On Friday I came the closest I've ever been to being scammed.
I had an email from a friend (lets call him George) telling me he was
having a problem with Amazon rejecting his credit card. The email
told me that "George" had a friend with liver cancer who couldn't
work and George wanted to send her a substantial birthday gift as it
may be her last.
The emails went back and forth.
Eventually, after it seemed like I had to drag it out of him, he
wanted me to send a £250 gift e-token to an email address and he
would return my money tomorrow. At that point I had every intention
of doing what my "friend" wanted me to do to help the awful situation.
Now, I'm quite sure you guys are thinking "scam", partly of course
because I've already said it was and partly because it wasn't your
"friend". For me, I'm thinking about the sob story my mate has just
told me and that was foremost in my mind - sympathy. This wasn't
someone in Africa needing funds to release millions this was a close
mate.
But as more details emerged like the e-token email address (c9rlm@outlook.com), I started to notice that none of the
conversation had anything personal in it. No mention of his visit
here the day before and no humorous banter. A little odd.
I emailed back and asked him to phone me as I wanted to be sure this
wasn't a scam. He didn't phone me back but replied --
Okay that's not a problem, here is my mobile 07361620571.
Thanks,
George
At that point I knew it was a scam, "George" knew my land line and
mobile numbers.
I didn't reply, I did text "George".
"George" told me he'd had a nightmare of a day, an elderly customer
of his computer support business had been close to getting scammed. I
then added to his nightmare with my tale.
I think he's spent the entire weekend looking for a trojan on all his
gear.
The name George used to protect the guilty. The phone number and
email address are what the scammer supplied.
Be warned.
Bob.
Now, I'm quite sure you guys are thinking "scam"
But as more details emerged like the e-token email address (c9rlm@outlook.com), I started to notice that none of the
conversation had anything personal in it. No mention of his visit
here the day before and no humorous banter. A little od
On Friday I came the closest I've ever been to being scammed.
I had an email from a friend (lets call him George) telling me he was
having a problem with Amazon rejecting his credit card. The email
told me that "George" had a friend with liver cancer who couldn't
work and George wanted to send her a substantial birthday gift as it
may be her last.
The emails went back and forth.
Eventually, after it seemed like I had to drag it out of him, he
wanted me to send a £250 gift e-token to an email address and he
would return my money tomorrow. At that point I had every intention
of doing what my "friend" wanted me to do to help the awful situation.
Now, I'm quite sure you guys are thinking "scam",
partly of course
because I've already said it was and partly because it wasn't your
"friend". For me, I'm thinking about the sob story my mate has just
told me and that was foremost in my mind - sympathy. This wasn't
someone in Africa needing funds to release millions this was a close
mate.
But as more details emerged like the e-token email address (c9rlm@outlook.com), I started to notice that none of the
conversation had anything personal in it. No mention of his visit
here the day before and no humorous banter. A little odd.
I emailed back and asked him to phone me as I wanted to be sure this
wasn't a scam. He didn't phone me back but replied --
Okay that's not a problem, here is my mobile 07361620571.
Thanks,
George
At that point I knew it was a scam, "George" knew my land line and
mobile numbers.
I didn't reply, I did text "George".
"George" told me he'd had a nightmare of a day, an elderly customer
of his computer support business had been close to getting scammed. I
then added to his nightmare with my tale.
I think he's spent the entire weekend looking for a trojan on all his
gear.
The name George used to protect the guilty. The phone number and
email address are what the scammer supplied.
Be warned.
Bob.
On Friday I came the closest I've ever been to being scammed.
I had an email from a friend (lets call him George) telling me he was
having a problem with Amazon rejecting his credit card. The email
told me that "George" had a friend with liver cancer who couldn't
work and George wanted to send her a substantial birthday gift as it
may be her last.
The emails went back and forth.
Eventually, after it seemed like I had to drag it out of him, he
wanted me to send a £250 gift e-token to an email address and he
would return my money tomorrow. At that point I had every intention
of doing what my "friend" wanted me to do to help the awful situation.
Now, I'm quite sure you guys are thinking "scam", partly of course
because I've already said it was and partly because it wasn't your
"friend". For me, I'm thinking about the sob story my mate has just
told me and that was foremost in my mind - sympathy. This wasn't
someone in Africa needing funds to release millions this was a close
mate.
