Since some countries are turning into police states due to the Rona, maybe we need to use bbsing as an alternative communications method in addition to using ham radios.
MATTHEW MUNSON wrote to All <=-
Since some countries are turning into police states due to the Rona,
maybe we need to use bbsing as an alternative communications method in addition to using ham radios.
Since some countries are turning into police states due to the Rona, maybe we need to use
bbsing as an alternative communications method in addition to using ham radios.
Re: BBSing the alternative
By: MATTHEW MUNSON to All on Fri Sep 24 2021 10:53 pm
Since some countries are turning into police states due to the Rona, maybe we need to use bbsing as an alternative communications method in addition to using ham radios.
I've heard BBSes are fairly popular in China for that reason.
Nightfox
Since some countries are turning into police states due to the Rona,
maybe we need to use
bbsing as an alternative communications method in addition to using
ham radios.
they can take down our phone lines and take away internet access so we would get fucked pretty easy.
Re: BBSing the alternative
By: Nightfox to MATTHEW MUNSON on Sat Sep 25 2021 01:05 pm
Re: BBSing the alternative
By: MATTHEW MUNSON to All on Fri Sep 24 2021 10:53 pm
Since some countries are turning into police states due to the Rona, maybe we need to use bbsing as an alternative communications method addition to using ham radios.
I've heard BBSes are fairly popular in China for that reason.
Nightfox
i'm not sure if they are still popular. we just knew they were popular like years ago. maybe i will try to visit some and see how many people are connected.
Re: BBSing the alternative
By: MRO to MATTHEW MUNSON on Sun Sep 26 2021 09:34 pm
Since some countries are turning into police states due to the Rona,
maybe we need to use
bbsing as an alternative communications method in addition to using
ham radios.
they can take down our phone lines and take away internet access so we would get fucked pretty easy.
You can run a BBS with HAM Radio.
I've heard BBSes are fairly popular in China for that reason.
i'm not sure if they are still popular. we just knew they were popular like years ago. maybe i will try to visit some and see how many people are connected.
I don't know about China, but I have seen it mentioned than in South East Asia they have their own BBS ecosystem which is quite strong. In fact I found a list of Asian BBS somewhere. It seems they are very popular in Thailand.
You can run a BBS with HAM Radio.
i've heard of it. never saw it. never knew someone who pulled it off.
and i find ham radio a big turn off.
they can take down our phone lines and take away internet access so we would get fucked pretty easy.
You can run a BBS with HAM Radio.
Re: BBSing the alternative
By: Arelor to MRO on Mon Sep 27 2021 02:59:01
I've heard BBSes are fairly popular in China for that reason.
i'm not sure if they are still popular. we just knew they were popular like years ago. maybe i will try to visit some and see how many peop are connected.
I don't know about China, but I have seen it mentioned than in South East Asia they have their own BBS ecosystem which is quite strong. In fact I found a list of Asian BBS somewhere. It seems they are very popular in Thailand.
Let me know if you remember or find anything. I'm really curious about that. If nothing else, it would be wild to see ANSI art in their codepage, ha.
Re: BBSing the alternative
By: Arelor to MRO on Mon Sep 27 2021 02:59:01
I've heard BBSes are fairly popular in China for that reason.
i'm not sure if they are still popular. we just knew they were popular like years ago. maybe i will try to visit some and see how many peop are connected.
I don't know about China, but I have seen it mentioned than in South East Asia they have their own BBS ecosystem which is quite strong. In fact I found a list of Asian BBS somewhere. It seems they are very popular in Thailand.
Let me know if you remember or find anything. I'm really curious about that. If nothing else, it would be wild to see ANSI art in their codepage, ha.
You can run a BBS with HAM Radio.
But can people without a HAM license access them legally? I asked once and was told no.
Look at this. The PTT Bulletin Board System in Taiwan 1.5 million users (about 200 000 at peak hours) and even has its own Wikipedia page.
Telnet based.
"Since 2000, PTT has become the largest online forum in Taiwan due to its increasing number of users."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PTT_Bulletin_Board_System
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Re: BBSing the alternative
By: Ksource to Arelor on
Mon Sep 27 2021 07:33 am
Re: BBSing the alternative
By: Arelor to MRO on Mon Sep 27 2021 02:59:01
I've heard BBSes are fairly popular in China for that reason.
i'm not sure if they are still popular. we just knew they were popular like years ago. maybe i will try to visit some and see how many peop are connected.
I don't know about China, but I have seen it mentioned than in South East Asia they have their own BBS ecosystem which is quite strong. In fact I found a list of Asian BBS somewhere. It seems they are very popular in Thailand.
