• BBC Alba

    From Scott@21:1/5 to All on Mon Nov 29 18:47:51 2021
    I want to watch Scotland Women play Spain tomorrow evening. This is
    being shown on BBC Alba, which is not available in HD on Freeview. I
    am wondering two things:

    1. Will the iPlayer version be better quality than Freeview SD?
    2. I understand the main commentary is in Gaelic with a red button
    option for English. Is the red button available on iPlayer?

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk on Mon Nov 29 21:25:24 2021
    On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 18:47:51 +0000, Scott
    <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    I want to watch Scotland Women play Spain tomorrow evening. This is
    being shown on BBC Alba, which is not available in HD on Freeview. I
    am wondering two things:

    1. Will the iPlayer version be better quality than Freeview SD?
    2. I understand the main commentary is in Gaelic with a red button
    option for English. Is the red button available on iPlayer?

    It seems the answer to my second question is yes: https://mgalba.com/expanded-bbc-scotland-bbc-alba-sports-collaboration/?lang=en

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  • From Vir Campestris@21:1/5 to Scott on Thu Dec 9 22:00:54 2021
    On 29/11/2021 21:25, Scott wrote:
    On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 18:47:51 +0000, Scott
    <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    I want to watch Scotland Women play Spain tomorrow evening. This is
    being shown on BBC Alba, which is not available in HD on Freeview. I
    am wondering two things:

    1. Will the iPlayer version be better quality than Freeview SD?
    2. I understand the main commentary is in Gaelic with a red button
    option for English. Is the red button available on iPlayer?

    It seems the answer to my second question is yes: https://mgalba.com/expanded-bbc-scotland-bbc-alba-sports-collaboration/?lang=en


    The answer to your first one is "It depends".

    It could be much better, but your internet connection may not be up to
    it, or they may deliberately throttle it to keep their costs down.

    Andy

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to vir.campestris@invalid.invalid on Fri Dec 10 09:50:04 2021
    On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 22:00:54 +0000, Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:

    On 29/11/2021 21:25, Scott wrote:
    On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 18:47:51 +0000, Scott
    <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    I want to watch Scotland Women play Spain tomorrow evening. This is
    being shown on BBC Alba, which is not available in HD on Freeview. I
    am wondering two things:

    1. Will the iPlayer version be better quality than Freeview SD?
    2. I understand the main commentary is in Gaelic with a red button
    option for English. Is the red button available on iPlayer?

    It seems the answer to my second question is yes:
    https://mgalba.com/expanded-bbc-scotland-bbc-alba-sports-collaboration/?lang=en


    The answer to your first one is "It depends".

    It could be much better, but your internet connection may not be up to
    it, or they may deliberately throttle it to keep their costs down.

    Thanks. Back to Q1, I could not find any red button on the iPlayer
    (or more specifically on my Roku remote control) and ended up watching
    the SD version.

    Before anyone says it, I know I should have watched England v Latvia
    instead :-)

    Re Q2, my Internet connection is fine but anything is possible with
    the BBC. Does iPlayer show details of resolution, or do you mean the
    BBC could have opted for a lower quality link from Spain to cut costs?

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  • From Jim Lesurf@21:1/5 to vir.campestris@invalid.invalid on Fri Dec 10 10:10:25 2021
    In article <sotuam$2af$1@dont-email.me>, Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 29/11/2021 21:25, Scott wrote:
    On Mon, 29 Nov 2021 18:47:51 +0000, Scott
    <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    I want to watch Scotland Women play Spain tomorrow evening. This is
    being shown on BBC Alba, which is not available in HD on Freeview. I
    am wondering two things:

    1. Will the iPlayer version be better quality than Freeview SD? 2.
    I understand the main commentary is in Gaelic with a red button
    option for English. Is the red button available on iPlayer?

    It seems the answer to my second question is yes: https://mgalba.com/expanded-bbc-scotland-bbc-alba-sports-collaboration/?lang=en


    The answer to your first one is "It depends".

    It could be much better, but your internet connection may not be up to
    it, or they may deliberately throttle it to keep their costs down.

