• Wordplay

    From Roderick Stewart@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jul 8 10:22:50 2022
    I see that somebody in The Spectator is already naming yesterday's
    main event as "Borexit".

    Don't you just love the things you can do with English - the best open
    source language in the world.

    Rod.

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  • From Norman Wells@21:1/5 to Roderick Stewart on Fri Jul 8 14:54:46 2022
    On 08/07/2022 10:22, Roderick Stewart wrote:

    I see that somebody in The Spectator is already naming yesterday's
    main event as "Borexit".

    Don't you just love the things you can do with English - the best open
    source language in the world.

    Some junior, sniggering hack, doubtless, who hopes it will catch on so
    that he or she can claim credit down the pub. But it's lazy,
    unoriginal, hackneyed, pointless and tedious in truth, just like adding
    'gate' to any word connected with a scandal.

    I prefer proper reporting and could do without it personally.

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Norman Wells on Fri Jul 8 21:49:10 2022
    "Norman Wells" <hex@unseen.ac.am> wrote in message news:jiqr96FkttlU1@mid.individual.net...
    On 08/07/2022 10:22, Roderick Stewart wrote:

    I see that somebody in The Spectator is already naming yesterday's
    main event as "Borexit".

    Don't you just love the things you can do with English - the best open
    source language in the world.

    Some junior, sniggering hack, doubtless, who hopes it will catch on so
    that he or she can claim credit down the pub. But it's lazy, unoriginal, hackneyed, pointless and tedious in truth, just like adding 'gate' to any word connected with a scandal.

    I prefer proper reporting and could do without it personally.

    I admire the wordplay. I hope the word does catch on. But it needs to be
    backed by proper, more in-depth reporting. There is place for both, even in
    the same article in the same paper.

    English is a wonderful language for inventing new words, based on other
    words (some of which are themselves inventions and extensions of established English). But is it true that other languages like French, German, Italian, Spanish don't do it to the same extent. Are they more restricted by grammar rules (multiple genders, need for adjectives to agree with those genders,
    need for word endings to agree with everything) than English? Is English
    more willing to borrow foreign words and anglicise them than other languages are to borrow foreign words and meld them into their own language?

    But I agree about -gate :-(

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to me@privacy.invalid on Sat Jul 9 07:58:59 2022
    Most of the German language seems to be whole words grafted onto each other.

    Personally I feel that trying to squeeze lots of different peoples views
    into just a few big parties is the man reason we keep on seeing a complete
    mess at the top.
    Brian

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    "Norman Wells" <hex@unseen.ac.am> wrote in message news:jiqr96FkttlU1@mid.individual.net...
    On 08/07/2022 10:22, Roderick Stewart wrote:

    I see that somebody in The Spectator is already naming yesterday's
    main event as "Borexit".

    Don't you just love the things you can do with English - the best open
    source language in the world.

    Some junior, sniggering hack, doubtless, who hopes it will catch on so
    that he or she can claim credit down the pub. But it's lazy, unoriginal,
    hackneyed, pointless and tedious in truth, just like adding 'gate' to any
    word connected with a scandal.

    I prefer proper reporting and could do without it personally.

    I admire the wordplay. I hope the word does catch on. But it needs to be backed by proper, more in-depth reporting. There is place for both, even
    in the same article in the same paper.

    English is a wonderful language for inventing new words, based on other
    words (some of which are themselves inventions and extensions of
    established English). But is it true that other languages like French, German, Italian, Spanish don't do it to the same extent. Are they more restricted by grammar rules (multiple genders, need for adjectives to
    agree with those genders, need for word endings to agree with everything) than English? Is English more willing to borrow foreign words and
    anglicise them than other languages are to borrow foreign words and meld
    them into their own language?

    But I agree about -gate :-(

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to Roderick Stewart on Sat Jul 9 07:55:08 2022
    Not really in this case,

    I mean an ex prime minister was shot to death in Japan yesterday. I heard it first on RTE.




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    "Roderick Stewart" <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message news:iitfchtun1jfo0cne92ah1b4llst86nasf@4ax.com...
    I see that somebody in The Spectator is already naming yesterday's
    main event as "Borexit".

    Don't you just love the things you can do with English - the best open
    source language in the world.

    Rod.

