On 09/05/2022 15:48, SH wrote:
Just been reading the licensee licence on OFCOM.
The long-stop closure date is 30th June which is now 52 days away.....
Does anyone know if the channels on mux 7 will just simply close or be
transferred to the other 6 multiplexes with either channel shuffle or
reduced bit rates?
Any mention of the SD muxes being converted to HD?
I hear rumblings (today funilly enough) that some channels might get re-homed in the some of other muxes.
Watch this space, nothing is public domain yet
Just been reading the licensee licence on OFCOM.
The long-stop closure date is 30th June which is now 52 days away.....
Does anyone know if the channels on mux 7 will just simply close or be >transferred to the other 6 multiplexes with either channel shuffle or
reduced bit rates?
Just been reading the licensee licence on OFCOM.
The long-stop closure date is 30th June which is now 52 days away.....
Does anyone know if the channels on mux 7 will just simply close or be transferred to the other 6 multiplexes with either channel shuffle or
reduced bit rates?
Any mention of the SD muxes being converted to HD?
On 09/05/2022 15:58, Mark Carver wrote:
On 09/05/2022 15:48, SH wrote:
Just been reading the licensee licence on OFCOM.
The long-stop closure date is 30th June which is now 52 days away.....
Does anyone know if the channels on mux 7 will just simply close or
be transferred to the other 6 multiplexes with either channel
shuffle or reduced bit rates?
Any mention of the SD muxes being converted to HD?
I hear rumblings (today funilly enough) that some channels might get
re-homed in the some of other muxes.
Watch this space, nothing is public domain yet
normally with OFCOM you get notice well in advance of any major
engineering changes at the Tx network level..... far more notice than
52 days.....
As for rehoming into existing muxes, will that mean reduced bitrates
for the current mux occupants or closure of some channels or reduced broadcast hours?
On 09/05/2022 16:13, SH wrote:
On 09/05/2022 15:58, Mark Carver wrote:
On 09/05/2022 15:48, SH wrote:
Just been reading the licensee licence on OFCOM.
The long-stop closure date is 30th June which is now 52 days away..... >>>>
Does anyone know if the channels on mux 7 will just simply close or
be transferred to the other 6 multiplexes with either channel
shuffle or reduced bit rates?
Any mention of the SD muxes being converted to HD?
I hear rumblings (today funilly enough) that some channels might get
re-homed in the some of other muxes.
Watch this space, nothing is public domain yet
normally with OFCOM you get notice well in advance of any major
engineering changes at the Tx network level..... far more notice than
52 days.....
They confirmed at a CAI event a few months ago that COM7 would cease
next month. Apparently the channels that are on the mux are under no regulatory or contractual obligation to give notice to the viewers that
they will cease on COM7, so some probably won't and just suddenly
vanish. At least Russia Today were overtaken by other events !
Dunno/Can't say
As for rehoming into existing muxes, will that mean reduced bitrates
for the current mux occupants or closure of some channels or reduced
broadcast hours?
On 09/05/2022 16:20, Mark Carver wrote:
On 09/05/2022 16:13, SH wrote:
On 09/05/2022 15:58, Mark Carver wrote:
On 09/05/2022 15:48, SH wrote:
Just been reading the licensee licence on OFCOM.
The long-stop closure date is 30th June which is now 52 days away..... >>>>>
Does anyone know if the channels on mux 7 will just simply close or be >>>>> transferred to the other 6 multiplexes with either channel shuffle or >>>>> reduced bit rates?
Any mention of the SD muxes being converted to HD?
I hear rumblings (today funilly enough) that some channels might get
re-homed in the some of other muxes.
Watch this space, nothing is public domain yet
normally with OFCOM you get notice well in advance of any major
engineering changes at the Tx network level..... far more notice than 52 >>> days.....
They confirmed at a CAI event a few months ago that COM7 would cease next
month. Apparently the channels that are on the mux are under no
regulatory or contractual obligation to give notice to the viewers that
they will cease on COM7, so some probably won't and just suddenly vanish.
At least Russia Today were overtaken by other events !
Dunno/Can't say
As for rehoming into existing muxes, will that mean reduced bitrates for >>> the current mux occupants or closure of some channels or reduced
broadcast hours?
