For some reason the BBC South and South-East local news this weekend are sharing the same programme. I assume the presenters, including those for
the weather, are from the South-East as I don't recognise them or the
set (Tunbridge Wells?).
For some reason the BBC South and South-East local news this weekend are sharing the same programme. I assume the presenters, including those for
the weather, are from the South-East as I don't recognise them or the
set (Tunbridge Wells?).
Is this limited to S/SE or are other local news programmes in the
country being combined? If not, has something happened to the BBC South studios?
For some reason the BBC South and South-East local news this weekend
are sharing the same programme. I assume the presenters, including
those for the weather, are from the South-East as I don't recognise
them or the set (Tunbridge Wells?).
On 06/03/2022 19:22, Jeff Layman wrote:
For some reason the BBC South and South-East local news this weekendIt's happened a few times. It might be Covid related staff shortages, or
are sharing the same programme. I assume the presenters, including
those for the weather, are from the South-East as I don't recognise
them or the set (Tunbridge Wells?).
more likely the engineering work that's been happening at Southampton
recent months to convert to HD.
Whatever, last night's bulletin was even more useless than the Sunday
night one normally is.
Whatever, last night's bulletin was even more useless than the Sunday
night one normally is.
On 07/03/2022 08:43, Mark Carver wrote:
Whatever, last night's bulletin was even more useless than the Sunday
night one normally is.
Yep. "Local news" based 100+ miles away is not of much use!
On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 08:43:36 +0000, Mark CarverThe BBC have a hang up about pre-recording news bulletins, they simply
<mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote:
On 06/03/2022 19:22, Jeff Layman wrote:Could they not pre-record one programme in advance then do the second programme
For some reason the BBC South and South-East local news this weekendIt's happened a few times. It might be Covid related staff shortages, or
are sharing the same programme. I assume the presenters, including
those for the weather, are from the South-East as I don't recognise
them or the set (Tunbridge Wells?).
more likely the engineering work that's been happening at Southampton
recent months to convert to HD.
Whatever, last night's bulletin was even more useless than the Sunday
night one normally is.
On 06/03/2022 19:22, Jeff Layman wrote:
For some reason the BBC South and South-East local news this weekendIt's happened a few times. It might be Covid related staff shortages, or
are sharing the same programme. I assume the presenters, including
those for the weather, are from the South-East as I don't recognise
them or the set (Tunbridge Wells?).
more likely the engineering work that's been happening at Southampton
recent months to convert to HD.
Whatever, last night's bulletin was even more useless than the Sunday
night one normally is.
On 07/03/2022 09:53, Scott wrote:
Could they not pre-record one programme in advance then do the secondThe BBC have a hang up about pre-recording news bulletins, they simply
programme
don't do it. (Unlike ITV now)
"Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:j8m5ndFitm9U1@mid.individual.net...
On 07/03/2022 09:53, Scott wrote:
Could they not pre-record one programme in advance then do the secondThe BBC have a hang up about pre-recording news bulletins, they
programme
simply don't do it. (Unlike ITV now)
The logistics of ITV's Calendar programme are intriguing.
Comparing the West Yorkshire version (Leeds-centred, probably from
Emley Moor, but I get it on Freesat) and East Yorkshire (Hull-centred,
from Belmont), they have the same presenters and sometimes even the
same segments (synchronised) though with different Chromakey
backgrounds. Sometimes one report differs between the two versions,
and then when that finishes they come back into sync again.
I presume all of it is pre-recorded, apart from if there is a live
satellite link to an on-the-spot reporter at a major story, though I
suppose there's no reason for that to be live, just recorded as-live, complete with the several-second-delay cueing problems between studio
and reporter, because it is too close to transmission for the report
to be recorded and edited locally and then copied to the studio. You'd
think if "live" satellite reports are actually recorded in advance,
they'd at least edit out the couple of seconds when the studio hands
over to the reporter and he is waiting to get the cue to start
speaking and for his contribution to get back to the studio.
