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  • Older / cheaper Freview box locks up on certain channels.

    From David Paste@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 17 12:38:46 2022
    Anyone had any similar experience, or heard of it happening?

    All buttons on the remote and on the TV itself become unresponsive,
    except for the power button on the TV, and then the lag is 30
    seconds or so. Very strange, very frustrating.

    Thanks.

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to pastedavid@gmail.com on Sun Sep 18 10:24:06 2022
    On Sat, 17 Sep 2022 12:38:46 -0700 (PDT), David Paste
    <pastedavid@gmail.com> wrote:

    Anyone had any similar experience, or heard of it happening?

    All buttons on the remote and on the TV itself become unresponsive,
    except for the power button on the TV, and then the lag is 30
    seconds or so. Very strange, very frustrating.

    Which channels are affected and which not? This may provide an
    insight into what is happening.

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  • From Dave W@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 18 11:29:07 2022
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  • From Adrian Caspersz@21:1/5 to David Paste on Sun Sep 18 13:11:13 2022
    On 17/09/2022 20:38, David Paste wrote:
    Anyone had any similar experience, or heard of it happening?

    All buttons on the remote and on the TV itself become unresponsive,
    except for the power button on the TV, and then the lag is 30
    seconds or so. Very strange, very frustrating.

    It's dead, Jim....

    Maybe the caps have cooked, busy CPU loses power then crashes, and
    eventually it all restarts.

    Have an off-tuned AM radio placed nearby and have a listen to the sound
    of the interference pattern as it changes.

    Or look for the bulging caps in the power supply.

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    Adrian C

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to All on Sun Sep 18 16:53:50 2022
    Yes, Goodman's Smart Talk used to do this a lot and also lose AD and
    splutter the voice. In my view all classic signs of the processor being too slow or the system running out of memory. Even my latest Samsung is not
    immune to spluttering, taking a long time to resolve a channel or muttering gibberish on occasion.
    Brian

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    "David Paste" <pastedavid@gmail.com> wrote in message news:ec26347f-de8b-4987-bec4-b29ee7ef577dn@googlegroups.com...
    Anyone had any similar experience, or heard of it happening?

    All buttons on the remote and on the TV itself become unresponsive,
    except for the power button on the TV, and then the lag is 30
    seconds or so. Very strange, very frustrating.

    Thanks.

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to Adrian Caspersz on Sun Sep 18 16:58:55 2022
    Yes the problems with the good old TVonics boxes were power supply related. These were switch mode and even when good chucked out a lot of dross. They
    also like many devices had remote controls that gradually died as the conductive layer under the buttons dried out and fell into the well the
    button pushed into. Also those with hard drives corrupted their drives due
    to the psu issues.
    When will people realise that scrimping on important components gets them a bad name.
    Brian

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    "Adrian Caspersz" <email@here.invalid> wrote in message news:joog71Fans3U1@mid.individual.net...
    On 17/09/2022 20:38, David Paste wrote:
    Anyone had any similar experience, or heard of it happening?

    All buttons on the remote and on the TV itself become unresponsive,
    except for the power button on the TV, and then the lag is 30
    seconds or so. Very strange, very frustrating.

    It's dead, Jim....

    Maybe the caps have cooked, busy CPU loses power then crashes, and
    eventually it all restarts.

    Have an off-tuned AM radio placed nearby and have a listen to the sound of the interference pattern as it changes.

    Or look for the bulging caps in the power supply.

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  • From David Paste@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Tue Sep 20 14:58:40 2022
    Thanks Brian, one of the tellies is indeed a Samsung of about 10 years old.

    On Sunday, 18 September 2022 at 16:53:53 UTC+1, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Yes, Goodman's Smart Talk used to do this a lot and also lose AD and
    splutter the voice. In my view all classic signs of the processor being too slow or the system running out of memory. Even my latest Samsung is not immune to spluttering, taking a long time to resolve a channel or muttering gibberish on occasion.
    Brian

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  • From David Paste@21:1/5 to Dave W on Tue Sep 20 15:03:11 2022
    On Sunday, 18 September 2022 at 11:29:20 UTC+1, Dave W wrote:

    If the TV's buttons don't work, it must have locked up and you have no
    idea what the Freeview box is doing - probably working normally.

