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    From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Wed Aug 26 07:14:16 2020


    OK

    The SD card I though was broken may not be.
    Although the hardware doesn't detect it.
    It doesn't show up in the file manger
    Gparted hangs or just scans for a long time with the progress bar
    sweeping slowly.

    fdisk does see the SD card..

    Disk /dev/sdb: 59.5 GiB, 63864569856 bytes, 124735488 sectors
    Disk model: SD Transcend
    Units: sectors of 1 * 512 = 512 bytes
    Sector size (logical/physical): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    I/O size (minimum/optimal): 512 bytes / 512 bytes
    Disklabel type: dos
    Disk identifier: 0xd95270a1

    Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
    /dev/sdb1 2048 124735487 124733440 59.5G 83 Linux


    Transcend is the card reader

    I did attempt to delete and recreate the partition but I don't think primary/logical has any real bearing but it seemed to proceed

    At the end of "w" " write to disk and quit" I started gparted to attempt
    a format. Once again gparted seemed to hang.
    Maybe I should let it run for some time.

    Currently I have hit the wall




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  • From Wes Newell@2:250/1 to All on Wed Aug 26 12:14:09 2020
    Reply-To: wes@nowhere.net

    On 8/26/20 1:14 AM, faeychild wrote:
    Device     Boot Start       End   Sectors  Size Id Type /dev/sdb1        2048 124735487 124733440 59.5G 83 Linux


    Transcend is the card reader

    I did attempt to delete and recreate the partition but I don't think primary/logical has any real bearing but it seemed to proceed

    At the end of "w" " write to disk and quit" I started gparted to attempt
    a format. Once again gparted seemed to hang.
    Maybe I should let it run for  some time.

    Currently I have hit the wall
    Try sudo mkfs /dev/sdb1 from cl

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Wed Aug 26 17:50:46 2020
    On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 02:14:16 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:

    The SD card I though was broken may not be.
    Although the hardware doesn't detect it.
    It doesn't show up in the file manger
    Gparted hangs or just scans for a long time with the progress bar
    sweeping slowly.

    I wonder if there is a problem somewhere else that is causing gparted to hang, or does it run ok if the card is not present?

    Please do try using diskdrake to partition/format the card.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Thu Aug 27 00:31:19 2020
    On 27/8/20 2:50 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:


    I wonder if there is a problem somewhere else that is causing gparted to hang,
    or does it run ok if the card is not present?

    Please do try using diskdrake to partition/format the card.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


    Both gparted and disk drake hang.
    They complete start up when the SD card is unplugged.
    They both seem unable to complete the startup process while the SD card
    is plugged in.
    So some device is obviously detected by both programs but the are unable
    to follow through.

    This doses not affect fdisk in the same manner

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Thu Aug 27 01:05:24 2020
    On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 19:31:19 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    Both gparted and disk drake hang.
    They complete start up when the SD card is unplugged.

    There's something about that card they don't like. :-(

    First thing I'd do is to check the output of dmesg after one of them hangs to see if there is a hardware error being detected, which may be caused by fixable
    things like dirty contacts in the reader, or on the card, or a poor connection between the reader and the motherboard. Try reseating the cable that connects them.

    Next thing I'd try is to erase the partition table with (run as root)
    "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb bs=1M count=1", then remove/reinsert the card
    and try diskdrake again.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Thu Aug 27 02:14:18 2020
    On 26/8/20 9:14 pm, Wes Newell wrote:
    mkfs /dev/sdb1


    ~]# mkfs /dev/sdb1
    mke2fs 1.45.5 (07-Jan-2020)
    Creating filesystem with 15591680 4k blocks and 3899392 inodes
    Filesystem UUID: 5bf0879e-ad87-483d-801f-b2181ef56339
    Superblock backups stored on blocks:
    32768, 98304, 163840, 229376, 294912, 819200, 884736, 1605632, 2654208,
    4096000, 7962624, 11239424

    Allocating group tables: done
    Writing inode tables: done
    Writing superblocks and filesystem accounting information: done

    That seems to have cleared things up

    I formatted to fat32 with gparted exfat is greyed out.

    My Googling suggests that SD cards above 32 Gig have to be formatted exfat

    regards




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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Thu Aug 27 02:27:00 2020
    On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 21:14:18 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    I formatted to fat32 with gparted exfat is greyed out.

