I thought BBC and ITV normally took turns to choose which matches to
show in the early stages.

I was wondering about this a few days ago because I noticed nearly all
the matches were on BBC so thought perhaps ITV were only interested in
the better known teams.

But just saw that tomorrow all four matches seem to be on BBC and ITV at
the same time.

Is there a reason for this?

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On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 16:37:46 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

I thought BBC and ITV normally took turns to choose which matches to
show in the early stages.

I was wondering about this a few days ago because I noticed nearly all
the matches were on BBC so thought perhaps ITV were only interested in
the better known teams.

But just saw that tomorrow all four matches seem to be on BBC and ITV at
the same time.

Is there a reason for this?

Also, there was one night where there were games on BBC One and BBC
Two. I would have assumed one would be on BBC and one on ITV/STV.

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Bloody mindedness I'd say.
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I thought BBC and ITV normally took turns to choose which matches to show
in the early stages.

I was wondering about this a few days ago because I noticed nearly all the matches were on BBC so thought perhaps ITV were only interested in the
better known teams.

But just saw that tomorrow all four matches seem to be on BBC and ITV at
the same time.

Is there a reason for this?

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On 02/12/2022 16:37, MB wrote:

I thought BBC and ITV normally took turns to choose which matches to
show in the early stages.

I was wondering about this a few days ago because I noticed nearly all
the matches were on BBC so thought perhaps ITV were only interested in
the better known teams.

But just saw that tomorrow all four matches seem to be on BBC and ITV at
the same time.

Where did you see that? I ask as EPG here shows

BBC1 14:30 Netherlands v USA
BBC1 18:20 Argentina v Australia

which according to FIFA are the only 2 matches tomorrow.

Is there a reason for this?

Indeed.

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On 02/12/2022 17:04, Scott wrote:

On Fri, 2 Dec 2022 16:37:46 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

I thought BBC and ITV normally took turns to choose which matches to
show in the early stages.

I was wondering about this a few days ago because I noticed nearly all
the matches were on BBC so thought perhaps ITV were only interested in
the better known teams.

But just saw that tomorrow all four matches seem to be on BBC and ITV at
the same time.

Is there a reason for this?

Also, there was one night where there were games on BBC One and BBC
Two. I would have assumed one would be on BBC and one on ITV/STV.

The final group stage matches are all held at the same time, (to avoid
the teams being influenced by the result of the other)

BBC and ITV decide between them which pair of matches they will show, so
on those occasions you have the matches on BBC 1 and 2 at the same time,
or ITV 1 and ITV 4 at the same time.  Not a BBC 1/ITV 1 combo.

I don't think any match other than the final has been, or will be shown simultaneously by BBC and ITV.

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On Fri 02/12/2022 17:34, Robin wrote:

On 02/12/2022 16:37, MB wrote:

I thought BBC and ITV normally took turns to choose which matches to
show in the early stages.

I was wondering about this a few days ago because I noticed nearly all
the matches were on BBC so thought perhaps ITV were only interested in
the better known teams.

But just saw that tomorrow all four matches seem to be on BBC and ITV
at the same time.

Where did you see that?  I ask as EPG here shows

BBC1    14:30    Netherlands v USA
BBC1     18:20    Argentina v Australia

which according to FIFA are the only 2 matches tomorrow.

Is there a reason for this?

Indeed.

The four matches per day have been the final games in the league stages.

From here on it is knockout of which there will only be 8 games (a.k.a.
Round of 16) so one afternoon and one evening for four days starting
Saturday.

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On 02/12/2022 19:43, Woody wrote:

On Fri 02/12/2022 17:34, Robin wrote:

On 02/12/2022 16:37, MB wrote:

I thought BBC and ITV normally took turns to choose which matches to
show in the early stages.

I was wondering about this a few days ago because I noticed nearly
all the matches were on BBC so thought perhaps ITV were only
interested in the better known teams.

But just saw that tomorrow all four matches seem to be on BBC and ITV
at the same time.

Where did you see that?  I ask as EPG here shows

BBC1    14:30    Netherlands v USA
BBC1     18:20    Argentina v Australia

which according to FIFA are the only 2 matches tomorrow.

