On some of the free online channels on my samsung TV despite a fast
internet connection, and it being up close to the router, on some channels
you get this drop out and it might happen several times while you watch a program.
Intriguingly, in the main it does not affect the program at all, it tends
to be just as the ad breaks start or during them, as if the ads were coming from a different server with a poor bandwidth or different routing. Has
anyone else encountered this. Similarly, on the Amazon Echo Dot which is connected to the music account, one often now gets a small dropout as well. That never used to happen. Monitoring of the broadband sees an almost
perfect 200 meg feed and a 20meg feed back with little latency, but if you watch specific pings you do tend to get issues. Are we seeing overload of
the internet at certain times, places and routings? So it does not matter
what reliability your broadband has if the system falls apart
internationally then. Brian

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On 29/12/2021 09:28, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

So it does not matter
what reliability your broadband has if the system falls apart
internationally then.

Your broadband speed is only the first leg of an internet connection. It
is what you get for the connection to your ISP. Anything that isn't
available on your ISP's own server has to contend with all other uses of
the external links.

With much of the working population currently working from home and the pandemic plus the winter weather encouraging more use of mobiles and
home computers for entertainment, the internet usage has more than
doubled according to some reports in the press. This is bound to make
queues for packets awaiting transmission on the busiest links.

This is most noticeable on popular services such as Youtube videos. At
busy times the almost unwatchable because of the duration of all the
pauses, and I don't bother with the stream as it arrives, I let it get
to end then play it again from the browser cache.

Jim

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On 29/12/2021 09:28, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:

On some of the free online channels on my samsung TV despite a fast
internet connection, and it being up close to the router, on some channels you get this drop out and it might happen several times while you watch a program.
Intriguingly, in the main it does not affect the program at all, it tends to be just as the ad breaks start or during them, as if the ads were coming from a different server with a poor bandwidth or different routing. Has anyone else encountered this.

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As far as I know, Ad breaks in streams from commercial channel services
ARE served from different servers which the streaming device has to "go
fetch" when it encounters an ad break marker in the stream. I expect
this is what you are experiencing.

Mark

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Indy Jess John wrote:

With much of the working population currently working from home and the pandemic
plus the winter weather encouraging more use of mobiles and home computers for
entertainment, the internet usage has more than doubled according to some reports in the press.

Sounds about right, for my main customer we tripled the bandwidth going into covid, and actually usage only doubled, but it's nice to have the headroom.

This is bound to make queues for packets awaiting
transmission on the busiest links.

Thankfully I have noticed no such thing.

This is most noticeable on popular services such as Youtube videos. At busy times the almost unwatchable because of the duration of all the pauses, and I don't bother with the stream as it arrives, I let it get to end then play it again from the browser cache.

Again, that doesn't happen here, I watch far more youtube than TV, and buffering
is almost non-existent, I can scrub-back and forth along timelines.

Videos from "newspaper" websites are the ones that I find buffer for ever, I assume they are bandwidth started at the server-end.

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Andy Burns wrote:

Videos from "newspaper" websites are the ones that I find buffer for ever, I assume they are bandwidth started at the server-end.

s/started/starved/

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In article <sqhbgk$ocb$1@dont-email.me>, Indy Jess John <bathwatchdog@OMITTHISgooglemail.com> wrote:

This is most noticeable on popular services such as Youtube videos. At
busy times the almost unwatchable because of the duration of all the
pauses, and I don't bother with the stream as it arrives, I let it get
to end then play it again from the browser cache.

FWIW since we have a useable limit-per-month that only actually applies
between 9am and 12-midnight I simply use get-iplayer for BBC and the
equivalent for yootoob to fetch items as AV files. These generally actually come far quicker than 'watching'. And can then be played from the local
file.

I get most of them before 9am so keep well clear of the 'cap' on my
connection quantity/month. That in turn means the connection is usually
fast during the day as well as I don't get a local 'throttle' applied if I actually have fetched more than what would be the limit if during the
limited periods. So can also occasionally get something just before I want
to watch it.

Jim

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I think often the beginnings of lack of net neutrality in the states can be
to blame where certain services pay for packet priority over some networks.
I hope somebody has stop this free for all in the US brought in by Mr Trump.
Brian

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Andy Burns wrote:

Videos from "newspaper" websites are the ones that I find buffer for
ever, I assume they are bandwidth started at the server-end.

s/started/starved/

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