• How long until next version??

    From Daniel60@2:250/1 to All on Thu Mar 26 09:50:44 2020
    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of the
    world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and see if I
    can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle (having read
    a couple of things in another thread here that gives me some new hope!!).

    So I checked out the mageia.org site and it offered me Ver 7.1, released
    July 2019, i.e. eight or nine months ago, with support due to expire
    towards the end of this year. So I'm prompted to ask ....

    How long before the next version (7.2 or 8) is scheduled to be
    released?? Any sort of indication would be appreciated!

    Not that I want to rush it or anything .... as it seems I might have six months or so to fill up/in!! ;-P

    TIA.

    --
    Daniel

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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Thu Mar 26 10:27:50 2020
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 20:50:44 +1100, Daniel60 wrote:
    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of the
    world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and see if I
    can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle (having read
    a couple of things in another thread here that gives me some new hope!!).

    Next release 8 will be ready when it is ready. :)

    You have a few options.
    1. Download a network install iso and do a clean install over the
    internet.
    2. Do an upgrade from mga7 to mga8 (Cauldron)

    mga8 (Cauldron) image/isos found in http(mirror_of_choice_here)/mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/install/images/

    Mirror urls can be found here https://mirrors.mageia.org/
    Whether doing clean install or upgrade do check your mirror of choice at
    https://mirrors.mageia.org/status
    to see if somewhat up to date.

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Thu Mar 26 19:59:20 2020
    On 3/26/20 6:27 AM, Bit Twister wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 20:50:44 +1100, Daniel60 wrote:
    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of the
    world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and see if I
    can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle (having read
    a couple of things in another thread here that gives me some new hope!!).

    Next release 8 will be ready when it is ready. :)

    You have a few options.
    1. Download a network install iso and do a clean install over the
    internet.
    2. Do an upgrade from mga7 to mga8 (Cauldron)

    mga8 (Cauldron) image/isos found in http(mirror_of_choice_here)/mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/install/images/

    Mirror urls can be found here https://mirrors.mageia.org/
    Whether doing clean install or upgrade do check your mirror of choice at
    https://mirrors.mageia.org/status
    to see if somewhat up to date.

    As I recall, netinstall isn't really a viable option for Daniel, because
    of the nature of his Internet connection.

    TJ

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Fri Mar 27 02:41:41 2020
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 05:50:44 -0400, Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of the
    world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and see if I
    can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle (having read
    a couple of things in another thread here that gives me some new hope!!).

    So I checked out the mageia.org site and it offered me Ver 7.1, released
    July 2019, i.e. eight or nine months ago, with support due to expire
    towards the end of this year. So I'm prompted to ask ....

    How long before the next version (7.2 or 8) is scheduled to be
    released?? Any sort of indication would be appreciated!

    Not that I want to rush it or anything .... as it seems I might have six months or so to fill up/in!! ;-P

    The schedule for Mageia 8 has not been set yet. If Mageia 8 is not be out by at
    least 3 months before the currently scheduled end of support for Mageia 7 of Dec. 2020, then support for Mageia 7 will be extended.

    We try to ensure there is at least a 3 month overlap of releases.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    --
    Change dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org to davidwhodgins@teksavvy.com for
    email replies.

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  • From Daniel60@2:250/1 to All on Fri Mar 27 06:52:51 2020
    David W. Hodgins wrote on 27/03/2020 1:41 PM:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 05:50:44 -0400, Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of
    the world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and
    see if I can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle
    (having read a couple of things in another thread here that gives
    me some new hope!!).

    So I checked out the mageia.org site and it offered me Ver 7.1,
    released July 2019, i.e. eight or nine months ago, with support due
    to expire towards the end of this year. So I'm prompted to ask
    ....

    How long before the next version (7.2 or 8) is scheduled to be
    released?? Any sort of indication would be appreciated!

    Not that I want to rush it or anything .... as it seems I might
    have six months or so to fill up/in!! ;-P

    The schedule for Mageia 8 has not been set yet. If Mageia 8 is not be
    out by at least 3 months before the currently scheduled end of
    support for Mageia 7 of Dec. 2020, then support for Mageia 7 will be extended.

    We try to ensure there is at least a 3 month overlap of releases.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    Thanks, Dave.

    One of my sister's rang this afternoon to organise me to visit for
    Dinner, so that will give me Wi-Fi access to her 200GB/M Account, so I
    guess I'll use some of that to get MGA 7.1, then.

    --
    Daniel

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  • From Daniel60@2:250/1 to All on Fri Mar 27 06:55:43 2020
    TJ wrote on 27/03/2020 6:59 AM:
    On 3/26/20 6:27 AM, Bit Twister wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 20:50:44 +1100, Daniel60 wrote:
    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of the
    world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and see if I >>> can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle (having read
    a couple of things in another thread here that gives me some new
    hope!!).

    Next release 8 will be ready when it is ready.  :)

    You have a few options.
    1.  Download a network install iso and do a clean install over the
         internet.
    2. Do an upgrade from mga7 to mga8 (Cauldron)

    mga8 (Cauldron) image/isos found in
    http(mirror_of_choice_here)/mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/install/images/ >>

    Mirror urls can be found here   https://mirrors.mageia.org/
    Whether doing clean install or upgrade do check your mirror of choice at
      https://mirrors.mageia.org/status
    to see if somewhat up to date.

    As I recall, netinstall isn't really a viable option for Daniel, because
    of the nature of his Internet connection.