But as more details emerged like the e-token email address (c9rlm@outlook.com), I started to notice that none of the
conversation had anything personal in it. No mention of his visit
here the day before and no humorous banter. A little odd.
I emailed back and asked him to phone me as I wanted to be sure this
wasn't a scam. He didn't phone me back but replied --
Okay that's not a problem, here is my mobile 07361620571.
Thanks,
George
At that point I knew it was a scam, "George" knew my land line and
mobile numbers.
I didn't reply, I did text "George".
"George" told me he'd had a nightmare of a day, an elderly customer
of his computer support business had been close to getting scammed. I
then added to his nightmare with my tale.
I think he's spent the entire weekend looking for a trojan on all his
gear.
The name George used to protect the guilty. The phone number and
email address are what the scammer supplied.
Be warned.
Bob.
In article <5a4dd9edc2bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>,
Bob Latham says...
Now, I'm quite sure you guys are thinking "scam"
This particular type has been featured a couple of times on BBC's
"Dirty Rotten Scammers"
Yes, I see these sort of things a lot. I don't really think they need access to any machine, they can deduce who people are by cross referencing data supposedly analysed and things which have been online already. I'm sure its automated and the data then presented to scammers.
On 27/11/2022 13:02, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes, I see these sort of things a lot. I don't really think they
need access to any machine, they can deduce who people are by
cross referencing data supposedly analysed and things which have
been online already. I'm sure its automated and the data then
presented to scammers.
Watch the "The Secret Genius of Modern Life" programme about bank
cards.
She visited one very high security place, It was mentioned
that they have one technique where they run through all the
combination of account numbers, credit card numbers, PIN, CCV etc.
It showed a Dark Web displaying these for sale.
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 09:57:24 +0000 (GMT)
Bob Latham <b...@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
On Friday I came the closest I've ever been to being scammed.
I had an email from a friend (lets call him George) telling me he was having a problem with Amazon rejecting his credit card. The email
told me that "George" had a friend with liver cancer who couldn't
work and George wanted to send her a substantial birthday gift as it
may be her last.
The emails went back and forth.
Eventually, after it seemed like I had to drag it out of him, he
wanted me to send a £250 gift e-token to an email address and he
would return my money tomorrow. At that point I had every intention
of doing what my "friend" wanted me to do to help the awful situation.
Now, I'm quite sure you guys are thinking "scam", partly of course
because I've already said it was and partly because it wasn't your "friend". For me, I'm thinking about the sob story my mate has just
told me and that was foremost in my mind - sympathy. This wasn't
someone in Africa needing funds to release millions this was a close
mate.
But as more details emerged like the e-token email address (c9...@outlook.com), I started to notice that none of the
conversation had anything personal in it. No mention of his visit
here the day before and no humorous banter. A little odd.
I emailed back and asked him to phone me as I wanted to be sure this wasn't a scam. He didn't phone me back but replied --
Okay that's not a problem, here is my mobile 07361620571.
Thanks,
George
At that point I knew it was a scam, "George" knew my land line and
mobile numbers.
I didn't reply, I did text "George".
"George" told me he'd had a nightmare of a day, an elderly customer
of his computer support business had been close to getting scammed. I
then added to his nightmare with my tale.
I think he's spent the entire weekend looking for a trojan on all his gear.
The name George used to protect the guilty. The phone number and
email address are what the scammer supplied.
Be warned.
Bob.
Yep, I had a similar one a couple of years ago, asking me to buy some
store gift cards and scan the numbers off the back and send them to
her so she could give her niece a present. I did not do so.
--
Davey.
On 27/11/2022 13:02, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes, I see these sort of things a lot. I don't really think they need
access
to any machine, they can deduce who people are by cross referencing data
supposedly analysed and things which have been online already. I'm sure
its
automated and the data then presented to scammers.
Watch the "The Secret Genius of Modern Life" programme about bank cards.
She visited one very high security place, It was mentioned that they have
one technique where they run through all the combination of account
numbers, credit card numbers, PIN, CCV etc. It showed a Dark Web
displaying these for sale.
