There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal software
to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and just like with computers, the only option is often to unplug and start it again. This time the channel announcements got scrambled and Alexa stopped working and the wired net connection could not be seen. As to what caused it, Apparently plugging in an hdmi plug from the pc, which I've done many times before with no issues.
Brian
There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal
software to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and
just like with computers, the only option is often to unplug and
start it again. This time the channel announcements got scrambled and
Alexa stopped working and the wired net connection could not be seen.
As to what caused it, Apparently plugging in an hdmi plug from the
pc, which I've done many times before with no issues.
Brian
We have a Cello TV set,
There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal software
to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and just like with computers, the only option is often to unplug and start it again. This time the channel announcements got scrambled and Alexa stopped working and the wired net connection could not be seen. As to what caused it, Apparently plugging in an hdmi plug from the pc, which I've done many times before with no issues.
Brian
On 06/05/2022 09:57, Davey wrote:
We have a Cello TV set,
Aren't they rather dreadful?
Do you have your TV configured to do automatic software updates? I just wondered if that could be a reason for a sudden change into "confused
mode". My Panasonic seems pretty stable, although there was one time when
an update screwed some things up.
--
Jeff
On 06/05/2022 08:30, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal
software
to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and just like with
computers, the only option is often to unplug and start it again. This
time
the channel announcements got scrambled and Alexa stopped working and the
wired net connection could not be seen. As to what caused it, Apparently
plugging in an hdmi plug from the pc, which I've done many times before
with
no issues.
Brian
On 06/05/2022 09:57, Davey wrote:
We have a Cello TV set,
Aren't they rather dreadful?
Bill
On 06/05/2022 08:30 am, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal
software
to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and just like with
computers, the only option is often to unplug and start it again. This
time
the channel announcements got scrambled and Alexa stopped working and the
wired net connection could not be seen. As to what caused it, Apparently
plugging in an hdmi plug from the pc, which I've done many times
before with
no issues.
Brian
It happens with various PVRs (including Sky+HD) as well.
I have seen instructions for various boxes which recommend making the
HDMI connections before powering on. There must be a reason for it,
surely?
On 06/05/2022 17:11, JNugent wrote:
On 06/05/2022 08:30 am, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal
software
to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and just like
with
computers, the only option is often to unplug and start it again.
This time
the channel announcements got scrambled and Alexa stopped working and
the
wired net connection could not be seen. As to what caused it, Apparently >>> plugging in an hdmi plug from the pc, which I've done many times
before with
no issues.
Brian
It happens with various PVRs (including Sky+HD) as well.
I have seen instructions for various boxes which recommend making the
HDMI connections before powering on. There must be a reason for it,
surely?
On Fri, 6 May 2022 08:30:21 +0100
"Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal
software to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and
just like with computers, the only option is often to unplug and
start it again. This time the channel announcements got scrambled and
Alexa stopped working and the wired net connection could not be seen.
As to what caused it, Apparently plugging in an hdmi plug from the
pc, which I've done many times before with no issues.
Brian
We have a Cello TV set, and originally it would easily get confused by
any set of remote control key presses that didn't mean anything, instead
of just waiting for a real instruction, it would clam up and sulk. It's better now, maybe we are more careful what we try to get it to do. But
it still reverts to its old habits on occasion.
--
Davey.
On 06/05/2022 17:11, JNugent wrote:
On 06/05/2022 08:30 am, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal
software
to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and just like
with
computers, the only option is often to unplug and start it again. This
time
the channel announcements got scrambled and Alexa stopped working and
the
wired net connection could not be seen. As to what caused it, Apparently >>> plugging in an hdmi plug from the pc, which I've done many times before
with
no issues.
Brian
It happens with various PVRs (including Sky+HD) as well.
I have seen instructions for various boxes which recommend making the HDMI connections before powering on. There must be a reason for it, surely?
Jim
On 06/05/2022 20:06, Indy Jess John wrote:
I have seen instructions for various boxes which recommend making the
HDMI connections before powering on. There must be a reason for it,
surely?
Could be. I find most problems occur when connecting one item that is
earthed (like a desktop PC) to one that isn't (like many modern TVs). The sudden discharge of the class Y capacitor in the TV can cause either
device to crash.
--
Brian Gregory (in England).
Yes, the HDMI is an aberration of an interface. I have an hdmI on the pc
and on the set, if I plug them together all the sound from the pc goes to
the set and there seems no way to stop it.
So one hadd to buy an
interface for normal monitor to hdmI, leave the audio plug dangling so
one can still use the usb sound card wired to the hi fi. On top of that,
its pointless attempting to power anything from Samsungs usb ports as
they impart a nasty hash and whine on the audio if you power an optical
to analogue unit from that. You can tell it a crap socket as if you
wiggle it you can get it silent till the next time. In the end I bought a wall wart for it, and problem solved. Brian
On 06/05/2022 09:57, Davey wrote:
We have a Cello TV set,
Aren't they rather dreadful?
