On 19/10/2022 09:34, Jeff Gaines wrote:
Here's the source of the rumours
Not sure if I will succumb to the panic but the BBC is preparing for
emergency broadcasts:
"EBC service would provide intermittent news bulletins on Radio 4's FM
and long-wave frequencies and a 'music service', with news updates on the
FM spectrum used by Radio 2."
It looks like DAB is out so a battery or wind up radio covering FM and
long wave would fit the bill.
Does that make sense?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/oct/18/bbc-prepares-secret-scripts-for-possible-use-in-winter-blackouts
Not sure if I will succumb to the panic but the BBC is preparing for emergency broadcasts:
"EBC service would provide intermittent news bulletins on Radio 4's FM and long-wave frequencies and a 'music service', with news updates on the FM spectrum used by Radio 2."
It looks like DAB is out so a battery or wind up radio covering FM and
long wave would fit the bill.
Not sure if I will succumb to the panic but the BBC is preparing for emergency broadcasts:
"EBC service would provide intermittent news bulletins on Radio 4's FM
and long-wave frequencies and a 'music service', with news updates on
the FM spectrum used by Radio 2."
It looks like DAB is out so a battery or wind up radio covering FM and
long wave would fit the bill.
Does that make sense?
Here's the source of the rumours
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/oct/18/bbc-prepares-secret-scripts-for-possible-use-in-winter-blackouts
but if the power does go off first, surely the phones
wont work as the cell towers will be silent.
Its what amuses me about mobile phones. They all have an emergency alert noise
On 19/10/2022 09:34, Jeff Gaines wrote:
Here's the source of the rumours
Not sure if I will succumb to the panic but the BBC is preparing for
emergency broadcasts:
"EBC service would provide intermittent news bulletins on Radio 4's FM
and long-wave frequencies and a 'music service', with news updates on
the FM spectrum used by Radio 2."
It looks like DAB is out so a battery or wind up radio covering FM and
long wave would fit the bill.
Does that make sense?
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/oct/18/bbc-prepares-secret-scripts-for-possible-use-in-winter-blackouts
On 19/10/2022 09:53, Mark Carver wrote:
Here's the source of the rumours
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/oct/18/bbc-prepares-secret-scripts-for-possible-use-in-winter-blackouts
It seems to be in all the media, (mostly before the Grauniad).
Makes sense, I have more faith in the broadcast networks than Internet.
I can imagine that in the event of severe power cuts quite a few are
going to find the Internet is not as resilient as they think.
Jeff Gaines wrote:
Not sure if I will succumb to the panic but the BBC is preparing for >>emergency broadcasts:
You'll be too busy sticking your head between your legs and kissing your
arse goodbye ...
Not sure if I will succumb to the panic but the BBC is preparing for emergency
broadcasts:
Not sure if I will succumb to the panic but the BBC is preparing for emergency broadcasts:
"EBC service would provide intermittent news bulletins on Radio 4's FM and long-wave frequencies and a 'music service', with news updates on the FM spectrum used by Radio 2."
It looks like DAB is out so a battery or wind up radio covering FM and
long wave would fit the bill.
Does that make sense?
Couple of comments:
1. How can they say, 'Northern Ireland would be unaffected because
its electricity grid is shared with the Republic of Ireland'? Surely
RoI is at risk of energy shortages in the same way as other European countries?
2. Does this suggest that Droitwich LW will be retained on stand-by
for future emergencies?
On 19/10/2022 12:50, Scott wrote:
Couple of comments:
1. How can they say, 'Northern Ireland would be unaffected because
its electricity grid is shared with the Republic of Ireland'? Surely
RoI is at risk of energy shortages in the same way as other European
countries?
2. Does this suggest that Droitwich LW will be retained on stand-by
for future emergencies?
What would the point be?
Very few people listen to Long Wave, start putting out emergency >announcements and the few crickets nuts (who do listen) will start moaning.
I don't think my car radio has Long Wave but never checked, most of my
radios in the house do not have it and it useless around here despite
the supposedly "national" coveragee.
I suppose Rent-a-Mob will start protesting is the Southern Irish start >digging up peat to keep their old power stations going! Do they have
any peat or coal powered ones left?
I was reading a few days ago of some countries bringing forward Long
Wave close down.
Jeff Gaines <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Not sure if I will succumb to the panic but the BBC is preparing for >>emergency broadcasts:
"EBC service would provide intermittent news bulletins on Radio 4's FM and >>long-wave frequencies and a 'music service', with news updates on the FM >>spectrum used by Radio 2."
It looks like DAB is out so a battery or wind up radio covering FM and
long wave would fit the bill.
Does that make sense?
Get a battery-powered radio that covers MW, SW, and FM. MW will get you >foreign broadcasts after dark, and SW pretty much 24/7. A receiver that
does SSB will at least on SW also enable you to listen to Radio Amateurs as >well.
This should enable the listener to form a wider view of events than those
the BBC are willing to tell you about.
I don’t have one of these, but a Retekess V115 receiver will do most of
the
above, but not SSB, for £23 on Amazon and is USB rechargeable. Bung in a >card and record what you’re listening to.
There are no end of web sites giving MW and SW broadcast schedules.
Very few people listen to Long Wave, start putting out emergency announcements and the few crickets nuts (who do listen) will start moaning.
On 19/10/2022 14:24, MB wrote:
Very few people listen to Long Wave, start putting out emergency announcements and the few crickets nuts (who do listen) will start moaning.
I think the idea of using long wave for emergency broadcasts is not new.
E.g see this government document from 2013 <https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/136351/Emergency_Communications_1_.pdf>
(although it is discussing when to abandon long wave for this purpose).
I suspect the reason for it is that one transmitter can cover the whole country,
so you are not relying on having a lot of infrastructure
working. TV and DAB may well uplink to satellites before they get transmitted terrestrially.
I suspect the reason for it is that one transmitter can cover the whole country, so you are not relying on having a lot of infrastructure
working. TV and DAB may well uplink to satellites before they get transmitted terrestrially.
On 19/10/2022 in message <jrab75Frh5dU1@mid.individual.net> Spike wrote:
Jeff Gaines <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
Not sure if I will succumb to the panic but the BBC is preparing for
emergency broadcasts:
"EBC service would provide intermittent news bulletins on Radio 4's FM and >>> long-wave frequencies and a 'music service', with news updates on the FM >>> spectrum used by Radio 2."
