I watched Grand Designs tonight. It was the one about the couple who built a 'longhouse' in a remote part of Derbyshire. The building was entirely clad in metal, so inside aerials wouldn't have worked. There didn't appear to be an outside aerial ordish. The place was extremely remote so I doubt if it had fast internet. The inhabitants included two grannies, who would presumably have wanted to watch the telly now and then. But no tellys were in evidence.
The inhabitants included two grannies, who would presumably have
wanted to watch the telly now and then.
On 29/09/2022 04:29, wrightsaerials@aol.com wrote:
I watched Grand Designs tonight. It was the one about the couple whoI watched it, it didn't cross my mind, but it's a good point.
built a 'longhouse' in a remote part of Derbyshire. The building was
entirely clad in metal, so inside aerials wouldn't have worked. There
didn't appear to be an outside aerial or dish. The place was extremely
remote so I doubt if it had fast internet. The inhabitants included
two grannies, who would presumably have wanted to watch the telly now
and then. But no tellys were in evidence.
Often on Grand Designs, after all the effort and procrastination about finishes and 'look', you'll see a telly, mounted far too high up, and
with all its cables messily on display.
Same with wall lights <face palm>
The other thing that annoys about the programme, is they jump for the
stage where the place is just about water tight, to the finished and
moved in stage.
I can tell you from personal experience, a very interesting and
challenging stage happens in that gap !
On 29/09/2022 04:29, wrightsaerials@aol.com wrote:
I watched Grand Designs tonight. It was the one about the couple whoI watched it, it didn't cross my mind, but it's a good point.
built a 'longhouse' in a remote part of Derbyshire. The building was
entirely clad in metal, so inside aerials wouldn't have worked. There
didn't appear to be an outside aerial or dish. The place was extremely
remote so I doubt if it had fast internet. The inhabitants included two
grannies, who would presumably have wanted to watch the telly now and
then. But no tellys were in evidence.
Often on Grand Designs, after all the effort and procrastination about finishes and 'look', you'll see a telly, mounted far too high up, and with all its cables messily on display.
Same with wall lights <face palm>
The other thing that annoys about the programme, is they jump for the
stage where the place is just about water tight, to the finished and moved
in stage.
I can tell you from personal experience, a very interesting and
challenging stage happens in that gap !
Yes the problem is that they only have a certain time slot,and have to make it watchable. Some of the processes are as interesting as watching paint, or render dry, so they skip them.
There have been many times in shows like that you wanted to ask supplemental questions. I well remember that one on an island in the Thames that floated if the tide got too high, one wonders how much maintenance would be needed to keep that working!
On 29/09/2022 08:54, Brian Gaff wrote:
Yes the problem is that they only have a certain time slot,and have to
make
it watchable. Some of the processes are as interesting as watching
paint, or
render dry, so they skip them.
The equivalent of the Blue Peter "here is one we made earlier".
There is a lot of fakery, a friend knew someone went on one of the
programmes where they find people an "ideal home". He never had any intention of moving and sure the programme people making the programme
know that.
On Wed, 28 Sep 2022 20:29:22 -0700 (PDT)Two grannies? What are the chances? When I worked on sheltered housing the number of grannies without a TV was zero.
"wrights...@aol.com" <wrights...@f2s.com> wrote:
The inhabitants included two grannies, who would presumably haveYour presumption may be erroneous. My brother only watches 'telly' when
wanted to watch the telly now and then.
his wife does, he wouldn't bother on his own.
--
Davey.
I watched Grand Designs tonight. It was the one about the couple who built a 'longhouse' in a remote part of Derbyshire. The building was entirely clad in metal, so inside aerials wouldn't have worked. There didn't appear to be an outside aerial ordish. The place was extremely remote so I doubt if it had fast internet. The inhabitants included two grannies, who would presumably have wanted to watch the telly now and then. But no tellys were in evidence.