Is there a reason for this?

Indeed.

The four matches per day have been the final games in the league stages.

From here on it is knockout of which there will only be 8 games (a.k.a. Round of 16) so one afternoon and one evening for four days starting Saturday.

Yes. But the Group [not "league", ed.] games end today. And, as Mark
has already pointed out, when there were 4 matches on the same day there
was not simultaneous coverage by BBC and ITV. E.g. currently ITV has
Cameroon v Brazil and ITV4 Serbia v Switzerland. Earlier BBC1 had Korea
v Portugal and BBC2 Ghana v Uruguay. But AFAIK there was no "at the
same time" football across all 4 channels.
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On 02/12/2022 18:00, Mark Carver wrote:

I don't think any match other than the final has been, or will be shown simultaneously by BBC and ITV.

SPORT: MOTD Live: FIFA World Cup 2022
On: BBC One Scotland HD
Date: Saturday 3rd December 2022 (starting tomorrow afternoon)
Time: 14:30 to 17:25 (2 hours and 55 minutes long)

Netherlands v USA.
Netherlands v USA (Kick-off 3.00pm). All the action from the opening
last-16 match, which comes from Khalifa International Stadium in Doha,
Qatar. Despite perhaps not finding their best form yet, the Dutch topped
Group A after 2-0 wins against Senegal and Qatar either side of a 1-1
draw with Ecuador. The Americans were also undefeated as they finished
second in Group B, drawing with Wales and England before recording a 1-0
win over Iran. This is the first competitive meeting between the teams,
but USA recorded their first friendly win other this afternoon's
opponents in five attempts when they last faced each other in 2015,
coming back from 3-1 down to prevail 4-3.
(High Definition, Subtitles, Widescreen, Live) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.getdigiguide.tv/?p=1&r=7346

Copyright (c) GipsyMedia Limited.

SPORT: FIFA World Cup 2022
On: STV (03)
Date: Saturday 3rd December 2022 (starting tomorrow afternoon)
Time: 14:00 to 17:15 (3 hours and 15 minutes long)

Netherlands v USA.
Netherlands v USA (Kick-off 3.00pm). All the action from the opening
last-16 match, which comes from Khalifa International Stadium in Doha,
Qatar. Despite perhaps not finding their best form yet, the Dutch topped
Group A after 2-0 wins against Senegal and Qatar either side of a 1-1
draw with Ecuador. The Americans were also undefeated as they finished
second in Group B, drawing with Wales and England before recording a 1-0
win over Iran. This is the first competitive meeting between the teams,
but USA recorded their first friendly win other this afternoon's
opponents in five attempts when they last faced each other in 2015,
coming back from 3-1 down to prevail 4-3.
(Subtitles, Widescreen, Live) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.getdigiguide.tv/?p=1&r=7346

Copyright (c) GipsyMedia Limited.


SPORT: MOTD Live: FIFA World Cup 2022
On: BBC One Scotland HD
Date: Saturday 3rd December 2022 (starting tomorrow evening)
Time: 18:20 to 21:15 (2 hours and 55 minutes long)

Argentina v Australia.
Argentina v Australia (Kick-off 7.00pm). Coverage of the second last-16 contest, which comes from Ahmad Bin Ali Stadium in Al Rayyan, Qatar. Argentina's campaign began with an embrassing and shock defeat to Saudi
Arabia, but they have since turned around their fortunes with
consecutive 2-0 victories against Mexico and Poland to top Group C. They
face surprise opponents in the shape of Australia, who also recovered
from losing their opening fixture, against France, to secore 1-0 wins
against Tunisia and Denmark to reach the last 16.
(High Definition, Subtitles, Widescreen, Live) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.getdigiguide.tv/?p=1&r=7346

Copyright (c) GipsyMedia Limited.