It looks like DAB is out so a battery or wind up radio covering FM and
long wave would fit the bill.
Does that make sense?
Get a battery-powered radio that covers MW, SW, and FM. MW will get you
foreign broadcasts after dark, and SW pretty much 24/7. A receiver that
does SSB will at least on SW also enable you to listen to Radio Amateurs as >> well.
This should enable the listener to form a wider view of events than those
the BBC are willing to tell you about.
I don’t have one of these, but a Retekess V115 receiver will do most of
the
above, but not SSB, for £23 on Amazon and is USB rechargeable. Bung in a
card and record what you’re listening to.
There are no end of web sites giving MW and SW broadcast schedules.
That is an interesting idea :-)
I used to have an R1155, a CR100, a Yupiteru MVT-7100 and an AOR 5000 +3,
all long gone.
What about a decent hand held scanner that covers Medium Wave?
I believe Denmark has stopped ordinary radio broadcasts on long wave
but fires up the transmitter two or three or four times a day for the shipping forecast. I am simply asking if the same logic could apply
to Droitwich in an emergency.
England, possibly, but not Scotland or Northern Ireland
On 19/10/2022 09:53, Mark Carver wrote:
Here's the source of the rumours
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2022/oct/18/bbc-prepares-secret-scripts-for-possible-use-in-winter-blackouts
It seems to be in all the media, (mostly before the Grauniad).
Makes sense, I have more faith in the broadcast networks than Internet.
I can imagine that in the event of severe power cuts quite a few are
going to find the Internet is not as resilient as they think.
On 19/10/2022 14:36, Scott wrote:
I believe Denmark has stopped ordinary radio broadcasts on long wave
but fires up the transmitter two or three or four times a day for the
shipping forecast. I am simply asking if the same logic could apply
to Droitwich in an emergency.
Very expensive way of providing a transmission of the Shipping Forecast
for a fewyachtiess to listen to in bed. I can't imagine any commercial >shipping vessels using it and with cost of yachts, they can easily
afford decent equipment to get the forecast.
On Wed, 19 Oct 2022 16:35:18 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
One transmitter cannot serve the UK on Long wave especially to cheap
portable radios. There are three transmitters and many areas with poor
coverage.
Even if long wave covered the whole of the solar system it would be
pointless if nobody had radios capable of receiving it.
One transmitter cannot serve the UK on Long wave especially to cheap
portable radios. There are three transmitters and many areas with poor >coverage.
On 19/10/2022 15:52, charles wrote:
England, possibly, but not Scotland or Northern Ireland
I suppose that with all the power off, there will be less interference
from all the electrical interference generators so it might be possible
to hear it in cities at least for those who can find a working Long Wave >radio receiver.
On 19/10/2022 15:42, David Woolley wrote:
I suspect the reason for it is that one transmitter can cover the whole
country, so you are not relying on having a lot of infrastructure
working. TV and DAB may well uplink to satellites before they get
transmitted terrestrially.
One transmitter cannot serve the UK on Long wave especially to cheap
portable radios. There are three transmitters and many areas with poor >coverage.
True, I wouldn't fancy my chances in Thurso without Burghead.I wouldn't fancy my chances in Thurso.
On 19/10/2022 18:17, Chris Youlden wrote:
FM has the advantage that the RBS system could presumably kick in if distribution failed?
Have you ever heard the VHF network running on RBS up the country!
On 19/10/2022 15:42, David Woolley wrote:
I suspect the reason for it is that one transmitter can cover the whole
country, so you are not relying on having a lot of infrastructure
working. TV and DAB may well uplink to satellites before they get
transmitted terrestrially.
One transmitter cannot serve the UK on Long wave especially to cheap
portable radios. There are three transmitters and many areas with poor coverage.
FM has the advantage that the RBS system could presumably kick in if distribution failed?
On 19/10/2022 18:17, Chris Youlden wrote:
FM has the advantage that the RBS system could presumably kick in if
distribution failed?
Have you ever heard the VHF network running on RBS up the country!
Not sure if I will succumb to the panic but the BBC is preparing for emergency broadcasts:
"EBC service would provide intermittent news bulletins on Radio 4's FM and long-wave frequencies and a 'music service', with news updates on the FM spectrum used by Radio 2."
It looks like DAB is out so a battery or wind up radio covering FM and
long wave would fit the bill.
Does that make sense?
--
Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
There is absolutely no substitute for a genuine lack of preparation
On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 09:46:16 +0100, "Brian Gaff"Most of the local studios no longer exist anyway, the output derives
<brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
Do they have any plans to use the many commercial stations around theDo these stations employ dedicated reporters and presenters? I
country, they could surely get more local news out that way.
Brian
thought they were mostly syndicated with local jingles and adverts
dropped in by computer.
Do they have any plans to use the many commercial stations around the >country, they could surely get more local news out that way.
Brian
On 19/10/2022 15:52, charles wrote:
England, possibly, but not Scotland or Northern Ireland
I suppose that with all the power off, there will be less
interference from all the electrical interference generators so it
might be possible to hear it in cities at least for those who can
find a working Long Wave radio receiver.
It looks like DAB is out so a battery or wind up radio covering FM and
long wave would fit the bill.
I thought they were mostly syndicated with local jingles and adverts dropped in by computer.Talking of localised variations being dropped-in ...
I have ordered a Tecsun PL-680 from Nevada in the hope it will get any >>emergency broadcasts and may awaken my interest in scanning.
It looks a bit like the one I have, but with knobs on - literally. I
have a small radio that has all of the features listed for this one,
but only keypad entry for everything, and I have to get the
instruction book out every time I use it. This looks a lot better.
I'm puzzled that the radio is said to require AA batteries, but below
the description it shows as "accessories for this product" a couple of >chargers for 18650s. I wonder which is correct?
On 19/10/2022 in message <xn0noahqt8hnnyv008@news.individual.net> Jeff
Gaines wrote:
It looks like DAB is out so a battery or wind up radio covering FM and
long wave would fit the bill.
Many thanks for all the replies :-)
I have ordered a Tecsun PL-680 from Nevada in the hope it will get any >emergency broadcasts and may awaken my interest in scanning.