On 29/09/2022 04:29, wrightsaerials@aol.com wrote:dish. The place was extremely remote so I doubt if it had fast internet. The inhabitants included two grannies, who would presumably have wanted to watch the telly now and then. But no tellys were in evidence.
I watched Grand Designs tonight. It was the one about the couple who built a 'longhouse' in a remote part of Derbyshire. The building was entirely clad in metal, so inside aerials wouldn't have worked. There didn't appear to be an outside aerial or
I watched it, it didn't cross my mind, but it's a good point.
Often on Grand Designs, after all the effort and procrastination about >finishes and 'look', you'll see a telly, mounted far too high up, and
with all its cables messily on display.
Same with wall lights <face palm>
The other thing that annoys about the programme, is they jump for the
stage where the place is just about water tight, to the finished and
moved in stage.
I can tell you from personal experience, a very interesting and
challenging stage happens in that gap !
On 30/09/2022 09:09, Peter Johnson wrote:
The first few series were very much about the construction, but then
many of the techniques being used were unusual or 'experimental' (as
Kevin said), things like undefloor heating, high levels of
insullation, wiring for remote control of lighting, curtains etc, and
how many times can they show that in an interesting way? I get the
impression that what is broadcast distills the essence of what ws
filmed and that most of the work isn't seen by the cameras.
(Just watched the latest GD Australia, a house made of three domes
than cost just over double the estimate.)
Our Clerk at Works had a low opinion of architects, probably because he
had to spend a lot of time sorting out their mistakes - I think he said
he would not trust most to build a cow shed.
He said that when one came up from Head Office for a site visit, he
would make a slight detour off the A9 and show them a beautiful new
house. He would then explain that no architect was involved in its
design or build, it was built by a man who spent every day digging
ditches with his JCB.
The first few series were very much about the construction, but then
many of the techniques being used were unusual or 'experimental' (as
Kevin said), things like undefloor heating, high levels of
insullation, wiring for remote control of lighting, curtains etc, and
how many times can they show that in an interesting way? I get the
impression that what is broadcast distills the essence of what ws
filmed and that most of the work isn't seen by the cameras.
(Just watched the latest GD Australia, a house made of three domes
than cost just over double the estimate.)
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 30/09/2022 09:09, Peter Johnson wrote:My impression of most GD builds is that they end up with cavernous spaces, with hard materials everywhere and are far from being cozy comfortable
The first few series were very much about the construction, but then
many of the techniques being used were unusual or 'experimental' (as
Kevin said), things like undefloor heating, high levels of
insullation, wiring for remote control of lighting, curtains etc, and
how many times can they show that in an interesting way? I get the
impression that what is broadcast distills the essence of what ws
filmed and that most of the work isn't seen by the cameras.
(Just watched the latest GD Australia, a house made of three domes
than cost just over double the estimate.)
Our Clerk at Works had a low opinion of architects, probably because he
had to spend a lot of time sorting out their mistakes - I think he said
he would not trust most to build a cow shed.
He said that when one came up from Head Office for a site visit, he
would make a slight detour off the A9 and show them a beautiful new
house. He would then explain that no architect was involved in its
design or build, it was built by a man who spent every day digging
ditches with his JCB.
living spaces.
On 30/09/2022 09:09, Peter Johnson wrote:
The first few series were very much about the construction, but then
many of the techniques being used were unusual or 'experimental' (as
Kevin said), things like undefloor heating, high levels of
insullation, wiring for remote control of lighting, curtains etc, and
how many times can they show that in an interesting way? I get the
impression that what is broadcast distills the essence of what ws
filmed and that most of the work isn't seen by the cameras.
(Just watched the latest GD Australia, a house made of three domes
than cost just over double the estimate.)
Our Clerk at Works had a low opinion of architects, probably because
he had to spend a lot of time sorting out their mistakes - I think he
said he would not trust most to build a cow shed.
He said that when one came up from Head Office for a site visit, he
would make a slight detour off the A9 and show them a beautiful new
house. He would then explain that no architect was involved in its
design or build, it was built by a man who spent every day digging
ditches with his JCB.
