• JVC - still a reliable TV brand?

    From David@21:1/5 to All on Tue Nov 15 20:11:00 2022
    I saw that some JVC 4k TVs (around 40") were selling for around the £200
    mark without a very large reduction from full price.

    JVC used to be a good brand, so I am wondering if the name has been bought
    and budget panels are being shipped under this brand.

    Or are 4k TVs just getting much cheaper?

    I am looking for a 4k monitor around 40" as one of my dual monitors
    (ancient) has just died and my Full HD monitor won't really show two
    windows side by side with enough detail.

    Cheers



    Dave R


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  • From MikeS@21:1/5 to David on Tue Nov 15 21:44:31 2022
    On 15/11/2022 20:11, David wrote:
    I saw that some JVC 4k TVs (around 40") were selling for around the £200 mark without a very large reduction from full price.

    JVC used to be a good brand, so I am wondering if the name has been bought and budget panels are being shipped under this brand.

    Or are 4k TVs just getting much cheaper?

    I am looking for a 4k monitor around 40" as one of my dual monitors
    (ancient) has just died and my Full HD monitor won't really show two
    windows side by side with enough detail.

    Cheers



    Dave R


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  • From SH@21:1/5 to MikeS on Tue Nov 15 22:26:51 2022
    On 15/11/2022 21:44, MikeS wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 20:11, David wrote:
    I saw that some JVC 4k TVs (around 40") were selling for around the £200
    mark without a very large reduction from full price.

    JVC used to be a good brand, so I am wondering if the name has been
    bought
    and budget panels are being shipped under this brand.

    Or are 4k TVs just getting much cheaper?

    I am looking for a 4k monitor around 40" as one of my dual monitors
    (ancient) has just died and my Full HD monitor won't really show two
    windows side by side with enough detail.

    Cheers



    Dave R


    JVCKENWOOD Corporation has granted a license to Currys PLC to utilize
    its “JVC” trademark to sell “JVC” brand TV and Home Audio products in the UK.


    And JVC actually was Japan Victor Company before it became JVCkenwood

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  • From R. Mark Clayton@21:1/5 to David on Wed Nov 16 03:07:10 2022
    On Tuesday, 15 November 2022 at 20:11:03 UTC, David wrote:
    I saw that some JVC 4k TVs (around 40") were selling for around the £200 mark without a very large reduction from full price.

    JVC used to be a good brand, so I am wondering if the name has been bought and budget panels are being shipped under this brand.

    Or are 4k TVs just getting much cheaper?

    I am looking for a 4k monitor around 40" as one of my dual monitors (ancient) has just died and my Full HD monitor won't really show two
    windows side by side with enough detail.

    Cheers



    Dave R


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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to David on Wed Nov 16 12:20:32 2022
    In much the same way as CRTs used to be made by just a handful of people no matter what tv you bought, I think its going the same way with flat screens. The different technologies have their own expert makers. As for JVC, I tend
    to think as with many companies, the mass market products tend to be brand engineered around the same circuit and software to some extent. You might
    find some differences in software, but the hardware is much the same, and
    where stuff is made and what cost cutting is going on is anyone's guess.
    Brian

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    "David" <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:jtia2kFmmntU4@mid.individual.net...
    I saw that some JVC 4k TVs (around 40") were selling for around the 200
    mark without a very large reduction from full price.

    JVC used to be a good brand, so I am wondering if the name has been bought and budget panels are being shipped under this brand.

    Or are 4k TVs just getting much cheaper?

    I am looking for a 4k monitor around 40" as one of my dual monitors
    (ancient) has just died and my Full HD monitor won't really show two
    windows side by side with enough detail.

    Cheers



    Dave R


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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to MikeS on Wed Nov 16 12:21:58 2022
    Yes brand engineering, but its not who can sell them, its actually how well they are made I feel.

    Brian

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    "MikeS" <MikeS@fred.com> wrote in message
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    On 15/11/2022 20:11, David wrote:
    I saw that some JVC 4k TVs (around 40") were selling for around the 200
    mark without a very large reduction from full price.

    JVC used to be a good brand, so I am wondering if the name has been
    bought
    and budget panels are being shipped under this brand.

    Or are 4k TVs just getting much cheaper?

    I am looking for a 4k monitor around 40" as one of my dual monitors
    (ancient) has just died and my Full HD monitor won't really show two
    windows side by side with enough detail.