On 19/10/2022 12:50, Scott wrote:
Couple of comments:
1. How can they say, 'Northern Ireland would be unaffected because
its electricity grid is shared with the Republic of Ireland'? Surely
RoI is at risk of energy shortages in the same way as other European
countries?
2. Does this suggest that Droitwich LW will be retained on stand-by
for future emergencies?
What would the point be?
Very few people listen to Long Wave, start putting out emergency announcements and the few crickets nuts (who do listen) will start moaning.
I don't think my car radio has Long Wave but never checked, most of my
radios in the house do not have it and it useless around here despite
the supposedly "national" coveragee.
I suppose Rent-a-Mob will start protesting is the Southern Irish start digging up peat to keep their old power stations going! Do they have
any peat or coal powered ones left?
I was reading a few days ago of some countries bringing forward Long
Wave close down.
Op 19-10-2022 om 15:24 schreef MB:
On 19/10/2022 12:50, Scott wrote:
Couple of comments:
1. How can they say, 'Northern Ireland would be unaffected because
its electricity grid is shared with the Republic of Ireland'? Surely >>> RoI is at risk of energy shortages in the same way as other European
countries?
2. Does this suggest that Droitwich LW will be retained on stand-by
for future emergencies?
What would the point be?
Very few people listen to Long Wave, start putting out emergency
announcements and the few crickets nuts (who do listen) will start
moaning.
I don't think my car radio has Long Wave but never checked, most of my
radios in the house do not have it and it useless around here despite
the supposedly "national" coveragee.
I suppose Rent-a-Mob will start protesting is the Southern Irish start
digging up peat to keep their old power stations going! Do they have
any peat or coal powered ones left?
I was reading a few days ago of some countries bringing forward Long
Wave close down.
RTL 234 kHz is closing down on 31 decembre 2022.
After that, there are only:
153 Romania
162 France (no radio, just for clocks)
171 Marocco
189 Iceland
198 UK (4 transmitters)
207 Iceland
225 Poland
243 Denmark (only a few hours per day)
252 Ireland & Algeria
Mongolia has transmitters on 164. 209 and 227.
Yes, the old, old frequencies.
But most people in Europe cannot receive those.
198 UK (4 transmitters)
On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:
198 UK (4 transmitters)
The BBC should just tell the government that they will only continue on
Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to
complete DAB coverage.
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
198 UK (4 transmitters)
The BBC should just tell the government that they will only continue on
Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to
complete DAB coverage.
On Sat 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:
Op 19-10-2022 om 15:24 schreef MB:
On 19/10/2022 12:50, Scott wrote:
Couple of comments:
1. How can they say, 'Northern Ireland would be unaffected because
its electricity grid is shared with the Republic of Ireland'? Surely >>>> RoI is at risk of energy shortages in the same way as other European
countries?
2. Does this suggest that Droitwich LW will be retained on stand-by
for future emergencies?
What would the point be?
Very few people listen to Long Wave, start putting out emergency
announcements and the few crickets nuts (who do listen) will start
moaning.
I don't think my car radio has Long Wave but never checked, most of
my radios in the house do not have it and it useless around here
despite the supposedly "national" coveragee.
I suppose Rent-a-Mob will start protesting is the Southern Irish
start digging up peat to keep their old power stations going! Do
they have any peat or coal powered ones left?
I was reading a few days ago of some countries bringing forward Long
Wave close down.
RTL 234 kHz is closing down on 31 decembre 2022.
After that, there are only:
153 Romania
162 France (no radio, just for clocks)
171 Marocco
189 Iceland
198 UK (4 transmitters)
207 Iceland
225 Poland
243 Denmark (only a few hours per day)
252 Ireland & Algeria
Mongolia has transmitters on 164. 209 and 227.
Yes, the old, old frequencies.
But most people in Europe cannot receive those.
UK LW broadcast sites on 198KHz are
Droitwich (Just north east of M5 J5)
Westerglen (Near Falkirk)
and Burghead (West of Lossiemouth on N coast of Scotland)
Where is the fourth - note broadcast - site?
On 27/11/2022 16:33, Tweed wrote:yes have a look at this https://opautoclicker.onl/download/
Scott <newsg...@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <M...@nospam.net> wrote:
On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
198 UK (4 transmitters)
The BBC should just tell the government that they will only continue on >>> Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to
complete DAB coverage.
How does that work in the car?Everyone has Internet access everywhere, didn't you know? This is how
people can access parking apps to pay for parking now there aren't any
coin machines. Do keep up!
--
Max Demian
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
198 UK (4 transmitters)
The BBC should just tell the government that they will only continue on
Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to
complete DAB coverage.
How does that work in the car?
Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
198 UK (4 transmitters)
The BBC should just tell the government that they will only continue on
Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to
complete DAB coverage.
How does that work in the car?
On 27/11/2022 16:14, Scott wrote:
Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
Not very helpful to peopl who want to listen to the RADIO in the car etc.
Op 27-11-2022 om 9:42 schreef Woody:
On Sat 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:
Op 19-10-2022 om 15:24 schreef MB:
On 19/10/2022 12:50, Scott wrote:
Couple of comments:
1. How can they say, 'Northern Ireland would be unaffected because >>>>> its electricity grid is shared with the Republic of Ireland'? Surely >>>>> RoI is at risk of energy shortages in the same way as other European >>>>> countries?
2. Does this suggest that Droitwich LW will be retained on stand-by >>>>> for future emergencies?
What would the point be?
Very few people listen to Long Wave, start putting out emergency
announcements and the few crickets nuts (who do listen) will start
moaning.
I don't think my car radio has Long Wave but never checked, most of
my radios in the house do not have it and it useless around here
despite the supposedly "national" coveragee.
I suppose Rent-a-Mob will start protesting is the Southern Irish
start digging up peat to keep their old power stations going! Do
they have any peat or coal powered ones left?
I was reading a few days ago of some countries bringing forward Long
Wave close down.
RTL 234 kHz is closing down on 31 decembre 2022.
After that, there are only:
153 Romania
162 France (no radio, just for clocks)
171 Marocco
189 Iceland
198 UK (4 transmitters)
207 Iceland
225 Poland
243 Denmark (only a few hours per day)
252 Ireland & Algeria
Mongolia has transmitters on 164. 209 and 227.