I wonder how far in advance Calendar, and other ITV regional news
programmes, are recorded? Presumably they want to record as close to transmission to allow for late-breaking stories or updates to stories,
but far enough in advance that the same presenters can record all the segments for all the regions that they cover so it *looks* as if the
whole programme is going out seamless and live.
NY<me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
I presume all of it is pre-recorded, apart from if there is a live satellite >> link to an on-the-spot reporter at a major story, though I suppose there's
It could hardly be recorded after transmitting it! Please drop the
pre- :-)
I presume all of it is pre-recorded, apart from if there is a live satellite link to an on-the-spot reporter at a major story, though I suppose there's
Look North never seems to have much relevance to me and my circle. It's
as if it's aimed at a different sort of person entirely, with different interests and beliefs.
There again, Calendar's much the same.
NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
I presume all of it is pre-recorded, apart from if there is a live satellite >> link to an on-the-spot reporter at a major story, though I suppose there's
It could hardly be recorded after transmitting it! Please drop the
pre- :-)
On 07/03/2022 12:24, williamwright wrote:
Look North never seems to have much relevance to me and my circle. It's
as if it's aimed at a different sort of person entirely, with different interests and beliefs.
There again, Calendar's much the same.
It was many years after Torosay started up before STV realised they did
not just cover their local area (I wrote/EMailed them)
On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 14:36:08 +0000, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
It could hardly be recorded after transmitting it! Please drop the
I presume all of it is pre-recorded, apart from if there is a live >>>satellite
link to an on-the-spot reporter at a major story, though I suppose there's >>
pre- :-)
I thought that once until I thought it through. I agree with Indy.
'Recorded' could be recorded off-air for legal and archive purposes (I >believe radio stations have an Ofcom obligation to do this - I expect
TV is the same). 'Pre-recorded' is completely different, meaning that
the whole programme is made in advance - maybe far in advance.
Yep. "Local news" based 100+ miles away is not of much use!
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 07/03/2022 09:17, Jeff Layman wrote:
Yep. "Local news" based 100+ miles away is not of much use!
Quite common, we are over a hundred miles from Glasgow and Shetland is
much further away.
I've always been surprised at how poorly served the non central belt areas
of Scotland are. I think last time I looked at how much programming BBC
radio Shetland had it was an hour or two per day, the rest being from Glasgow.
On 07/03/2022 09:17, Jeff Layman wrote:
Yep. "Local news" based 100+ miles away is not of much use!
Quite common, we are over a hundred miles from Glasgow and Shetland is
much further away.
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
Jeff Layman wrote:
Yep. "Local news" based 100+ miles away is not of much use!
Quite common, we are over a hundred miles from Glasgow and Shetland is
much further away.
I’ve always been surprised at how poorly served the non central belt areas of Scotland are. I think last time I looked at how much programming BBC
radio Shetland had it was an hour or two per day, the rest being from Glasgow.
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> writes
Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
I presume all of it is pre-recorded, apart from if there is a live
satellite link to an on-the-spot reporter at a major story, though I
suppose there's
It could hardly be recorded after transmitting it! Please drop the
pre- :-)
I thought that once until I thought it through. I agree with Indy.
'Recorded' could be recorded off-air for legal and archive purposes (I
believe radio stations have an Ofcom obligation to do this - I expect
TV is the same). 'Pre-recorded' is completely different, meaning that
the whole programme is made in advance - maybe far in advance.
What really annoys me is when TV shows a concert and there's "Live" in
the title, when it's actually a recording of the event.
On 07/03/2022 06:09 pm, John Hall wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> writes
Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
I presume all of it is pre-recorded, apart from if there is a live
satellite link to an on-the-spot reporter at a major story, though I >>>>> suppose there's
It could hardly be recorded after transmitting it! Please drop the
pre- :-)
I thought that once until I thought it through. I agree with Indy.
'Recorded' could be recorded off-air for legal and archive purposes (I
believe radio stations have an Ofcom obligation to do this - I expect
TV is the same). 'Pre-recorded' is completely different, meaning that
the whole programme is made in advance - maybe far in advance.