Let me know if you remember or find anything. I'm really curious about that. If nothing else, it would be wild to see ANSI art in their codepage, ha.
Look at this. The PTT Bulletin Board System in Taiwan 1.5 million users (about 200 000 at peak hours) and even has its own Wikipedia page.
Telnet based.
"Since 2000, PTT has become the largest online forum in Taiwan due to
its increasing number of users."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PTT_Bulletin_Board_System
Look at this. The PTT Bulletin Board System in Taiwan 1.5 million users (about 200 000 at peak hours) and even has its own Wikipedia page.
Telnet based.
"Since 2000, PTT has become the largest online forum in Taiwan due to its increasing number of users."
Really cool that it's so huge and influential and has lasted all this time.
But can people without a HAM license access them legally? I asked
once and was told no.
I don't think so, that would be a good question for Rob.
I've thought of the BBS is a good way of having a sort of "underground" network. I
tried this myself, a private, invite only BBS, SSH access only. You can move the B
pretty much anywhere quite easily which is good, in case one server gets disconnect
or shutdown.
I think there is potential here, but the real blocker is the difficulty in accessin
it for the average person.
But can people without a HAM license access them legally? I asked
once and was told no.
I don't think so, that would be a good question for Rob.
My dad is a HAM radio operator, and I've always heard it's customary to announce your HAM radio license so people know you're legally able to use HAM radio. If you're running a BBS or connectiong to a BBS over HAM radio, I'm not sure how that would be verified.
I know there are several people that run packet BBS not sure what freq's they use.
You could probably find out in the ham radio forum.
I know there are several people that run packet BBS not sure what
freq's they use.
You could probably find out in the ham radio forum.
what do you mean by several? how many?
i dont know any person in my entire life who visited a packet radio bbs
You can run a BBS with HAM Radio.
i've heard of it. never saw it. never knew someone who pulled it off.
and i find ham radio a big turn off.
i dont know any person in my entire life who visited a packet radio bbs
Here are a few I found.
hb1bbs.net
bbs.packetcity.com
bbs.lu1dbq.org:6300
n3hym.ddns.net:8010
packet.w4bfb.org:2333
Re: BBSing the alternative
By: MRO to Denn on Mon Sep 27 2021 09:02 am
You can run a BBS with HAM Radio.
i've heard of it. never saw it. never knew someone who pulled it off. and i find ham radio a big turn off.
Too many rules? :)
i dont know any person in my entire life who visited a packet
radio bbs
Here are a few I found.
hb1bbs.net
bbs.packetcity.com
bbs.lu1dbq.org:6300
n3hym.ddns.net:8010
packet.w4bfb.org:2333
oh great. these are even more useless than a regular bbs.
and i'm not using packet radio to call it.
hb1bbs.netoh great. these are even more useless than a regular bbs.
and i'm not using packet radio to call it.
Re: BBSing the alternative
By: MRO to Denn on Wed Sep 29 2021 09:24 pm
hb1bbs.netoh great. these are even more useless than a regular bbs.
and i'm not using packet radio to call it.
I just tried hb1bbs.net and you can telnet in.
hb1bbs.net
oh great. these are even more useless than a regular bbs.
and i'm not using packet radio to call it.
I just tried hb1bbs.net and you can telnet in.
i've heard of it. never saw it. never knew someone who pulled it
off. and i find ham radio a big turn off.
Too many rules? :)
i just dont have an interest in talking to a bunch of neckbeards who live with their parents.
also they removed a lot of the rules. you dont even need to know morse code now. it's not really an achievement like it used to be. ---
hb1bbs.netoh great. these are even more useless than a regular bbs.
and i'm not using packet radio to call it.
I just tried hb1bbs.net and you can telnet in.
Er, I think you're confusing BBSes and The Internet in general with Ham Radio. Ham Radio is a bunch of old men with too much time and money on their hands. They sit and talk about their recent colonoscopy, all their friends that have died from cancer, and Jesus. oh man, do they love to talk about Jesus. Some even talk about politics too, but that's generally considered
"bad form", even though most every one of them has the same political leanings (The same as you, MRO!)
questiosn about working digital modes, and if you get your Extra class license, you basically need a couple semesters of electriconic engineering and/or RF engineering to understand the questions you're being asked.
Er, I think you're confusing BBSes and The Internet in general with
Ham Radio. Ham Radio is a bunch of old men with too much time and
money on their hands. They sit and talk about their recent
colonoscopy, all their friends that have died from cancer, and Jesus.
oh man, do they love to talk about Jesus. Some even talk about
politics too, but that's generally considered
that's exactly what i was expecting. but i do know a lot of poor people that are hams
"bad form", even though most every one of them has the same political
leanings (The same as you, MRO!)
you dont know my political beliefs
questiosn about working digital modes, and if you get your Extra class
license, you basically need a couple semesters of electriconic
engineering and/or RF engineering to understand the questions you're
being asked.
i doubt that.