    Cheers



    Dave R


    JVCKENWOOD Corporation has granted a license to Currys PLC to utilize its "JVC" trademark to sell "JVC" brand TV and Home Audio products in the UK.


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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to i.love@spam.com on Wed Nov 16 12:24:45 2022
    And Kenwood over here used to be Trio back in the day, due to Kenwood making food mixers, a completely different company, and who would buy hifi from a company with the same name as a food mixer!

    Brian

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    "SH" <i.love@spam.com> wrote in message news:tl13nc$259ed$2@dont-email.me...
    On 15/11/2022 21:44, MikeS wrote:
    On 15/11/2022 20:11, David wrote:
    I saw that some JVC 4k TVs (around 40") were selling for around the 200 >>> mark without a very large reduction from full price.

    JVC used to be a good brand, so I am wondering if the name has been
    bought
    and budget panels are being shipped under this brand.

    Or are 4k TVs just getting much cheaper?

    I am looking for a 4k monitor around 40" as one of my dual monitors
    (ancient) has just died and my Full HD monitor won't really show two
    windows side by side with enough detail.

    Cheers



    Dave R


    JVCKENWOOD Corporation has granted a license to Currys PLC to utilize its
    "JVC" trademark to sell "JVC" brand TV and Home Audio products in the UK.


    And JVC actually was Japan Victor Company before it became JVCkenwood

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to David on Wed Nov 16 12:26:37 2022
    Sharp, do they still have that extra boost colour which is a kind of gold colour or have they just gone back to the old method?
    Brian

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    "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> wrote in message news:4edc94ef-f965-415d-870f-c51d584727afn@googlegroups.com...
    On Tuesday, 15 November 2022 at 20:11:03 UTC, David wrote:
    I saw that some JVC 4k TVs (around 40") were selling for around the 200
    mark without a very large reduction from full price.

    JVC used to be a good brand, so I am wondering if the name has been bought and budget panels are being shipped under this brand.

    Or are 4k TVs just getting much cheaper?

    I am looking for a 4k monitor around 40" as one of my dual monitors
    (ancient) has just died and my Full HD monitor won't really show two
    windows side by side with enough detail.

    Cheers



    Dave R


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  • From NY@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 16 13:35:24 2022
    "R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> wrote in message news:4edc94ef-f965-415d-870f-c51d584727afn@googlegroups.com...
    Richer Sounds will do you a 50" Sharp 4k TV for £249 and it has a DVB-S tuner.

    Is that for the complete TV, or for the special ion-free, ultra-pure-copper mains cable? ;-)

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Wed Nov 16 15:33:00 2022
    On 16/11/2022 12:21, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Yes brand engineering, but its not who can sell them, its actually how well they are made I feel.

    Brian



    Years ago I read an article that said one factory in Taiwan made just
    about all desktop computers including all the big names. The only
    difference was that the big established names had their own Quality
    Control people in the factory.

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  • From Woody@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 16 16:11:47 2022
    On Wed 16/11/2022 15:33, MB wrote:
    On 16/11/2022 12:21, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Yes brand engineering, but its not who can sell them, its actually how
    well
    they are made I feel.

      Brian



    Years ago I read an article that said one factory in Taiwan made just
    about all desktop computers including all the big names. The only
    difference was that the big established names had their own Quality
    Control people in the factory.




    That would be Foxconn. They are still very much in the same business -
    the make most of the phone and tablet kit for Apple (don't know about
    the Mac), motherboards under their own name, and so it goes on.

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 16 15:34:31 2022
    On 16/11/2022 13:35, NY wrote:
    Is that for the complete TV, or for the special ion-free, ultra-pure-copper mains cable? 😉


    The cable is extra, that is just the special ion-free, ultra-pure-copper
    mains plug.

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  • From David@21:1/5 to David on Thu Nov 17 14:37:45 2022
    On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 20:11:00 +0000, David wrote:

    I saw that some JVC 4k TVs (around 40") were selling for around the £200 mark without a very large reduction from full price.

    JVC used to be a good brand, so I am wondering if the name has been
    bought and budget panels are being shipped under this brand.

    Or are 4k TVs just getting much cheaper?

    I am looking for a 4k monitor around 40" as one of my dual monitors
    (ancient) has just died and my Full HD monitor won't really show two
    windows side by side with enough detail.