    It's a Freeview TV, no separate box, and no recording functionality or
    anything like that. Only happens on some channels, GB News being
    one, I'm not sure which other as the TV owner didn't take note.

    If
    there is 30 seconds between pressing the power button and the TV
    switching off, it's too smart for its own good. The only thing you can
    do is switch it off at the mains and switch on again.

    Seems that most things are now. All I want is 4 channels, nicam
    stereo, and Teletext.

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  • From David Paste@21:1/5 to Scott on Tue Sep 20 15:04:30 2022
    On Sunday, 18 September 2022 at 10:24:13 UTC+1, Scott wrote:

    Which channels are affected and which not? This may provide an
    insight into what is happening.

    GB News is one of the channels but the other is unknown as yet
    because the telly's owner/operator didn't take note. The only thing
    I could think to do was retune the TVs. We'll see what happens.

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  • From Java Jive@21:1/5 to David Paste on Tue Sep 20 23:51:22 2022
    On 20/09/2022 23:04, David Paste wrote:

    GB News is one of the channels

    Obviously a box with a built-in dislike of fake news then :-)

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    Fake news kills!

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to David Paste on Tue Sep 20 23:51:34 2022
    On 20/09/2022 23:03, David Paste wrote:
    On Sunday, 18 September 2022 at 11:29:20 UTC+1, Dave W wrote:

    If the TV's buttons don't work, it must have locked up and you have no
    idea what the Freeview box is doing - probably working normally.

    It's a Freeview TV, no separate box, and no recording functionality or anything like that. Only happens on some channels, GB News being
    one, I'm not sure which other as the TV owner didn't take note.

    If
    there is 30 seconds between pressing the power button and the TV
    switching off, it's too smart for its own good. The only thing you can
    do is switch it off at the mains and switch on again.

    Seems that most things are now. All I want is 4 channels, nicam
    stereo, and Teletext.

    Four channels? How quaint!

    that would be like going to your local library and there are just four
    books on the shelves!

    what is nicam stereo and teletext?

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  • From wrightsaerials@f2s.com@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 21 05:11:17 2022
    On Tuesday, 20 September 2022 at 23:51:36 UTC+1, SH wrote:

    that would be like going to your local library and there are just four
    books on the shelves!

    It wouldn't matter if they were good books. Multichannel TV is like going to the library and finding the shelves loaded with 100 types of shit.

    Bill

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  • From David Paste@21:1/5 to All on Wed Sep 21 05:44:30 2022
    On Tuesday, 20 September 2022 at 23:51:36 UTC+1, SH wrote:

    Four channels? How quaint!

    that would be like going to your local library and there are just four
    books on the shelves!

    au contraire mon ami ;)

    what is nicam stereo and teletext?

    The pinnacle of human achievement.pinnacle

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  • From David Paste@21:1/5 to wrightsaerials@aol.com on Wed Sep 21 05:45:07 2022
    On Wednesday, 21 September 2022 at 13:11:18 UTC+1, wrightsaerials@aol.com wrote:

    It wouldn't matter if they were good books. Multichannel TV is like going to the library and finding the shelves loaded with 100 types of shit.

    Preach, brother!

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  • From David Paste@21:1/5 to Java Jive on Wed Sep 21 05:51:38 2022
    On Tuesday, 20 September 2022 at 23:51:26 UTC+1, Java Jive wrote:
    On 20/09/2022 23:04, David Paste wrote:

    GB News is one of the channels
    Obviously a box with a built-in dislike of fake news then :-)

    I have seen very little of it to be honest, and I am all for people having their
    own "thing" but the few times I've tuned in, I can't get over the basicness of it (I mean the way that language is nearly used to spread the current talking head's opinion).

    Frankly it amazes me that more people don't understand that "News" channels
    are nothing of the sort; they are opinion channels with headlines every half-hour or so. Some opinions may be supported with sources or statistics, and some opinions may be little more than a venting of the spleen, but opinions they
    are.

    More accurate to regard them as Supposition & Conjecture channels ;)

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to wrightsaerials@aol.com on Wed Sep 21 16:37:29 2022
    On 21/09/2022 13:11, wrightsaerials@aol.com wrote:
    It wouldn't matter if they were good books. Multichannel TV is like going to the library and finding the shelves loaded with 100 types of shit.

    Bill


    And having to pay to read the books though there would still be adverts
    on every other page.

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