    TJ

    Oh!! People do recall me!! :-) Hmm!! Should I be worried?? ;-(

    Can't say I've ever tried Cauldron .... but I've got the time!!
    --
    Daniel

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Fri Mar 27 12:33:59 2020
    On 3/27/20 2:52 AM, Daniel60 wrote:
    David W. Hodgins wrote on 27/03/2020 1:41 PM:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 05:50:44 -0400, Daniel60
    <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of
    the world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and
    see if I can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle
    (having read a couple of things in another thread here that gives
    me some new hope!!).

    So I checked out the mageia.org site and it offered me Ver 7.1,
    released July 2019, i.e. eight or nine months ago, with support due
    to expire towards the end of this year. So I'm prompted to ask
    ....

    How long before the next version (7.2 or 8) is scheduled to be
    released?? Any sort of indication would be appreciated!

    Not that I want to rush it or anything .... as it seems I might
    have six months or so to fill up/in!! ;-P

    The schedule for Mageia 8 has not been set yet. If Mageia 8 is not be
    out by at least 3 months before the currently scheduled end of
    support for Mageia 7 of Dec. 2020, then support for Mageia 7 will be
    extended.

    We try to ensure there is at least a 3 month overlap of releases.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    Thanks, Dave.

    One of my sister's rang this afternoon to organise me to visit for
    Dinner, so that will give me Wi-Fi access to her 200GB/M Account, so I
    guess I'll use some of that to get MGA 7.1, then.

    Good luck. Here in New York State, such visits, even among relatives,
    are a big social-distancing no-no.

    TJ

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Fri Mar 27 15:46:25 2020
    On 2020-03-26, Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of the
    world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and see if I
    can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle (having read
    a couple of things in another thread here that gives me some new hope!!).

    So I checked out the mageia.org site and it offered me Ver 7.1, released July 2019, i.e. eight or nine months ago, with support due to expire
    towards the end of this year. So I'm prompted to ask ....

    Yes, that is the latest version. 7.1 was a "bugfix" for the installer.
    People are working on cauldron as we speak, which will eventually become version 8. It will probably come out sometime in summer, but could well
    be delayed.
    In the meantime 7 is being updated both with bug fixes, and even some
    major new changes.


    How long before the next version (7.2 or 8) is scheduled to be
    released?? Any sort of indication would be appreciated!

    Not that I want to rush it or anything .... as it seems I might have six months or so to fill up/in!! ;-P

    Or a year or two.


    TIA.


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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Fri Mar 27 15:52:30 2020
    On 2020-03-26, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 20:50:44 +1100, Daniel60 wrote:
    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of the
    world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and see if I
    can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle (having read
    a couple of things in another thread here that gives me some new hope!!).

    Next release 8 will be ready when it is ready. :)

    You have a few options.
    1. Download a network install iso and do a clean install over the
    internet.
    2. Do an upgrade from mga7 to mga8 (Cauldron)

    mga8 (Cauldron) image/isos found in http(mirror_of_choice_here)/mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/install/images/

    I would NOT advise that. Cauldron is a work in progress. It has bugs--
    perhaps lots of them. It is out there precisely so people can help track
    down those bugs which everyone KNOWS are in Cauldron. Unless you are
    very comfortable tracking down bugs, do not touch it.
    Instead ask specific questions. It might be possible to download some
    program which solves your problem. I have not idea how Mga7 handles 3G
    dongles except I have occasionally seen references to making some of
    them work here in the newsgroup. Tell us exactly what you have

    Note that Mageia Control Center --> Set up network has an entry for GPRS/EDGE/3G
    which suggests that it does handle at least some 3G network connections.



    Mirror urls can be found here https://mirrors.mageia.org/
    Whether doing clean install or upgrade do check your mirror of choice at
    https://mirrors.mageia.org/status
    to see if somewhat up to date.

    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.7.13 (GNU/Linux-x86_64)
    * Origin: A noiseless patient Spider (2:250/1@fidonet)
  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Fri Mar 27 16:09:05 2020
    On 2020-03-27, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
    On 3/27/20 2:52 AM, Daniel60 wrote:
    David W. Hodgins wrote on 27/03/2020 1:41 PM:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 05:50:44 -0400, Daniel60
    <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of
    the world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and
    see if I can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle
    (having read a couple of things in another thread here that gives
    me some new hope!!).

    So I checked out the mageia.org site and it offered me Ver 7.1,
    released July 2019, i.e. eight or nine months ago, with support due
    to expire towards the end of this year. So I'm prompted to ask
    ....

    How long before the next version (7.2 or 8) is scheduled to be
    released?? Any sort of indication would be appreciated!

    Not that I want to rush it or anything .... as it seems I might
    have six months or so to fill up/in!! ;-P

    The schedule for Mageia 8 has not been set yet. If Mageia 8 is not be
    out by at least 3 months before the currently scheduled end of
    support for Mageia 7 of Dec. 2020, then support for Mageia 7 will be
    extended.

    We try to ensure there is at least a 3 month overlap of releases.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    Thanks, Dave.

    One of my sister's rang this afternoon to organise me to visit for
    Dinner, so that will give me Wi-Fi access to her 200GB/M Account, so I
    guess I'll use some of that to get MGA 7.1, then.

    Good luck. Here in New York State, such visits, even among relatives,
    are a big social-distancing no-no.