Any further news about the remaining channels on Com 7 apart from Forces
TV closing. BBC News 24 HD closing and the remaining BBC channels moving
to PSB3?
I'm surprised at the lack of news given that Com 7 closure is 13 days away.....
Normally one starts getting an onscreen message saying your TV (s) will
need returning on XX/YY/ZZ date.
On 09/05/2022 16:20, Mark Carver wrote:
On 09/05/2022 16:13, SH wrote:
On 09/05/2022 15:58, Mark Carver wrote:
On 09/05/2022 15:48, SH wrote:
Just been reading the licensee licence on OFCOM.
The long-stop closure date is 30th June which is now 52 days away..... >>>>>
Does anyone know if the channels on mux 7 will just simply close or be >>>>> transferred to the other 6 multiplexes with either channel shuffle or >>>>> reduced bit rates?
Any mention of the SD muxes being converted to HD?
I hear rumblings (today funilly enough) that some channels might get
re-homed in the some of other muxes.
Watch this space, nothing is public domain yet
normally with OFCOM you get notice well in advance of any major
engineering changes at the Tx network level..... far more notice than 52 >>> days.....
They confirmed at a CAI event a few months ago that COM7 would cease next
month. Apparently the channels that are on the mux are under no
regulatory or contractual obligation to give notice to the viewers that
they will cease on COM7, so some probably won't and just suddenly vanish.
At least Russia Today were overtaken by other events !
Dunno/Can't say
As for rehoming into existing muxes, will that mean reduced bitrates for >>> the current mux occupants or closure of some channels or reduced
broadcast hours?
Any further news about the remaining channels on Com 7 apart from Forces
TV closing. BBC News 24 HD closing and the remaining BBC channels moving
to PSB3?
I'm surprised at the lack of news given that Com 7 closure is 13 days away.....
Normally one starts getting an onscreen message saying your TV (s) will
need returning on XX/YY/ZZ date.
On 09/05/2022 16:20, Mark Carver wrote:
On 09/05/2022 16:13, SH wrote:
On 09/05/2022 15:58, Mark Carver wrote:
On 09/05/2022 15:48, SH wrote:
Just been reading the licensee licence on OFCOM.
The long-stop closure date is 30th June which is now 52 days
away.....
Does anyone know if the channels on mux 7 will just simply close
or be transferred to the other 6 multiplexes with either channel
shuffle or reduced bit rates?
Any mention of the SD muxes being converted to HD?
I hear rumblings (today funilly enough) that some channels might
get re-homed in the some of other muxes.
Watch this space, nothing is public domain yet
normally with OFCOM you get notice well in advance of any major
engineering changes at the Tx network level..... far more notice
than 52 days.....
They confirmed at a CAI event a few months ago that COM7 would cease
next month. Apparently the channels that are on the mux are under no
regulatory or contractual obligation to give notice to the viewers
that they will cease on COM7, so some probably won't and just
suddenly vanish. At least Russia Today were overtaken by other events ! >>>
As for rehoming into existing muxes, will that mean reduced bitratesDunno/Can't say
for the current mux occupants or closure of some channels or reduced
broadcast hours?
Any further news about the remaining channels on Com 7 apart from
Forces TV closing. BBC News 24 HD closing and the remaining BBC
channels moving to PSB3?
I'm surprised at the lack of news given that Com 7 closure is 13 days away.....
 Normally one starts getting an onscreen message saying your TV (s)
will need returning on XX/YY/ZZ date.
On 17/06/2022 10:21, SH wrote:
On 09/05/2022 16:20, Mark Carver wrote:
On 09/05/2022 16:13, SH wrote:
On 09/05/2022 15:58, Mark Carver wrote:
On 09/05/2022 15:48, SH wrote:
Just been reading the licensee licence on OFCOM.
The long-stop closure date is 30th June which is now 52 days
away.....
Does anyone know if the channels on mux 7 will just simply close
or be transferred to the other 6 multiplexes with either channel
shuffle or reduced bit rates?
Any mention of the SD muxes being converted to HD?
I hear rumblings (today funilly enough) that some channels might
get re-homed in the some of other muxes.
