• Re: Can one get ITV Hub and/or All 4 on a Freeview box, if so how?

    From Robin@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Fri Sep 30 09:45:35 2022
    On 30/09/2022 09:18, Chris Green wrote:
    We have a pretty standard FreeView installation, a Humax box (with a
    good fast internet connection) with an (oldish) LG TV.

    If we press the "TV Portal" button on the remote we get BBC iPlayer
    but not ITV Hub or All 4 or anything else like that. Have we somehow 'removed' them or is it not possible to get these on FreeView? ... or
    is there anything else we need to do to get them?


    Some Humax boxes (and other devices) lost the ITV Hub this week. If
    yours is one of them then it's permanent.

    https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/itv-hub-removed-samsung-tvs/



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  • From Wilf@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Fri Sep 30 09:55:27 2022
    On 30/09/2022 at 09:18, Chris Green wrote:
    We have a pretty standard FreeView installation, a Humax box (with a
    good fast internet connection) with an (oldish) LG TV.

    If we press the "TV Portal" button on the remote we get BBC iPlayer
    but not ITV Hub or All 4 or anything else like that. Have we somehow 'removed' them or is it not possible to get these on FreeView? ... or
    is there anything else we need to do to get them?


    The Manhattan T3-R Freeview recorder box gets iPlayer, ITV Hub, All 4,
    and Ch 5 player. And a few others. Selecting an item from the previous
    week on the Guide will take you to that programme on the relevant player.
    --
    Wilf

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Fri Sep 30 09:56:25 2022
    Depends whether those services has bothered to write an app to run on your
    box.
    Brian

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    "Chris Green" <cl@isbd.net> wrote in message news:8cli0j-orof.ln1@esprimo.zbmc.eu...
    We have a pretty standard FreeView installation, a Humax box (with a
    good fast internet connection) with an (oldish) LG TV.

    If we press the "TV Portal" button on the remote we get BBC iPlayer
    but not ITV Hub or All 4 or anything else like that. Have we somehow 'removed' them or is it not possible to get these on FreeView? ... or
    is there anything else we need to do to get them?

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 30 09:59:45 2022
    I never did fathom the logic of restricting your market by not making the modest investment in updating apps for popular devices, They will be playing right into the hands of Amazons fire stick range of plug in USB or whatever devices. If all these sites could get together and agree on the same way of working a universal app could be produced, surely?
    Brian

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    "Robin" <rbw@outlook.com> wrote in message news:bc68bca2-5c25-08f8-db0b-74bc0be7e7ac@outlook.com...
    On 30/09/2022 09:18, Chris Green wrote:
    We have a pretty standard FreeView installation, a Humax box (with a
    good fast internet connection) with an (oldish) LG TV.

    If we press the "TV Portal" button on the remote we get BBC iPlayer
    but not ITV Hub or All 4 or anything else like that. Have we somehow
    'removed' them or is it not possible to get these on FreeView? ... or
    is there anything else we need to do to get them?


    Some Humax boxes (and other devices) lost the ITV Hub this week. If yours
    is one of them then it's permanent.

    https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/itv-hub-removed-samsung-tvs/



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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 30 09:18:48 2022
    We have a pretty standard FreeView installation, a Humax box (with a
    good fast internet connection) with an (oldish) LG TV.

    If we press the "TV Portal" button on the remote we get BBC iPlayer
    but not ITV Hub or All 4 or anything else like that. Have we somehow
    'removed' them or is it not possible to get these on FreeView? ... or
    is there anything else we need to do to get them?

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Fri Sep 30 10:28:00 2022
    Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
    "Chris Green" <cl@isbd.net> wrote in message news:8cli0j-orof.ln1@esprimo.zbmc.eu...
    We have a pretty standard FreeView installation, a Humax box (with a
    good fast internet connection) with an (oldish) LG TV.

    If we press the "TV Portal" button on the remote we get BBC iPlayer
    but not ITV Hub or All 4 or anything else like that. Have we somehow 'removed' them or is it not possible to get these on FreeView? ... or
    is there anything else we need to do to get them?

