• Streaming Amazon Prime

    From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 12 09:42:41 2022
    I signed up to Amazon Prime yesterday, streaming it through a Roku Express
    4K.

    After watching two episodes of Start Trek Picard I got an error message on screen whining about the HDMI cable. I use a Yamaha RX-S601D to switch the various devices which puts sound to the speakers and the video to my TV.

    After a bit of Googling I found it seems to be a fairly common issue.
    There was only one mention of DRM which I suspect is the root of the
    problem. Can software detect that the HDMI cable is going through a switch instead of directly form the Roku box to the TV? Nothing else complains
    and I don't want to be stuck with TV sound.

    Many thanks.

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  • From Adrian Caspersz@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Mon Sep 12 10:48:28 2022
    On 12/09/2022 10:42, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    I signed up to Amazon Prime yesterday, streaming it through a Roku
    Express 4K.

    After watching two episodes of Start Trek Picard I got an error message
    on screen whining about the HDMI cable. I use a Yamaha RX-S601D to
    switch the various devices which puts sound to the speakers and the
    video to my TV.

    After a bit of Googling I found it seems to be a fairly common issue.
    There was only one mention of DRM which I suspect is the root of the
    problem. Can software detect that the HDMI cable is going through a
    switch instead of directly form the Roku box to the TV? Nothing else complains and I don't want to be stuck with TV sound.

    If your TV has ARC, then cabling the Roku direct to the TV should still
    route sound to your Yamaha.


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    Adrian C

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  • From Roderick Stewart@21:1/5 to jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk on Mon Sep 12 12:48:43 2022
    On 12 Sep 2022 09:42:41 GMT, "Jeff Gaines"
    <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


    I signed up to Amazon Prime yesterday, streaming it through a Roku Express >4K.

    After watching two episodes of Start Trek Picard I got an error message on >screen whining about the HDMI cable. I use a Yamaha RX-S601D to switch the >various devices which puts sound to the speakers and the video to my TV.

    After a bit of Googling I found it seems to be a fairly common issue.
    There was only one mention of DRM which I suspect is the root of the
    problem. Can software detect that the HDMI cable is going through a switch >instead of directly form the Roku box to the TV? Nothing else complains
    and I don't want to be stuck with TV sound.

    Many thanks.

    I have an Nvidia Shield, an Amazon stick, a Sony Blu-ray player, a
    computer and a Panasonic Freeview receiver connected through an HDMI
    switch followed by a pass-through audio extractor to provide stereo
    phono outputs for a hi-fi amplifier. The TV display has no signals fed
    to it other than a single HDMI cable, and has its volume control
    permanently turned down to zero.

    The switch and the audio extractor are just little no-name boxes
    costing a few tens of pounds, not the hundreds that an all-singing
    all-dancing media receiver would probably have cost. I have this
    arrangement as a result of gradually changing things and adding things
    to what I already had over the years, and might have something quite
    different if I could afford to scrap everything and start from
    scratch, but it all works, no matter which input to the switch is
    selected. If the TV is able to detect where the signal is coming from
    it's not complaining. Maybe the answer is to keep things simple?

    Rod.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Mon Sep 12 12:56:38 2022
    Jeff Gaines wrote:

    There was only one mention of DRM which I suspect is the root of the problem.

    I think the person choosing the photos though "HDCP stripper" was something else!

    <https://amazon.co.uk/HDCP-stripper/dp/B082L3HQGK/>

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  • From Unsteadyken@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 12 13:40:26 2022
    In article <xn0nmrrdg6z8meq014@news.individual.net>,

    Jeff Gaines says...

    I signed up to Amazon Prime yesterday, streaming it through a Roku Express 4K.


    I have an RX-s601D and encountered this with 4K devices, it is due to
    the copy protection

    The solution:

    Connect the Roku to HDMI input 6 which is HDCP2.2 Capable


    --
    Ken

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to Roderick Stewart on Mon Sep 12 16:59:08 2022
    I've never had any issues from DRM, its mainly there to stop hd being
    recorded in fact from what I can tell. Anyway, I junked prime as the AD was getting worse and every time the apps updated you lost functionality from
    the inbuilt screenreader in the Samsung. I can live without costly streamed stuff.
    I sound like Scrooge, bah humbug!

    Some Sony sets seem sensitive to cables, but I don't know anything about
    your box..
    Brian

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    On 12 Sep 2022 09:42:41 GMT, "Jeff Gaines"
    <jgaines_newsid@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:


    I signed up to Amazon Prime yesterday, streaming it through a Roku Express >>4K.

    After watching two episodes of Start Trek Picard I got an error message on >>screen whining about the HDMI cable. I use a Yamaha RX-S601D to switch the >>various devices which puts sound to the speakers and the video to my TV.

    After a bit of Googling I found it seems to be a fairly common issue.
    There was only one mention of DRM which I suspect is the root of the >>problem. Can software detect that the HDMI cable is going through a switch >>instead of directly form the Roku box to the TV? Nothing else complains
    and I don't want to be stuck with TV sound.

    Many thanks.