Watch this space, nothing is public domain yet
normally with OFCOM you get notice well in advance of any major
engineering changes at the Tx network level..... far more notice
than 52 days.....
They confirmed at a CAI event a few months ago that COM7 would cease
next month. Apparently the channels that are on the mux are under no
regulatory or contractual obligation to give notice to the viewers
that they will cease on COM7, so some probably won't and just
suddenly vanish. At least Russia Today were overtaken by other events ! >>>>
As for rehoming into existing muxes, will that mean reduced bitratesDunno/Can't say
for the current mux occupants or closure of some channels or reduced
broadcast hours?
Any further news about the remaining channels on Com 7 apart from
Forces TV closing. BBC News 24 HD closing and the remaining BBC
channels moving to PSB3?
I'm surprised at the lack of news given that Com 7 closure is 13 days
away.....
Normally one starts getting an onscreen message saying your TV (s)
will need returning on XX/YY/ZZ date.
As I've said many times, the broadcasters on COM 7 are under no
regulatory obligation to inform the viewer of anything.
Forces TV have said they are closing, in fact their last programme ends
at 11am on June 30th, which means they can probably run a caption
explaining the situation until midnight.
Possibly the other channels will do similar.
The Beeb have announced the fate of BBC 4/Cbeebs and BBC News Ch, but
I've not seen any warnings/info pop up on screen yet.
There won't be a retune notice about BBC 4/Cbeebs until PSB 3 is
actually carrying the stream. When it does, then presumably the PSB 3 >versions will adopt the LCNs, and the COM 7 versions will get a
'graveyard' LCNs (normally 7XX)
Pity about Forces TV, since its often running old stuff nobody else does.
I would imagine other channels will pick up the programs instead though.
How many people in the UK do not get these channels and only get the main ones. I'm really surprised that there are so many hd shopping channels it would seem rather a forgotten way to get offers given the internet being
so popular.
"Brian Gaff" <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote in message news:t8ho8k$o57$1@dont-email.me...
Pity about Forces TV, since its often running old stuff nobody else
does. I would imagine other channels will pick up the programs
instead though. How many people in the UK do not get these channels
and only get the main ones. I'm really surprised that there are so
many hd shopping channels it would seem rather a forgotten way to get
offers given the internet being so popular.
Is it pure chance that Forces TV is closing completely (including on satellite 11836H) at the same time as they are losing their slot on COM7?
On 17/06/2022 16:51, NY wrote:
"Brian Gaff" <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:t8ho8k$o57$1@dont-email.me...
Pity about Forces TV, since its often running old stuff nobody else
does. I would imagine other channels will pick up the programs instead
though. How many people in the UK do not get these channels and only get >>> the main ones. I'm really surprised that there are so many hd shopping
channels it would seem rather a forgotten way to get offers given the
internet being so popular.
Is it pure chance that Forces TV is closing completely (including on
satellite 11836H) at the same time as they are losing their slot on COM7?
The closure of COM 7 seems to be the catalyst for Forces TV to throw in
the towel. I suspect their viewer base is predominately Freeview.
Don't forget it's been known for 2 or 3 years that the 'back stop' for COM
7 is June 2022, so they may well have decided months ago to give up this month, and adjusted their contracts with Sky and Freesat accordingly well
in advance.
Don't assume any of this is a recent decision.
"Brian Gaff" <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote in message news:t8ho8k$o57$1@dont-email.me...
Pity about Forces TV, since its often running old stuff nobody else does.
I would imagine other channels will pick up the programs instead though.
How many people in the UK do not get these channels and only get the main
ones. I'm really surprised that there are so many hd shopping channels it
would seem rather a forgotten way to get offers given the internet being
so popular.
Is it pure chance that Forces TV is closing completely (including on satellite 11836H) at the same time as they are losing their slot on COM7?
I wonder if they decided that the advertising revenue from satellite only wasn't enough to pay their bills. Shame. I'd much rather a few shopping or religious channels had closed instead.
On 17/06/2022 10:21, SH wrote:
On 09/05/2022 16:20, Mark Carver wrote:
On 09/05/2022 16:13, SH wrote:
On 09/05/2022 15:58, Mark Carver wrote:
On 09/05/2022 15:48, SH wrote:
Just been reading the licensee licence on OFCOM.
