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    From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 25 11:04:22 2022
    Well why not. You can record on it. There does seem to have been in recent years a concentrated push by media providers to not let you have the program content portably locally. It matters not if its radio, tv or whatever. I
    find the subscription model very limiting, since you have no media and thus cannot listen or watch it elsewhere.
    Brian

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  • From Max Demian@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Sun Sep 25 13:05:08 2022
    On 25/09/2022 11:04, Brian Gaff wrote:

    Well why not. You can record on it. There does seem to have been in recent years a concentrated push by media providers to not let you have the program content portably locally. It matters not if its radio, tv or whatever. I
    find the subscription model very limiting, since you have no media and thus cannot listen or watch it elsewhere.

    Or recordable DVD. I have a Panasonic DVD recorder with a T2 Freeview
    tuner and HDD. I record onto HDD, edit out the ads (or top and tail if
    no ads) and burn to DVD-R or DVD-RW depending on whether I think I will
    want to keep to recoding (for ever).

    For radio programmes I record them from Freeview with my Humax Fox,
    transfer them via USB stick to my laptop, edit and convert to MP3 with
    NCH WavePad, then (perhaps) upload to MP3 player or phone.

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  • From Java Jive@21:1/5 to Max Demian on Sun Sep 25 13:27:32 2022
    On 25/09/2022 13:05, Max Demian wrote:

    On 25/09/2022 11:04, Brian Gaff wrote:

    Well why not. You can record on it. There does seem to have been in
    recent years a concentrated push by media providers to not let you
    have the program content portably locally. It matters not if its
    radio, tv or whatever. I find the subscription model very limiting,
    since  you have no media and thus cannot listen or watch it elsewhere.

    Well, you can, but it depends on exactly what you want to do. For
    example, I can copy music to USB storage to listen to it in the car, and
    I can play video or music by my bedside using a cheap, second-hand
    network media player connected to a TV and/or stereo system as appropriate.

    Or recordable DVD. I have a Panasonic DVD recorder with a T2 Freeview
    tuner and HDD. I record onto HDD, edit out the ads (or top and tail if
    no ads) and burn to DVD-R or DVD-RW depending on whether I think I will
    want to keep to recoding (for ever).

    For radio programmes I record them from Freeview with my Humax Fox,
    transfer them via USB stick to my laptop, edit and convert to MP3 with
    NCH WavePad, then (perhaps) upload to MP3 player or phone.

    Or better still, just a hard disk with an ongoing backup system to other
    hard disks. My entire media library has been on NAS for years now, why
    the need for less reliable means of storage such as tape or CD/DVD? I
    can play VHSs, CDs, DVDs, MDs, ACs, LPs, etc, all without ever needing
    to touch the original media, which are packed away in boxes, and I can
    record anything new I want using a PC, do any editing required, and then
    copy it to the NAS.

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  • From the dog from that film you saw@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Sun Sep 25 14:36:58 2022
    On 25/09/2022 11:04, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Well why not. You can record on it. There does seem to have been in recent years a concentrated push by media providers to not let you have the program content portably locally. It matters not if its radio, tv or whatever. I
    find the subscription model very limiting, since you have no media and thus cannot listen or watch it elsewhere.
    Brian



    i'd imagine the main reason being that it looked awful and degraded with
    use.

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  • From Robin@21:1/5 to Max Demian on Sun Sep 25 15:47:22 2022
    On 25/09/2022 13:05, Max Demian wrote:
    On 25/09/2022 11:04, Brian Gaff wrote:

    Well why not. You can record on it. There does seem to have been in
    recent
    years a concentrated push by media providers to not let you have the
    program
    content portably locally. It matters not if its radio, tv or whatever. I
    find the subscription model very limiting, since  you have no media
    and thus
    cannot listen or watch it elsewhere.

    Or recordable DVD. I have a Panasonic DVD recorder with a T2 Freeview
    tuner and HDD. I record onto HDD, edit out the ads (or top and tail if
    no ads) and burn to DVD-R or DVD-RW depending on whether I think I will
    want to keep to recoding (for ever).


    In HD or only in SD? I thought one needed to use a computer to capture
    and save in HD anything one might want to play back on a different device.

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  • From David Wade@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Sun Sep 25 16:23:16 2022
    On 25/09/2022 11:04, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Well why not. You can record on it. There does seem to have been in recent years a concentrated push by media providers to not let you have the program content portably locally. It matters not if its radio, tv or whatever. I
    find the subscription model very limiting, since you have no media and thus cannot listen or watch it elsewhere.
    Brian

    Not sure about that. Both my Panasonic TVs record to a portable USB device.

    Dave

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  • From Max Demian@21:1/5 to Robin on Sun Sep 25 16:43:01 2022
    On 25/09/2022 15:47, Robin wrote:
    On 25/09/2022 13:05, Max Demian wrote:
    On 25/09/2022 11:04, Brian Gaff wrote:

    Well why not. You can record on it. There does seem to have been in
    recent
    years a concentrated push by media providers to not let you have the
    program
    content portably locally. It matters not if its radio, tv or whatever. I >>> find the subscription model very limiting, since  you have no media
    and thus
    cannot listen or watch it elsewhere.

    Or recordable DVD. I have a Panasonic DVD recorder with a T2 Freeview
    tuner and HDD. I record onto HDD, edit out the ads (or top and tail if
    no ads) and burn to DVD-R or DVD-RW depending on whether I think I
    will want to keep to recoding (for ever).


    In HD or only in SD?  I thought one needed to use a computer to capture
    and save in HD anything one might want to play back on a different device.