    I've not checked, but I assume the BBC Alba files should play via their
    website in the same way as their other channels. That in turn should mean
    that get-iplayer should fetch file versions much as it does with the other channels.

    Similarly, I assume their highest video quality will be as for their other
    TV channels. gip lets you choose the video/audio options you prefer.

    I've not seen any sign that the BBC are 'throttling' this. Video fetches
    here from the BBC run at about my stated connection rate if I do them
    before 9am.

    FWIW youtoob *have* been throttling. But a fix has been provided for people
    who have used yt-dl in the form of a fork into a new version that uses
    multiple parallel fetches.

    Jim

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  • From Jim Lesurf@21:1/5 to newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk on Fri Dec 10 14:54:09 2021
    In article <7e86rgh852cpnlti4i5n7jt8gcpn9a7h0b@4ax.com>, Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    Re Q2, my Internet connection is fine but anything is possible with the
    BBC. Does iPlayer show details of resolution, or do you mean the BBC
    could have opted for a lower quality link from Spain to cut costs?

    The level of picture quality may in some cases be limited by a copyright holder. Hence some films, for example, may be lower resolution because the copyright owners either refused to allow the max iPlayer 'HD' res, or
    demanded too much extra payment for that compared with 'SD'.

    I don't have any interest in 'sport', so can't say if that also crops up
    there or not. But it may for the above reason.

    The max may also be limited by the device/system you're using. Again, I
    can't comment beyond that as I used gip and a Linux box for any BBC video fetched via the net.

    Jim

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to noise@audiomisc.co.uk on Fri Dec 10 18:55:20 2021
    On Fri, 10 Dec 2021 14:54:09 +0000 (GMT), Jim Lesurf
    <noise@audiomisc.co.uk> wrote:

    In article <7e86rgh852cpnlti4i5n7jt8gcpn9a7h0b@4ax.com>, Scott ><newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    Re Q2, my Internet connection is fine but anything is possible with the
    BBC. Does iPlayer show details of resolution, or do you mean the BBC
    could have opted for a lower quality link from Spain to cut costs?

    The level of picture quality may in some cases be limited by a copyright >holder. Hence some films, for example, may be lower resolution because the >copyright owners either refused to allow the max iPlayer 'HD' res, or >demanded too much extra payment for that compared with 'SD'.

    I don't have any interest in 'sport', so can't say if that also crops up >there or not. But it may for the above reason.

    The max may also be limited by the device/system you're using. Again, I
    can't comment beyond that as I used gip and a Linux box for any BBC video >fetched via the net.

    Thanks. An easier question then: is it possible to watch the iPlayer
    in English or is it only in Gaelic?

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  • From Java Jive@21:1/5 to Scott on Fri Dec 10 20:58:06 2021
    On 10/12/2021 18:55, Scott wrote:

    Thanks. An easier question then: is it possible to watch the iPlayer
    in English or is it only in Gaelic?

    Don't think so, but it is subtitled.

    They've recently been repeating the 'Transatlantic Sessions' series, or
    rather refashioned them into a new series of clips from them, introduced
    by Julie Fowlis in Gaelic.

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to All on Sun Apr 16 14:00:01 2023
    I just noticed that BBC Alba is on Freeview all afternoon (football I
    think), it does not normally start until 1600h weekends and 1700h during
    the week.

    I checked the EPG for a week ago and a week forward and no Alba on
    Freeview on those Sundays at this time.

    Am I right in thinking that it is not normally on Sunday afternoons?
    Where have they got the bandwidth from?

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Sun Apr 16 16:00:19 2023
    On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 14:00:01 +0100
    MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    I just noticed that BBC Alba is on Freeview all afternoon (football I
    think), it does not normally start until 1600h weekends and 1700h
    during the week.

    I checked the EPG for a week ago and a week forward and no Alba on
    Freeview on those Sundays at this time.

    Am I right in thinking that it is not normally on Sunday afternoons?
    Where have they got the bandwidth from?



    Maybe there's a broadcast equivalent of 'Quantitative Easing', ie just
    make it up as you need it.