    Depends whether those services has bothered to write an app to run on your box.

    OK, but how would I know if they have written an app and do I have to
    do anything to 'install' it or should it just appear?

    --
    Chris Green
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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to Robin on Fri Sep 30 10:25:45 2022
    Robin <rbw@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 30/09/2022 09:18, Chris Green wrote:
    We have a pretty standard FreeView installation, a Humax box (with a
    good fast internet connection) with an (oldish) LG TV.

    If we press the "TV Portal" button on the remote we get BBC iPlayer
    but not ITV Hub or All 4 or anything else like that. Have we somehow 'removed' them or is it not possible to get these on FreeView? ... or
    is there anything else we need to do to get them?


    Some Humax boxes (and other devices) lost the ITV Hub this week. If
    yours is one of them then it's permanent.

    https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/itv-hub-removed-samsung-tvs/

    Yes, when I searched I found those reports, but I don't think we've
    ever had ITV Hub or All 4 or anything other than BBC iPlayer.

    --
    Chris Green
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  • From alan_m@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Fri Sep 30 10:39:22 2022
    On 30/09/2022 09:59, Brian Gaff wrote:
    I never did fathom the logic of restricting your market by not making the modest investment in updating apps for popular devices, They will be playing right into the hands of Amazons fire stick range of plug in USB or whatever devices. If all these sites could get together and agree on the same way of working a universal app could be produced, surely?

    Most of these types of things stop working because the broadcasters
    cannot resist the temptation to constantly change. Never buy a TV or STB
    based solely on the "smart" functions which may fail to work after a
    year or so.

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Fri Sep 30 11:52:05 2022
    On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 10:25:45 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    Robin <rbw@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 30/09/2022 09:18, Chris Green wrote:
    We have a pretty standard FreeView installation, a Humax box (with a
    good fast internet connection) with an (oldish) LG TV.

    If we press the "TV Portal" button on the remote we get BBC iPlayer
    but not ITV Hub or All 4 or anything else like that. Have we somehow
    'removed' them or is it not possible to get these on FreeView? ... or
    is there anything else we need to do to get them?


    Some Humax boxes (and other devices) lost the ITV Hub this week. If
    yours is one of them then it's permanent.

    https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/itv-hub-removed-samsung-tvs/

    Yes, when I searched I found those reports, but I don't think we've
    ever had ITV Hub or All 4 or anything other than BBC iPlayer.

    We have more than that with an old Humax Freesat box. Have you tried doing an update?
    --

    Martin in Zuid Holland

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Fri Sep 30 11:53:33 2022
    On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 10:28:00 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
    "Chris Green" <cl@isbd.net> wrote in message
    news:8cli0j-orof.ln1@esprimo.zbmc.eu...
    We have a pretty standard FreeView installation, a Humax box (with a
    good fast internet connection) with an (oldish) LG TV.

    If we press the "TV Portal" button on the remote we get BBC iPlayer
    but not ITV Hub or All 4 or anything else like that. Have we somehow
    'removed' them or is it not possible to get these on FreeView? ... or
    is there anything else we need to do to get them?

    Depends whether those services has bothered to write an app to run on your >> box.

    OK, but how would I know if they have written an app and do I have to
    do anything to 'install' it or should it just appear?

    Do an update on your box.
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  • From Robin@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Fri Sep 30 11:58:26 2022
    On 30/09/2022 10:25, Chris Green wrote:
    Robin <rbw@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 30/09/2022 09:18, Chris Green wrote:
    We have a pretty standard FreeView installation, a Humax box (with a
    good fast internet connection) with an (oldish) LG TV.

    If we press the "TV Portal" button on the remote we get BBC iPlayer
    but not ITV Hub or All 4 or anything else like that. Have we somehow
    'removed' them or is it not possible to get these on FreeView? ... or
    is there anything else we need to do to get them?


