I have several fairly new tellys and they all do teletext. But my mate
says his doesn't and nor do the tellys of some of his mates. So it it
true that new tellys will do red button but not teletext?
Bill
I have several fairly new tellys and they all do teletext. But my mateMy new all-singing-all-dancing LG 48" oled does not have teletext, much
says his doesn't and nor do the tellys of some of his mates. So it it
true that new tellys will do red button but not teletext?
Bill
On 10/12/2021 14:15, williamwright wrote:
I have several fairly new tellys and they all do teletext. But my mateMy new all-singing-all-dancing LG 48" oled does not have teletext, much
says his doesn't and nor do the tellys of some of his mates. So it it
true that new tellys will do red button but not teletext?
Bill
to the wifes annoyance.
On Fri 10/12/2021 16:02, Torx wrote:
On 10/12/2021 14:15, williamwright wrote:
I have several fairly new tellys and they all do teletext. But myMy new all-singing-all-dancing LG 48" oled does not have teletext,
mate says his doesn't and nor do the tellys of some of his mates. So
it it true that new tellys will do red button but not teletext?
Bill
much to the wifes annoyance.
Teletext was switched off in 2009 so you if your TV has it there is
something wrong!
I have several fairly new tellys and they all do teletext. But my mate
says his doesn't and nor do the tellys of some of his mates. So it it
true that new tellys will do red button but not teletext?
I have several fairly new tellys and they all do teletext. But my mate
says his doesn't and nor do the tellys of some of his mates. So it it
true that new tellys will do red button but not teletext?
On 10/12/2021 14:15, williamwright wrote:
I have several fairly new tellys and they all do teletext. But my mate
says his doesn't and nor do the tellys of some of his mates. So it it
true that new tellys will do red button but not teletext?
If you mean digital text, the red button just does the same as pressing
the Text button, and is only available on BBC stations.
On Fri 10/12/2021 16:02, Torx wrote:
On 10/12/2021 14:15, williamwright wrote:
I have several fairly new tellys and they all do teletext. But myMy new all-singing-all-dancing LG 48" oled does not have teletext,
mate says his doesn't and nor do the tellys of some of his mates. So
it it true that new tellys will do red button but not teletext?
Bill
much to the wifes annoyance.
Teletext was switched off in 2009 so you if your TV has it there is
something wrong!
Red button text was supposed to be switched off last year because of the
(yet again) metrocentric decision that it is not required as most people
get their news on their phones. There was such an outcry that (I think)
it is now running until at least the back end of next year.
The annoying bit is that the best TV we have - a Samsung 32" smart TV -
 doesn't have red button either, or rather it does but (on BBC) it just uses iPlayer to restart the current program!
On 10/12/2021 16:43, Woody wrote:
On Fri 10/12/2021 16:02, Torx wrote:
On 10/12/2021 14:15, williamwright wrote:
I have several fairly new tellys and they all do teletext. But myMy new all-singing-all-dancing LG 48" oled does not have teletext,
mate says his doesn't and nor do the tellys of some of his mates. So
it it true that new tellys will do red button but not teletext?
Bill
much to the wifes annoyance.
Teletext was switched off in 2009 so you if your TV has it there is
something wrong!
Red button text was supposed to be switched off last year because of
the (yet again) metrocentric decision that it is not required as most
people get their news on their phones. There was such an outcry that
(I think) it is now running until at least the back end of next year.
The annoying bit is that the best TV we have - a Samsung 32" smart TV
- Â Â doesn't have red button either, or rather it does but (on BBC) it
just uses iPlayer to restart the current program!
My old Samsung "smart" TV got Teletext, as does my LG set in the
bedroom. We can also get it via our DVR. I don't know why people think
it was switched off in 2009, it wasn't because there was a huge outcry
over it and the Beeb quietly changed it's mind!
On 10/12/2021 18:33, Torx wrote:
On 10/12/2021 16:43, Woody wrote:FWIW Teletext died on UK terrestrial TV when the analogue shutdown
On Fri 10/12/2021 16:02, Torx wrote:My old Samsung "smart" TV got Teletext, as does my LG set in the >>bedroom. We can also get it via our DVR. I don't know why people
On 10/12/2021 14:15, williamwright wrote:
I have several fairly new tellys and they all do teletext. But my >>>>>mate says his doesn't and nor do the tellys of some of his mates.My new all-singing-all-dancing LG 48" oled does not have teletext, >>>>much to the wifes annoyance.
So it it true that new tellys will do red button but not teletext?
Bill
Teletext was switched off in 2009 so you if your TV has it there is >>>something wrong!
Red button text was supposed to be switched off last year because of
the (yet again) metrocentric decision that it is not required as most >>>people get their news on their phones. There was such an outcry that
(I think) it is now running until at least the back end of next year.
The annoying bit is that the best TV we have - a Samsung 32" smart
TV - doesn't have red button either, or rather it does but (on
BBC) it just uses iPlayer to restart the current program!
think it was switched off in 2009, it wasn't because there was a huge >>outcry over it and the Beeb quietly changed it's mind!
completed in 2012. The current BBC service (which they intended to
close more recently but relented) is digital text.
In message <sp0896$76i$1@dont-email.me>, MikeS <MikeS@fred.com> writes
On 10/12/2021 18:33, Torx wrote:
On 10/12/2021 16:43, Woody wrote:FWIW Teletext died on UK terrestrial TV when the analogue shutdown
On Fri 10/12/2021 16:02, Torx wrote:Â My old Samsung "smart" TV got Teletext, as does my LG set in the
On 10/12/2021 14:15, williamwright wrote:
I have several fairly new tellys and they all do teletext. But myMy new all-singing-all-dancing LG 48" oled does not have teletext,
mate says his doesn't and nor do the tellys of some of his mates.
