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    From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 7 14:22:11 2022
    DVB-S2 11386 H 29500 8/9 QPSK 28.2°E 1920x1080 H.264
    Testing, no channel name, no EPG.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Brian Gregory on Mon Feb 7 14:39:20 2022
    Brian Gregory wrote:

    DVB-S2 11386 H 29500 8/9 QPSK 28.2°E 1920x1080 H.264
    Testing, no channel name, no EPG.

    service ID 53710

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Mon Feb 7 21:46:53 2022
    "Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in message news:j6cp8qFgbliU1@mid.individual.net...
    Brian Gregory wrote:

    DVB-S2 11386 H 29500 8/9 QPSK 28.2°E 1920x1080 H.264
    Testing, no channel name, no EPG.

    service ID 53710

    Ah, I was wonder which of the nameless SID channels it was. I'll have a look
    in 15 mins when my tuner is not being used for a recording.

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 7 22:00:04 2022
    On 07/02/2022 21:46, NY wrote:
    "Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in message news:j6cp8qFgbliU1@mid.individual.net...
    Brian Gregory wrote:

    DVB-S2 11386 H 29500 8/9 QPSK 28.2°E 1920x1080 H.264
    Testing, no channel name, no EPG.

    service ID 53710

    Ah, I was wonder which of the nameless SID channels it was. I'll have a
    look in 15 mins when my tuner is not being used for a recording.

    The programming doesn't look very interesting to me.
    Quite a lot of rather sensational stuff compared to say CNN or CNBC.

    Yes sorry, I should have given the SID too.

    Here's a short recording: https://youtu.be/yMB07X9Hh5w

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to me@privacy.invalid on Mon Feb 7 22:16:43 2022
    "NY" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote in message
    news:sts421$ioq$1@dont-email.me...
    "Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in message news:j6cp8qFgbliU1@mid.individual.net...
    Brian Gregory wrote:

    DVB-S2 11386 H 29500 8/9 QPSK 28.2°E 1920x1080 H.264
    Testing, no channel name, no EPG.

    service ID 53710

    Ah, I was wonder which of the nameless SID channels it was. I'll have a
    look in 15 mins when my tuner is not being used for a recording.

    By heck, 30-to-25 fps conversion has improved a lot since the days of
    analogue TV when you used to see US TV reports shown on UK news bulletins.

    At one stage I got a lot of glitches, and my receiver didn't flagging any errors so I wonder whether it was errors in reception of the signal from the
    US and rebroadcasting it to Astra 28.2.

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 7 22:35:30 2022
    On 07/02/2022 22:16, NY wrote:
    By heck, 30-to-25 fps conversion has improved a lot since the days of analogue TV when you used to see US TV reports shown on UK news bulletins.

    Yes motion looks nice and smooth.


    At one stage I got a lot of glitches, and my receiver didn't flagging
    any errors so I wonder whether it was errors in reception of the signal
    from the US and rebroadcasting it to Astra 28.2.

    Could be, or maybe bitrate mismatch causing corrupted or dropped data.

    I sometimes get something like that on one of the other HD foreign
    channels, not sure which one. It's when there is a sudden big scene
    change like a cut from one view to another, it causes pixelation like an I-frame was truncated or dropped.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Mon Feb 7 22:40:56 2022
    NY wrote:

    By heck, 30-to-25 fps conversion has improved a lot since the days of analogue
    TV when you used to see US TV reports shown on UK news bulletins.

    or from /that/ year with the American Grand Prix with the legovision standards conversion ...

    At one stage I got a lot of glitches, and my receiver didn't flagging any errors
    so I wonder whether it was errors in reception of the signal from the US and rebroadcasting it to Astra 28.2.

    I left it running for a few hours and didn't notice any issues, I was listening more than watching though.

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Tue Feb 8 00:07:17 2022
    On 07/02/2022 22:40, Andy Burns wrote:
    NY wrote:

    By heck, 30-to-25 fps conversion has improved a lot since the days of
    analogue TV when you used to see US TV reports shown on UK news
    bulletins.

    or from /that/ year with the American Grand Prix with the legovision standards conversion ...

    At one stage I got a lot of glitches, and my receiver didn't flagging
    any errors so I wonder whether it was errors in reception of the
    signal from the US and rebroadcasting it to Astra 28.2.

    I left it running for a few hours and didn't notice any issues, I was listening more than watching though.

    I've just had it drop out altogether several times: playing the channel
    in VLC on my PC, I can see blocks of data still being reported on Tools
    | Codec | Statistics with no lost, dropped or discarded frames, but
    black screen and no sound. Then normal service is resumed - and then
    lost again.

    That's why they have a testing phase ;-)

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Brian Gregory on Tue Feb 8 00:19:25 2022
    On 07/02/2022 22:00, Brian Gregory wrote:
    On 07/02/2022 21:46, NY wrote:
    "Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in message
    news:j6cp8qFgbliU1@mid.individual.net...
    Brian Gregory wrote:

    DVB-S2 11386 H 29500 8/9 QPSK 28.2°E 1920x1080 H.264
    Testing, no channel name, no EPG.

    service ID 53710

    Ah, I was wonder which of the nameless SID channels it was. I'll have
    a look in 15 mins when my tuner is not being used for a recording.