What really annoys me is when TV shows a concert and there's "Live" in
the title, when it's actually a recording of the event.
Back in the late sixties, David Frost had a Sunday night chat show type >programme on LWT (whether pre-recorded, I can't say).
But one Sunday, he announced that The Beatles would perform live. And in
a sense, they did - live to cameras in the (or *a*) studio. But it was a >pre-recorded insert, recorded some time earlier than the rest of the >programme (which itself may have been a recording).
ISTR it was "Hey Jude".
On 07/03/2022 06:32 pm, Tweed wrote:
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
Jeff Layman wrote:
Yep. "Local news" based 100+ miles away is not of much use!
Quite common, we are over a hundred miles from Glasgow and Shetland is
much further away.
It happens in England too.
All Meridian news now comes from Southampton, even for south Essex.
I‘ve always been surprised at how poorly served the non central belt
areas of Scotland are. I think last time I looked at how much
programming BBC radio Shetland had it was an hour or two per day, the
rest being from Glasgow.
Isn't BBC Alba aimed mainly at the fringe areas?
On 07/03/2022 06:32 pm, Tweed wrote:
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
Jeff Layman wrote:
Yep. "Local news" based 100+ miles away is not of much use!
Quite common, we are over a hundred miles from Glasgow and Shetland is
much further away.
It happens in England too.
All Meridian news now comes from Southampton, even for south Essex.
Maybe in these days live meant not mimed.
I’ve always been surprised at how poorly served the non central belt areas of Scotland are. I think last time I looked at how much programming BBC
radio Shetland had it was an hour or two per day, the rest being from Glasgow.
JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
Tweed wrote:
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
Jeff Layman wrote:
Yep. "Local news" based 100+ miles away is not of much use!
Quite common, we are over a hundred miles from Glasgow and Shetland is >>>> much further away.
It happens in England too.
All Meridian news now comes from Southampton, even for south Essex.
I‘ve always been surprised at how poorly served the non central belt
areas of Scotland are. I think last time I looked at how much
programming BBC radio Shetland had it was an hour or two per day, the
rest being from Glasgow.
Isn't BBC Alba aimed mainly at the fringe areas?
They don't speak Gaelic in Shetland = but Edinburgh has both Primary & Secondary Gselic schools.
On 07/03/2022 20:16, JNugent wrote:
On 07/03/2022 06:32 pm, Tweed wrote:
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
Jeff Layman wrote:
Yep. "Local news" based 100+ miles away is not of much use!
Quite common, we are over a hundred miles from Glasgow and Shetland is >>>> much further away.
It happens in England too.
All Meridian news now comes from Southampton, even for south Essex.
From <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Maidstone_Studios#Independent_ownership>:
"The Meridian newsgathering operation returned to Maidstone Studios in
2004, though the studio for the programme moved to Meridian's new base
at Whiteley in Hampshire. "
JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> wrote:
On 07/03/2022 06:09 pm, John Hall wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> writes
Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
I presume all of it is pre-recorded, apart from if there is a live >>>>>> satellite link to an on-the-spot reporter at a major story, though I >>>>>> suppose there's
It could hardly be recorded after transmitting it! Please drop the >>>>> pre- :-)
I thought that once until I thought it through. I agree with Indy.
'Recorded' could be recorded off-air for legal and archive purposes (I >>>> believe radio stations have an Ofcom obligation to do this - I expect
TV is the same). 'Pre-recorded' is completely different, meaning that >>>> the whole programme is made in advance - maybe far in advance.
What really annoys me is when TV shows a concert and there's "Live" in
the title, when it's actually a recording of the event.
Back in the late sixties, David Frost had a Sunday night chat show type
programme on LWT (whether pre-recorded, I can't say).
But one Sunday, he announced that The Beatles would perform live. And in
a sense, they did - live to cameras in the (or *a*) studio. But it was a
pre-recorded insert, recorded some time earlier than the rest of the
programme (which itself may have been a recording).
ISTR it was "Hey Jude".