Er, I think you're confusing BBSes and The Internet in general with Ham Radio. Ham Radio is a bunch of old men with too much time and money on their hands. They sit and talk about their recent colonoscopy, all their friends that have died from cancer, and Jesus. oh man, do they love to talk about Jesus. Some even talk about politics too, but that's generally considered
questiosn about working digital modes, and if you get your Extra class license, you basically need a couple semesters of electriconic engineering and/or RF engineering to understand the questions you're being asked.
license, you basically need a couple semesters of electriconic
engineering and/or RF engineering to understand the questions you're
being asked.
i doubt that.
I'm not saying you can't answer the questions on the exam without it, but to know the theory behind them, that level of study/knowledge is necessary. (I say this as someone who's currently working his way through the material, I can pick the right answer, but I couldn't tell you why it was the right answer for some of them)
Somebody around here posted about a BBS gateway in i2p, which I find to be way cool.
The only drawback is it was http based, probably because, in the i2p world, http is a
well supported protocol.
I know of some BBS attempts at offering telnet access via darknets. Sadly, darknet
I know of some BBS attempts at offering telnet access via darknets. Sadly, darknet
Yeah it seems it would't be that tough technically to allow access over Tor or something. The question is if anyone would use it.
On the one hand, it gives it a cool underground off-the-grid feel. On the other hand, it's very not-retro.
Here in Connecticut, the average age of a ham is 70!.. although with the recent pandemic more young folk got licensed as it was something to do inside. I don't do HF even though I'm licensed for it I tend to stick to VHF/UHF and moreso on packet (the original digital mode). I did have a few software packages available for packet which two of them are part of both Fedora and Debian (and the offspring distros) repositories however there's issues with the ax.25 kernel protocol stack that most guys think it's my software causing the issues (UGH!) so I've pulled them from sourceforge for now. We did supply fixes but they for whatever reason rejected the patches even though we've proven for years they work. Bad politics are everywhere.
The newer digital modes I tend to disagree with. The vendors have created what I call a "tower of babel" effect since they don't talk with one another - and hams are supposed to be all about communicating. Doesn't make sense. I do have a fusion HT but for now it just sits in a box. Analog is still more commonly used. Seems only those in certain cliques use it.
i have known some dumb motherfuckers [some of them who still live with their parents] in my area who are ham operators.
i'm not sure if they cheated or if they're like me and can read up on something before a test and pass it with a high grade.
i looked up the practice test on hamexam.org and if the questions are like THIS, anybody can pretty much pass the test with reading notes beforehand.
i'm not sure if they are still popular. we just knew they were popular like >> years ago. maybe i will try to visit some and see how many people are
connected.
I don't know about China, but I have seen it mentioned than in South East Asia
they have their own BBS ecosystem which is quite strong. In fact I found a list
of Asian BBS somewhere. It seems they are very popular in Thailand.
I don't know about China, but I have seen it mentioned than in South East
Asia they have their own BBS ecosystem which is quite strong. In fact I
found a list of Asian BBS somewhere. It seems they are very popular in
Thailand.
Let me know if you remember or find anything. I'm really curious about that. If nothing else, it would be wild to see ANSI art in their codepage, ha.
You can run a BBS with HAM Radio.
But can people without a HAM license access them legally? I asked
once and was told no.
My dad is a HAM radio operator, and I've always heard it's customary
to announce your HAM radio license so people know you're legally able
to use HAM radio. If you're running a BBS or connectiong to a BBS
over HAM radio, I'm not sure how that would be verified.
DaiTengu wrote to Brian Rogers <=-
Yeah, I got my license just over a year ago, as it was something to do while spending so much time at home.
The politics involved with all the distros are... frustrating. It's
been a toxic culture for years. It's been getting better lately, but
it's still not great.
I have both a D-Star radio and a Fusion HT. There's nothing in my area that does D-Star. I did build a pi-star though, so I can do some cross-mode digital stuff, but it's such a giant pain in the ass that I rarely mess with it. In fact, one of the antenna connectors broke off
my pi-star hat a month or so ago after I had the bright idea to move
the thing, and I just haven't gotten around to soldering it back on.
I do spend a lot of time using HF digital modes, like FT8 and PSK31 to
a lesser extent. I have a lot of fun with FT8/FT4.
Hello DaiTengu;
If I could set up an HF antenna, I'd have my node also on Net105... 20 meters. That's a bit of fun. Many stations there.
73
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