The long-stop closure date is 30th June which is now 52 days
away.....
Does anyone know if the channels on mux 7 will just simply close or >>>>>> be transferred to the other 6 multiplexes with either channel shuffle >>>>>> or reduced bit rates?
Any mention of the SD muxes being converted to HD?
I hear rumblings (today funilly enough) that some channels might get >>>>> re-homed in the some of other muxes.
Watch this space, nothing is public domain yet
normally with OFCOM you get notice well in advance of any major
engineering changes at the Tx network level..... far more notice than
52 days.....
They confirmed at a CAI event a few months ago that COM7 would cease
next month. Apparently the channels that are on the mux are under no
regulatory or contractual obligation to give notice to the viewers that
they will cease on COM7, so some probably won't and just suddenly
vanish. At least Russia Today were overtaken by other events !
Dunno/Can't say
As for rehoming into existing muxes, will that mean reduced bitrates
for the current mux occupants or closure of some channels or reduced
broadcast hours?
Any further news about the remaining channels on Com 7 apart from Forces
TV closing. BBC News 24 HD closing and the remaining BBC channels moving
to PSB3?
I'm surprised at the lack of news given that Com 7 closure is 13 days
away.....
Normally one starts getting an onscreen message saying your TV (s) will
need returning on XX/YY/ZZ date.
As I've said many times, the broadcasters on COM 7 are under no regulatory obligation to inform the viewer of anything.
Forces TV have said they are closing, in fact their last programme ends at 11am on June 30th, which means they can probably run a caption explaining
the situation until midnight.
Possibly the other channels will do similar.
The Beeb have announced the fate of BBC 4/Cbeebs and BBC News Ch, but I've not seen any warnings/info pop up on screen yet.
There won't be a retune notice about BBC 4/Cbeebs until PSB 3 is actually carrying the stream. When it does, then presumably the PSB 3 versions will adopt the LCNs, and the COM 7 versions will get a 'graveyard' LCNs
(normally 7XX)
I cannot understand the closure of News 24 though
On 18/06/2022 10:33, Brian Gaff wrote:
BBC News 24 closed over 14 years ago, it was replaced by the BBC News
I cannot understand the closure of News 24 though,
Channel :-)
Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 18/06/2022 10:33, Brian Gaff wrote:Same thing though isn’t it? Just a rebrand. You could equally well argue that BBC1 closed down in favour of BBC One.
I cannot understand the closure of News 24 though,BBC News 24 closed over 14 years ago, it was replaced by the BBC News
Channel :-)
Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 18/06/2022 12:40, Tweed wrote:Sorry, wasn’t really aimed at you. Just my general grumpiness about rebranding exercises. Pleased to see the new news studio got some flack on Newswatch this morning. I liked the theory from one viewer that it was all about increasing Huw Edwards’ step count.
Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:Lighten up, why do you think I added a smiley ?
On 18/06/2022 10:33, Brian Gaff wrote:Same thing though isn’t it? Just a rebrand. You could equally well argue >>> that BBC1 closed down in favour of BBC One.
I cannot understand the closure of News 24 though,BBC News 24 closed over 14 years ago, it was replaced by the BBC News
Channel :-)
On 18/06/2022 12:40, Tweed wrote:
Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:Lighten up, why do you think I added a smiley ?
On 18/06/2022 10:33, Brian Gaff wrote:Same thing though isn’t it? Just a rebrand. You could equally well argue >> that BBC1 closed down in favour of BBC One.
I cannot understand the closure of News 24 though,BBC News 24 closed over 14 years ago, it was replaced by the BBC News
Channel :-)
I cannot understand the closure of News 24 though,BBC News 24 closed over 14 years ago, it was replaced by the BBC News
Sorry, wasn’t really aimed at you. Just my general grumpiness about rebranding exercises. Pleased to see the new news studio got some flack on Newswatch this morning. I liked the theory from one viewer that it was all about increasing Huw Edwards’ step count.