    Thanks all.
    So it appears to be a generic no-name (however good/bad that is).

    Will swerve for the moment.


    Cheers


    Dave R


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  • From R. Mark Clayton@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 18 02:55:29 2022
    On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 13:35:41 UTC, NY wrote:
    "R. Mark Clayton" <notya...@gmail.com> wrote in message news:4edc94ef-f965-415d...@googlegroups.com...
    Richer Sounds will do you a 50" Sharp 4k TV for £249 and it has a DVB-S tuner.
    Is that for the complete TV, or for the special ion-free, ultra-pure-copper mains cable? ;-)

    No that's another £249, more in silver...

    Seriously though Lidl have the Toshiba at £199 from Monday and it looks a decent specification: -
    https://www.lidl.co.uk/p/black-friday/toshiba-43-4k-smart-tv/p56660?ar=16

    Includes speakers, [wired] Ethernet, HDR, 3 HDMI, 2 USB (use USB 3 drives for reliable recording) and a [4k] satellite receiver. No Bluetooth and Wi-Fi not mentioned.

    Given the limitation of an HDMI connection, it should do fine as a monitor so long as you are not gaming.

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to David on Fri Nov 18 12:39:42 2022
    Often these thing depend on the customer service you get if there is an
    issue. I've not bought anything recently, so cannot comment.
    Brian

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    "David" <wibble@btinternet.com> wrote in message news:jtmv9pFmmntU7@mid.individual.net...
    On Tue, 15 Nov 2022 20:11:00 +0000, David wrote:

    I saw that some JVC 4k TVs (around 40") were selling for around the 200
    mark without a very large reduction from full price.

    JVC used to be a good brand, so I am wondering if the name has been
    bought and budget panels are being shipped under this brand.

    Or are 4k TVs just getting much cheaper?

    I am looking for a 4k monitor around 40" as one of my dual monitors
    (ancient) has just died and my Full HD monitor won't really show two
    windows side by side with enough detail.

    Thanks all.
    So it appears to be a generic no-name (however good/bad that is).

    Will swerve for the moment.


    Cheers


    Dave R


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  • From David@21:1/5 to R. Mark Clayton on Fri Nov 18 16:05:48 2022
    On Fri, 18 Nov 2022 02:55:29 -0800, R. Mark Clayton wrote:

    On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 13:35:41 UTC, NY wrote:
    "R. Mark Clayton" <notya...@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:4edc94ef-f965-415d...@googlegroups.com...
    Richer Sounds will do you a 50" Sharp 4k TV for £249 and it has a
    DVB-S tuner.
    Is that for the complete TV, or for the special ion-free,
    ultra-pure-copper mains cable? ;-)

    No that's another £249, more in silver...

    Seriously though Lidl have the Toshiba at £199 from Monday and it looks
    a decent specification: - https://www.lidl.co.uk/p/black-friday/toshiba-43-4k-smart-tv/p56660?ar=16

    Includes speakers, [wired] Ethernet, HDR, 3 HDMI, 2 USB (use USB 3
    drives for reliable recording) and a [4k] satellite receiver. No
    Bluetooth and Wi-Fi not mentioned.

    Given the limitation of an HDMI connection, it should do fine as a
    monitor so long as you are not gaming.

    Interesting, thanks.

    One issue is the space available.
    I have a nice little nice beside the door from the hall into the main
    living area/kitchen and up to 40" should fit without seriously endangering passers by.

    43" might be pushing it a bit unless I angle it which might be doable.

    Then again, I wonder how many TV sets there will be in the local stores,
    and if so for how long.

    Cheers



    Dave R


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  • From MB@21:1/5 to David on Fri Nov 18 17:39:45 2022
    On 18/11/2022 16:05, David wrote:
    One issue is the space available.
    I have a nice little nice beside the door from the hall into the main
    living area/kitchen and up to 40" should fit without seriously endangering passers by.


    When I got myself a new TV, ready for DSO, I was wondering where it
    could go and decided that the corner was the best place.

    I asked the local dealer for the dimensions and he got out an old
    cardboard box and cut a piece of cardboard to size for me to test the
    location in my house.