Yes, the old, old frequencies.
But most people in Europe cannot receive those.
UK LW broadcast sites on 198KHz are
Droitwich (Just north east of M5 J5)
Westerglen (Near Falkirk)
and Burghead (West of Lossiemouth on N coast of Scotland)
Where is the fourth - note broadcast - site?
Dartfort Tunnel near London, only 4 Watt.
On 27/11/2022 18:14, MB wrote:
On 27/11/2022 16:14, Scott wrote:
Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
Not very helpful to peopl who want to listen to the RADIO in the car etc.
it is if you have a 4g router to Wifi in the car.........
it is if you have a 4g router to Wifi in the car.........
On 27/11/2022 16:33, Tweed wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
198 UK (4 transmitters)
The BBC should just tell the government that they will only continue on >>>> Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to
complete DAB coverage.
How does that work in the car?
Everyone has Internet access everywhere, didn't you know? This is how
people can access parking apps to pay for parking now there aren't any
coin machines. Do keep up!
On Sun 27/11/2022 17:25, Max Demian wrote:
On 27/11/2022 16:33, Tweed wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
198 UK (4 transmitters)
The BBC should just tell the government that they will only continue on >>>>> Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to
complete DAB coverage.
How does that work in the car?
Everyone has Internet access everywhere, didn't you know? This is how
people can access parking apps to pay for parking now there aren't any
coin machines. Do keep up!
SOT: I found out yesterday that you can in effect be penalised if you
don't pay by card, i.e. you use cash.
Bought some long like milk from a German supermarket about ten days ago,
all dated for 5 Dec. Yesterday we found the fourth (of six) bottles had >curdled. The remaining two were also off. I went to the store and
because I couldn't produce a receipt (for a cash transaction!) of ten
days ago they were not interested unless I could tell them the time and
day I bought the milk. Who keeps a receipt for a small cash transaction
for (in theory) three weeks in case something goes wrong?They didn't
answer that question.)
On the other hand if I had paid cashless they would be able to
back-trace the card number I used and would resolve the issue.
Hmmm.........
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 19:19:48 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
On Sun 27/11/2022 17:25, Max Demian wrote:
On 27/11/2022 16:33, Tweed wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
198 UK (4 transmitters)
The BBC should just tell the government that they will only continue on >>>>>> Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to
complete DAB coverage.
How does that work in the car?
Everyone has Internet access everywhere, didn't you know? This is how
people can access parking apps to pay for parking now there aren't any
coin machines. Do keep up!
SOT: I found out yesterday that you can in effect be penalised if you
don't pay by card, i.e. you use cash.
Bought some long like milk from a German supermarket about ten days ago,
all dated for 5 Dec. Yesterday we found the fourth (of six) bottles had
curdled. The remaining two were also off. I went to the store and
because I couldn't produce a receipt (for a cash transaction!) of ten
days ago they were not interested unless I could tell them the time and
day I bought the milk. Who keeps a receipt for a small cash transaction
for (in theory) three weeks in case something goes wrong?They didn't
answer that question.)
On the other hand if I had paid cashless they would be able to
back-trace the card number I used and would resolve the issue.
Hmmm.........
I think that is the correct legal position. If you are making a claim
for faulty goods, you need to prove (on the balance of probabilities)
that the other side supplied the goods. I would argue for an own
brand the test would be met by facts and circumstances..
On Sun 27/11/2022 20:15, Scott wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 19:19:48 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
On Sun 27/11/2022 17:25, Max Demian wrote:
On 27/11/2022 16:33, Tweed wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
198 UK (4 transmitters)
The BBC should just tell the government that they will only continue on >>>>>>> Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to >>>>>>> complete DAB coverage.
How does that work in the car?
Everyone has Internet access everywhere, didn't you know? This is how
people can access parking apps to pay for parking now there aren't any >>>> coin machines. Do keep up!
SOT: I found out yesterday that you can in effect be penalised if you
don't pay by card, i.e. you use cash.
Bought some long like milk from a German supermarket about ten days ago, >>> all dated for 5 Dec. Yesterday we found the fourth (of six) bottles had
curdled. The remaining two were also off. I went to the store and
because I couldn't produce a receipt (for a cash transaction!) of ten
days ago they were not interested unless I could tell them the time and
day I bought the milk. Who keeps a receipt for a small cash transaction
for (in theory) three weeks in case something goes wrong?They didn't
answer that question.)
On the other hand if I had paid cashless they would be able to
back-trace the card number I used and would resolve the issue.
Hmmm.........
I think that is the correct legal position. If you are making a claim
for faulty goods, you need to prove (on the balance of probabilities)
that the other side supplied the goods. I would argue for an own
brand the test would be met by facts and circumstances..
And it was/is own brand and I took the fourth bottle with me - but they >weren't interested.
On Sun 27/11/2022 18:39, SH wrote:
On 27/11/2022 18:14, MB wrote:
On 27/11/2022 16:14, Scott wrote:
Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
Not very helpful to peopl who want to listen to the RADIO in the car
etc.
it is if you have a 4g router to Wifi in the car.........
And how many in-car systems have wi-fi capability let alone some app to
run that would provide a something similar to a car radio?
PLUS you don't have to pay to listen to a radio, but using 4G for
several hours of listening on a long journey could get very expensive.
On 27/11/2022 19:22, Woody wrote:
On Sun 27/11/2022 18:39, SH wrote:
On 27/11/2022 18:14, MB wrote:
On 27/11/2022 16:14, Scott wrote:
Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
Not very helpful to peopl who want to listen to the RADIO in the car
etc.
it is if you have a 4g router to Wifi in the car.........
And how many in-car systems have wi-fi capability let alone some app to
run that would provide a something similar to a car radio?
My hum,ble VW Golf Mk7 has a factory fitted WiFi enabled entertainment console.... turn on the hotspot on my 4g smartphone and then my my
factory fitted entertainment console can access spotify, BBC sounds etc..
Can also do it via bluetooth from my Smartphone using the spotify, BBC
sounds apps etc
PLUS you don't have to pay to listen to a radio, but using 4G for
several hours of listening on a long journey could get very expensive.