Maybe in these days live meant not mimed.
On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 00:05:38 +0000, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
They don't speak Gaelic in Shetland = but Edinburgh has both Primary &
Secondary Gselic schools.
You surprise me.
I had heard that more people speak Gaelic in Glasgow and Edinburgh
than in the highlands and islands, but wondered how many are true
native speakers who have it as their first language, and how many are historical enthusiasts learning it academically to preserve it.
Rod.
They don't speak Gaelic in Shetland = but Edinburgh has both Primary &
Secondary Gselic schools.
You surprise me.
What really annoys me is when TV shows a concert and there's "Live" in
the title, when it's actually a recording of the event.
If you look at the maps Scots Gaelic is spoken mainly in the north west. I’m surprised there isn’t a regional news operation that covers at least the north east, with Orkney and Shetland, perhaps centred on Aberdeen. When
I was in Lerwick Glasgow seemed a very long way away, and no more relevant than London.
Agreed, and it seems the legality of watching things without a licence depends partly on whether or not they're described as "live", even
though the meaning of the word appears to have changed over the years.
The difference between "legal" and "not legal" can sometimes depend
simply on whose machinery is playing back a recording. I'm sure this
does nothing to reduce any confusion about a matter that some already
find confusing.
I had heard that more people speak Gaelic in Glasgow and Edinburgh
than in the highlands and islands, but wondered how many are true
native speakers who have it as their first language, and how many are historical enthusiasts learning it academically to preserve it.
On 06/03/2022 19:22, Jeff Layman wrote:
For some reason the BBC South and South-East local news this weekendIt's happened a few times. It might be Covid related staff shortages,
are sharing the same programme. I assume the presenters, including
those for the weather, are from the South-East as I don't recognise
them or the set (Tunbridge Wells?).
or more likely the engineering work that's been happening at
Southampton recent months to convert to HD.
On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 18:09:56 +0000, John Hall <john_nospam@jhall.co.uk>
wrote:
What really annoys me is when TV shows a concert and there's "Live" in
the title, when it's actually a recording of the event.
Agreed, and it seems the legality of watching things without a licence >depends partly on whether or not they're described as "live", even
though the meaning of the word appears to have changed over the years.
The difference between "legal" and "not legal" can sometimes depend
simply on whose machinery is playing back a recording. I'm sure this
does nothing to reduce any confusion about a matter that some already
find confusing.
On 07/03/2022 20:42, Scott wrote:
Maybe in these days live meant not mimed.
I generally interpret "live" as meaning unedited.
Roderick Stewart wrote:
John Hall wrote:
What really annoys me is when TV shows a concert and there's "Live" in
the title, when it's actually a recording of the event.
Agreed, and it seems the legality of watching things without a licence
depends partly on whether or not they're described as "live"
I thought this had changed when a licence became necessary to watch
iPlayer?
On 07/03/2022 20:42, Scott wrote:
Maybe in these days live meant not mimed.
I generally interpret "live" as meaning unedited.
Jim
In message <eehc2hljv5jvbsqd61jl2t348q4760k27t@4ax.com>, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> writes
On Mon, 7 Mar 2022 14:36:08 +0000, Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
I presume all of it is pre-recorded, apart from if there is a live
satellite
link to an on-the-spot reporter at a major story, though I suppose
there's
It could hardly be recorded after transmitting it! Please drop the
pre- :-)
I thought that once until I thought it through. I agree with Indy.
'Recorded' could be recorded off-air for legal and archive purposes (I
believe radio stations have an Ofcom obligation to do this - I expect
TV is the same). 'Pre-recorded' is completely different, meaning that
the whole programme is made in advance - maybe far in advance.
What really annoys me is when TV shows a concert and there's "Live" in
the title, when it's actually a recording of the event.
On 08/03/2022 07:46, Roderick Stewart wrote:
Agreed, and it seems the legality of watching things without a licence
depends partly on whether or not they're described as "live", even
though the meaning of the word appears to have changed over the years.