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  • From Norman Wells@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Sat Jul 9 08:36:25 2022
    On 09/07/2022 07:55, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Not really in this case,

    I mean an ex prime minister was shot to death in Japan yesterday. I heard it first on RTE.

    It wouldn't surprise me if some wag at the Spectator was already calling
    that 'Abeexit' just to be amusing and clever.

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  • From John Hall@21:1/5 to Stewart on Sat Jul 9 10:14:35 2022
    In message <iitfchtun1jfo0cne92ah1b4llst86nasf@4ax.com>, Roderick
    Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> writes
    I see that somebody in The Spectator is already naming yesterday's
    main event as "Borexit".

    Don't you just love the things you can do with English - the best open
    source language in the world.

    Rod.

    The trouble with "Borexit" is that it brings to mind - to my mind at
    least - the word "boring", and whatever else Boris has been no one could
    accuse him of that.
    --
    John Hall
    "Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
    But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
    Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

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  • From williamwright@21:1/5 to John Hall on Sat Jul 9 22:19:12 2022
    On 09/07/2022 10:14, John Hall wrote:
    In message <iitfchtun1jfo0cne92ah1b4llst86nasf@4ax.com>, Roderick
    Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> writes
    I see that somebody in The Spectator is already naming yesterday's
    main event as "Borexit".

    Don't you just love the things you can do with English - the best open
    source language in the world.

    Rod.

    The trouble with "Borexit" is that it brings to mind - to my mind at
    least - the word "boring", and whatever else Boris has been no one could accuse him of that.

    What about Johnsexit? That has 'sex' in it so seems appropriate.

    Bill

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  • From John Hall@21:1/5 to wrightsaerials@f2s.com on Sun Jul 10 08:24:02 2022
    In message <jiu9mgF7e68U1@mid.individual.net>, williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> writes
    On 09/07/2022 10:14, John Hall wrote:
    In message <iitfchtun1jfo0cne92ah1b4llst86nasf@4ax.com>, Roderick
    Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> writes
    I see that somebody in The Spectator is already naming yesterday's
    main event as "Borexit".

    Don't you just love the things you can do with English - the best open
    source language in the world.

    Rod.
    The trouble with "Borexit" is that it brings to mind - to my mind at >>least - the word "boring", and whatever else Boris has been no one
    could accuse him of that.

    What about Johnsexit? That has 'sex' in it so seems appropriate.

    Bill

    :)

    Borisexit would also work, though with four syllables I suppose it
    doesn't really trip off the tongue.
    --
    John Hall
    "Home is heaven and orgies are vile,
    But you *need* an orgy, once in a while."
    Ogden Nash (1902-1971)

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  • From Owen Rees@21:1/5 to John Hall on Sun Jul 10 11:20:53 2022
    John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <jiu9mgF7e68U1@mid.individual.net>, williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> writes
    On 09/07/2022 10:14, John Hall wrote:
    In message <iitfchtun1jfo0cne92ah1b4llst86nasf@4ax.com>, Roderick
    Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> writes
    I see that somebody in The Spectator is already naming yesterday's
    main event as "Borexit".

    Don't you just love the things you can do with English - the best open >>>> source language in the world.

    Rod.
    The trouble with "Borexit" is that it brings to mind - to my mind at
    least - the word "boring", and whatever else Boris has been no one
    could accuse him of that.

    What about Johnsexit? That has 'sex' in it so seems appropriate.

    Bill

    :)

    Borisexit would also work, though with four syllables I suppose it
    doesn't really trip off the tongue.

    If we need a word then Bogone would work better I think.

    Those familiar with the jargon used in some technical circles will know
    that bogon is the elementary particle of bogosity so I think it fits quite well. Being a homophone is a bonus in that context.

    The slogan “Get Bogone Done” also works.

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  • From Indy Jess John@21:1/5 to All on Sun Jul 10 13:00:57 2022
    On 08/07/2022 21:49, NY wrote:
    English is a wonderful language for inventing new words, based on other
    words (some of which are themselves inventions and extensions of
    established English). But is it true that other languages like French, German, Italian, Spanish don't do it to the same extent.

    French is strictly policed. They frown on "le weekend" even though there
    is no convenient French word to convey that idea and la fin de la
    semaine seems clumsy.