    Some Humax boxes (and other devices) lost the ITV Hub this week. If
    yours is one of them then it's permanent.

    https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/itv-hub-removed-samsung-tvs/

    Yes, when I searched I found those reports, but I don't think we've
    ever had ITV Hub or All 4 or anything other than BBC iPlayer.


    What is the make and model of your Humax box? And - just in case - the
    model of your LG TV?

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  • From Roderick Stewart@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Fri Sep 30 11:56:30 2022
    On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 09:18:48 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    We have a pretty standard FreeView installation, a Humax box (with a
    good fast internet connection) with an (oldish) LG TV.

    If we press the "TV Portal" button on the remote we get BBC iPlayer
    but not ITV Hub or All 4 or anything else like that. Have we somehow >'removed' them or is it not possible to get these on FreeView? ... or
    is there anything else we need to do to get them?

    Just get an Amazon stick and you'll have none of this nonsense. It's a streaming device designed for streaming, not an afterthought feature
    of something else, and is updated at least once per week. There's a
    price reduction of some Amazon gadgets at the moment, and the most
    basic Fire TV stick is only 25 quid.

    Rod.

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to Martin on Fri Sep 30 12:08:01 2022
    On 30/09/2022 10:53, Martin wrote:
    On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 10:28:00 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
    "Chris Green" <cl@isbd.net> wrote in message
    news:8cli0j-orof.ln1@esprimo.zbmc.eu...
    We have a pretty standard FreeView installation, a Humax box (with a
    good fast internet connection) with an (oldish) LG TV.

    If we press the "TV Portal" button on the remote we get BBC iPlayer
    but not ITV Hub or All 4 or anything else like that. Have we somehow
    'removed' them or is it not possible to get these on FreeView? ... or >>>> is there anything else we need to do to get them?

    Depends whether those services has bothered to write an app to run on your >>> box.

    OK, but how would I know if they have written an app and do I have to
    do anything to 'install' it or should it just appear?

    Do an update on your box.



    And is there an App Store on the Humax? if so browse that?

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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to Robin on Fri Sep 30 12:59:06 2022
    Robin <rbw@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 30/09/2022 10:25, Chris Green wrote:
    Robin <rbw@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 30/09/2022 09:18, Chris Green wrote:
    We have a pretty standard FreeView installation, a Humax box (with a
    good fast internet connection) with an (oldish) LG TV.

    If we press the "TV Portal" button on the remote we get BBC iPlayer
    but not ITV Hub or All 4 or anything else like that. Have we somehow
    'removed' them or is it not possible to get these on FreeView? ... or >>> is there anything else we need to do to get them?


    Some Humax boxes (and other devices) lost the ITV Hub this week. If
    yours is one of them then it's permanent.

    https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/itv-hub-removed-samsung-tvs/

    Yes, when I searched I found those reports, but I don't think we've
    ever had ITV Hub or All 4 or anything other than BBC iPlayer.


    What is the make and model of your Humax box? And - just in case - the
    model of your LG TV?

    Well, strangely enough, the make is Humax! :-)

    The model is: HDR-2000T 1TB WD

    The television is an LG 47LG6000.

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  • From Robin@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Fri Sep 30 13:16:42 2022
    On 30/09/2022 12:59, Chris Green wrote:
    Robin <rbw@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 30/09/2022 10:25, Chris Green wrote:
    Robin <rbw@outlook.com> wrote:
    On 30/09/2022 09:18, Chris Green wrote:
    We have a pretty standard FreeView installation, a Humax box (with a >>>>> good fast internet connection) with an (oldish) LG TV.

    If we press the "TV Portal" button on the remote we get BBC iPlayer
    but not ITV Hub or All 4 or anything else like that. Have we somehow >>>>> 'removed' them or is it not possible to get these on FreeView? ... or >>>>> is there anything else we need to do to get them?


    Some Humax boxes (and other devices) lost the ITV Hub this week. If
    yours is one of them then it's permanent.

    https://www.cordbusters.co.uk/itv-hub-removed-samsung-tvs/

    Yes, when I searched I found those reports, but I don't think we've
    ever had ITV Hub or All 4 or anything other than BBC iPlayer.


