• ITV2/3 HD

    From Phil@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 17 11:23:23 2022
    Can anyone with a Freesat system confirm there are no programmes shown
    in the EPG on ITV2 HD and ITV3 HD after 06:00 on Monday 21st?

    Or is it a problem at my end?

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    Liverpool, UK

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Phil on Thu Nov 17 14:35:02 2022
    "Phil" <phil@no.spam.ta> wrote in message
    news:tl55jb$2kr1p$1@dont-email.me...
    Can anyone with a Freesat system confirm there are no programmes shown in
    the EPG on ITV2 HD and ITV3 HD after 06:00 on Monday 21st?

    Or is it a problem at my end?

    No, it's the same for me: the last programme that I see on ITV3 HD is Mon 21 Nov 0540-0600 "Unwind with ITV". That's using TVHeadend software on a
    Raspberry Pi, via a DVB-T2 tuner: using the over-the-air EPG. Corresponding programmes on ITV3 (non HD) continue beyond that until Thursday 24 Nov at
    2200.

    I might reconfigure TV Headend to use the ITV3 EPG for ITV3 HD as well. Or maybe nearer to the cut-off date, ITV3 HD might sort out their EPG.

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  • From Phil@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 17 14:36:13 2022
    On 17/11/2022 14:35, NY wrote:
    "Phil" <phil@no.spam.ta> wrote in message news:tl55jb$2kr1p$1@dont-email.me...
    Can anyone with a Freesat system confirm there are no programmes shown
    in the EPG on ITV2 HD and ITV3 HD after 06:00 on Monday 21st?

    Or is it a problem at my end?

    No, it's the same for me: the last programme that I see on ITV3 HD is
    Mon 21 Nov 0540-0600 "Unwind with ITV". That's using TVHeadend software
    on a Raspberry Pi, via a DVB-T2 tuner: using the over-the-air EPG. Corresponding programmes on ITV3 (non HD) continue beyond that until
    Thursday 24 Nov at 2200.

    I might reconfigure TV Headend to use the ITV3 EPG for ITV3 HD as well.
    Or maybe nearer to the cut-off date, ITV3 HD might sort out their EPG.

    Thanks for the confirmation.

    --
    Phil
    Liverpool, UK

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  • From Unsteadyken@21:1/5 to All on Thu Nov 17 16:24:14 2022
    In article <tl55jb$2kr1p$1@dont-email.me>,

    Phil says...

    Can anyone with a Freesat system confirm there are no programmes shown
    in the EPG on ITV2 HD and ITV3 HD after 06:00 on Monday 21st?

    Or is it a problem at my end?


    Both channels are showing EPG info up to the 24th on my Manhattan
    Freesat box.

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  • From PeterC@21:1/5 to Unsteadyken on Thu Nov 17 17:43:30 2022
    On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 16:24:14 -0000, Unsteadyken wrote:

    In article <tl55jb$2kr1p$1@dont-email.me>,

    Phil says...

    Can anyone with a Freesat system confirm there are no programmes shown
    in the EPG on ITV2 HD and ITV3 HD after 06:00 on Monday 21st?

    Or is it a problem at my end?


    Both channels are showing EPG info up to the 24th on my Manhattan
    Freesat box.

    I do wish that Manhattan would make a Freesat bos to the same level as the
    T3R Freeview one. Surely it's just the tuning side - or are there costs with having FS EPG?
    --
    Peter.
    The gods will stay away
    whilst religions hold sway

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to PeterC on Thu Nov 17 18:23:36 2022
    On 17/11/2022 17:43, PeterC wrote:
    On Thu, 17 Nov 2022 16:24:14 -0000, Unsteadyken wrote:

    In article <tl55jb$2kr1p$1@dont-email.me>,

    Phil says...

    Can anyone with a Freesat system confirm there are no programmes shown
    in the EPG on ITV2 HD and ITV3 HD after 06:00 on Monday 21st?

    Or is it a problem at my end?


    Both channels are showing EPG info up to the 24th on my Manhattan
    Freesat box.

    I do wish that Manhattan would make a Freesat bos to the same level as the T3R Freeview one. Surely it's just the tuning side - or are there costs with having FS EPG?

    I believe there is a license fee to pay if you want to make boxes with
    the Freesat name and logo on them. I guess there may also be a fee for access/use of the algorithm needed to receive the Freesat EPG.

    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Brian Gregory on Fri Nov 18 09:22:54 2022
    "Brian Gregory" <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote in message news:jtnch8F2l0kU1@mid.individual.net...
    I believe there is a license fee to pay if you want to make boxes with the Freesat name and logo on them. I guess there may also be a fee for
    access/use of the algorithm needed to receive the Freesat EPG.

    Is there anything special about the ability to receive the EPG for SD
    channels? I know that the EPG for HD channels is lightly encrypted such that VLC for example cannot reproduce "clean" EPG data (only a lot of funny characters with bits of clear text amongst them). I'm not sure whether it is
    HD channels in the EPG stream for *any* multiplex, or whether it is the
    whole EPG (SD and HD) within a T2 ("HD") multiplex which is encrypted.


    Incidentally, when I looked just now, ITV3 HD had EPG listings up to Friday
    25 Nov - so the normal 7 days.

