• Adverts on GBNews

    From Woody@21:1/5 to All on Tue Jul 19 15:35:46 2022
    I wonder when GBNews will get some new adverts? I'm not only getting fed
    up with the limited selection, but I can't find any more continuity
    errors in them!

    I know, let's have a competition to see how many viewers on here have
    spotted?

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to Woody on Wed Jul 20 10:38:44 2022
    Not me gov, but generally adverts seem to be going through a phase where the brand is never mentioned on the sound, thus dpriving all blind viewers any knowledge of what the companies are attempting to sell. Considering the
    aging demographic and increase in blindness, this would seem to be rather
    silly while people like Virgin, Proctor and Gamble and Waitrose etc have an
    AD track, this is only any good if its switched on!

    Brian

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    "Woody" <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:tb6fg3$14bc9$2@dont-email.me...
    I wonder when GBNews will get some new adverts? I'm not only getting fed up >with the limited selection, but I can't find any more continuity errors in >them!

    I know, let's have a competition to see how many viewers on here have spotted?


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  • From williamwright@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Thu Jul 21 02:03:08 2022
    On 20/07/2022 10:38, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Not me gov, but generally adverts seem to be going through a phase where the brand is never mentioned on the sound, thus dpriving all blind viewers any knowledge of what the companies are attempting to sell. Considering the
    aging demographic and increase in blindness, this would seem to be rather silly while people like Virgin, Proctor and Gamble and Waitrose etc have an AD track, this is only any good if its switched on!

    I don't know if the ads are regionalised, but if so it's a bit
    approximate because the adverts we get in Emley Moor Land are mostly
    Welsh. Various weird little Welsh businesses. There's one for a firm
    that buys old jewellery and the guy has a ridiculous sing-song
    accent.Does anyone know why?

    Bill

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  • From Woody@21:1/5 to williamwright on Thu Jul 21 07:39:03 2022
    On Thu 21/07/2022 02:03, williamwright wrote:
    On 20/07/2022 10:38, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Not me gov, but generally adverts seem to be going through a phase
    where the
    brand is never mentioned on the sound, thus dpriving all blind viewers
    any
    knowledge of what the companies are attempting to sell. Considering the
    aging demographic and increase in blindness, this would seem to be rather
    silly while people like Virgin, Proctor and Gamble and Waitrose etc
    have an
    AD track, this is only any good if its switched on!

    I don't know if the ads are regionalised, but if so it's a bit
    approximate because the adverts we get in Emley Moor Land are mostly
    Welsh. Various weird little Welsh businesses. There's one for a firm
    that buys old jewellery and the guy has a ridiculous sing-song
    accent.Does anyone know why?


    Well, for a start Bill, is it a man or a woman both in sound and in
    picture? Have you noticed how the bag carried by the 'customer' keeps
    changing arms, and the clearly mouthed "Wow!" and "Oh my god"?

    Then:
    The gin company advert starts with the lower half of a couple walking on
    Tenby beach carrying a lantern (why?) and a hamper; next shot closer in
    - no lantern or hamper. Why would anyone drinking socially/domestically
    carry and use a spirit measure? First shot of gin going into beaker -
    sprig of Rosemary already in it, then fruit put into beakers and no
    Rosemary, then next shot both beakers have Rosemary. Eh?

    And last but not least the couple walking up to Old John (a folly in
    Bradgate Park, Leicestershire - went there often as a child) where both
    are carrying bags over their 'outer' shoulders so they can hold hands.
    Several shots of this format then suddenly both have got their bags over
    both shoulders but still holding hands.

    And so it goes on.......

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to williamwright on Thu Jul 21 14:22:23 2022
    On 21/07/2022 02:03 am, williamwright wrote:

    On 20/07/2022 10:38, Brian Gaff wrote:

    Not me gov, but generally adverts seem to be going through a phase
    where the brand is never mentioned on the sound, thus dpriving all
    blind viewers any knowledge of what the companies are attempting
    to sell. Considering the aging demographic and increase in
    blindness, this would seem to be rather silly while people like
    Virgin, Proctor and Gamble and Waitrose etc have an AD track,
    this is only any good if its switched on!