The difference between "legal" and "not legal" can sometimes depend
simply on whose machinery is playing back a recording. I'm sure this
does nothing to reduce any confusion about a matter that some already
find confusing.
I thought the legal definition depend on whether the person is watching
a live broadcast, it does not matter if the programme content is recorded.
Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 00:05:38 +0000, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
They don't speak Gaelic in Shetland = but Edinburgh has both Primary
& Secondary Gselic schools.
You surprise me.
I had heard that more people speak Gaelic in Glasgow and Edinburgh than
in the highlands and islands, but wondered how many are true native speakers who have it as their first language, and how many are
historical enthusiasts learning it academically to preserve it.
Rod.
If you look at the maps Scots Gaelic is spoken mainly in the north west.
I‘m surprised there isn‘t a regional news operation that covers at least
the north east, with Orkney and Shetland, perhaps centred on Aberdeen.
When I was in Lerwick Glasgow seemed a very long way away, and no more relevant than London.
In message <t060hf$7hn$1@dont-email.me>, Indy Jess John
I generally interpret "live" as meaning unedited.
That's how media companies generally seem to use it these days, but I
don't think that coincides with what most of the public (myself
included) think the word means.
The meaning of the word "live" seems to have drifted somewhat over the
years from "as it's happening" to "as the playback of a recording is happening". I don't see what real practical difference it makes
whether it's a broadcaster's recording or a streaming service's
recording or your own local recording that's being played back, but apparently they can be legally different.
In article <t07240$jgc$1@dont-email.me>, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 00:05:38 +0000, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
They don't speak Gaelic in Shetland = but Edinburgh has both Primary >>>>> & Secondary Gselic schools.
You surprise me.
I had heard that more people speak Gaelic in Glasgow and Edinburgh than
in the highlands and islands, but wondered how many are true native
speakers who have it as their first language, and how many are
historical enthusiasts learning it academically to preserve it.
Rod.
If you look at the maps Scots Gaelic is spoken mainly in the north west.
I‘m surprised there isn‘t a regional news operation that covers at least >> the north east, with Orkney and Shetland, perhaps centred on Aberdeen.
When I was in Lerwick Glasgow seemed a very long way away, and no more
relevant than London.
Radio nan Gaedheil from Inverness does this and hs been doing so for a
great many years - since 1985 in fact
Scott wrote:
Roderick Stewart wrote:
John Hall wrote:
What really annoys me is when TV shows a concert and there's "Live" in >>>> the title, when it's actually a recording of the event.
Agreed, and it seems the legality of watching things without a licence
depends partly on whether or not they're described as "live"
I thought this had changed when a licence became necessary to watch
iPlayer?
The Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004 doesn't use the word "live" but the phrase "at the same time (or virtually the same time)"
<https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2004/692/regulation/9/made>
My earliest understanding is that if what you were watching on the
screen was taking place at the same time that you were watching it
(not counting the couple of milliseconds or so for the signal to reach
you from the broadcasters) then it was live.
charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
In article <t07240$jgc$1@dont-email.me>, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 00:05:38 +0000, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
They don't speak Gaelic in Shetland = but Edinburgh has both
Primary & Secondary Gselic schools.
You surprise me.
I had heard that more people speak Gaelic in Glasgow and Edinburgh
than in the highlands and islands, but wondered how many are true
native speakers who have it as their first language, and how many are
historical enthusiasts learning it academically to preserve it.
Rod.
If you look at the maps Scots Gaelic is spoken mainly in the north
west. I‘m surprised there isn‘t a regional news operation that covers
at least the north east, with Orkney and Shetland, perhaps centred on
Aberdeen. When I was in Lerwick Glasgow seemed a very long way away,
and no more relevant than London.
Radio nan Gaedheil from Inverness does this and hs been doing so for a great many years - since 1985 in fact
In English? When I watched the evening TV news in Lerwick the slot at
1830 came from Glasgow. Nothing regional about it.
In English? When I watched the evening TV news in Lerwick the slot at 1830 came from Glasgow. Nothing regional about it.