SPORT: FIFA World Cup 2022
On: STV (03)
Date: Saturday 3rd December 2022 (starting tomorrow evening)
Time: 18:15 to 21:15 (3 hours long)

Argentina v Australia.
Argentina v Australia (Kick-off 7.00pm). Coverage of the second last-16 contest, which comes from Ahmad Bin Ali Stadium in Al Rayyan, Qatar. Argentina's campaign began with an embrassing and shock defeat to Saudi
Arabia, but they have since turned around their fortunes with
consecutive 2-0 victories against Mexico and Poland to top Group C. They
face surprise opponents in the shape of Australia, who also recovered
from losing their opening fixture, against France, to secore 1-0 wins
against Tunisia and Denmark to reach the last 16.
(Subtitles, Widescreen, Live) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Excerpt taken from DigiGuide - the world's best TV guide available from http://www.getdigiguide.tv/?p=1&r=7346

Copyright (c) GipsyMedia Limited.

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On 02/12/2022 20:50, MB wrote:

SPORT: MOTD Live: FIFA World Cup 2022
On: BBC One Scotland HD
Date: Saturday 3rd December 2022 (starting tomorrow afternoon)
Time: 14:30 to 17:25 (2 hours and 55 minutes long)

EPG has updated, ITV has Downton Abbey then a film whilst BBC1 carries
the football.

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On 02/12/2022 16:37, MB wrote:

I thought BBC and ITV normally took turns to choose which matches to
show in the early stages.

Anyway, here's the details of the splits for the next batch of matches.
Nothing on BBC and ITV at the same time (A gazlizion other channels not
showing football are available anyway)

https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/bbc-itv-split-decided-for-next-world-cup-round

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On Friday, 2 December 2022 at 16:37:47 UTC, MB wrote:

I thought BBC and ITV normally took turns to choose which matches to
show in the early stages.

I was wondering about this a few days ago because I noticed nearly all
the matches were on BBC so thought perhaps ITV were only interested in
the better known teams.

But just saw that tomorrow all four matches seem to be on BBC and ITV at
the same time.

Is there a reason for this?

I am not sure how they did it, but there was some sort of lottery for the realy games.

The final is on BBC and ITV.

The BBC is better because there are no ad's and because you can easily get the video in 4k via BBC iPlayer.

Not yet discovered if or how you can do this with ITV and their Full HD video appeared over-saturated.

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On Sun, 4 Dec 2022 15:59:32 +0000, Mark Carver
<mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:

On 02/12/2022 16:37, MB wrote:

I thought BBC and ITV normally took turns to choose which matches to
show in the early stages.

Anyway, here's the details of the splits for the next batch of matches. >Nothing on BBC and ITV at the same time (A gazlizion other channels not >showing football are available anyway)

https://rxtvinfo.com/2022/bbc-itv-split-decided-for-next-world-cup-round

How does the Chinese state (reportedly) censor TV images so crowds
cannot be seen without facemasks? Do they get access to individual
cameras or do they have to accept the 'official' broadcast from FIFA?
I believe there is a time delay to allow them to think about it.

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On 05/12/2022 12:20, R. Mark Clayton wrote:

On Friday, 2 December 2022 at 16:37:47 UTC, MB wrote:

I thought BBC and ITV normally took turns to choose which matches to
show in the early stages.

I was wondering about this a few days ago because I noticed nearly all
the matches were on BBC so thought perhaps ITV were only interested in
the better known teams.

But just saw that tomorrow all four matches seem to be on BBC and ITV at
the same time.

Is there a reason for this?

I am not sure how they did it, but there was some sort of lottery for the realy games.

The final is on BBC and ITV.

The BBC is better because there are no ad's and because you can easily get the video in 4k via BBC iPlayer.

Not yet discovered if or how you can do this with ITV and their Full HD video appeared over-saturated.

ITVX doesn't offer 4K; they said it might in the future.

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On 05/12/2022 13:03, Scott wrote:

How does the Chinese state (reportedly) censor TV images so crowds
cannot be seen without facemasks? Do they get access to individual
cameras or do they have to accept the 'official' broadcast from FIFA?
I believe there is a time delay to allow them to think about it.

Fact Check
Fact Check: Did China Blur Out World Cup Crowds to Hide Maskless Fans?

<https://www.newsweek.com/fact-check-did-china-blur-out-world-cup-crowds-hide-maskless-fans-1762414>

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