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:Architects aren't actually required to know how to build what they
On 30/09/2022 09:09, Peter Johnson wrote:
The first few series were very much about the construction, but then
many of the techniques being used were unusual or 'experimental' (as
Kevin said), things like undefloor heating, high levels of
insullation, wiring for remote control of lighting, curtains etc, and
how many times can they show that in an interesting way? I get the
impression that what is broadcast distills the essence of what ws
filmed and that most of the work isn't seen by the cameras.
(Just watched the latest GD Australia, a house made of three domes
than cost just over double the estimate.)
Our Clerk at Works had a low opinion of architects, probably because he
had to spend a lot of time sorting out their mistakes - I think he said
he would not trust most to build a cow shed.
In article <th6jm8$107bu$1@dont-email.me>,
Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
The last time I used an architect to come up with a design for
anything, I took one look at his plan for the bathroom and
rejected it, on the grounds that I had no desire to stand with my
left leg in the toilet when I was at the basin cleaning my teeth.
Bah Lefties.
Bet you'd have been fine with it had it been the right in the toilet.
:-)
On 30/09/2022 10:33, Tweed wrote:
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
Our Clerk at Works had a low opinion of architects, probably because he
had to spend a lot of time sorting out their mistakes - I think he said
he would not trust most to build a cow shed.
Architects aren't actually required to know how to build what they
design, just that what they specify can be built and work as intended.
Of course some architects try to duck even that by making the builder responsible for delivering a workable result regardless of what's shown
in the plans and specifications.
My impression of most GD builds is that they end up with cavernous spaces, with hard materials everywhere and are far from being cozy comfortable
living spaces.
The last time I used an architect to come up with a design for
anything, I took one look at his plan for the bathroom and
rejected it, on the grounds that I had no desire to stand with my
left leg in the toilet when I was at the basin cleaning my teeth.
Architects aren't actually required to know how to build what they
design, just that what they specify can be built and work as intended.
On 30/09/2022 12:50, Bob Latham wrote:
In article <th6jm8$107bu$1@dont-email.me>,
Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
The last time I used an architect to come up with a design for
anything, I took one look at his plan for the bathroom and
rejected it, on the grounds that I had no desire to stand with my
left leg in the toilet when I was at the basin cleaning my teeth.
Bah Lefties.
Bet you'd have been fine with it had it been the right in the toilet.
:-)
Says the man who has claimed times beyond counting to have plonked
me, thus proving yet again what a shameless liar he is.
In article <th6lie$10csg$1@dont-email.me>,
Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
Says the man who has claimed times beyond counting to have plonked
me, thus proving yet again what a shameless liar he is.
Sense of humour failure?
I sometimes have a look in the bin in threads with no war.Which are precisely the ones that could safely be ignored, so
Depends of course what you're trying to build, but if it's a run of the
mill build with nothing revolutionary, the most useful thing about an >architect is often their relationship with the local planning dept, and >getting notification of any issues before the council publish their
verdict. I spent less than 1% of total build cost on the architect.
They only produce 5 or 6 drawings, and only one or two of those get
printed out by the builder (A3 size if you're lucky) and sellotaped to >something vertical on the site.
Get a decent builder that has good relationships with the local
architects, and also importantly with the local building control officer.
A long time ago I read, in a newspaper, that a competent builder couldI think that's probably the case.
build a straightforward extension using the building control plans and without the need for an architect.
So about ten years ago, when I wanted a straightforward extension I
followed that advice, paid a local guy for building control drawings
that the builder used to do the job. When it was completed I got a
completion certificate from BC. (It was a permitted development.)
If I was doing it now I might do it differently but at the time it was
what I wanted and I've been very satisfied with it.
And almost death traps for young children. Odd, given the wife seems to
end up pregnant before the end of the build.
Funny that, now then who's the common person in every episode ? ;-)
Isn't it a general rule that architects build houses with a view to get
an award for it from other architects. If the budget is big enough, if
not then they throw up a house as cheaply as possible.
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