 00 00 21 04 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00 00
    wdidle3 = disabled
    [root@unimatrix ~]#

    Replace 53 in the above each time with 51 and you get exactly what
    I get when I run hdparm -J /dev/sda (or sdb) on my main machine.

    My two drives are Samsung SSD 750 EVO solid state drives. No head
    parking involved.

    My guess is that a connection or cable is bad.

    Cheers!

    jim b.

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