    Agreed. That is true anywhere. Covid-19 in general infects 2-3 new
    people from each infected person. If per chance you are in an early
    stage but still infectious, you WILL infect everyone in that house.
    One has to get that infection number down to below 1, and if that is the
    case on average, then the infection will die out. If not it will
    increase exponentially until everyone in the world has been infected.
    (That is the trajectory we are on now). And that would cost something
    like 2-3 million lives in the USA alone, and there is nothing anyone can
    do about it, since that would utterly swamp the hospitals-- imagine 10
    million people all needing ventilators at the same time.
    (It's not as bad a measles -- apparently there the average infection
    rate is about 8 people per person that gets it (assuming they are
    unvaccinated)

    Have your relatives download it for you onto a USB stick and leave it
    outside their door for you to pick up.

    TJ

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    * Origin: A noiseless patient Spider (2:250/1@fidonet)
  • From Daniel60@2:250/1 to All on Sun Mar 29 08:39:11 2020
    William Unruh wrote on 28/03/2020 2:52 AM:
    On 2020-03-26, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 20:50:44 +1100, Daniel60 wrote:
    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of the
    world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and see if I >>> can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle (having read
    a couple of things in another thread here that gives me some new hope!!). >>
    Next release 8 will be ready when it is ready. :)

    You have a few options.
    1. Download a network install iso and do a clean install over the
    internet.
    2. Do an upgrade from mga7 to mga8 (Cauldron)

    mga8 (Cauldron) image/isos found in
    http(mirror_of_choice_here)/mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/install/images/

    I would NOT advise that. Cauldron is a work in progress. It has bugs-- perhaps lots of them. It is out there precisely so people can help track
    down those bugs which everyone KNOWS are in Cauldron. Unless you are
    very comfortable tracking down bugs, do not touch it.
    Instead ask specific questions. It might be possible to download some
    program which solves your problem. I have not idea how Mga7 handles 3G dongles except I have occasionally seen references to making some of
    them work here in the newsgroup. Tell us exactly what you have

    Note that Mageia Control Center --> Set up network has an entry for GPRS/EDGE/3G

    I must have done this some time ago as, when I tried to connect, I would
    start up the 'Network Centre' and select "GPRS/EDGE/3G" and then click
    the 'Connect' button.

    which suggests that it does handle at least some 3G network connections.

    Good of you to respond, William, as it's your comments/replies to the
    thread "Screwed up DVD mount points" (OP 'Ar' about 10th Mar) where you
    stated the troubles Ar was having with their DVD/CD connections swapping
    from sr1 to sr0, or some such, that has sparked my revised interest in
    getting my 3G USB Dongle working.

    It seems that the address allocated to a device (e.g. wlp58s0) can
    change, depending on the order in which the various devices respond back
    to the booting OS.

    So I was thinking of checking out if my USB Dongles device address may
    have changed from when I booted (base) MGA 6 and (successfully)
    connected to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle to what is happening
    since I upgraded to MGA 6.1 and have since been unsuccessfully in
    connecting to the Internet via the same Dongle.

    And it has just occurred to me that I probably haven't tried plugging my Dongle to the other three USB ports to see if that matters!! I know it
    does to my Win7 OS, so could be a possibility!!

    --
    Daniel

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  • From Daniel60@2:250/1 to All on Sun Mar 29 13:01:22 2020
    Daniel60 wrote on 29/03/2020 6:39 PM:
    William Unruh wrote on 28/03/2020 2:52 AM:
    On 2020-03-26, Bit Twister <BitTwister@mouse-potato.com> wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 20:50:44 +1100, Daniel60 wrote:
    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of the
    world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and see
    if I
    can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle (having read >>>> a couple of things in another thread here that gives me some new
    hope!!).

    Next release 8 will be ready when it is ready.  :)

    You have a few options.
    1.  Download a network install iso and do a clean install over the
         internet.
    2. Do an upgrade from mga7 to mga8 (Cauldron)

    mga8 (Cauldron) image/isos found in
    http(mirror_of_choice_here)/mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/install/images/ >>>

    I would NOT advise that. Cauldron is a work in progress. It has bugs--
    perhaps lots of them. It is out there precisely so people can help track
    down those bugs which everyone KNOWS are in Cauldron. Unless you are
    very comfortable tracking down bugs, do not touch it.
    Instead ask specific questions. It might be possible to download some
    program which solves your problem.  I have not idea how Mga7 handles 3G
    dongles except I have occasionally seen references to making some of
    them work here in the newsgroup. Tell us exactly what you have

    Note that Mageia Control Center --> Set up network has an entry for
    GPRS/EDGE/3G

    I must have done this some time ago as, when I tried to connect, I would start up the 'Network Centre' and select "GPRS/EDGE/3G" and then click
    the 'Connect' button.

    which suggests that it does handle at least some 3G network connections.

    Good of you to respond, William, as it's your comments/replies to the
    thread "Screwed up DVD mount points" (OP 'Ar' about 10th Mar) where you stated the troubles Ar was having with their DVD/CD connections swapping from sr1 to sr0, or some such, that has sparked my revised interest in getting my 3G USB Dongle working.

    It seems that the address allocated to a device (e.g. wlp58s0) can
    change, depending on the order in which the various devices respond back
    to the booting OS.

    So I was thinking of checking out if my USB Dongles device address may
    have changed from when I booted (base) MGA 6 and (successfully)
    connected to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle to what is happening
    since I upgraded to MGA 6.1 and have since been unsuccessfully in
    connecting to the Internet via the same Dongle.

    And it has just occurred to me that I probably haven't tried plugging my Dongle to the other three USB ports to see if that matters!! I know it
    does to my Win7 OS, so could be a possibility!!

    Now tried ... and failed ... with all four!!