    The gparted program doesn't support exfat yet and neither does diskdrake.

    Install exfatprogs if you haven't already, and run
    mkfs.exfat /dev/sdb1.
    Optionally add "-L thatsd" as an option to specify a label.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Thu Aug 27 02:29:02 2020
    On 27/8/20 10:05 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:
    On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 19:31:19 -0400, faeychild
    <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    Both gparted and disk drake hang.
    They complete start up when the SD card is unplugged.

    There's something about that card they don't like. :-(



    Wes's solution has jumped the gun.

    But something didn't like something somewhere.

    from my first post

    Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
    /dev/sdb1 2048 124735487 124733440 59.5G 83 Linux

    I can't see how this result from a Windows widget on Windows 10 could
    have produced a broken SD card with a linux ID 83

    I could be barking up the wrong tree again


    regards



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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Thu Aug 27 02:48:38 2020
    On Wed, 26 Aug 2020 21:29:02 -0400, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    from my first post

    Device Boot Start End Sectors Size Id Type
    /dev/sdb1 2048 124735487 124733440 59.5G 83 Linux

    I can't see how this result from a Windows widget on Windows 10 could
    have produced a broken SD card with a linux ID 83

    I forgot about the partition type that windows needs.

    According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_type
    it's type 07, the same as ntfs. So use gparted or diskdrake to change the partition type to ntfs, then use the mkfs.exfat to change it to exfat.
    Either that or stick with ntfs instead of exfat.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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  • From Wes Newell@2:250/1 to All on Thu Aug 27 05:34:34 2020
    Reply-To: wes@nowhere.net

    On 8/26/20 8:14 PM, faeychild wrote:
    My Googling suggests that SD cards above 32 Gig have to be formatted exfat
    They don't have to be. That's just the standard for new cards over 32GB.
    First thing I do is reformat them.

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Thu Aug 27 23:06:04 2020
    On 27/8/20 2:34 pm, Wes Newell wrote:
    On 8/26/20 8:14 PM, faeychild wrote:
    My Googling suggests that SD cards above 32 Gig have to be formatted
    exfat
    They don't have to be. That's just the standard for new cards over 32GB. First thing I do is reformat them.


    I don't think the camera is smart enough to read exfat.

    Just a thought .. how about phones. Do they format the 64 Gig card to exfat?


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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Thu Aug 27 23:09:01 2020
    On 27/8/20 11:48 am, David W. Hodgins wrote:


    According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Partition_type
    it's type 07, the same as ntfs. So use gparted or diskdrake to change the partition type to ntfs, then use the mkfs.exfat to change it to exfat.
    Either that or stick with ntfs instead of exfat.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins


    When I feel like an afternoon of pain, I may run some tests with the
    camera widgets format command and see what it does to various SD cards

    regards
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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Thu Aug 27 23:22:33 2020
    On 2020-08-27, faeychild <faeychild@nomail.afraid.org> wrote:
    On 27/8/20 2:34 pm, Wes Newell wrote:
    On 8/26/20 8:14 PM, faeychild wrote:
    My Googling suggests that SD cards above 32 Gig have to be formatted
    exfat
    They don't have to be. That's just the standard for new cards over 32GB.
    First thing I do is reformat them.


    I don't think the camera is smart enough to read exfat.
    Since we have no idea which camera you have it is clearly an impossible statement to respond to.


    Just a thought .. how about phones. Do they format the 64 Gig card to exfat?

    It will surely depend on the phone.
    My phone does not support memory cards.

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  • From faeychild@2:250/1 to All on Fri Aug 28 23:40:04 2020
    On 28/8/20 8:22 am, William Unruh wrote:


    I don't think the camera is smart enough to read exfat.
    Since we have no idea which camera you have it is clearly an impossible statement to respond to.

    For academic interest it's Zetta Z15

    It is not bad. mediocre in quality. I am usually adverse to anything
    labeled 'Z" or "X" or "Pro" or "Extreme"...etc



    Just a thought .. how about phones. Do they format the 64 Gig card to exfat?

    It will surely depend on the phone.
    My phone does not support memory cards.


    Further research indicates that fat32 is OK for cards above 32 Gig but
    it is not as efficient as exfat. I haven't looked any deeper into it.

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