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  • From R. Mark Clayton@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 18 02:59:39 2022
    On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 09:22:55 UTC, NY wrote:
    "Brian Gregory" <void-invalid...@email.invalid> wrote in message news:jtnch8...@mid.individual.net...
    I believe there is a license fee to pay if you want to make boxes with the Freesat name and logo on them. I guess there may also be a fee for access/use of the algorithm needed to receive the Freesat EPG.

    Indeed, hence loads of TV's with DVB-S2 by default now but no Freesat.

    Is there anything special about the ability to receive the EPG for SD channels? I know that the EPG for HD channels is lightly encrypted such that VLC for example cannot reproduce "clean" EPG data (only a lot of funny characters with bits of clear text amongst them). I'm not sure whether it is HD channels in the EPG stream for *any* multiplex, or whether it is the
    whole EPG (SD and HD) within a T2 ("HD") multiplex which is encrypted.


    Incidentally, when I looked just now, ITV3 HD had EPG listings up to Friday 25 Nov - so the normal 7 days.

    Does this matter? - you can view the full schedule for SD ITV1/2/3/4 on Freeview's EPG and then select the periods you want on satellite.

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  • From Phil@21:1/5 to Phil on Fri Nov 18 11:18:31 2022
    On 17/11/2022 14:36, Phil wrote:
    On 17/11/2022 14:35, NY wrote:
    "Phil" <phil@no.spam.ta> wrote in message
    news:tl55jb$2kr1p$1@dont-email.me...
    Can anyone with a Freesat system confirm there are no programmes
    shown in the EPG on ITV2 HD and ITV3 HD after 06:00 on Monday 21st?

    Or is it a problem at my end?

    No, it's the same for me: the last programme that I see on ITV3 HD is
    Mon 21 Nov 0540-0600 "Unwind with ITV". That's using TVHeadend
    software on a Raspberry Pi, via a DVB-T2 tuner: using the over-the-air
    EPG. Corresponding programmes on ITV3 (non HD) continue beyond that
    until Thursday 24 Nov at 2200.

    I might reconfigure TV Headend to use the ITV3 EPG for ITV3 HD as
    well. Or maybe nearer to the cut-off date, ITV3 HD might sort out
    their EPG.

    Thanks for the confirmation.


    And today it's fixed. Thanks all for the input.

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    Phil
    Liverpool, UK

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 18 12:45:10 2022
    As a matter of interest, I always thought that channels that are the same
    on sd and hd only used on listing and the presence of a code in the entry triggered hd or not depending on how it was sset?
    Brian

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    "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ff9b4857-0470-4df5-bfa8-88926dcce9f2n@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 09:22:55 UTC, NY wrote:
    "Brian Gregory" <void-invalid...@email.invalid> wrote in message
    news:jtnch8...@mid.individual.net...
    I believe there is a license fee to pay if you want to make boxes with
    the
    Freesat name and logo on them. I guess there may also be a fee for
    access/use of the algorithm needed to receive the Freesat EPG.

    Indeed, hence loads of TV's with DVB-S2 by default now but no Freesat.

    Is there anything special about the ability to receive the EPG for SD
    channels? I know that the EPG for HD channels is lightly encrypted such
    that
    VLC for example cannot reproduce "clean" EPG data (only a lot of funny
    characters with bits of clear text amongst them). I'm not sure whether it
    is
    HD channels in the EPG stream for *any* multiplex, or whether it is the
    whole EPG (SD and HD) within a T2 ("HD") multiplex which is encrypted.


    Incidentally, when I looked just now, ITV3 HD had EPG listings up to
    Friday
    25 Nov - so the normal 7 days.

    Does this matter? - you can view the full schedule for SD ITV1/2/3/4 on Freeview's EPG and then select the periods you want on satellite.

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Sat Nov 19 09:48:43 2022
    Hmm too many crumbs in my keyboard...
    Brian

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    "Brian Gaff" <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote in message news:tl7uop$2ugc7$1@dont-email.me...
    As a matter of interest, I always thought that channels that are the same
    on sd and hd only used on listing and the presence of a code in the entry triggered hd or not depending on how it was sset?
    Brian

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    "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ff9b4857-0470-4df5-bfa8-88926dcce9f2n@googlegroups.com...
    On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 09:22:55 UTC, NY wrote:
    "Brian Gregory" <void-invalid...@email.invalid> wrote in message
    news:jtnch8...@mid.individual.net...
    I believe there is a license fee to pay if you want to make boxes with >>> > the
    Freesat name and logo on them. I guess there may also be a fee for
    access/use of the algorithm needed to receive the Freesat EPG.

    Indeed, hence loads of TV's with DVB-S2 by default now but no Freesat.

    Is there anything special about the ability to receive the EPG for SD
    channels? I know that the EPG for HD channels is lightly encrypted such
    that
    VLC for example cannot reproduce "clean" EPG data (only a lot of funny
    characters with bits of clear text amongst them). I'm not sure whether
    it is
    HD channels in the EPG stream for *any* multiplex, or whether it is the
    whole EPG (SD and HD) within a T2 ("HD") multiplex which is encrypted.


    Incidentally, when I looked just now, ITV3 HD had EPG listings up to
    Friday
    25 Nov - so the normal 7 days.

    Does this matter? - you can view the full schedule for SD ITV1/2/3/4 on
    Freeview's EPG and then select the periods you want on satellite.



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