    The programming doesn't look very interesting to me.
    Quite a lot of rather sensational stuff compared to say CNN or CNBC.

    Yes sorry, I should have given the SID too.

    Here's a short recording: https://youtu.be/yMB07X9Hh5w

    They are certainly getting their moneysworth out of the caption
    generator and screen-animation software - like a some who's just
    discovered how many fonts they've found in MS Word and who is determined
    to use as many of them as possible in the same document.

    i wonder if the channel's remit is somewhat akin to GB News (with or
    without political bias) in that they are more about discussion and
    opinions than hard news.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 8 07:09:46 2022
    NY wrote:

    I've just had it drop out altogether several times: playing the channel in VLC
    on my PC, I can see blocks of data still being reported on Tools | Codec | Statistics with no lost, dropped or discarded frames, but black screen and no sound. Then normal service is resumed - and then lost again.

    That's why they have a testing phase ;-)

    I was also streaming it from TVH over wifi to VLC, I did watch some of it, but mostly ust left it on in the background, I won't get much chance to watch today ..

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Tue Feb 8 08:04:25 2022
    Andy Burns wrote:

    Brian Gregory wrote:

    The programming doesn't look very interesting to me.

    It seems like "NBC news now" is different from "NBC news"

    and I realise I'd read Brian's original subject as
    "NBC News" now testing on ...
    rather than
    "NBC News Now" testing on ...

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Brian Gregory on Tue Feb 8 07:54:10 2022
    Brian Gregory wrote:


    The programming doesn't look very interesting to me.

    It seems like "NBC news now" is different from "NBC news"

    I presume we're getting trailers in the slots that other viewers are getting adverts?

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  • From Brian Gaff (Sofa)@21:1/5 to Brian Gregory on Tue Feb 8 08:26:18 2022
    Do we need yet more biased news. I think news has had its day, many many
    people now avoid news, they really want more local news, not just more doom
    and gloom and biased views on the way the world is run.
    Brian


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    "Brian Gregory" <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote in message news:j6co8jFg387U2@mid.individual.net...
    DVB-S2 11386 H 29500 8/9 QPSK 28.2°E 1920x1080 H.264
    Testing, no channel name, no EPG.

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  • From Wilf@21:1/5 to All on Tue Feb 8 14:45:04 2022
    On 08/02/2022 at 08:26, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
    Do we need yet more biased news. I think news has had its day, many many people now avoid news, they really want more local news, not just more doom and gloom and biased views on the way the world is run.
    Brian



    I think what they want is 'news' which confirms their own bias.
    Facebook is great for that if you just stick to the groups you agree
    with. Bit of a sadly narrow world, though.

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    Wilf

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Tue Feb 8 15:29:45 2022
    On 08/02/2022 08:04, Andy Burns wrote:
    Andy Burns wrote:

    Brian Gregory wrote:

    The programming doesn't look very interesting to me.

    It seems like "NBC news now" is different from "NBC news"

    and I realise I'd read Brian's original subject as
        "NBC News" now testing on ...
    rather than
        "NBC News Now" testing on ...

    Oops. I never thought of that.

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to Brian Gregory on Tue Feb 8 15:31:26 2022
    On 07/02/2022 22:00, Brian Gregory wrote:
    The programming doesn't look very interesting to me.
    Quite a lot of rather sensational stuff compared to say CNN or CNBC.

    I was seeing their weekend programming.
    Seems a bit better now.

    At the weekend there seemed to be a lot of true crime type stuff.

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to Brian Gregory on Wed Feb 9 12:39:43 2022
    On 07/02/2022 14:22, Brian Gregory wrote:
    DVB-S2 11386 H 29500 8/9 QPSK 28.2°E 1920x1080 H.264
    Testing, no channel name, no EPG.


    There seems to be Sky (OpenTV) EPG now.

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to Brian Gregory on Tue Mar 1 15:51:32 2022
    On 01/03/2022 15:15, Brian Gregory wrote:
    On 07/02/2022 14:22, Brian Gregory wrote:
    DVB-S2 11386 H 29500 8/9 QPSK 28.2°E 1920x1080 H.264
    Testing, no channel name, no EPG.

    Drat. Looks like it's being encrypted now.
    So it's going to be Sky subscribers only :(


    It does look like it's still marked as unencrypted though, so maybe...
    But there are cases where those marks remain incorrect for ages and ages.

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to Brian Gregory on Tue Mar 1 15:15:21 2022
    On 07/02/2022 14:22, Brian Gregory wrote:
    DVB-S2 11386 H 29500 8/9 QPSK 28.2°E 1920x1080 H.264
    Testing, no channel name, no EPG.

    Drat. Looks like it's being encrypted now.
    So it's going to be Sky subscribers only :(

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    Brian Gregory (in England).

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Brian Gregory on Tue Mar 1 16:22:12 2022
    Brian Gregory wrote:

    On 07/02/2022 14:22, Brian Gregory wrote:
    DVB-S2 11386 H 29500 8/9 QPSK 28.2°E 1920x1080 H.264
    Testing, no channel name, no EPG.

    Drat. Looks like it's being encrypted now.
    So it's going to be Sky subscribers only :(

    I last looked at it briefly yesterday, it was still FTA then, but not very interesting, today, yes it's locked-down

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