Bill
Yes, the HDMI is an aberration of an interface. I have an hdmI on the pc and on the set, if I plug them together all the sound from the pc goes to the
set and there seems no way to stop it. So one hadd to buy an interface for normal monitor to hdmI, leave the audio plug dangling so one can still use the usb sound card wired to the hi fi. On top of that, its pointless attempting to power anything from Samsungs usb ports as they impart a nasty hash and whine on the audio if you power an optical to analogue unit from that. You can tell it a crap socket as if you wiggle it you can get it
silent till the next time.
In the end I bought a wall wart for it, and problem solved.
Brian
On Fri, 6 May 2022 13:17:03 +0100
williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
On 06/05/2022 09:57, Davey wrote:
We have a Cello TV set,
Aren't they rather dreadful?
Bill
I certainly won't buy another one! You try and buy British, and wish
you hadn't. Of our various sets, mostly 2010 to 2015 vintage, none
of them 'Smart', thank goodness, the Samsung Freeview is the most
sensible to use. We had a Ferguson, but sent it back for a refund, it
was so bad.
--
Davey.
In article <t555ng$tam$1@dont-email.me>, Brian Gaff \(Sofa\) <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
Yes, the HDMI is an aberration of an interface. I have an hdmI on the pc
and on the set, if I plug them together all the sound from the pc goes to
the set and there seems no way to stop it.
that's not an HDMI's problem. It's your PC deciding it knows best
So one hadd to buy an
interface for normal monitor to hdmI, leave the audio plug dangling so
one can still use the usb sound card wired to the hi fi. On top of that,
its pointless attempting to power anything from Samsungs usb ports as
they impart a nasty hash and whine on the audio if you power an optical
to analogue unit from that. You can tell it a crap socket as if you
wiggle it you can get it silent till the next time. In the end I bought a
wall wart for it, and problem solved. Brian
--
from KT24 in Surrey, England
"I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle
On Saturday, 7 May 2022 at 08:05:22 UTC+1, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
Yes, the HDMI is an aberration of an interface. I have an hdmI on the pc
and
on the set, if I plug them together all the sound from the pc goes to the
set and there seems no way to stop it. So one hadd to buy an interface
for
normal monitor to hdmI, leave the audio plug dangling so one can still
use
the usb sound card wired to the hi fi. On top of that, its pointless
attempting to power anything from Samsungs usb ports as they impart a
nasty
hash and whine on the audio if you power an optical to analogue unit from
that. You can tell it a crap socket as if you wiggle it you can get it
silent till the next time.
In the end I bought a wall wart for it, and problem solved.
Brian
You have not set it up properly, on my PC in sound setting I get to choose which the default is: -
1. Either of two monitors which do have speakers by HDMI.
2. Headphones.
3. Sound bar - via audio cable.
4. AV amp in the lounge on a 10m optical cable.
and even
5. A telephone headset via Bluetooth.
Some programs let you assign differently - e.g. for Zoom I route the sound for that the the monitor where the camera is.
Do you have your TV configured to do automatic software updates? I just wondered if that could be a reason for a sudden change into "confused
mode". My Panasonic seems pretty stable, although there was one time
when an update screwed some things up.
--
Jeff
On 06/05/2022 08:30, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal software to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and just like with computers, the only option is often to unplug and start it again. This time the channel announcements got scrambled and Alexa stopped working and the wired net connection could not be seen. As to what caused it, Apparently plugging in an hdmi plug from the pc, which I've done many times before with
no issues.
Brian
On Fri, 6 May 2022 09:20:29 +0100
Jeff Layman <jmlayman@invalid.invalid> wrote:
Do you have your TV configured to do automatic software updates? I just
wondered if that could be a reason for a sudden change into "confused
mode". My Panasonic seems pretty stable, although there was one time
when an update screwed some things up.
--
Jeff
On 06/05/2022 08:30, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
There does seem to be with modern TVs a tendency for the internal software >>> to go into what one might call confused mode at times, and just like with >>> computers, the only option is often to unplug and start it again. This time >>> the channel announcements got scrambled and Alexa stopped working and the >>> wired net connection could not be seen. As to what caused it, Apparently >>> plugging in an hdmi plug from the pc, which I've done many times before with
no issues.
Brian
I have a wide-screen Samsung TV. It is five or six years old. It runs
on Linux of course. I have never had a problem with it as such.
BUT, it hasn't supported ITV Hub for several years and although
recordings can be played from flash drives, it cannot record to them.
(Other models do). A software upgrade should solve both problems but
there hasn't been one. :(
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