    --
    Daniel

    --- MBSE BBS v1.0.7.13 (GNU/Linux-x86_64)
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  • From Daniel60@2:250/1 to All on Sun Mar 29 13:03:52 2020
    William Unruh wrote on 28/03/2020 3:09 AM:
    On 2020-03-27, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
    On 3/27/20 2:52 AM, Daniel60 wrote:
    David W. Hodgins wrote on 27/03/2020 1:41 PM:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 05:50:44 -0400, Daniel60
    <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of
    the world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and
    see if I can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle
    (having read a couple of things in another thread here that gives
    me some new hope!!).

    So I checked out the mageia.org site and it offered me Ver 7.1,
    released July 2019, i.e. eight or nine months ago, with support due
    to expire towards the end of this year. So I'm prompted to ask
    ....

    How long before the next version (7.2 or 8) is scheduled to be
    released?? Any sort of indication would be appreciated!

    Not that I want to rush it or anything .... as it seems I might
    have six months or so to fill up/in!! ;-P

    The schedule for Mageia 8 has not been set yet. If Mageia 8 is not be
    out by at least 3 months before the currently scheduled end of
    support for Mageia 7 of Dec. 2020, then support for Mageia 7 will be
    extended.

    We try to ensure there is at least a 3 month overlap of releases.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    Thanks, Dave.

    One of my sister's rang this afternoon to organise me to visit for
    Dinner, so that will give me Wi-Fi access to her 200GB/M Account, so I
    guess I'll use some of that to get MGA 7.1, then.

    Good luck. Here in New York State, such visits, even among relatives,
    are a big social-distancing no-no.



    Agreed. That is true anywhere. Covid-19 in general infects 2-3 new
    people from each infected person. If per chance you are in an early
    stage but still infectious, you WILL infect everyone in that house.
    One has to get that infection number down to below 1, and if that is the
    case on average, then the infection will die out. If not it will
    increase exponentially until everyone in the world has been infected.
    (That is the trajectory we are on now). And that would cost something
    like 2-3 million lives in the USA alone, and there is nothing anyone can
    do about it, since that would utterly swamp the hospitals-- imagine 10 million people all needing ventilators at the same time.
    (It's not as bad a measles -- apparently there the average infection
    rate is about 8 people per person that gets it (assuming they are unvaccinated)

    Have your relatives download it for you onto a USB stick and leave it
    outside their door for you to pick up.

    TJ


    --
    Daniel

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    * Origin: A noiseless patient Spider (2:250/1@fidonet)
  • From Daniel60@2:250/1 to All on Sun Mar 29 13:07:03 2020
    William Unruh wrote on 28/03/2020 3:09 AM:
    On 2020-03-27, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
    On 3/27/20 2:52 AM, Daniel60 wrote:
    David W. Hodgins wrote on 27/03/2020 1:41 PM:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 05:50:44 -0400, Daniel60
    <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of
    the world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and
    see if I can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle
    (having read a couple of things in another thread here that gives
    me some new hope!!).

    So I checked out the mageia.org site and it offered me Ver 7.1,
    released July 2019, i.e. eight or nine months ago, with support due
    to expire towards the end of this year. So I'm prompted to ask
    ....

    How long before the next version (7.2 or 8) is scheduled to be
    released?? Any sort of indication would be appreciated!

    Not that I want to rush it or anything .... as it seems I might
    have six months or so to fill up/in!! ;-P

    The schedule for Mageia 8 has not been set yet. If Mageia 8 is not be
    out by at least 3 months before the currently scheduled end of
    support for Mageia 7 of Dec. 2020, then support for Mageia 7 will be
    extended.

    We try to ensure there is at least a 3 month overlap of releases.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    Thanks, Dave.

    One of my sister's rang this afternoon to organise me to visit for
    Dinner, so that will give me Wi-Fi access to her 200GB/M Account, so I
    guess I'll use some of that to get MGA 7.1, then.

    Good luck. Here in New York State, such visits, even among relatives,
    are a big social-distancing no-no.



    Agreed. That is true anywhere. Covid-19 in general infects 2-3 new
    people from each infected person. If per chance you are in an early
    stage but still infectious, you WILL infect everyone in that house.
    One has to get that infection number down to below 1, and if that is the
    case on average, then the infection will die out. If not it will
    increase exponentially until everyone in the world has been infected.
    (That is the trajectory we are on now). And that would cost something
    like 2-3 million lives in the USA alone, and there is nothing anyone can
    do about it, since that would utterly swamp the hospitals-- imagine 10 million people all needing ventilators at the same time.
    (It's not as bad a measles -- apparently there the average infection
    rate is about 8 people per person that gets it (assuming they are unvaccinated)

    Have your relatives download it for you onto a USB stick and leave it
    outside their door for you to pick up.

    Thanks for caring, William, but too late!! And the wholesome country air probably did me good!!

    Couldn't find a site for MGA 8 Cauldron that worked ..... but that's
    later .... maybe!!
    --
    Daniel

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  • From Daniel60@2:250/1 to All on Sun Mar 29 13:08:48 2020
    William Unruh wrote on 28/03/2020 2:46 AM:
    On 2020-03-26, Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of the
    world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and see if I
    can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle (having read
    a couple of things in another thread here that gives me some new hope!!).

    So I checked out the mageia.org site and it offered me Ver 7.1, released
    July 2019, i.e. eight or nine months ago, with support due to expire
    towards the end of this year. So I'm prompted to ask ....

    Yes, that is the latest version. 7.1 was a "bugfix" for the installer.
    People are working on cauldron as we speak, which will eventually become version 8. It will probably come out sometime in summer, but could well
    be delayed.
    In the meantime 7 is being updated both with bug fixes, and even some
    major new changes.