    I don't know if the ads are regionalised, but if so it's a bit
    approximate because the adverts we get in Emley Moor Land are mostly
    Welsh. Various weird little Welsh businesses. There's one for a firm
    that buys old jewellery and the guy has a ridiculous sing-song
    accent.Does anyone know why?

    Yes, lots of adverts for those Welsh (local) businesses in the south
    east, too.

    I assume that the advert rate card has such low prices that businesses
    are paying no more for national coverage than they might expect to pay
    for local coverage (even if it were available).

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  • From williamwright@21:1/5 to Woody on Thu Jul 21 19:11:36 2022
    On 21/07/2022 07:39, Woody wrote:
    On Thu 21/07/2022 02:03, williamwright wrote:
    On 20/07/2022 10:38, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Not me gov, but generally adverts seem to be going through a phase
    where the
    brand is never mentioned on the sound, thus dpriving all blind
    viewers any
    knowledge of what the companies are attempting to sell. Considering the
    aging demographic and increase in blindness, this would seem to be
    rather
    silly while people like Virgin, Proctor and Gamble and Waitrose etc
    have an
    AD track, this is only any good if its switched on!

    I don't know if the ads are regionalised, but if so it's a bit
    approximate because the adverts we get in Emley Moor Land are mostly
    Welsh. Various weird little Welsh businesses. There's one for a firm
    that buys old jewellery and the guy has a ridiculous sing-song
    accent.Does anyone know why?


    Well, for a start Bill, is it a man or a woman both in sound and in
    picture? Have you noticed how the bag carried by the 'customer' keeps changing arms, and the clearly mouthed "Wow!" and "Oh my god"?

    Then:
    The gin company advert starts with the lower half of a couple walking on Tenby beach carrying a lantern (why?) and a hamper; next shot closer in
    - no lantern or hamper. Why would anyone drinking socially/domestically
    carry and use a spirit measure? First shot of gin going into beaker -
    sprig of Rosemary already in it, then fruit put into beakers and no
    Rosemary, then next shot both beakers have Rosemary. Eh?

    And last but not least the couple walking up to Old John (a folly in
    Bradgate Park, Leicestershire - went there often as a child) where both
    are carrying bags over their 'outer' shoulders so they can hold hands. Several shots of this format then suddenly both have got their bags over
    both shoulders but still holding hands.

    And so it goes on.......

    Blimey! Well done! TBH I have GB News on when I'm in the workshop, so
    although I have it on the telly I rarely look at the picture.

    Bill

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  • From Adrian Caspersz@21:1/5 to Woody on Fri Jul 22 20:07:07 2022
    On 19/07/2022 15:35, Woody wrote:
    I wonder when GBNews will get some new adverts? I'm not only getting fed
    up with the limited selection, but I can't find any more continuity
    errors in them!

    GBNews is struggling to find advertisers that are keen to support the
    work that they do. Must a be difficult PR thing for them?

    --
    Adrian C

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  • From John Ainsley@21:1/5 to Adrian Caspersz on Sun Feb 19 00:50:23 2023
    On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 20:07:10 UTC+1, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
    On 19/07/2022 15:35, Woody wrote:
    I wonder when GBNews will get some new adverts? I'm not only getting fed
    up with the limited selection, but I can't find any more continuity
    errors in them!
    GBNews is struggling to find advertisers that are keen to support the
    work that they do. Must a be difficult PR thing for them?

    --
    Adrian C
    Getting very bored with the repetitiveness and Welshness adverts on GBN. I live in the NE England and am some distance from Llanelli, Cardiff and Swansea which I think are the locations I would have to travel to for exchanging gold.

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  • From R. Mark Clayton@21:1/5 to Woody on Sun Feb 19 04:10:13 2023
    On Tuesday, 19 July 2022 at 15:35:49 UTC+1, Woody wrote:
    I wonder when GBNews will get some new adverts? I'm not only getting fed
    up with the limited selection, but I can't find any more continuity
    errors in them!

    I know, let's have a competition to see how many viewers on here have spotted?

    The lengths they will go to just to get another viewer - no chance.
    Anyway who wants to see adverts for nazi memorabilia and military training camps in Wyoming?