Andy Burns wrote:
The Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004 doesn't use the >> word "live" but the phrase "at the same time (or virtually the same time)" >>
<https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2004/692/regulation/9/made>
So do you still not need a licence if you start watching a programme on iPlayer
after it has finished being broadcast?
I thought that was the loophole which had been closed, so you now need a licence to watch on a catchup site any programme that is normally broadcast by terrestrial/satellite - so for iPlayer, ITV.com. five.tv etc.Only iPlayer AFAIK
In article <t07iak$gbi$1@dont-email.me>, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
charles <charles@candehope.me.uk> wrote:
In article <t07240$jgc$1@dont-email.me>, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com>
wrote:
Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 00:05:38 +0000, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm> >>>>> wrote:
They don't speak Gaelic in Shetland = but Edinburgh has both
Primary & Secondary Gselic schools.
You surprise me.
I had heard that more people speak Gaelic in Glasgow and Edinburgh
than in the highlands and islands, but wondered how many are true
native speakers who have it as their first language, and how many are >>>>> historical enthusiasts learning it academically to preserve it.
Rod.
If you look at the maps Scots Gaelic is spoken mainly in the north
west. I‘m surprised there isn‘t a regional news operation that covers >>>> at least the north east, with Orkney and Shetland, perhaps centred on
Aberdeen. When I was in Lerwick Glasgow seemed a very long way away,
and no more relevant than London.
Radio nan Gaedheil from Inverness does this and hs been doing so for a
great many years - since 1985 in fact
In English? When I watched the evening TV news in Lerwick the slot at
1830 came from Glasgow. Nothing regional about it.
You don't normally 'watch' radio/ If you want Gaelic tv then BBC Alba would be the sensible choice. .
You need a licence for all online content provided by the BBC
In message<t060hf$7hn$1@dont-email.me>, Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> writes
On 07/03/2022 20:42, Scott wrote:
Maybe in these days live meant not mimed.
I generally interpret "live" as meaning unedited.
Jim
That's how media companies generally seem to use it these days, but I
don't think that coincides with what most of the public (myself
included) think the word means.
The Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004 doesn't use the word
"live" but the phrase "at the same time (or virtually the same time)"
<https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2004/692/regulation/9/made>
Andy Burns wrote:
The Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004 doesn't use the word
"live" but the phrase "at the same time (or virtually the same time)"
<https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2004/692/regulation/9/made>
That Act must have been replaced or updated
because it says:
6.—(1) No fee shall be payable for a TV licence of a type referred to in the
first or second entry in column 1 of the table in Schedule 1 where—
(a) the licence is issued to a person aged 75 years or more or to a person who
will attain thatage in the calendar month in which the licence is issued;
I found a 2016 amendment which still includes free licences for 75 or over but
restricts the qualification to "the licence is issued to a person who has attained the age of 75 before 1st September 2016" which means those born in the
summer of 1941 or earlier.
Indy Jess John wrote:
Andy Burns wrote:
The Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004 doesn't use the word
"live" but the phrase "at the same time (or virtually the same time)"
<https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2004/692/regulation/9/made>
That Act must have been replaced or updated
I didn't particularly mean to link to the "as made" version, here's the up to date one, but that part essentially says the same thing
<https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2004/692/regulation/9>
because it says:
6.—(1) No fee shall be payable for a TV licence of a type referred to in the
first or second entry in column 1 of the table in Schedule 1 where—
(a) the licence is issued to a person aged 75 years or more or to a person who
will attain that age in the calendar month in which the licence is issued; >>
I found a 2016 amendment which still includes free licences for 75 or over but
restricts the qualification to "the licence is issued to a person who has
attained the age of 75 before 1st September 2016" which means those born in the
summer of 1941 or earlier.
Yes, there are similar amendments each year from 2017, 18 and 19. Can't see the
change where free licences were withdrawn though
On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 00:05:38 +0000, JNugent <jennings&co@fastmail.fm>
wrote:
They don't speak Gaelic in Shetland = but Edinburgh has both Primary
& Secondary Gselic schools.