    DVDs are SD. Panasonic so (or did) make a Blu-ray version (for extra
    wonga). I find SD (from a good signal source) adequate for viewing on my
    32" TV with upscaling (by the recorder or the TV). In any case, usually
    I only record DVDs so I don't have to watch them. And the original HD
    version is on the DVDR's HDD (with optional subtitles).

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to Max Demian on Mon Sep 26 10:23:28 2022
    Yes where are the just press record situations. As I say its been made deliberately difficult.

    Brian

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    "Max Demian" <max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote in message news:tgpg5l$3amfu$2@dont-email.me...
    On 25/09/2022 11:04, Brian Gaff wrote:

    Well why not. You can record on it. There does seem to have been in
    recent
    years a concentrated push by media providers to not let you have the
    program
    content portably locally. It matters not if its radio, tv or whatever. I
    find the subscription model very limiting, since you have no media and
    thus
    cannot listen or watch it elsewhere.

    Or recordable DVD. I have a Panasonic DVD recorder with a T2 Freeview
    tuner and HDD. I record onto HDD, edit out the ads (or top and tail if no ads) and burn to DVD-R or DVD-RW depending on whether I think I will want
    to keep to recoding (for ever).

    For radio programmes I record them from Freeview with my Humax Fox,
    transfer them via USB stick to my laptop, edit and convert to MP3 with NCH WavePad, then (perhaps) upload to MP3 player or phone.

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to Java Jive on Mon Sep 26 10:25:20 2022
    I think you have missed the point for the average user here.
    Brian

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    On 25/09/2022 13:05, Max Demian wrote:

    On 25/09/2022 11:04, Brian Gaff wrote:

    Well why not. You can record on it. There does seem to have been in
    recent years a concentrated push by media providers to not let you
    have the program content portably locally. It matters not if its
    radio, tv or whatever. I find the subscription model very limiting,
    since you have no media and thus cannot listen or watch it elsewhere.

    Well, you can, but it depends on exactly what you want to do. For
    example, I can copy music to USB storage to listen to it in the car, and I can play video or music by my bedside using a cheap, second-hand network media player connected to a TV and/or stereo system as appropriate.

    Or recordable DVD. I have a Panasonic DVD recorder with a T2 Freeview
    tuner and HDD. I record onto HDD, edit out the ads (or top and tail if no
    ads) and burn to DVD-R or DVD-RW depending on whether I think I will want
    to keep to recoding (for ever).

    For radio programmes I record them from Freeview with my Humax Fox,
    transfer them via USB stick to my laptop, edit and convert to MP3 with
    NCH WavePad, then (perhaps) upload to MP3 player or phone.

    Or better still, just a hard disk with an ongoing backup system to other
    hard disks. My entire media library has been on NAS for years now, why
    the need for less reliable means of storage such as tape or CD/DVD? I can play VHSs, CDs, DVDs, MDs, ACs, LPs, etc, all without ever needing to
    touch the original media, which are packed away in boxes, and I can record anything new I want using a PC, do any editing required, and then copy it
    to the NAS.

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 26 10:28:54 2022
    I also see the demise of DVD very soon now if the industry has their way, though blue ray seems to be being increasingly used for large works of audio
    in multiple formats ie Dolby Atmos original, Stereo remix and cutting room floor crap and unissued tracks etc, even commentaries by one of the band members and bits of video.

    Brian

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    "Robin" <rbw@outlook.com> wrote in message news:b6a79745-df0a-e69b-2668-217a0919ef0e@outlook.com...
    On 25/09/2022 13:05, Max Demian wrote:
    On 25/09/2022 11:04, Brian Gaff wrote:

    Well why not. You can record on it. There does seem to have been in
    recent
    years a concentrated push by media providers to not let you have the
    program
    content portably locally. It matters not if its radio, tv or whatever. I >>> find the subscription model very limiting, since you have no media and
    thus
    cannot listen or watch it elsewhere.

    Or recordable DVD. I have a Panasonic DVD recorder with a T2 Freeview
    tuner and HDD. I record onto HDD, edit out the ads (or top and tail if no
    ads) and burn to DVD-R or DVD-RW depending on whether I think I will want
    to keep to recoding (for ever).


    In HD or only in SD? I thought one needed to use a computer to capture
    and save in HD anything one might want to play back on a different device.

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to David Wade on Mon Sep 26 14:01:03 2022
    On 25/09/2022 16:23, David Wade wrote:
    On 25/09/2022 11:04, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Well why not. You can record on it. There does seem to have been in
    recent
    years a concentrated push by media providers to not let you have the
    program
    content portably locally. It matters not if its radio, tv or whatever. I
    find the subscription model very limiting, since  you have no media
    and thus
    cannot listen or watch it elsewhere.
      Brian

    Not sure about that. Both my Panasonic TVs record to a portable USB
    device.

    Yes. Programme storage and exchange is file based. That's 'trickled
    down' <phrase of the week> into the consumer domain.

    It's nuts to suggest a return to tape, (or wire !)

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Mon Sep 26 18:05:37 2022
    Brian Gaff wrote:

    I also see the demise of DVD very soon now

    I think you've got your crystal ball the wrong way round

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Thu Sep 29 17:28:44 2022
    On 26/09/2022 14:01, Mark Carver wrote:
    Yes. Programme storage and exchange is file based. That's 'trickled
    down' <phrase of the week> into the consumer domain.

    It's nuts to suggest a return to tape, (or wire !)

    File-based has the very big advantages that it allows random access,
    allows copying from one place to another at faster than real time speed,
    and allows unwanted bits (continuity and commercials) to be edited out.

    I wouldn't want to go back to watching TV from a sequential medium such
    as a tape. I still have a VHS VCR, but in the past 15 years I've only
    used it for copying old VHS (home movie or recorded off-air) tapes to
    MPG or other digital format.

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