    I have an Nvidia Shield, an Amazon stick, a Sony Blu-ray player, a
    computer and a Panasonic Freeview receiver connected through an HDMI
    switch followed by a pass-through audio extractor to provide stereo
    phono outputs for a hi-fi amplifier. The TV display has no signals fed
    to it other than a single HDMI cable, and has its volume control
    permanently turned down to zero.

    The switch and the audio extractor are just little no-name boxes
    costing a few tens of pounds, not the hundreds that an all-singing all-dancing media receiver would probably have cost. I have this
    arrangement as a result of gradually changing things and adding things
    to what I already had over the years, and might have something quite different if I could afford to scrap everything and start from
    scratch, but it all works, no matter which input to the switch is
    selected. If the TV is able to detect where the signal is coming from
    it's not complaining. Maybe the answer is to keep things simple?

    Rod.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Unsteadyken on Mon Sep 12 19:23:33 2022
    On 12/09/2022 in message <MPG.3d8939129e1382959897d4@News.Individual.NET> Unsteadyken wrote:

    In article <xn0nmrrdg6z8meq014@news.individual.net>,

    Jeff Gaines says...

    I signed up to Amazon Prime yesterday, streaming it through a Roku Express >>4K.


    I have an RX-s601D and encountered this with 4K devices, it is due to
    the copy protection

    The solution:

    Connect the Roku to HDMI input 6 which is HDCP2.2 Capable

    Brilliant, thanks Ken :-)

    I switched it over and have now watched the first three episodes of the original Star Trek - I didn't know but only Spock was in episode 1, the
    rest turned up in episode 2!

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  • From Unsteadyken@21:1/5 to All on Mon Sep 12 21:40:49 2022
    In article <xn0nms6pc7jzmjh01g@news.individual.net>,

    Jeff Gaines says...

    Brilliant, thanks Ken :-)

    It took me a while to figure out why I couldn't output 4K from a
    Playstation 4. I eventually resorted to RTFM:-)


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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to Unsteadyken on Tue Sep 13 09:15:50 2022
    Silly question, why not make them all the same or at least fall back to something, not just fix it so only one hdmi does the thing the way you want.
    In my view the whole system is far too prescriptive. I needed to split off
    the pc sound and not have it going through my telly when using it as a
    monitor. I havd to get a via to hdmi adaptor and not use the audio bit to
    get it to work. Its supposed to be configurable in Windoze, but it seems the hardware often ignores you.
    Brian

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    In article <xn0nmrrdg6z8meq014@news.individual.net>,

    Jeff Gaines says...

    I signed up to Amazon Prime yesterday, streaming it through a Roku
    Express
    4K.


    I have an RX-s601D and encountered this with 4K devices, it is due to
    the copy protection

    The solution:

    Connect the Roku to HDMI input 6 which is HDCP2.2 Capable


    --
    Ken

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Tue Sep 13 09:05:13 2022
    I've had it just under five years, perhaps it was a new version of HDCP or there may have been cost
    implications - my Panasonic TV only does ARC on HDMI 1.

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    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    The true meaning of life is to plant trees under whose shade you do not
    expect to sit.



    On 13/09/2022 in message <tfpe7o$2hmjk$1@dont-email.me> Brian Gaff wrote:

    Silly question, why not make them all the same or at least fall back to >something, not just fix it so only one hdmi does the thing the way you
    want.
    In my view the whole system is far too prescriptive. I needed to split off >the pc sound and not have it going through my telly when using it as a >monitor. I havd to get a via to hdmi adaptor and not use the audio bit to
    get it to work. Its supposed to be configurable in Windoze, but it seems
    the hardware often ignores you.
    Brian

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  • From Max Demian@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Tue Sep 13 12:03:06 2022
    On 12/09/2022 20:23, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 12/09/2022 in message
    <MPG.3d8939129e1382959897d4@News.Individual.NET> Unsteadyken wrote:

    In article <xn0nmrrdg6z8meq014@news.individual.net>,

    Jeff Gaines says...

    I signed up to Amazon Prime yesterday, streaming it through a Roku
    Express
    4K.


    I have an RX-s601D and encountered this with 4K devices, it is due to
    the copy protection

    The solution:

    Connect the Roku to HDMI input 6 which is HDCP2.2 Capable

    Brilliant, thanks Ken :-)

    I switched it over and have now watched the first three episodes of the original Star Trek - I didn't know but only Spock was in episode 1, the
    rest turned up in episode 2!

    You must be talking about the pilot episode with a different captain;
    not shown until many years after the original broadcasts. They re-used
    bits of it in one of the canonical episodes.

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  • From David Woolley@21:1/5 to Max Demian on Tue Sep 13 12:45:01 2022
    On 13/09/2022 12:03, Max Demian wrote:
    You must be talking about the pilot episode with a different captain;
    not shown until many years after the original broadcasts. They re-used
    bits of it in one of the canonical episodes.

    -

    They did two pilots. The first one had Captain Pike, and failed to get
    them a series. It was re-cut to form the basis of The Menagerie, a two
    part episode, when production was running late.

    I think the second pilot was the one with the glowing eyes and the
    barrier at the edge of the galaxy. I think it was the first shown in
    the UK, but not in the US.

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