Not if you have a Smarty 4g/5g SIM from https://smarty.co.uk/sim-only/#plans
30GB / month at £10 / month gets you a serious load of music!
There is unlimited for £20 a month, a fiver a week.
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 20:16:41 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
On Sun 27/11/2022 20:15, Scott wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 19:19:48 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
On Sun 27/11/2022 17:25, Max Demian wrote:
On 27/11/2022 16:33, Tweed wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
198 UK (4 transmitters)
The BBC should just tell the government that they will only continue on
Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to >>>>>>>> complete DAB coverage.
How does that work in the car?
Everyone has Internet access everywhere, didn't you know? This is how >>>>> people can access parking apps to pay for parking now there aren't any >>>>> coin machines. Do keep up!
SOT: I found out yesterday that you can in effect be penalised if you
don't pay by card, i.e. you use cash.
Bought some long like milk from a German supermarket about ten days ago, >>>> all dated for 5 Dec. Yesterday we found the fourth (of six) bottles had >>>> curdled. The remaining two were also off. I went to the store and
because I couldn't produce a receipt (for a cash transaction!) of ten
days ago they were not interested unless I could tell them the time and >>>> day I bought the milk. Who keeps a receipt for a small cash transaction >>>> for (in theory) three weeks in case something goes wrong?They didn't
answer that question.)
On the other hand if I had paid cashless they would be able to
back-trace the card number I used and would resolve the issue.
Hmmm.........
I think that is the correct legal position. If you are making a claim
for faulty goods, you need to prove (on the balance of probabilities)
that the other side supplied the goods. I would argue for an own
brand the test would be met by facts and circumstances..
And it was/is own brand and I took the fourth bottle with me - but they
weren't interested.
I would say that you have a claim under the Consumer Rights Act 2015
(that replaced the Sale of Goods Act) but that such claim would be
uneconomic to pursue. I would contact customer services at the head
office and see what happens. You could always stand with a placard
outside the shop and hand out leaflets, I suppose. Alternatively,
take them off your supplier list and go elsewhere, which is what I
would do.
On Sun 27/11/2022 21:47, Scott wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 20:16:41 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
On Sun 27/11/2022 20:15, Scott wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 19:19:48 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
On Sun 27/11/2022 17:25, Max Demian wrote:
On 27/11/2022 16:33, Tweed wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
198 UK (4 transmitters)
The BBC should just tell the government that they will only continue on
Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to >>>>>>>>> complete DAB coverage.
How does that work in the car?
Everyone has Internet access everywhere, didn't you know? This is how >>>>>> people can access parking apps to pay for parking now there aren't any >>>>>> coin machines. Do keep up!
SOT: I found out yesterday that you can in effect be penalised if you >>>>> don't pay by card, i.e. you use cash.
Bought some long like milk from a German supermarket about ten days ago, >>>>> all dated for 5 Dec. Yesterday we found the fourth (of six) bottles had >>>>> curdled. The remaining two were also off. I went to the store and
because I couldn't produce a receipt (for a cash transaction!) of ten >>>>> days ago they were not interested unless I could tell them the time and >>>>> day I bought the milk. Who keeps a receipt for a small cash transaction >>>>> for (in theory) three weeks in case something goes wrong?They didn't >>>>> answer that question.)
On the other hand if I had paid cashless they would be able to
back-trace the card number I used and would resolve the issue.
Hmmm.........
I think that is the correct legal position. If you are making a claim >>>> for faulty goods, you need to prove (on the balance of probabilities)
that the other side supplied the goods. I would argue for an own
brand the test would be met by facts and circumstances..
And it was/is own brand and I took the fourth bottle with me - but they
weren't interested.
I would say that you have a claim under the Consumer Rights Act 2015
(that replaced the Sale of Goods Act) but that such claim would be
uneconomic to pursue. I would contact customer services at the head
office and see what happens. You could always stand with a placard
outside the shop and hand out leaflets, I suppose. Alternatively,
take them off your supplier list and go elsewhere, which is what I
would do.
Did contact CS - same response, talk to store. Have already jumped off
their train. Pity as they sometimes have good bargains in non-foods and
some good wines. Still we have another Lidl within range and two Lidls.
Did you know: Aldi do filtered (i.e. long life) milk in all types but
Lidl only do it in green and red top, not in full fat blue top.
Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
How does that work in the car?
On Sun 27/11/2022 21:47, Scott wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 20:16:41 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
On Sun 27/11/2022 20:15, Scott wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 19:19:48 +0000, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
On Sun 27/11/2022 17:25, Max Demian wrote:
On 27/11/2022 16:33, Tweed wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
198 UK (4 transmitters)
The BBC should just tell the government that they will only
continue on
Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to >>>>>>>>> complete DAB coverage.
How does that work in the car?
Everyone has Internet access everywhere, didn't you know? This is how >>>>>> people can access parking apps to pay for parking now there aren't >>>>>> any
coin machines. Do keep up!
SOT: I found out yesterday that you can in effect be penalised if you >>>>> don't pay by card, i.e. you use cash.
Bought some long like milk from a German supermarket about ten days
ago,
all dated for 5 Dec. Yesterday we found the fourth (of six) bottles
had
curdled. The remaining two were also off. I went to the store and
because I couldn't produce a receipt (for a cash transaction!) of ten >>>>> days ago they were not interested unless I could tell them the time
and
day I bought the milk. Who keeps a receipt for a small cash
transaction
for (in theory) three weeks in case something goes wrong?They didn't >>>>> answer that question.)
On the other hand if I had paid cashless they would be able to
back-trace the card number I used and would resolve the issue.
Hmmm.........
I think that is the correct legal position. If you are making a claim >>>> for faulty goods, you need to prove (on the balance of probabilities)
that the other side supplied the goods. I would argue for an own
brand the test would be met by facts and circumstances..
And it was/is own brand and I took the fourth bottle with me - but they
weren't interested.
I would say that you have a claim under the Consumer Rights Act 2015
(that replaced the Sale of Goods Act) but that such claim would be
uneconomic to pursue. I would contact customer services at the head
office and see what happens. You could always stand with a placard
outside the shop and hand out leaflets, I suppose. Alternatively,
take them off your supplier list and go elsewhere, which is what I
would do.