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to John Ainsley on Sun Feb 19 12:55:11 2023
    On 19/02/2023 08:50 am, John Ainsley wrote:

    On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 20:07:10 UTC+1, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
    On 19/07/2022 15:35, Woody wrote:

    I wonder when GBNews will get some new adverts? I'm not only getting fed >>> up with the limited selection, but I can't find any more continuity
    errors in them!

    GBNews is struggling to find advertisers that are keen to support the
    work that they do. Must a be difficult PR thing for them?

    Getting very bored with the repetitiveness and Welshness adverts on GBN. I live in the NE England and am some distance from Llanelli, Cardiff and Swansea which I think are the locations I would have to travel to for exchanging gold.

    Be thankful that someone is paying for the adverts!

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to John Ainsley on Sun Feb 19 19:27:07 2023
    On 19/02/2023 08:50, John Ainsley wrote:
    On Friday, 22 July 2022 at 20:07:10 UTC+1, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
    On 19/07/2022 15:35, Woody wrote:
    I wonder when GBNews will get some new adverts? I'm not only getting fed >>> up with the limited selection, but I can't find any more continuity
    errors in them!
    GBNews is struggling to find advertisers that are keen to support the
    work that they do. Must a be difficult PR thing for them?

    --
    Adrian C
    Getting very bored with the repetitiveness and Welshness adverts on GBN. I live in the NE England and am some distance from Llanelli, Cardiff and Swansea which I think are the locations I would have to travel to for exchanging gold.
    It'll be Brinks Mat gold of course.

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to Adrian Caspersz on Mon Feb 20 03:29:16 2023
    On 22/07/2022 20:07, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
    On 19/07/2022 15:35, Woody wrote:
    I wonder when GBNews will get some new adverts? I'm not only getting
    fed up with the limited selection, but I can't find any more
    continuity errors in them!

    GBNews is struggling to find advertisers that are keen to support the
    work that they do. Must a be difficult PR thing for them?


    What work are they claiming they do?
    They seem to be a pretty pathetic bunch of spoilt tory twits.

    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 20 08:25:10 2023
    On 20/02/2023 in message <k5g7ocFcsckU1@mid.individual.net> Brian Gregory wrote:

    GBNews is struggling to find advertisers that are keen to support the
    work that they do. Must a be difficult PR thing for them?


    What work are they claiming they do?
    They seem to be a pretty pathetic bunch of spoilt tory twits.

    They are trying to bring some balance in to the news to counter the BBC's
    left wing bias. Quite interesting to watch, although their presenters seem incapable of keeping control over their mini debates. They pride
    themselves in not silencing anybody which allow the socialists who appear
    just to barf socialist propaganda and talk over everybody.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Here we go it's getting close, now it's just who wants it most.

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  • From Java Jive@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Mon Feb 20 12:48:03 2023
    On 20/02/2023 08:25, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    On 20/02/2023 in message <k5g7ocFcsckU1@mid.individual.net> Brian
    Gregory wrote:

    [Quoting broken: Adrian Caspersz wrote:]

    GBNews is struggling to find advertisers that are keen to support the
    work that they do. Must a be difficult PR thing for them?

    What work are they claiming they do?
    They seem to be a pretty pathetic bunch of spoilt tory twits.

    They are trying to bring some balance in to the news to counter the
    BBC's left wing bias.

    The BBC doesn't have a left-wing bias to need countering. What you're
    really saying is that GBNews has a right-wing bias, well, we all knew
    that already.

    For a delightful description of how a right-wing biased media
    organisation can tie itself completely in knots by slavishly following
    ratings rather than the truth, you could do worse than to read the
    reports coming out of the US court case taken by voting machine
    manufacturers Dominion against Fox News. Countless emails have come to
    light showing that no-one of any importance at Fox News gave any
    credence to allegations that Dominion voting machines used during the
    last presidential election had been programmed to favour Biden, yet they
    kept putting such conspiracy theorists on air, apparently because they
    were frightened of losing their brain-washed[*] audience to other
    equally dishonest right-wing news channels!

    The story has so many elements of high farce that, if it wasn't so
    serious in its potential implications, it would otherwise be very funny:

    https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-fox-news-dominion-voting-lawsuit-b2285051.html

    * BTW, that's 'brain-washed' as in 'people like you'.

    --

    Fake news kills!