BBC News 24 closed over 14 years ago, it was replaced by the BBC News Channel:-)
On 18/06/2022 13:00, Tweed wrote:
Sorry, wasn’t really aimed at you. Just my general grumpiness about
rebranding exercises. Pleased to see the new news studio got some flack on >> Newswatch this morning. I liked the theory from one viewer that it was all >> about increasing Huw Edwards’ step count.
Some still talk about the Home Service and Light Programme, is it Radio
1 or Radio One now?
On 17/06/2022 16:51, NY wrote:
"Brian Gaff" <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:t8ho8k$o57$1@dont-email.me...
Pity about Forces TV, since its often running old stuff nobody else
does. I would imagine other channels will pick up the programs
instead though. How many people in the UK do not get these channels
and only get the main ones. I'm really surprised that there are so
many hd shopping channels it would seem rather a forgotten way to get
offers given the internet being so popular.
Is it pure chance that Forces TV is closing completely (including on
satellite 11836H) at the same time as they are losing their slot on COM7?
The closure of COM 7 seems to be the catalyst for Forces TV to throw in
the towel. I suspect their viewer base is predominately Freeview.
Don't forget it's been known for 2 or 3 years that the 'back stop' for
COM 7 is June 2022, so they may well have decided months ago to give up
this month, and adjusted their contracts with Sky and Freesat
accordingly well in advance.
Don't assume any of this is a recent decision.
On 17/06/2022 16:51, NY wrote:
"Brian Gaff" <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:t8ho8k$o57$1@dont-email.me...
Pity about Forces TV, since its often running old stuff nobody else
does. I would imagine other channels will pick up the programs
instead though. How many people in the UK do not get these channels
and only get the main ones. I'm really surprised that there are so
many hd shopping channels it would seem rather a forgotten way to get
offers given the internet being so popular.
Is it pure chance that Forces TV is closing completely (including on
satellite 11836H) at the same time as they are losing their slot on COM7?
The closure of COM 7 seems to be the catalyst for Forces TV to throw in
the towel. I suspect their viewer base is predominately Freeview.
Don't forget it's been known for 2 or 3 years that the 'back stop' for
COM 7 is June 2022, so they may well have decided months ago to give up
this month, and adjusted their contracts with Sky and Freesat
accordingly well in advance.
Don't assume any of this is a recent decision.
Surely the costs of running the channel should be way if they just
stayed on satellite?
On 17/06/2022 17:00, Mark Carver wrote:
On 17/06/2022 16:51, NY wrote:
"Brian Gaff" <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:t8ho8k$o57$1@dont-email.me...
Pity about Forces TV, since its often running old stuff nobody else
does. I would imagine other channels will pick up the programs
instead though. How many people in the UK do not get these channels
and only get the main ones. I'm really surprised that there are so
many hd shopping channels it would seem rather a forgotten way to
get offers given the internet being so popular.
Is it pure chance that Forces TV is closing completely (including on
satellite 11836H) at the same time as they are losing their slot on
COM7?
The closure of COM 7 seems to be the catalyst for Forces TV to throw
in the towel. I suspect their viewer base is predominately Freeview.
Don't forget it's been known for 2 or 3 years that the 'back stop'
for COM 7 is June 2022, so they may well have decided months ago to
give up this month, and adjusted their contracts with Sky and
Freesat accordingly well in advance.
Don't assume any of this is a recent decision.
Surely the costs of running the channel should be way lower if they
just stayed on satellite?
On 18/06/2022 13:00, Tweed wrote:
Sorry, wasn???t really aimed at you. Just my general grumpiness about
rebranding exercises. Pleased to see the new news studio got some flack on >> Newswatch this morning. I liked the theory from one viewer that it was all >> about increasing Huw Edwards??? step count.
Some still talk about the Home Service and Light Programme, is it Radio
1 or Radio One now?
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 18/06/2022 13:00, Tweed wrote:
Sorry, wasn’t really aimed at you. Just my general grumpiness about
rebranding exercises. Pleased to see the new news studio got some flack on >>> Newswatch this morning. I liked the theory from one viewer that it was all >>> about increasing Huw Edwards’ step count.
Some still talk about the Home Service and Light Programme, is it Radio
1 or Radio One now?
Nothing so crass as Radio 1 in the days of the Home Service and Light Programme.
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