    How long before the next version (7.2 or 8) is scheduled to be
    released?? Any sort of indication would be appreciated!

    Not that I want to rush it or anything .... as it seems I might have six
    months or so to fill up/in!! ;-P

    Or a year or two.

    Oh, you pessimist, William!! ;-P

    --
    Daniel

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  • From Aragorn@2:250/1 to All on Mon Mar 30 01:13:06 2020
    On 29.03.2020 at 23:08, Daniel60 scribbled:

    William Unruh wrote on 28/03/2020 2:46 AM:

    On 2020-03-26, Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

    How long before the next version (7.2 or 8) is scheduled to be
    released?? Any sort of indication would be appreciated!

    Not that I want to rush it or anything .... as it seems I might
    have six months or so to fill up/in!! ;-P

    Or a year or two.

    Oh, you pessimist, William!! ;-P

    Just install Slackware. It has the very latest version of everything, including the only recently released KDE 4.2. :p


    --
    With respect,
    = Aragorn =


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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Mon Mar 30 01:14:19 2020
    On 2020-03-29, Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
    William Unruh wrote on 28/03/2020 3:09 AM:
    On 2020-03-27, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
    On 3/27/20 2:52 AM, Daniel60 wrote:
    David W. Hodgins wrote on 27/03/2020 1:41 PM:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 05:50:44 -0400, Daniel60
    <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of
    the world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and >>>>>> see if I can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle >>>>>> (having read a couple of things in another thread here that gives
    me some new hope!!).

    So I checked out the mageia.org site and it offered me Ver 7.1,
    released July 2019, i.e. eight or nine months ago, with support due >>>>>> to expire towards the end of this year. So I'm prompted to ask
    ....

    How long before the next version (7.2 or 8) is scheduled to be
    released?? Any sort of indication would be appreciated!

    Not that I want to rush it or anything .... as it seems I might
    have six months or so to fill up/in!! ;-P

    The schedule for Mageia 8 has not been set yet. If Mageia 8 is not be >>>>> out by at least 3 months before the currently scheduled end of
    support for Mageia 7 of Dec. 2020, then support for Mageia 7 will be >>>>> extended.

    We try to ensure there is at least a 3 month overlap of releases.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    Thanks, Dave.

    One of my sister's rang this afternoon to organise me to visit for
    Dinner, so that will give me Wi-Fi access to her 200GB/M Account, so I >>>> guess I'll use some of that to get MGA 7.1, then.

    Good luck. Here in New York State, such visits, even among relatives,
    are a big social-distancing no-no.



    Agreed. That is true anywhere. Covid-19 in general infects 2-3 new
    people from each infected person. If per chance you are in an early
    stage but still infectious, you WILL infect everyone in that house.
    One has to get that infection number down to below 1, and if that is the
    case on average, then the infection will die out. If not it will
    increase exponentially until everyone in the world has been infected.
    (That is the trajectory we are on now). And that would cost something
    like 2-3 million lives in the USA alone, and there is nothing anyone can
    do about it, since that would utterly swamp the hospitals-- imagine 10
    million people all needing ventilators at the same time.
    (It's not as bad a measles -- apparently there the average infection
    rate is about 8 people per person that gets it (assuming they are
    unvaccinated)

    Have your relatives download it for you onto a USB stick and leave it
    outside their door for you to pick up.

    Thanks for caring, William, but too late!! And the wholesome country air probably did me good!!

    The question is not just if it did you good but also if it did them
    good. Coming from the big bad city, you could already have been infected
    and been carrying it out to them.
    (A friend's wife died and the kids came to the funeral(from NY) . And then a couple of days later discovered one of them had Covid. So now everyone
    waits to see if, and to how many, it got transmitted.


    Couldn't find a site for MGA 8 Cauldron that worked ..... but that's
    later .... maybe!!

    Huh?
    mageia.jameswhitby.net/distribution/cauldron/x86_64

    Now perhaps you were looking for and iso to burn to your disk to install automatically. Cauldron does not work that way. It is only very late in
    the process that isos are made. It changes far too rapidly for them to
    make a iso for it. So you would need a usb stick and download about
    40GB of the actual cauldron repository.



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  • From Daniel60@2:250/1 to All on Mon Mar 30 07:34:35 2020
    William Unruh wrote on 30/03/2020 11:14 AM:
    On 2020-03-29, Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:
    William Unruh wrote on 28/03/2020 3:09 AM:
    On 2020-03-27, TJ <TJ@noneofyour.business> wrote:
    On 3/27/20 2:52 AM, Daniel60 wrote:
    David W. Hodgins wrote on 27/03/2020 1:41 PM:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 05:50:44 -0400, Daniel60
    <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of
    the world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and >>>>>>> see if I can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle >>>>>>> (having read a couple of things in another thread here that gives >>>>>>> me some new hope!!).

    So I checked out the mageia.org site and it offered me Ver 7.1,
    released July 2019, i.e. eight or nine months ago, with support due >>>>>>> to expire towards the end of this year. So I'm prompted to ask
    ....

    How long before the next version (7.2 or 8) is scheduled to be
    released?? Any sort of indication would be appreciated!

    Not that I want to rush it or anything .... as it seems I might
    have six months or so to fill up/in!! ;-P

    The schedule for Mageia 8 has not been set yet. If Mageia 8 is not be >>>>>> out by at least 3 months before the currently scheduled end of
    support for Mageia 7 of Dec. 2020, then support for Mageia 7 will be >>>>>> extended.

    We try to ensure there is at least a 3 month overlap of releases.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

    Thanks, Dave.