    I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
    www.macfh.co.uk

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Java Jive on Mon Feb 20 14:10:26 2023
    On 20/02/2023 12:48 pm, Java Jive wrote:

    [ ... ]

    The BBC doesn't have a left-wing bias...
    Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
    ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

    That's a good 'un!

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to JNugent on Mon Feb 20 15:21:53 2023
    On Mon, 20 Feb 2023 14:10:26 +0000, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com> wrote:

    On 20/02/2023 12:48 pm, Java Jive wrote:

    [ ... ]

    The BBC doesn't have a left-wing bias... >Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
    hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
    ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!

    That's a good 'un!

    If you are far enough to the right everything has a left wing bias.
    --

    Martin in Zuid Holland

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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Java Jive on Mon Feb 20 15:03:10 2023
    On 20/02/2023 in message <tsvq65$p2he$1@dont-email.me> Java Jive wrote:

    On 20/02/2023 08:25, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    On 20/02/2023 in message <k5g7ocFcsckU1@mid.individual.net> Brian Gregory >>wrote:

    [Quoting broken: Adrian Caspersz wrote:]

    GBNews is struggling to find advertisers that are keen to support the >>>>work that they do. Must a be difficult PR thing for them?

    What work are they claiming they do?
    They seem to be a pretty pathetic bunch of spoilt tory twits.

    They are trying to bring some balance in to the news to counter the BBC's >>left wing bias.

    The BBC doesn't have a left-wing bias to need countering. What you're
    really saying is that GBNews has a right-wing bias, well, we all knew that >already.

    I note your opinion and, while you are entitled to hold it of course, I disagree with it entirely.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists
    or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies.

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  • From Bob Latham@21:1/5 to Java Jive on Mon Feb 20 15:38:11 2023
    In article <tsvq65$p2he$1@dont-email.me>,
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
    On 20/02/2023 08:25, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    On 20/02/2023 in message <k5g7ocFcsckU1@mid.individual.net> Brian
    Gregory wrote:

    What work are they claiming they do? They seem to be a pretty
    pathetic bunch of spoilt tory twits.

    Ah the left, go straight to insults as always. Anyone who doesn't
    hold their POV has to be abused with name calling.

    They are trying to bring some balance in to the news to counter
    the BBC's left wing bias.

    The BBC doesn't have a left-wing bias to need countering.

    Lol.

    The BBC hasn't done news as such for at least a decade, many say much
    longer. It doesn't intend to inform, it intends to set public opinion
    to that of the metro elite. It has no intention of representing the
    views of working people. It is a propaganda outlet.

    It filters and twists the news to suit an agenda. People with a none left/narrative POV are not allowed on the BBC or are quickly
    corrected by an "expert".

    If you can't see this then either you never look to other than
    mainstream media to find out what's happening in the world and you're
    simply ignornat or you're happy to suppress the truth as the BBC
    does, presumably for the same objectives.

    GBNews on the other hand, attempts to hold an honest debate and does
    have the left and the right on screen, without 'expert' correction.
    The left who are the self appointed guardians of truth have been
    trying to kill GBNews by blocking most adverts reaching them in a
    despicable attempt to make theirs the only voice.

    GBNews isn't perfect, it also suffers some of the issues of the BBC
    and mainstream media. It is common to see people who hold a modicum
    of common sense branded as being "far right". The left love name
    calling.

    The country has a tory government that is now behaving like Labour
    it's difficult to get a hair between them. High tax, high spend, long
    lock downs, refusing to frack, supporting woke stupidity, etc. etc.
    Socialists rule everything and the country is broken, almost nothing
    works now.

    Welcome to dystopia.


    Bob.

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  • From Java Jive@21:1/5 to Bob Latham on Mon Feb 20 16:31:48 2023
    On 20/02/2023 15:38, Bob Latham wrote:

    In article <tsvq65$p2he$1@dont-email.me>,
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:

    On 20/02/2023 08:25, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    On 20/02/2023 in message <k5g7ocFcsckU1@mid.individual.net> Brian
    Gregory wrote:

    What work are they claiming they do? They seem to be a pretty
    pathetic bunch of spoilt tory twits.

    Ah the left, go straight to insults as always. Anyone who doesn't
    hold their POV has to be abused with name calling.

    It seemed like a fairish description to me, from what little of its
    output that I've actually seen.