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to Davey on Mon Apr 17 09:20:21 2023
    No if you look at the various plus 1s and other things like the bbc kiddies stuff, you often find that bbc 4 and 3 tend to be on when some of the others are not.
    I suppose there must be some dynamic bandwidth sharing going on so channels are basically virtual in nature, but what happens on the small transmitters where all services are not present, one assumes there is a part of the
    sharing system that only shares amongst the ones everyone gets or maybe its just a bloke with a row of buttons. That would be the British way, sitting there eating his Marmite sandwiches and pressing buttons every so often.
    Brian

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    On Sun, 16 Apr 2023 14:00:01 +0100
    MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    I just noticed that BBC Alba is on Freeview all afternoon (football I
    think), it does not normally start until 1600h weekends and 1700h
    during the week.

    I checked the EPG for a week ago and a week forward and no Alba on
    Freeview on those Sundays at this time.

    Am I right in thinking that it is not normally on Sunday afternoons?
    Where have they got the bandwidth from?



    Maybe there's a broadcast equivalent of 'Quantitative Easing', ie just
    make it up as you need it.

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Mon Apr 17 09:15:19 2023
    Nicked it from red button?
    Anyway, it always seems a strange name to use when you remember Alba used
    to make Radios back in my youth.
    Brian

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    "MB" <MB@nospam.net> wrote in message news:u1grgh$2i1ph$1@dont-email.me...
    I just noticed that BBC Alba is on Freeview all afternoon (football I
    think), it does not normally start until 1600h weekends and 1700h during
    the week.

    I checked the EPG for a week ago and a week forward and no Alba on
    Freeview on those Sundays at this time.

    Am I right in thinking that it is not normally on Sunday afternoons? Where have they got the bandwidth from?



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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to brian1gaff@gmail.com on Mon Apr 17 12:42:46 2023
    On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 09:20:21 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
    <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:

    No if you look at the various plus 1s and other things like the bbc kiddies >stuff, you often find that bbc 4 and 3 tend to be on when some of the others >are not.
    I suppose there must be some dynamic bandwidth sharing going on so channels
    are basically virtual in nature, but what happens on the small transmitters >where all services are not present, one assumes there is a part of the >sharing system that only shares amongst the ones everyone gets or maybe its >just a bloke with a row of buttons. That would be the British way, sitting >there eating his Marmite sandwiches and pressing buttons every so often.
    Brian

    Is it not a case of entire multiplexes 'missing' from the relay
    (Freeview Lite) transmitters? I thought main transmitters carried six multiplexes and relays three. I cannot see any difficulty in setting
    up a relay transmitter to broadcast three multiplexes only.

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to brian1gaff@gmail.com on Mon Apr 17 12:38:12 2023
    On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 09:15:19 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
    <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:

    Nicked it from red button?
    Anyway, it always seems a strange name to use when you remember Alba used
    to make Radios back in my youth.
    Brian

    I think Alex Salmond used to work there.

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  • From Max Demian@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Mon Apr 17 14:08:22 2023
    On 17/04/2023 09:15, Brian Gaff wrote:

    Nicked it from red button?
    Anyway, it always seems a strange name to use when you remember Alba used to make Radios back in my youth.

    Yoof? It was the brand name of Argos before they changed to Bush. I've
    got an Alba Radio.

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to All on Mon Apr 17 14:43:33 2023
    On 17/04/2023 14:38, MB wrote:
    It goes back long before ARGOS existed.


    This is what happened to many radio manufacturers, the name bought by
    people like ARGOS, Comet,Dixons etc


    Liverpool Daily Post (Welsh Edition) - Friday 09 July 1982
    DIGEST
    Receivers called in
    RECEIVERS have been appointed to the Alba hi-fi and radio firm AJ
    Balcombe. A statement last night said they were now investigating the
    affairs of the company with a view to offering parts of the business for
    sale as a going concern It was hoped that this would enable viable parts
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  • From MB@21:1/5 to Max Demian on Mon Apr 17 14:38:36 2023
    On 17/04/2023 14:08, Max Demian wrote:
    Yoof? It was the brand name of Argos before they changed to Bush. I've
    got an Alba Radio.