You surprise me.
I had heard that more people speak Gaelic in Glasgow and Edinburgh than
in the highlands and islands, but wondered how many are true native
speakers who have it as their first language, and how many are
historical enthusiasts learning it academically to preserve it.
If you look at the maps Scots Gaelic is spoken mainly in the north west.
I'm surprised there isn't a regional news operation that covers at least
the north east, with Orkney and Shetland, perhaps centred on Aberdeen.
When I was in Lerwick Glasgow seemed a very long way away, and no more relevant than London.
In article <t07240$jgc$1@dont-email.me>, Tweed <usenet.tweed@gmail.com> wrote:
If you look at the maps Scots Gaelic is spoken mainly in the north west.
I'm surprised there isn't a regional news operation that covers at least
the north east, with Orkney and Shetland, perhaps centred on Aberdeen.
When I was in Lerwick Glasgow seemed a very long way away, and no more
relevant than London.
Can't recall for sound radio, but there is BBC Alba.
Jim
My recollection is that overall the area-smoothed number of Gaelic speakers per sq km is much the same across Scotland. The fraction of the local population is therefore highest where the population density is lowest.
i.e. in the H and I. Not sure how cities came into that, though, as I can't recall the smoothing area.
Roderick Stewart wrote:
The meaning of the word "live" seems to have drifted somewhat over the
years from "as it's happening" to "as the playback of a recording is
happening". I don't see what real practical difference it makes
whether it's a broadcaster's recording or a streaming service's
recording or your own local recording that's being played back, but
apparently they can be legally different.
You could be watching an old programme from youtube when, by coincidence, the >same programme is being repeated on broadcast TV ... then you'd need a licence.
BBC Alba isn’t aimed at English speaking audiences though. I’ve no objection to it as a channel, but it doesn’t really serve the north east of Scotland, which doesn’t seem to embrace Gaelic. It seems odd that the western isles can have a channel that embraces their culture but Caithness, Orkney, Shetland etc get very little.
On 08/03/2022 11:11, Roderick Stewart wrote:
My earliest understanding is that if what you were watching on the
screen was taking place at the same time that you were watching it
(not counting the couple of milliseconds or so for the signal to reach
you from the broadcasters) then it was live.
I think it is more likely that it means you are watching at the same
time that is transmitted, it could be a playout of something recorded
many years ago but "live" as far as the licence T&C.
So do you still not need a licence if you start watching a programme on >iPlayer after it has finished being broadcast?
On 08/03/2022 10:16, Andy Burns wrote:
The Communications (Television Licensing) Regulations 2004 doesn't use the word
"live" but the phrase "at the same time (or virtually the same time)"
<https://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/2004/692/regulation/9/made>
That Act must have been replaced or updated because it says:
6.—(1) No fee shall be payable for a TV licence of a type referred to in
the first or second entry in column 1 of the table in Schedule 1 where—
(a) the licence is issued to a person aged 75 years or more or to a
person who will attain thatage in the calendar month in which the
licence is issued;
I found a 2016 amendment which still includes free licences for 75 or
over but restricts the qualification to "the licence is issued to a
person who has attained the age of 75 before 1st September 2016" which
means those born in the summer of 1941 or earlier.
Jim
I think the wording means if you're 75 years old you can't just not
have a licence; you still have to have a licence but you don't pay for
it. You'd think the paper pushers would be busy enough already.
Roderick Stewart wrote:
I think the wording means if you're 75 years old you can't just not
have a licence; you still have to have a licence but you don't pay for
it. You'd think the paper pushers would be busy enough already.
Now you have to be over 75 *and* on some sort of means tested benefit
(or maybe only pension credit, IDK) to get a free licence, Dad had gone
back to paying again last year.
On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 12:47:36 -0000, "NY" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
So do you still not need a licence if you start watching a programme on
iPlayer after it has finished being broadcast?
iPlayer is the exception. It's the only streaming service for which you
*do* need a licence even to watch catchup programmes.
You need a licence to watch *anything* on iPlayer.
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