So it it true that new tellys will do red button but not teletext? >>>>>>
Bill
much to the wifes annoyance.
Teletext was switched off in 2009 so you if your TV has it there is
something wrong!
Red button text was supposed to be switched off last year because of
the (yet again) metrocentric decision that it is not required as
most people get their news on their phones. There was such an outcry
that (I think) it is now running until at least the back end of next
year.
The annoying bit is that the best TV we have - a Samsung 32" smart
TVÂ - Â Â doesn't have red button either, or rather it does but (on
BBC) it just uses iPlayer to restart the current program!
bedroom. We can also get it via our DVR. I don't know why people
think it was switched off in 2009, it wasn't because there was a
huge outcry over it and the Beeb quietly changed it's mind!
completed in 2012. The current BBC service (which they intended to
close more recently but relented) is digital text.
I suspect that the BBC's original intention to close their text service
may be why some modern TVs don't make provision for it. There would be
no point in offering a facility if it was expected to become redundant
in the very near future.
I think some UK satellite channels might use WST for subtitles (in
addition to the DVB versions) I've lost track ?
Teletext was switched off in 2009 so you if your TV has it there is something wrong!
Digital text on the other hand is more like ANSI text and 'looks' like
proper text with smooth and rounded edges and is very much more readable.
Teletext was made of of very tiny square blocks that were made to merge together by clever character design to look like text but which could
not have smooth corners and the like.
On 10/12/2021 14:15, williamwright wrote:
I have several fairly new tellys and they all do teletext. But my mate
says his doesn't and nor do the tellys of some of his mates. So it it
true that new tellys will do red button but not teletext?
Bill
This mostly applies to BBC channels but if the TV is correctly designed it will do both on either Freeview or Freesat.
On my Panasonic the remote Text button opens the digital text pages, the
Red button opens the red button screens. There may be an issue with newer Freeview Play sets. For a while I could not get the Text option to work on Freeview but a forum post explained why (needed a data option correctly
set for each BBC channel).
In analogue days, I used teletext all the time.
So did I, until the BBC news had a website.
It has been replaced by a far better technology, regardless of whether
it's analogue or digital television.
On 12/12/2021 12:11, Richard Tobin wrote:
So did I, until the BBC news had a website.
It has been replaced by a far better technology, regardless of whether
it's analogue or digital television.
Is it better technology?
Where is the Newsflash button on the digital Text system? I learnt of
many major news stories through a newsflash appearing whilst watching
another programme.
That comes up on your phone.
Where is the Newsflash button on the digital Text system? I learnt of
many major news stories through a newsflash appearing whilst watching another programme.
On 10/12/2021 20:05, Woody wrote:
Digital text on the other hand is more like ANSI text and 'looks' like
proper text with smooth and rounded edges and is very much more readable.
But teletext was a better system than the digital text service and did
things digital text is not capable of doing.
It would be interesting to see some usage figure for digital text
compared with teletext. I have not used digital text for years and it
was only briefly then. In analogue days, I used teletext all the time.
On Fri 10/12/2021 16:02, Torx wrote:
On 10/12/2021 14:15, williamwright wrote:
I have several fairly new tellys and they all do teletext. But myMy new all-singing-all-dancing LG 48" oled does not have teletext,
mate says his doesn't and nor do the tellys of some of his mates. So
it it true that new tellys will do red button but not teletext?
Bill
much to the wifes annoyance.
Teletext was switched off in 2009 so you if your TV has it there is
something wrong!
Red button text was supposed to be switched off last year because of the
(yet again) metrocentric decision that it is not required as most people
get their news on their phones. There was such an outcry that (I think)
it is now running until at least the back end of next year.
The annoying bit is that the best TV we have - a Samsung 32" smart TV -
 doesn't have red button either, or rather it does but (on BBC) it just uses iPlayer to restart the current program!
Op 10-12-2021 om 17:43 schreef Woody:
On Fri 10/12/2021 16:02, Torx wrote:
On 10/12/2021 14:15, williamwright wrote:
I have several fairly new tellys and they all do teletext. But myMy new all-singing-all-dancing LG 48" oled does not have teletext,
mate says his doesn't and nor do the tellys of some of his mates. So
it it true that new tellys will do red button but not teletext?
Bill
much to the wifes annoyance.
Teletext was switched off in 2009 so you if your TV has it there is
something wrong!
No it's not switched off at all tv-stations.
BBC still uses page 888 for subtitles. And that's on our cable-tv. in
the Netherlands.
Maybe there is more teletext on BBC TV in the UK?
Dutch and German TV have more teletext. It even is used for news and information.
Not all tv-programs has teletext, especially commercial tv switched it
off, or are using it only for subtitles.
Rink
Red button text was supposed to be switched off last year because of
the (yet again) metrocentric decision that it is not required as most
people get their news on their phones. There was such an outcry that
(I think) it is now running until at least the back end of next year.
The annoying bit is that the best TV we have - a Samsung 32" smart TV
- Â Â doesn't have red button either, or rather it does but (on BBC) it
just uses iPlayer to restart the current program!
If Dutch cable TV has 888 subtitles, I suspect they're extracted from the UK MHEG data and re-inserted locally as teletext?
Woody wrote:
Teletext was switched off in 2009 so you if your TV has it there is something
wrong!
BBC still uses page 888 for subtitles. And that's on our cable-tv. in the Netherlands.
Rink wrote:
Woody wrote:
Teletext was switched off in 2009 so you if your TV has it there is
something wrong!
BBC still uses page 888 for subtitles. And that's on our cable-tv. in the
Netherlands.
If Dutch cable TV has 888 subtitles, I suspect they're extracted from the
UK MHEG data and re-inserted locally as teletext?
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