AFAICR without checking - awkward ATM because my XP laptop is closed with a
scanner on top of it and piles of old family letters on my desk which I don't want to disturb - XP had a firewall, 2k did not.
On 04/10/2022 22:16, Jeff Gaines wrote:
On 04/10/2022 in message <jq3dptF2mgbU1@mid.individual.net> Andy Burns
wrote:
I guess I could attempt to uninstall Kaspersky entirely (BTW what
program is recommended these days?)
I would uninstall, I've used only microsoft defender for several years.
+1 to that, I've only ever used whatever MSFT provides since Windows 3.1.
MS did not provide anything with Win 3.1. You had to wait until XP to
get *some* protection (it was only an anti spyware package at this
point). Microsoft security essentials added full AV protection as well
but that was into the Vista / Win 7 era. Win XP shipped without even
having a firewall.
I don't think you even got TCP/IP neworking with Windows 3.1. I can't >remember the exact details but I downloaded something from an FTP site
and also installed an upgrade pack to Windows 3.11 which had some
extra networking stuff, so one or both of those would have been
necessary to connect to the internet at all.
On 05/10/2022 in message <gfuqjh5mhb15n3iiihg0342cggq52kh7jg@4ax.com> >Roderick Stewart wrote:
I don't think you even got TCP/IP neworking with Windows 3.1. I can't >>remember the exact details but I downloaded something from an FTP site
and also installed an upgrade pack to Windows 3.11 which had some
extra networking stuff, so one or both of those would have been
necessary to connect to the internet at all.
Trumpet Winsock, you needed to download it from a remote Australian
location with only one telephone line according to folk lore.
The good thing about WP5.1 was that you could solve crosswords with it
by entering the letters of a word and putting ?'s for the letters you
don't know - it would come up with a list of suitable words. Cracked
many DT crosswords that way!
Other problem is that most people think that a word processor app is
just a one-to-one replacement for a typewriter.
Other problem is that most people think that a word processor app is just a >one-to-one replacement for a typewriter. So they press return twice for a new >paragraph, do all the heading formatting (point size, bold, etc), by hand. >I've even had people do multi-column layout by hand (in PageMaker, FFS) using >tabs and spaces, so that if you made a column wider or narrower, then the >entire layout collapsed.
On 8 Oct 2022 09:48:56 GMT, Tim Streater <timstreater@greenbee.net>
wrote:
Other problem is that most people think that a word processor app is just a >> one-to-one replacement for a typewriter. So they press return twice for a new
paragraph, do all the heading formatting (point size, bold, etc), by hand. >> I've even had people do multi-column layout by hand (in PageMaker, FFS) using
tabs and spaces, so that if you made a column wider or narrower, then the
entire layout collapsed.
Sometimes when explaining something to a PC user on the phone I've had
cause to instruct them to enter some text by typing it and then
pressing the return key, to be met with a long silence followed by
"Which one is the return key?". If I then suggest that they might know
it as the enter key, and that it might be labelled "Enter" on their
keyboard, they'd often still be mystified and I'd have to describe the
little arow symbol and roughly where to look on the keyboard. It made
me wonder how they were managing to do anything with their computers
other than mouseclicking things on web pages. Maybe that's all that
most people do.
I don't think you even got TCP/IP neworking with Windows 3.1.
I downloaded something from an FTP site
and also installed an upgrade pack to Windows 3.11 which had some
extra networking stuff, so one or both of those would have been
necessary to connect to the internet at all.
On Fri, 7 Oct 2022 19:03:40 +0100, Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com>
wrote:
The good thing about WP5.1 was that you could solve crosswords with it
by entering the letters of a word and putting ?'s for the letters you
don't know - it would come up with a list of suitable words. Cracked
many DT crosswords that way!
I stil use the CD version of the Oxford English Dictionary (no longer >published as far as I know), and its search function can use wild
cards too, as could a DOS wordprocessor called Protext, originally
offered for Amstrad computers but later available for PCs.
It always struck me as such a useful function that it's a shame the
OED is no longer published like this. Conventional printed
dictionaries can only show words alphabetically according to how they
begin, but groups of words are often related by having the same
endings, or containing the same sequence of letters within them, and
it can sometimes be helpful to see them grouped in this way.
On Wed, 05 Oct 2022 13:39:43 +0100, Roderick Stewart <rj...@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:Thanks for the best share have a look at https://opautoclicker.dev/
I don't think you even got TCP/IP neworking with Windows 3.1.
You didn't. Netbeui (Netbios) only.
I downloaded something from an FTP site
<snigger>
How did you do that without an IP stack?
I expect you mean you downloaded it from a BBS.
and also installed an upgrade pack to Windows 3.11 which had some
extra networking stuff, so one or both of those would have been
necessary to connect to the internet at all.
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