In article <tm09b8$1nduk$2@dont-email.me>,
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 27/11/2022 13:02, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes, I see these sort of things a lot. I don't really think they
need access to any machine, they can deduce who people are by
cross referencing data supposedly analysed and things which have
been online already. I'm sure its automated and the data then
presented to scammers.
Watch the "The Secret Genius of Modern Life" programme about bank
cards.
She visited one very high security place, It was mentioned
that they have one technique where they run through all the
combination of account numbers, credit card numbers, PIN, CCV etc.
It showed a Dark Web displaying these for sale.
In this particular case my mate says he's now found the trojan on his
mac laptop.
Bob.
That is always the big clue, no personal detail - they often quote a
login and password from one that has been hacked from big companies and available online probably.
I remember a friend telling me about "Microsoft" ringing him up and
asking him to turn on his PC. It is immediately laughable Microsoft
would ever contact a user! But he asked "which computer, I have six",
that completely floored them.
On Friday I came the closest I've ever been to being scammed.
I had an email from a friend (lets call him George) telling me he was
having a problem with Amazon rejecting his credit card. The email told
me that "George" had a friend with liver cancer who couldn't work and
George wanted to send her a substantial birthday gift as it may be her
last.
At that point I knew it was a scam, "George" knew my land line and
mobile numbers.
I didn't reply, I did text "George".
"George" told me he'd had a nightmare of a day, an elderly customer of
his computer support business had been close to getting scammed. I then
added to his nightmare with my tale.
I think he's spent the entire weekend looking for a trojan on all his
gear.
The name George used to protect the guilty. The phone number and email address are what the scammer supplied.
Be warned.
In article <5a4dd9edc2bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
On Friday I came the closest I've ever been to being scammed.
I had an email from a friend (lets call him George) telling me he was having a problem with Amazon rejecting his credit card. The email told
me that "George" had a friend with liver cancer who couldn't work and George wanted to send her a substantial birthday gift as it may be her last.
(snip)
At that point I knew it was a scam, "George" knew my land line and
mobile numbers.
I didn't reply, I did text "George".
"George" told me he'd had a nightmare of a day, an elderly customer of
his computer support business had been close to getting scammed. I then added to his nightmare with my tale.
I think he's spent the entire weekend looking for a trojan on all his
gear.
The name George used to protect the guilty. The phone number and email address are what the scammer supplied.
Be warned.
FWIW My reaction in the first instance would be to phone my friend using their telephone number already known to me.
The scam telephone calls I've had recently all warn me of "recent
suspiscious activity on my credit card". I let their machine talk to my answerphone. Sounded dodgy from the first example. But over a few days
got *identical* messages with the same sums, etc, all for "recent". i.e. clones pretending to have "just happened".
In article <5a4dd9edc2bob@sick-of-spam.invalid>, Bob Latham <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:
At that point I knew it was a scam, "George" knew my land line
and mobile numbers.
I didn't reply, I did text "George".
FWIW My reaction in the first instance would be to phone my friend
using their telephone number already known to me.
The scam telephone calls I've had recently all warn me of "recent
suspiscious activity on my credit card". I let their machine talk
to my answerphone. Sounded dodgy from the first example. But over a
few days got *identical* messages with the same sums, etc, all for
"recent". i.e. clones pretending to have "just happened".
I get them from "Your bank's fraud department"
In article <tlvlli$1lu2q$1@dont-email.me>, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
That is always the big clue, no personal detail - they often quote a
login and password from one that has been hacked from big companies and
available online probably.
I remember a friend telling me about "Microsoft" ringing him up and
asking him to turn on his PC. It is immediately laughable Microsoft
would ever contact a user! But he asked "which computer, I have six",
that completely floored them.
In my case I'd have added: "And none of them run Windows because I think
it's crap". 8-]
Jim
At least I believe they can no longer hold the line to make you think
you have rung the bank when you are actually still speaking to them.
On 29/11/2022 11:09, MB wrote:
At least I believe they can no longer hold the line to make you think
you have rung the bank when you are actually still speaking to them.
I believe there is still a small time window for this, but it has been greatly reduced. Some out of the way exchanges may not implement the shortened timeout.
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