Did contact CS - same response, talk to store. Have already jumped off
their train. Pity as they sometimes have good bargains in non-foods and
some good wines. Still we have another Lidl within range and two Lidls.
Did you know: Aldi do filtered (i.e. long life) milk in all types but
Lidl only do it in green and red top, not in full fat blue top.
There is also the risk of prosecution if you touch the phone to change station.
On 28/11/2022 10:16, MB wrote:
There is also the risk of prosecution if you touch the phone to change
station.
If you have a rozzer sat in the car with you, I suppose there is. (I'm
not condoling the practice BTW)
My hum,ble VW Golf Mk7 has a factory fitted WiFi enabled entertainment console.... turn on the hotspot on my 4g smartphone and then my my
factory fitted entertainment console can access spotify, BBC sounds etc..
Can also do it via bluetooth from my Smartphone using the spotify, BBC
sounds apps etc
Not if you have a Smarty 4g/5g SIM fromhttps://smarty.co.uk/sim-only/#plans
30GB / month at £10 / month gets you a serious load of music!
There is unlimited for £20 a month, a fiver a week.
Before I set off on a long journey I download a selection
of podcasts from BBC Sounds onto my phone. In the car, via
the bluetooth connection, click the app on the phone then
drive off controlling the volume and next-track via my
steering wheel buttons. I find the 6 Music podcasts much
better to listen to than the live DAB, as there is less DJ
chatter.
If you have a rozzer sat in the car with you, I suppose there is. (I'm
not condoling the practice BTW)
NB NOT recommended for reading or writing text messages due to the
amount of concentration needed! But hands free telephony is supported
and as far as I know, that is road legal.
On 28/11/2022 10:44, SH wrote:
NB NOT recommended for reading or writing text messages due to the
amount of concentration needed! But hands free telephony is supported
and as far as I know, that is road legal.
I don't think it is specifically "road legal" but if a police officer
says he did not think you were in full control of your car and he saw
you touching your phone ....
On 28/11/2022 10:33, Mark Carver wrote:
If you have a rozzer sat in the car with you, I suppose there is. (I'm
not condoling the practice BTW)
Just need police driving past and say he saw you touch your phone -
don't forget they have people in HGVs that can look down into your car.
Or a certain annoying Radio 2 presenter could cycle past with his
helmet cameras.
On 28/11/2022 11:40, MB wrote:
On 28/11/2022 10:44, SH wrote:
NB NOT recommended for reading or writing text messages due to the
amount of concentration needed! But hands free telephony is supported
and as far as I know, that is road legal.
I don't think it is specifically "road legal" but if a police officer
says he did not think you were in full control of your car and he saw
you touching your phone ....
I am talking about touching the touch screen of the In carYes, Android CarPlay etc.....
entertainment console, not the phone smartscreen!
(THE ICE can mirror the phone's display on its ICE screen!
On 27/11/2022 19:22, Woody wrote:
On Sun 27/11/2022 18:39, SH wrote:
On 27/11/2022 18:14, MB wrote:
On 27/11/2022 16:14, Scott wrote:
Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
Not very helpful to peopl who want to listen to the RADIO in the car
etc.
it is if you have a 4g router to Wifi in the car.........
And how many in-car systems have wi-fi capability let alone some app
to run that would provide a something similar to a car radio?
My hum,ble VW Golf Mk7 has a factory fitted WiFi enabled entertainment console.... turn on the hotspot on my 4g smartphone and then my my
factory fitted entertainment console can access spotify, BBC sounds etc..
Can also do it via bluetooth from my Smartphone using the spotify, BBC
sounds apps etc
PLUS you don't have to pay to listen to a radio, but using 4G for
several hours of listening on a long journey could get very expensive.
Not if you have a Smarty 4g/5g SIM from
https://smarty.co.uk/sim-only/#plans
30GB / month at £10 / month gets you a serious load of music!
There is unlimited for £20 a month, a fiver a week.
On Sun 27/11/2022 17:25, Max Demian wrote:If it's already "gone off" I don't see how it matters when it was
On 27/11/2022 16:33, Tweed wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
198 UK (4 transmitters)
The BBC should just tell the government that they will only
continue on
Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to
complete DAB coverage.
How does that work in the car?
Everyone has Internet access everywhere, didn't you know? This is how
people can access parking apps to pay for parking now there aren't any
coin machines. Do keep up!
SOT: I found out yesterday that you can in effect be penalised if you
don't pay by card, i.e. you use cash.
Bought some long like milk from a German supermarket about ten days ago,
all dated for 5 Dec. Yesterday we found the fourth (of six) bottles had curdled. The remaining two were also off. I went to the store and
because I couldn't produce a receipt (for a cash transaction!) of ten
days ago they were not interested unless I could tell them the time and
day I bought the milk. Who keeps a receipt for a small cash transaction
for (in theory) three weeks in case something goes wrong?They didn't
answer that question.)
On the other hand if I had paid cashless they would be able to
back-trace the card number I used and would resolve the issue.
On 27/11/2022 19:19, Woody wrote:
On Sun 27/11/2022 17:25, Max Demian wrote:If it's already "gone off" I don't see how it matters when it was
On 27/11/2022 16:33, Tweed wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
198 UK (4 transmitters)
The BBC should just tell the government that they will only
continue on
Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to
complete DAB coverage.
How does that work in the car?
Everyone has Internet access everywhere, didn't you know? This is how
people can access parking apps to pay for parking now there aren't
any coin machines. Do keep up!
SOT: I found out yesterday that you can in effect be penalised if you
don't pay by card, i.e. you use cash.
Bought some long like milk from a German supermarket about ten days
ago, all dated for 5 Dec. Yesterday we found the fourth (of six)
bottles had curdled. The remaining two were also off. I went to the
store and because I couldn't produce a receipt (for a cash
transaction!) of ten days ago they were not interested unless I could
tell them the time and day I bought the milk. Who keeps a receipt for
a small cash transaction for (in theory) three weeks in case something
goes wrong?They didn't answer that question.)
On the other hand if I had paid cashless they would be able to
back-trace the card number I used and would resolve the issue.
bought. I suppose they might claim you haven't stored it in the fridge
since you bought it, but a receipt won't show that.
I found in the summer that milk and cream often went off before the "use
by" date: presumably it wasn't transported and stored at the correct temperature. Perhaps the delivery was left in the Sun before it was
taken in.