    What is the make and model of your Humax box? And - just in case - the
    model of your LG TV?

    Well, strangely enough, the make is Humax! :-)

    Good grief, I'd better wear my trousers rolled (and check I'm wearing
    some before going out).

    The model is: HDR-2000T 1TB WD

    I think that never had the ITV hub.

    The television is an LG 47LG6000.


    Looks like you'll need a new device. But may be worth waiting for the
    launch of the new ITV streaming service so you can check that straight
    away that anything you buy works with it.
    --
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  • From Chris Green@21:1/5 to Roderick Stewart on Fri Sep 30 13:45:15 2022
    Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
    On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 09:18:48 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    We have a pretty standard FreeView installation, a Humax box (with a
    good fast internet connection) with an (oldish) LG TV.

    If we press the "TV Portal" button on the remote we get BBC iPlayer
    but not ITV Hub or All 4 or anything else like that. Have we somehow >'removed' them or is it not possible to get these on FreeView? ... or
    is there anything else we need to do to get them?

    Just get an Amazon stick and you'll have none of this nonsense. It's a streaming device designed for streaming, not an afterthought feature
    of something else, and is updated at least once per week. There's a
    price reduction of some Amazon gadgets at the moment, and the most
    basic Fire TV stick is only 25 quid.

    We already have a Fire TV stick and the interface is so awful we gave
    up using it. I.e how do you turn it on, how do you turn it off, how
    do you tell whether it's on (or not), etc.

    I will dig it out and have another play with it.

    --
    Chris Green
    ยท

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to Chris Green on Fri Sep 30 15:11:43 2022
    On 30/09/2022 13:45, Chris Green wrote:
    Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
    On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 09:18:48 +0100, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:

    We have a pretty standard FreeView installation, a Humax box (with a
    good fast internet connection) with an (oldish) LG TV.

    If we press the "TV Portal" button on the remote we get BBC iPlayer
    but not ITV Hub or All 4 or anything else like that. Have we somehow
    'removed' them or is it not possible to get these on FreeView? ... or
    is there anything else we need to do to get them?

    Just get an Amazon stick and you'll have none of this nonsense. It's a
    streaming device designed for streaming, not an afterthought feature
    of something else, and is updated at least once per week. There's a
    price reduction of some Amazon gadgets at the moment, and the most
    basic Fire TV stick is only 25 quid.

    We already have a Fire TV stick and the interface is so awful we gave
    up using it. I.e how do you turn it on, how do you turn it off, how
    do you tell whether it's on (or not), etc.

    I will dig it out and have another play with it.


    Agree that FIrestick's UI is awful...

    Take a look at Roku, we have these now on all of our tellys

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  • From pinnerite@21:1/5 to junk@admac.myzen.co.uk on Fri Sep 30 20:13:00 2022
    On Fri, 30 Sep 2022 10:39:22 +0100
    alan_m <junk@admac.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    On 30/09/2022 09:59, Brian Gaff wrote:
    I never did fathom the logic of restricting your market by not making the modest investment in updating apps for popular devices, They will be playing
    right into the hands of Amazons fire stick range of plug in USB or whatever devices. If all these sites could get together and agree on the same way of working a universal app could be produced, surely?

    Most of these types of things stop working because the broadcasters
    cannot resist the temptation to constantly change. Never buy a TV or STB based solely on the "smart" functions which may fail to work after a
    year or so.

    --
    mailto : news {at} admac {dot} myzen {dot} co {dot} uk



    There is an open source package called MythTV.

    I have been running it from my desktop Linux PC for many years.
    About six years ago with the arrival of an HD smart TV I decided to
    invest in a dedicated computer. I built it from scratch, adding a TBS
    DVB-T2 TV signal collection card.

    I am explaining this because apart from being able to receive broadcast programmes and record those I select, I can use one or t'other browser
    to access NetFlix, BBC iplayer and ITV Hub among many others.