    One of my sister's rang this afternoon to organise me to visit for
    Dinner, so that will give me Wi-Fi access to her 200GB/M Account, so I >>>>> guess I'll use some of that to get MGA 7.1, then.

    Good luck. Here in New York State, such visits, even among relatives,
    are a big social-distancing no-no.



    Agreed. That is true anywhere. Covid-19 in general infects 2-3 new
    people from each infected person. If per chance you are in an early
    stage but still infectious, you WILL infect everyone in that house.
    One has to get that infection number down to below 1, and if that is the >>> case on average, then the infection will die out. If not it will
    increase exponentially until everyone in the world has been infected.
    (That is the trajectory we are on now). And that would cost something
    like 2-3 million lives in the USA alone, and there is nothing anyone can >>> do about it, since that would utterly swamp the hospitals-- imagine 10
    million people all needing ventilators at the same time.
    (It's not as bad a measles -- apparently there the average infection
    rate is about 8 people per person that gets it (assuming they are
    unvaccinated)

    Have your relatives download it for you onto a USB stick and leave it
    outside their door for you to pick up.

    Thanks for caring, William, but too late!! And the wholesome country air
    probably did me good!!

    The question is not just if it did you good but also if it did them
    good. Coming from the big bad city, you could already have been infected
    and been carrying it out to them.

    Many, many, years ago I lived in Melbourne (pop 3 to 4 million). Since
    leaving the Army, I lived 25-30 years in Wodonga (pop 30 thousand) and
    for the last 3-4 years, I've lived in Broadford (pop 4 thousand)

    I live one end of town, my sister lives the other end, about
    2km/1.25miles away!

    (A friend's wife died and the kids came to the funeral(from NY) . And then a couple of days later discovered one of them had Covid. So now everyone
    waits to see if, and to how many, it got transmitted.

    So sorry to hear this .... but I'm guessing you're not on your own!!
    Couldn't find a site for MGA 8 Cauldron that worked ..... but that's
    later .... maybe!!

    Huh?
    mageia.jameswhitby.net/distribution/cauldron/x86_64

    Now perhaps you were looking for and iso to burn to your disk to install automatically. Cauldron does not work that way. It is only very late in
    the process that isos are made. It changes far too rapidly for them to
    make a iso for it. So you would need a usb stick and download about
    40GB of the actual cauldron repository.

    Yes, I was expecting it to be a 4-6GB download that got updated as I
    used the system. 40GB!! Hmm! My 3GB/mth account couldn't handle that and
    I wouldn't want to push my relationship with my sister THAT far,
    either!! It took her quite a while (an hour or so) to download the
    60-odd MB file to install GihoSoft TubeGet program the other night!!

    Of course, she was doing stuff on Facebook, and elsewhere, at the same
    time!!

    --
    Daniel

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  • From Daniel60@2:250/1 to All on Mon Mar 30 07:36:14 2020
    Aragorn wrote on 30/03/2020 11:13 AM:
    On 29.03.2020 at 23:08, Daniel60 scribbled:

    William Unruh wrote on 28/03/2020 2:46 AM:

    On 2020-03-26, Daniel60 <daniel47@eternal-september.org> wrote:

    How long before the next version (7.2 or 8) is scheduled to be
    released?? Any sort of indication would be appreciated!

    Not that I want to rush it or anything .... as it seems I might
    have six months or so to fill up/in!! ;-P

    Or a year or two.

    Oh, you pessimist, William!! ;-P

    Just install Slackware. It has the very latest version of everything, including the only recently released KDE 4.2. :p

    Plenty of time, I'm thinking, plenty of time!!
    --
    Daniel

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Tue Mar 31 13:56:53 2020
    On 3/30/20 2:34 AM, Daniel60 wrote:


    Many, many, years ago I lived in Melbourne (pop 3 to 4 million). Since leaving the Army, I lived 25-30 years in Wodonga (pop 30 thousand) and
    for the last 3-4 years, I've lived in Broadford (pop 4 thousand)

    I live one end of town, my sister lives the other end, about
    2km/1.25miles away!

    Being 70 years old, I am officially in the "most vulnerable" group, even though as far as I know I don't have any underlying conditions that make
    the virus more dangerous for me. My house is in the middle of a 200-acre
    farm, in a rural part of the county. It is my ancestral home, with one
    of my brothers and me being the third generation of the family to own
    it. We are well isolated, AS LONG AS WE STAY HOME.

    Another brother and his wife live in a house just 1/4 mile away, on a
    piece of land that used to be part of the farm. They usually host Easter dinner, with many of their children and grandchildren attending, along
    with me and the brother that lives with me.

    It won't be happening this year, even though at the moment none of us,
    as far as I know, have any symptoms of the disease. Gatherings like that
    are banned by the President, Governor, and County Executive, and with
    good reason. If we were to have such a gathering, and were caught, there
    would be legal consequences.

    As of yesterday, there were 11 confirmed cases of covid-19 in my
    township, which means there are probably dozens more that aren't
    confirmed. There are over 250 confirmed cases in the county, which means
    the actual number of infected is probably in the thousands. Many of them
    are not showing symptoms, but are spreading virus if they go out,
    anyway. My brother's children and grandchildren could be among them.

    It's just not worth the risk.

    TJ

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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Tue Apr 7 17:56:05 2020
    On 26/3/20 9:27 pm, Bit Twister wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 20:50:44 +1100, Daniel60 wrote:
    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of the
    world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and see if I
    can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle (having read
    a couple of things in another thread here that gives me some new hope!!).