On 27/11/2022 19:12, Woody wrote:
How does a leaky feeder Tx work at LF anyway ?
Technically I wouldn't call that a broadcast site, more like a
repeater or filler.
and its Dartford.....
Technically I wouldn't call that a broadcast site, more like a
repeater or filler.
and its Dartford.....
On 28/11/2022 10:16, MB wrote:Rozzer? I thought I was the king of archaic slang! What's a young lad like you doing using such expressions?
There is also the risk of prosecution if you touch the phone to change station.If you have a rozzer sat in the car with you, I suppose there is. (I'm
not condoling the practice BTW)
On Mon 28/11/2022 16:55, Mark Carver wrote:I've never been able to find out how the tunnel leaky feeder systems
On 27/11/2022 19:12, Woody wrote:
How does a leaky feeder Tx work at LF anyway ?
Technically I wouldn't call that a broadcast site, more like a
repeater or filler.
and its Dartford.....
From what I used to know about such (and I dealt with a few!) the
answer is not very well.
On 28/11/2022 16:59, Woody wrote:
On Mon 28/11/2022 16:55, Mark Carver wrote:I've never been able to find out how the tunnel leaky feeder systems
On 27/11/2022 19:12, Woody wrote:
How does a leaky feeder Tx work at LF anyway ?
Technically I wouldn't call that a broadcast site, more like a
repeater or filler.
and its Dartford.....
From what I used to know about such (and I dealt with a few!) the
answer is not very well.
work in the UK.
I've heard it said some have the facility to replace all the stations
they are relaying with an emergency announcement, and also overwrite the
RDS streams with the emergency flag, for obvious reasons.
I just can't imagine it. All I can imagine in the UK are some wideband transposers taking in everything receivable on LW, MW, and FM and
blasting them into a leaky feeder, hoping for the best. Housed in a rack
in the back of some rat invested damp plant room ?
I just can't imagine it. All I can imagine in the UK are some wideband transposers taking in everything receivable on LW, MW, and FM and
blasting them into a leaky feeder, hoping for the best. Housed in a rack
in the back of some rat invested damp plant room ?
On 28/11/2022 16:59, Woody wrote:
On Mon 28/11/2022 16:55, Mark Carver wrote:
On 27/11/2022 19:12, Woody wrote:
How does a leaky feeder Tx work at LF anyway ?
Technically I wouldn't call that a broadcast site, more like a
repeater or filler.
and its Dartford.....
From what I used to know about such (and I dealt with a few!) theI've never been able to find out how the tunnel leaky feeder systems
answer is not very well.
work in the UK.
I've heard it said some have the facility to replace all the stations
they are relaying with an emergency announcement, and also overwrite the
RDS streams with the emergency flag, for obvious reasons.
I just can't imagine it. All I can imagine in the UK are some wideband transposers taking in everything receivable on LW, MW, and FM and
blasting them into a leaky feeder, hoping for the best. Housed in a rack
in the back of some rat invested damp plant room ?
On 28/11/2022 16:59, Woody wrote:
On Mon 28/11/2022 16:55, Mark Carver wrote:I've never been able to find out how the tunnel leaky feeder systems
On 27/11/2022 19:12, Woody wrote:
How does a leaky feeder Tx work at LF anyway ?
Technically I wouldn't call that a broadcast site, more like a
repeater or filler.
and its Dartford.....
From what I used to know about such (and I dealt with a few!) the
answer is not very well.
work in the UK.
I've heard it said some have the facility to replace all the stations
they are relaying with an emergency announcement, and also overwrite the
RDS streams with the emergency flag, for obvious reasons.
I just can't imagine it. All I can imagine in the UK are some wideband transposers taking in everything receivable on LW, MW, and FM and
blasting them into a leaky feeder, hoping for the best. Housed in a rack
in the back of some rat invested damp plant room ?
On 28/11/2022 18:25, Mark Carver wrote:
On 28/11/2022 16:59, Woody wrote:
On Mon 28/11/2022 16:55, Mark Carver wrote:I've never been able to find out how the tunnel leaky feeder systems
On 27/11/2022 19:12, Woody wrote:
How does a leaky feeder Tx work at LF anyway ?
Technically I wouldn't call that a broadcast site, more like a
repeater or filler.
and its Dartford.....
From what I used to know about such (and I dealt with a few!) the
answer is not very well.
work in the UK.
I've heard it said some have the facility to replace all the stations
they are relaying with an emergency announcement, and also overwrite
the RDS streams with the emergency flag, for obvious reasons.
I just can't imagine it. All I can imagine in the UK are some wideband
transposers taking in everything receivable on LW, MW, and FM and
blasting them into a leaky feeder, hoping for the best. Housed in a
rack in the back of some rat invested damp plant room ?
According to TfL in Blackwall:
"The leaky feeder is a coaxial cable with sections of the outer
screening removed at regular intervals so that the radio signals can “leak” from he cable.
The primary purpose of the system is to provide radio coverage in the
event of an incident in order to inform the general public via mobile
phone coverage and radio channels. The radio systems primary purpose is
to broadcast evacuation messages in the event of an emergency."
https://tfl.gov.uk/corporate/transparency/freedom-of-information/foi-request-detail?referenceId=FOI-0045-1920
And IME it results in piss poor reception for FM, especially in the Northbound tunnel
On 27/11/2022 18:14, MB wrote:
On 27/11/2022 16:14, Scott wrote:
Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
Not very helpful to peopl who want to listen to the RADIO in the car
etc.
it is if you have a 4g router to Wifi in the car.........
In terms of*radio* the advantage of DAB(+) is akin to that of DVB. It
makes more stations easily available at relatively low cost/bother.
On Mon 28/11/2022 16:55, Mark Carver wrote:
On 27/11/2022 19:12, Woody wrote:
How does a leaky feeder Tx work at LF anyway ?
Technically I wouldn't call that a broadcast site, more like a
repeater or filler.
and its Dartford.....
From what I used to know about such (and I dealt with a few!) the
answer is not very well.
On 28/11/2022 16:59, Woody wrote:
On Mon 28/11/2022 16:55, Mark Carver wrote:
On 27/11/2022 19:12, Woody wrote:
How does a leaky feeder Tx work at LF anyway ?