    They do do puns though. I heard lemon squash described as citron au téléphone and when I asked why I was told it was toujours à l'eau

    Jim

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  • From Roderick Stewart@21:1/5 to orees@hotmail.com on Sun Jul 10 13:35:36 2022
    On Sun, 10 Jul 2022 11:20:53 -0000 (UTC), Owen Rees
    <orees@hotmail.com> wrote:

    John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk> wrote:
    In message <jiu9mgF7e68U1@mid.individual.net>, williamwright
    <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> writes
    On 09/07/2022 10:14, John Hall wrote:
    In message <iitfchtun1jfo0cne92ah1b4llst86nasf@4ax.com>, Roderick
    Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> writes
    I see that somebody in The Spectator is already naming yesterday's
    main event as "Borexit".

    Don't you just love the things you can do with English - the best open >>>>> source language in the world.

    Rod.
    The trouble with "Borexit" is that it brings to mind - to my mind at
    least - the word "boring", and whatever else Boris has been no one
    could accuse him of that.

    What about Johnsexit? That has 'sex' in it so seems appropriate.

    Bill

    :)

    Borisexit would also work, though with four syllables I suppose it
    doesn't really trip off the tongue.

    If we need a word then Bogone would work better I think.

    Those familiar with the jargon used in some technical circles will know
    that bogon is the elementary particle of bogosity so I think it fits quite >well. Being a homophone is a bonus in that context.

    The slogan Get Bogone Done also works.

    Sounds a bit like the Australian term "bogan", which seems to be a
    term of dirapproval of some sort. So that'll do nicely.

    Talking of particles, should we expect to see in the news that the
    physicists at CERN are searching for the Higgs Bogon?

    Rod.

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  • From Sn!pe@21:1/5 to Indy Jess John on Sun Jul 10 23:55:21 2022
    Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> wrote:

    On 08/07/2022 21:49, NY wrote:
    English is a wonderful language for inventing new words, based on other words (some of which are themselves inventions and extensions of established English). But is it true that other languages like French, German, Italian, Spanish don't do it to the same extent.

    French is strictly policed. They frown on "le weekend" even though there
    is no convenient French word to convey that idea and la fin de la
    semaine seems clumsy.

    They do do puns though. I heard lemon squash described as citron au tlphone and when I asked why I was told it was toujours l'eau

    Jim

    A l'eau, c'est l'heure.

    --
    ^^ My pet rock Gordon just is.

    ~ Slava Ukraini ~

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to snipeco.2@gmail.com on Mon Jul 11 09:19:12 2022
    In article <1puwic9.1e2odkx17tn2olN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>, Sn!pe <snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
    Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> wrote:

    On 08/07/2022 21:49, NY wrote:
    English is a wonderful language for inventing new words, based on
    other words (some of which are themselves inventions and extensions
    of established English). But is it true that other languages like
    French, German, Italian, Spanish don't do it to the same extent.

    French is strictly policed. They frown on "le weekend" even though
    there is no convenient French word to convey that idea and la fin de la semaine seems clumsy.

    They do do puns though. I heard lemon squash described as citron au tlphone and when I asked why I was told it was toujours l'eau

    Jim

    A l'eau, c'est l'heure.

    or even "bon jour, matelot"

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From Martin@21:1/5 to charles on Sat Jul 16 11:54:04 2022
    On Mon, 11 Jul 2022 09:19:12 +0100, charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:

    In article <1puwic9.1e2odkx17tn2olN%snipeco.2@gmail.com>, Sn!pe ><snipeco.2@gmail.com> wrote:
    Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> wrote:

    On 08/07/2022 21:49, NY wrote:
    English is a wonderful language for inventing new words, based on
    other words (some of which are themselves inventions and extensions
    of established English). But is it true that other languages like
    French, German, Italian, Spanish don't do it to the same extent.

    French is strictly policed. They frown on "le weekend" even though
    there is no convenient French word to convey that idea and la fin de la
    semaine seems clumsy.

    Policed by Academie Franaise, the same organisation which started on rationalising the words used for counting, but for some reason never finished with the result that other French speaking countries have different words for some numbers.



    They do do puns though. I heard lemon squash described as citron au
    tlphone and when I asked why I was told it was toujours l'eau

    Jim

    A l'eau, c'est l'heure.

    or even "bon jour, matelot"

    Creme de la creme Trig.
    --

    Martin in Zuid Holland

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