    They are trying to bring some balance in to the news to counter
    the BBC's left wing bias.

    The BBC doesn't have a left-wing bias to need countering.

    Lol.

    The BBC hasn't done news as such for at least a decade, many say much
    longer.

    FALSE! This is the BBC news site:
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news

    [Bigoted prejudice stated as if it were fact snipped] >
    Welcome to dystopia.

    You'd know all about that, wouldn't you!

    Bob.

    The liar who keeps claiming to have plonked me is shown to be lying again.

    --

    Fake news kills!

    I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
    www.macfh.co.uk

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  • From Java Jive@21:1/5 to Jeff Gaines on Mon Feb 20 17:19:50 2023
    On 20/02/2023 15:03, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 20/02/2023 in message <tsvq65$p2he$1@dont-email.me> Java Jive wrote:

    On 20/02/2023 08:25, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    On 20/02/2023 in message <k5g7ocFcsckU1@mid.individual.net> Brian
    Gregory wrote:

    [Quoting broken: Adrian Caspersz wrote:]

    GBNews is struggling to find advertisers that are keen to support
    the work that they do. Must a be difficult PR thing for them?

    What work are they claiming they do?
    They seem to be a pretty pathetic bunch of spoilt tory twits.

    They are trying to bring some balance in to the news to counter the
    BBC's left wing bias.

    The BBC doesn't have a left-wing bias to need countering.  What you're
    really saying is that GBNews has a right-wing bias, well, we all knew
    that already.

    I note your opinion and, while you are entitled to hold it of course, I disagree with it entirely.

    I note that you appear to have missed the point of my link completely,
    quite possibly not even bothering to read it, so, perhaps
    unsurprisingly, I'll have to spell it out to you ...

    The income of the BBC and the other three main UK TV channels depends on
    wider sources than advertising during news broadcasting, so there is no commercial need for any of them to present news to please a particular audience, and this tends to allow them to be more independent and
    neutral than organisations such as Fox News, GB News, or Talk Radio that target, and therefore become dependent on feeding, the prejudices of a particular audience. Fox News *OUGHT* not to appear in the above list,
    because it is part of one of the biggest cable networks in the US, which
    should allow it to be independent of the need to slavishly follow
    ratings, but it has had such a long history of misinformation arising
    from its right-wing bias that apparently now, as the court case reports
    are revealing, it feels compelled to keep feeding those prejudices which
    it itself has played a such a large part in inciting, even to the point
    of allowing itself, cynically and unjustifiably without a shred of
    actual evidence as their own staff have themselves acknowledged, in
    effect to sow widespread mistrust in the entire US electoral system.

    Those are the sorts of problems created when news organisations are
    allowed to misrepresent basic facts and/or lie to the public. As the old-fashioned children's Cautionary Tale rhyme goes:

    "Oh what a dreadful web we weave
    When first we practise to deceive!"

    --

    Fake news kills!

    I may be contacted via the contact address given on my website:
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  • From Jeff Gaines@21:1/5 to Java Jive on Mon Feb 20 19:07:31 2023
    On 20/02/2023 in message <tt0a3r$qnmh$1@dont-email.me> Java Jive wrote:

    On 20/02/2023 15:03, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 20/02/2023 in message <tsvq65$p2he$1@dont-email.me> Java Jive wrote:

    On 20/02/2023 08:25, Jeff Gaines wrote:

    On 20/02/2023 in message <k5g7ocFcsckU1@mid.individual.net> Brian >>>>Gregory wrote:

    [Quoting broken: Adrian Caspersz wrote:]

    GBNews is struggling to find advertisers that are keen to support the >>>>>>work that they do. Must a be difficult PR thing for them?

    What work are they claiming they do?
    They seem to be a pretty pathetic bunch of spoilt tory twits.

    They are trying to bring some balance in to the news to counter the >>>>BBC's left wing bias.

    The BBC doesn't have a left-wing bias to need countering.  What you're >>>really saying is that GBNews has a right-wing bias, well, we all knew >>>that already.

    I note your opinion and, while you are entitled to hold it of course, I >>disagree with it entirely.

    I note that you appear to have missed the point of my link completely,
    quite possibly not even bothering to read it, so, perhaps unsurprisingly, >I'll have to spell it out to you ...