Technically I wouldn't call that a broadcast site, more like a
repeater or filler.
and its Dartford.....
From what I used to know about such (and I dealt with a few!) theI've never been able to find out how the tunnel leaky feeder systems
answer is not very well.
work in the UK.
I've heard it said some have the facility to replace all the stations
they are relaying with an emergency announcement, and also overwrite the
RDS streams with the emergency flag, for obvious reasons.
I just can't imagine it. All I can imagine in the UK are some wideband transposers taking in everything receivable on LW, MW, and FM and
blasting them into a leaky feeder, hoping for the best. Housed in a rack
in the back of some rat invested damp plant room ?
In article <tm2pdb$20k2q$3@dont-email.me>, Woody
<harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
On Mon 28/11/2022 16:55, Mark Carver wrote:
On 27/11/2022 19:12, Woody wrote:
How does a leaky feeder Tx work at LF anyway ?
Technically I wouldn't call that a broadcast site, more like a
repeater or filler.
and its Dartford.....
From what I used to know about such (and I dealt with a few!) the
answer is not very well.
I'd guess it *could* be made more efficient by loading it to make it resonant. But no doubt the internal losses also go up. What kind of power
do they poke into them?
On Tue 29/11/2022 09:47, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article <tm2pdb$20k2q$3@dont-email.me>, Woody
<harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
On Mon 28/11/2022 16:55, Mark Carver wrote:
On 27/11/2022 19:12, Woody wrote:
How does a leaky feeder Tx work at LF anyway ?
Technically I wouldn't call that a broadcast site, more like a
repeater or filler.
and its Dartford.....
From what I used to know about such (and I dealt with a few!) the
answer is not very well.
I'd guess it *could* be made more efficient by loading it to make it
resonant. But no doubt the internal losses also go up. What kind of
power
do they poke into them?
At Dartford, 4W
On 28/11/2022 10:33, Mark Carver wrote:
If you have a rozzer sat in the car with you, I suppose there is. (I'm
not condoling the practice BTW)
Just need police driving past and say he saw you touch your phone -
don't forget they have people in HGVs that can look down into your car.
Or a certain annoying Radio 2 presenter could cycle past with his helmet >cameras.
On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 10:33:29 UTC, Mark Carver wrote:
If you have a rozzer sat in the car with you, I suppose there is. (I'm
not condoling the practice BTW)
Rozzer? I thought I was the king of archaic slang! What's a young lad like you doing using such expressions?
On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 09:43:02 -0800 (PST), wrightsaerials@aol.com ><wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 10:33:29 UTC, Mark Carver wrote:
If you have a rozzer sat in the car with you, I suppose there is. (I'm
not condoling the practice BTW)
Rozzer? I thought I was the king of archaic slang! What's a young lad like you doing using such expressions?
James May used it a few years ago on TG - "Cripes, it's the Albanian rozzers" and
he's about the same age as us.
(Of course there are no Albanian rozzers any more, as they're all over here (allegedly).)
On Thu, 01 Dec 2022 13:13:04 GMT, Paul Ratcliffe
<abuse@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78> wrote:
On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 09:43:02 -0800 (PST), wrightsaerials@aol.com >><wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 10:33:29 UTC, Mark Carver wrote:
If you have a rozzer sat in the car with you, I suppose there is. (I'm >>>> not condoling the practice BTW)
Rozzer? I thought I was the king of archaic slang! What's a young lad like you doing using such expressions?
James May used it a few years ago on TG - "Cripes, it's the Albanian rozzers" and
he's about the same age as us.
(Of course there are no Albanian rozzers any more, as they're all over here (allegedly).)
Round here (Liverpool) we call them the bizzies.
On Thu, 01 Dec 2022 13:13:04 GMT, Paul Ratcliffe <abuse@orac12.clara34.co56.uk78> wrote:I only discovered that after watching an episode of Brookside.
On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 09:43:02 -0800 (PST), wrightsaerials@aol.comRound here (Liverpool) we call them the bizzies.
<wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
On Monday, 28 November 2022 at 10:33:29 UTC, Mark Carver wrote:James May used it a few years ago on TG - "Cripes, it's the Albanian rozzers" and
If you have a rozzer sat in the car with you, I suppose there is. (I'm >>>> not condoling the practice BTW)Rozzer? I thought I was the king of archaic slang! What's a young lad like you doing using such expressions?
he's about the same age as us.
(Of course there are no Albanian rozzers any more, as they're all over here (allegedly).)
And you were only watching it because it was the first day of Channel Four and you wanted to see what the reception was like, since it was transmitted at an unfeasibly high frequency in your area.Round here (Liverpool) we call them the bizzies.I only discovered that after watching an episode of Brookside.
Round here (Liverpool) we call them the bizzies.
On Thursday, 1 December 2022 at 18:27:49 UTC, Mark Carver wrote:Ha, well indeed it was, though on C4's opening day I was away living as
And you were only watching it because it was the first day of Channel Four and you wanted to see what the reception was like, since it was transmitted at an unfeasibly high frequency in your area.Round here (Liverpool) we call them the bizzies.I only discovered that after watching an episode of Brookside.
On Wed 19/10/2022 18:37, MB wrote:
Have you ever heard the VHF network running on RBS up the country!
Oh yes, and its tested at least once every year, usually around this
time of year IMSMC.
On Sun, 27 Nov 2022 08:47:50 +0000, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 26/11/2022 23:28, Rink wrote:Some might say they should scrap DAB and focus on BBC Sounds.
198 UK (4 transmitters)
The BBC should just tell the government that they will only continue on >>Long Wave if fully funded by government and use the money save to
complete DAB coverage.
Have you ever heard the VHF network running on RBS up the country!
If they switched to mono (ie. no stereo pilot tone or subcarrier) I
would expect the audio output to be adequate even at more distant transmitters, but RDS data sent via RBS would likely be unreliable.
It happened on Nov 2nd this yearOh yes, and its tested at least once every year, usually around thisThey do? Any dates?
time of year IMSMC.
If they switched to mono (ie. no stereo pilot tone or subcarrier) I
would expect the audio output to be adequate even at more distant transmitters, but RDS data sent via RBS would likely be unreliable.
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