    Next release 8 will be ready when it is ready. :)

    You have a few options.
    1. Download a network install iso and do a clean install over the
    internet.
    2. Do an upgrade from mga7 to mga8 (Cauldron)

    mga8 (Cauldron) image/isos found in http(mirror_of_choice_here)/mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/install/images/

    Mirror urls can be found here https://mirrors.mageia.org/
    Whether doing clean install or upgrade do check your mirror of choice at
    https://mirrors.mageia.org/status
    to see if somewhat up to date.

    Interesting. The last time I looked, there were no isos available.
    When I have wanted Cauldron, I have downloaded the latest netinstall
    iso, but whether I could get a working system depended on the state of
    the servers. It seemed as though almost the whole mirror was out of
    action while it was being updated.

    Many of the images were .img files.

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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Tue Apr 7 18:45:13 2020
    On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 02:56:05 +1000, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    On 26/3/20 9:27 pm, Bit Twister wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 20:50:44 +1100, Daniel60 wrote:
    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of the
    world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and see if I >>> can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle (having read
    a couple of things in another thread here that gives me some new hope!!). >>
    Next release 8 will be ready when it is ready. :)

    You have a few options.
    1. Download a network install iso and do a clean install over the
    internet.
    2. Do an upgrade from mga7 to mga8 (Cauldron)

    mga8 (Cauldron) image/isos found in
    http(mirror_of_choice_here)/mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/install/images/ >>
    Mirror urls can be found here https://mirrors.mageia.org/
    Whether doing clean install or upgrade do check your mirror of choice at
    https://mirrors.mageia.org/status
    to see if it is somewhat up to date.

    Interesting. The last time I looked, there were no isos available.

    Interesting is correct. The majority of the time I check there is always
    a cauldron net install iso.


    When I have wanted Cauldron, I have downloaded the latest netinstall iso,

    Same here.

    but whether I could get a working system depended on the state of
    the servers. It seemed as though almost the whole mirror was out of
    action while it was being updated.

    Very true, all cauldron packages are in core and if *.hdlist.cz are being
    built or out of sync you are stuck continually re-trying until you get
    good sums. Hesse the caution to check mirror status.


    Many of the images were .img files.

    img files are only useful for users, if they really know their way
    around in grub.cfg file.

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  • From William Unruh@2:250/1 to All on Tue Apr 7 21:09:28 2020
    On 2020-04-07, Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:
    On 26/3/20 9:27 pm, Bit Twister wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 20:50:44 +1100, Daniel60 wrote:
    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of the
    world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and see if I >>> can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle (having read
    a couple of things in another thread here that gives me some new hope!!). >>
    Next release 8 will be ready when it is ready. :)

    You have a few options.
    1. Download a network install iso and do a clean install over the
    internet.
    2. Do an upgrade from mga7 to mga8 (Cauldron)

    mga8 (Cauldron) image/isos found in
    http(mirror_of_choice_here)/mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/install/images/ >>
    Mirror urls can be found here https://mirrors.mageia.org/
    Whether doing clean install or upgrade do check your mirror of choice at
    https://mirrors.mageia.org/status
    to see if somewhat up to date.

    Interesting. The last time I looked, there were no isos available.
    When I have wanted Cauldron, I have downloaded the latest netinstall
    iso, but whether I could get a working system depended on the state of
    the servers. It seemed as though almost the whole mirror was out of
    action while it was being updated.

    Many of the images were .img files.

    I think what he meant was the isos of the installation progrms, not an
    iso of the whole distro.

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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Wed Apr 8 14:29:59 2020
    On 4/7/20 1:45 PM, Bit Twister wrote:
    On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 02:56:05 +1000, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    On 26/3/20 9:27 pm, Bit Twister wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 20:50:44 +1100, Daniel60 wrote:
    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of the
    world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and see if I >>>> can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle (having read >>>> a couple of things in another thread here that gives me some new hope!!). >>>
    Next release 8 will be ready when it is ready. :)

    You have a few options.
    1. Download a network install iso and do a clean install over the
    internet.
    2. Do an upgrade from mga7 to mga8 (Cauldron)

    mga8 (Cauldron) image/isos found in
    http(mirror_of_choice_here)/mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/install/images/ >>>
    Mirror urls can be found here https://mirrors.mageia.org/
    Whether doing clean install or upgrade do check your mirror of choice at >>> https://mirrors.mageia.org/status
    to see if it is somewhat up to date.

    Interesting. The last time I looked, there were no isos available.

    Interesting is correct. The majority of the time I check there is always
    a cauldron net install iso.


    When I have wanted Cauldron, I have downloaded the latest netinstall iso,

    Same here.

    I've seen some discussion about isos, and it seems they are being held
    up because of some as yet unresolved conflicts. However, that
    information is sketchy and a few days old, so may be no longer valid.

    I created a Cauldron install last week by using the instructions found
    at https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cauldron#How_to_update_to_Mageia_Cauldron
    to update a Mageia 7 install using urpmi. The install is one that I use infrequently for testing purposes, and actually has been waiting to test Cauldron isos when they come out.

    It was the first time I had tried that procedure. The update went
    surprisingly well, and presented me with a working desktop. There were
    several orphans created during the process, but I left them right where
    they are, just in case.

    I haven't had occasion to do much with it yet. Mostly, I just wanted to
    see if it was working at all.