    The thing is apart from the hardware, it is all free and updated by
    masses of contributors. It is available for Windows but an .exe is not provided. You have to build it yourself.

    Instructions are very detailed and patience helps (I wasn't so it took
    longer).

    It beats being dependent on some bright spark that thinks change =
    progress.

    If you have a not too old pc doing nothing ....

    Best of luck.



    --
    Mint 20.3, kernel 5.4.0-124-generic, Cinnamon 5.2.7
    running on an AMD Phenom II X4 Black edition processor with 16GB of
    DRAM.

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  • From David Paste@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 1 14:52:24 2022
    On Friday, 30 September 2022 at 15:11:46 UTC+1, SH wrote:

    Agree that FIrestick's UI is awful...

    Take a look at Roku, we have these now on all of our tellys

    My experience, too. Roku is good.

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  • From Roderick Stewart@21:1/5 to pastedavid@gmail.com on Sun Oct 2 11:01:53 2022
    On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 14:52:24 -0700 (PDT), David Paste
    <pastedavid@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, 30 September 2022 at 15:11:46 UTC+1, SH wrote:

    Agree that FIrestick's UI is awful...

    Take a look at Roku, we have these now on all of our tellys

    My experience, too. Roku is good.

    I've just had a look at Roku. It seems the only one that can be
    connected using ethernet is the expensive one that includes a
    loudspeaker, which I wouldn't want. The others can only be connected
    via wireless. They may be wonderful but wouldn't fit easily into my
    system, so for now I'll just keep what I've got.

    Rod.

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  • From Bob Latham@21:1/5 to Roderick Stewart on Sun Oct 2 11:29:32 2022
    In article <u6oijhd4m5f3lov8tmnq45okq39q88ua0k@4ax.com>,
    Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
    On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 14:52:24 -0700 (PDT), David Paste
    <pastedavid@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, 30 September 2022 at 15:11:46 UTC+1, SH wrote:

    Agree that FIrestick's UI is awful...

    Take a look at Roku, we have these now on all of our tellys

    My experience, too. Roku is good.

    I've just had a look at Roku. It seems the only one that can be
    connected using ethernet is the expensive one that includes a
    loudspeaker, which I wouldn't want. The others can only be connected
    via wireless. They may be wonderful but wouldn't fit easily into my
    system, so for now I'll just keep what I've got.

    I agree, I only use wi-fi for portable devices.

    But you can also connect the Roku Express 4K device using a USB to
    Ethernet adapter.

    See this
    https://support.roku.com/en-gb/article/360058027813

    I have a couple of the compatible UGREEN devices (Amazon) and they
    work fine.

    Bob.

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  • From Roderick Stewart@21:1/5 to bob@sick-of-spam.invalid on Sun Oct 2 13:55:11 2022
    On Sun, 02 Oct 2022 11:29:32 +0100, Bob Latham
    <bob@sick-of-spam.invalid> wrote:

    In article <u6oijhd4m5f3lov8tmnq45okq39q88ua0k@4ax.com>,
    Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
    On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 14:52:24 -0700 (PDT), David Paste
    <pastedavid@gmail.com> wrote:

    On Friday, 30 September 2022 at 15:11:46 UTC+1, SH wrote:

    Agree that FIrestick's UI is awful...

    Take a look at Roku, we have these now on all of our tellys

    My experience, too. Roku is good.

    I've just had a look at Roku. It seems the only one that can be
    connected using ethernet is the expensive one that includes a
    loudspeaker, which I wouldn't want. The others can only be connected
    via wireless. They may be wonderful but wouldn't fit easily into my
    system, so for now I'll just keep what I've got.

    I agree, I only use wi-fi for portable devices.

    But you can also connect the Roku Express 4K device using a USB to
    Ethernet adapter.

    See this
    https://support.roku.com/en-gb/article/360058027813

    I have a couple of the compatible UGREEN devices (Amazon) and they
    work fine.

    Bob.

    Thanks. That wasn't clear from a cursory inspection of the Roku
    website. I might give it a bit more thought.

    Rod.

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