    I don't think so, you expressed an opinion and I disagree with it but it's
    your choice.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it whether it exists
    or not, diagnosing it incorrectly, and applying the wrong remedies.

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  • From Owen Rees@21:1/5 to Java Jive on Mon Feb 20 20:22:35 2023
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
    …
    … As the
    old-fashioned children's Cautionary Tale rhyme goes:

    "Oh what a dreadful web we weave
    When first we practise to deceive!"

    "Oh, what a tangled web we weave,/ When first we practise to deceive!" From Marmion by Sir Walter Scott. A historical romance in verse, not a
    children’s tale.

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  • From Java Jive@21:1/5 to Owen Rees on Mon Feb 20 21:27:22 2023
    On 20/02/2023 20:22, Owen Rees wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
    …
    … As the
    old-fashioned children's Cautionary Tale rhyme goes:

    "Oh what a dreadful web we weave
    When first we practise to deceive!"

    "Oh, what a tangled web we weave,/ When first we practise to deceive!" From Marmion by Sir Walter Scott. A historical romance in verse, not a children’s tale.

    Fair enough, I was taught it in school out of that context. Curiously,
    quite by chance, Scott never crossed my path during my childhood, and,
    despite having read many such historical adventures, etc, somehow I've
    never got around to reading any of his!

    Thanks for the correction.

    --

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Java Jive on Tue Feb 21 00:51:16 2023
    On 20/02/2023 05:19 pm, Java Jive wrote:

    As the old-fashioned children's Cautionary Tale rhyme goes:

    Are you sure?

    The quote comes from Scott’s "Marmion: A Tale of Flodden Field" (1808).

    Nothing to do with "cautionary tales", whether by Belloc or anyone else.

    You are really funny. I know you don't mean to be, but you are.

    "Oh what a dreadful web we weave
    When first we practise to deceive!"

    Oh... and it's "tangled", not "dreadful".

    And "practice", "not "practise".

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  • From JNugent@21:1/5 to Owen Rees on Tue Feb 21 00:51:54 2023
    On 20/02/2023 08:22 pm, Owen Rees wrote:
    Java Jive <java@evij.com.invalid> wrote:
    …
    … As the
    old-fashioned children's Cautionary Tale rhyme goes:

    "Oh what a dreadful web we weave
    When first we practise to deceive!"

    "Oh, what a tangled web we weave,/ When first we practise to deceive!" From Marmion by Sir Walter Scott. A historical romance in verse, not a children’s tale.

    +1.

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  • From Norman Wells@21:1/5 to JNugent on Tue Feb 21 08:57:37 2023
    On 21/02/2023 00:51, JNugent wrote:
    On 20/02/2023 05:19 pm, Java Jive wrote:

    As the old-fashioned children's Cautionary Tale rhyme goes:

    Are you sure?

    The quote comes from Scott’s "Marmion: A Tale of Flodden Field" (1808).

    Nothing to do with "cautionary tales", whether by Belloc or anyone else.

    You are really funny. I know you don't mean to be, but you are.

    "Oh what a dreadful web we weave
    When first we practise to deceive!"

    Oh... and it's "tangled", not "dreadful".

    And "practice", "not "practise".

    Well, it shouldn't be. The verb is 'practise'; 'practice' is a noun.

    And if Walter Scott used the latter when he should have used the former
    he's not as good as he thinks he is and ought to be ashamed of himself.

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  • From Roderick Stewart@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 21 08:58:31 2023
    On Tue, 21 Feb 2023 00:51:16 +0000, JNugent <jenningsandco@mail.com>
    wrote:

    On 20/02/2023 05:19 pm, Java Jive wrote:

    As the old-fashioned children's Cautionary Tale rhyme goes:

    Are you sure?

    The quote comes from Scott’s "Marmion: A Tale of Flodden Field" (1808).

    Nothing to do with "cautionary tales", whether by Belloc or anyone else.

    You are really funny. I know you don't mean to be, but you are.

    "Oh what a dreadful web we weave
    When first we practise to deceive!"

    Oh... and it's "tangled", not "dreadful".

    And "practice", "not "practise".

    "A little knowledge is a dangerous thing..."

    as many people would quote it.

    Rod.

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