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  • From R. Mark Clayton@21:1/5 to David on Fri Nov 18 12:00:40 2022
    On Friday, 18 November 2022 at 16:05:50 UTC, David wrote:
    On Fri, 18 Nov 2022 02:55:29 -0800, R. Mark Clayton wrote:

    On Wednesday, 16 November 2022 at 13:35:41 UTC, NY wrote:
    "R. Mark Clayton" <notya...@gmail.com> wrote in message
    news:4edc94ef-f965-415d...@googlegroups.com...
    Richer Sounds will do you a 50" Sharp 4k TV for £249 and it has a
    DVB-S tuner.
    Is that for the complete TV, or for the special ion-free,
    ultra-pure-copper mains cable? ;-)

    No that's another £249, more in silver...

    Seriously though Lidl have the Toshiba at £199 from Monday and it looks
    a decent specification: - https://www.lidl.co.uk/p/black-friday/toshiba-43-4k-smart-tv/p56660?ar=16

    Includes speakers, [wired] Ethernet, HDR, 3 HDMI, 2 USB (use USB 3
    drives for reliable recording) and a [4k] satellite receiver. No
    Bluetooth and Wi-Fi not mentioned.

    Given the limitation of an HDMI connection, it should do fine as a
    monitor so long as you are not gaming.
    Interesting, thanks.

    One issue is the space available.
    I have a nice little nice beside the door from the hall into the main
    living area/kitchen and up to 40" should fit without seriously endangering passers by.

    43" might be pushing it a bit unless I angle it which might be doable.

    Then again, I wonder how many TV sets there will be in the local stores,
    and if so for how long.
    Cheers

    RS did one and price not too bad : - https://www.richersounds.com/lg-40uf675v.html

    Spec' imprecise - even on LG site.



    Dave R


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  • From alan_m@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 23 09:48:29 2022
    On 18/11/2022 17:39, MB wrote:
    On 18/11/2022 16:05, David wrote:
    One issue is the space available.
    I have a nice little nice beside the door from the hall into the main
    living area/kitchen and up to 40" should fit without seriously
    endangering
    passers by.


    When I got myself a new TV, ready for DSO, I was wondering where it
    could go and decided that the corner was the best place.

    I asked the local dealer for the dimensions and he got out an old
    cardboard box and cut a piece of cardboard to size for me to test the location in my house.
    A few years back my mother had a 21 inch CRT TV which weighed a ton and
    the bezel around the screen was extremely wide. One day it failed so
    time for a new TV. I took her around the local store to see some flat
    panel TVs - "I don't want one as big as that looking at 40(ish) inch
    panels."
    It took some persuading AND a cut out piece of cardboard to demonstrate
    that the a 43 inch panel was actually a smaller than the front of her
    old 21 inch CRT set. Also the panel being around 50x to 100x thinner
    than the CRT set gained her much more usable space in her living room.

    On installation of a 42/43 inch panel the first comment was "I can see
    that a lot better than my old TV" At the time her sight was just
    beginning to fail, unfortunately a dozen years on and now registered as partially sited and relying on modern technology to help out.




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  • From R. Mark Clayton@21:1/5 to All on Wed Nov 23 04:31:43 2022
    On Wednesday, 23 November 2022 at 09:48:32 UTC, alan_m wrote:
    On 18/11/2022 17:39, MB wrote:
    On 18/11/2022 16:05, David wrote:
    One issue is the space available.
    I have a nice little nice beside the door from the hall into the main
    living area/kitchen and up to 40" should fit without seriously
    endangering
    passers by.


    When I got myself a new TV, ready for DSO, I was wondering where it
    could go and decided that the corner was the best place.

    I asked the local dealer for the dimensions and he got out an old
    cardboard box and cut a piece of cardboard to size for me to test the location in my house.
    A few years back my mother had a 21 inch CRT TV which weighed a ton and
    the bezel around the screen was extremely wide. One day it failed so
    time for a new TV. I took her around the local store to see some flat
    panel TVs - "I don't want one as big as that looking at 40(ish) inch
    panels."
    It took some persuading AND a cut out piece of cardboard to demonstrate
    that the a 43 inch panel was actually a smaller than the front of her
    old 21 inch CRT set. Also the panel being around 50x to 100x thinner
    than the CRT set gained her much more usable space in her living room.

    On installation of a 42/43 inch panel the first comment was "I can see
    that a lot better than my old TV" At the time her sight was just
    beginning to fail, unfortunately a dozen years on and now registered as partially sited and relying on modern technology to help out.




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