    TJ


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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Thu Apr 9 12:02:29 2020
    On 8/4/20 11:29 pm, TJ wrote:
    On 4/7/20 1:45 PM, Bit Twister wrote:
    On Wed, 8 Apr 2020 02:56:05 +1000, Doug Laidlaw wrote:
    On 26/3/20 9:27 pm, Bit Twister wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 20:50:44 +1100, Daniel60 wrote:
    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of the
    world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and see >>>>> if I
    can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle (having
    read
    a couple of things in another thread here that gives me some new
    hope!!).

    Next release 8 will be ready when it is ready.  :)

    You have a few options.
    1.  Download a network install iso and do a clean install over the
          internet.
    2. Do an upgrade from mga7 to mga8 (Cauldron)

    mga8 (Cauldron) image/isos found in
    http(mirror_of_choice_here)/mageia/distrib/cauldron/x86_64/install/images/


    Mirror urls can be found here   https://mirrors.mageia.org/
    Whether doing clean install or upgrade do check your mirror of
    choice at
       https://mirrors.mageia.org/status
    to see if it is somewhat up to date.

    Interesting.  The last time I looked, there were no isos available.

    Interesting is correct. The majority of the time I check there is always
    a cauldron net install iso.


    When I have wanted Cauldron, I have downloaded the latest netinstall
    iso,

    Same here.

    I've seen some discussion about isos, and it seems they are being held
    up because of some as yet unresolved conflicts. However, that
    information is sketchy and a few days old, so may be no longer valid.

    I created a Cauldron install last week by using the instructions found
    at https://wiki.mageia.org/en/Cauldron#How_to_update_to_Mageia_Cauldron
    to update a Mageia 7 install using urpmi. The install is one that I use infrequently for testing purposes, and actually has been waiting to test Cauldron isos when they come out.

    It was the first time I had tried that procedure. The update went surprisingly well, and presented me with a working desktop. There were several orphans created during the process, but I left them right where
    they are, just in case.

    I haven't had occasion to do much with it yet. Mostly, I just wanted to
    see if it was working at all.

    TJ

    The official word, from the Mageia Download Page, is:

    "LiveDVDs are not yet available. Classical Installation flavours is not
    yet available."

    The ones that Bits is talking about must be internal ISOs, not for
    general use. The only version offered is the network installation I
    used. Although rated alpha, it seemed quite stable.

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  • From Bit Twister@2:250/1 to All on Thu Apr 9 12:59:25 2020
    On Thu, 9 Apr 2020 21:02:29 +1000, Doug Laidlaw wrote:


    The official word, from the Mageia Download Page, is:

    "LiveDVDs are not yet available. Classical Installation flavours is not
    yet available."

    The ones that Bits is talking about must be internal ISOs, not for
    general use.

    Hehehe, Cauldron is not for general use.

    The only version offered is the network installation I used.

    and the only one kept halfway kept halfway current.

    Although rated alpha, it seemed quite stable.

    Mainly because its job is to bring up the system with enough code
    to get the installer running to do the install over the network.

    System stability from that point forward depends on rpms at that point
    in time.


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  • From TJ@2:250/1 to All on Fri Apr 10 13:54:56 2020
    On 4/9/20 7:02 AM, Doug Laidlaw wrote:


    The official word, from the Mageia Download Page, is:

    "LiveDVDs are not yet available. Classical Installation flavours is not
    yet available."

    The ones that Bits is talking about must be internal ISOs, not for
    general use.  The only version offered is the network installation I used.  Although rated alpha, it seemed quite stable.

    I will see them before you do. I'm part of the team that will test those
    isos before they find their way to the Download page.

    We are as eager to get started on that as you are. But like you, we must
    wait "until it's ready."

    TJ

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  • From Doug Laidlaw@2:250/1 to All on Sat Apr 18 06:42:10 2020
    On 8/4/20 6:09 am, William Unruh wrote:
    On 26/3/20 9:27 pm, Bit Twister wrote:
    On Thu, 26 Mar 2020 20:50:44 +1100, Daniel60 wrote:
    Having a bit more spare time on my hand (like large portions of the
    world), I thought I'd download the latest version of Mageia and see if I >>> can get it connecting to the Internet via my 3G USB Dongle (having read
    a couple of things in another thread here that gives me some new hope!!). >> Next release 8 will be ready when it is ready.:)

    The planned 9 months release cycle, chosen quite understandably because
    it was the gestation period for a new "baby," has proved impractical,
    but "When it is ready" is not a real alternative.

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  • From David W. Hodgins@2:250/1 to All on Sat Apr 18 15:03:42 2020
    On Sat, 18 Apr 2020 01:42:10 -0400, Doug Laidlaw <laidlaws@hotkey.net.au> wrote:

    The planned 9 months release cycle, chosen quite understandably because
    it was the gestation period for a new "baby," has proved impractical,
    but "When it is ready" is not a real alternative.

    It's the only real answer. Any answer other then that is just guesswork. In the
    past many releases had very large changes such as the addition of support for uefi systems that both delayed the release due to the amount of work involved, but also really pushed the teams to get the release out to support the new hardware before it's usage became common.

    The changes between Mageia 7 and current cauldron are minor. Creating, testing and documenting a new release is a lot of work, even if the changes are minor.

    At present, there are very few changes that really justify going through the work to build a new release, while one of the changes (deprecating python2)
    is still a work in progress that either requires dropping many packages or waiting for the individual projects producing those packages to migrate to python 3.

    We regularly get complaints that we don't release often enough, as well as complaints that we release too often from people who want to install and
    have maintained one release for the lifetime of their computer.

    Anyone who doesn't agree with the choices being made by the Mageia teams is free
    to join the team and try to convince the other members to change things.

    Regards, Dave Hodgins

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