    It goes back long before ARGOS existed.

    1930s and 1940s

    A. J. Balcombe Lld, 52-58 Tabernacle Street, London EC2

    Daily Herald - Saturday 26 August 1933
    Image © Reach PLC. Image created courtesy of THE BRITISH LIBRARY BOARD.
    ONE of the new Alba receivers (A. J. Balcombe. Ltd). is a seven-valve
    superhet at 19 guineas. Automatic volume control and a special circuit
    for suppressing noise when tuning between stations are features of this
    model.
    This latter refinement can however, made inoperative when searching for
    really distant transmission.
    Another Alba seven-valve model, also of the superheterodyne type, tunes
    on four wave bands, from 8-20. 20-55, 200-550 and 800-2.000 metres.
    Each set provides an undlstorted output of 3 watts, and Incorporates
    delayed automatic volume control

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  • From the dog from that film you saw@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Mon Apr 17 17:12:44 2023
    On 17/04/2023 09:15, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Nicked it from red button?
    Anyway, it always seems a strange name to use when you remember Alba used to make Radios back in my youth.
    Brian



    i'm still waiting for ITV saisho and bbc sansui

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to the dog from that film you saw on Tue Apr 18 08:45:02 2023
    Yes Sansui is an odd one as is Technics, since both were offshoots from otherwise successful Japanese brands and of good quality, but they are no
    more.
    Do Akai still exist?
    I had a cassette deck and a tv/video combo from them. Very reliable stuff.
    Brian

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    On 17/04/2023 09:15, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Nicked it from red button?
    Anyway, it always seems a strange name to use when you remember Alba
    used
    to make Radios back in my youth.
    Brian



    i'm still waiting for ITV saisho and bbc sansui

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to Max Demian on Tue Apr 18 08:33:39 2023
    It goes back to a long while ago. They even made portable radios withvalves
    in them back in the 50s, that needed lt and ht batteries They made TVs that were only 405 line as well. Gradually the smaller names joined forces then
    one of the bigger asset strippers got hold of them and in some cases just
    kept the names to licence to shops, with any old electronics inside.
    Wharfdale, Bush, Goodmans, Alba Murphy,. The list is endless. a lot of
    sstuff seemed to have internally branding as Harvard, who I'd never heard of and were made all over the globe.
    Many companies now use brand engineering of course and outsource design and building, like Phillips, they flogged off Grundig as a trademark. Some of
    their current stuff seems to be made in Poland.
    However I suspect many items are mostly Chinese. Isn't Quad Chinese now?
    Brian

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    On 17/04/2023 09:15, Brian Gaff wrote:

    Nicked it from red button?
    Anyway, it always seems a strange name to use when you remember Alba
    used
    to make Radios back in my youth.

    Yoof? It was the brand name of Argos before they changed to Bush. I've
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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Tue Apr 18 08:38:44 2023
    I saw a Dynatron console radio similar to that spec not that long ago, which had been restored. I don't recall what it was worth, but a lot of money. It
    had electrostatic tweeters in the sides. Odd as on most wavebands there was hardly any top at all. My favourite part was the motorised pre set tuning
    that had several memories and actually slowly drove the tuning to the right place by a motor and some kind of servo system. Probably cost more than the radio to make.
    Brian

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    On 17/04/2023 14:08, Max Demian wrote:
    Yoof? It was the brand name of Argos before they changed to Bush. I've
    got an Alba Radio.



    It goes back long before ARGOS existed.

    1930s and 1940s

    A. J. Balcombe Lld, 52-58 Tabernacle Street, London EC2

    Daily Herald - Saturday 26 August 1933
    Image © Reach PLC. Image created courtesy of THE BRITISH LIBRARY BOARD.
    ONE of the new Alba receivers (A. J. Balcombe. Ltd). is a seven-valve superhet at 19 guineas. Automatic volume control and a special circuit for suppressing noise when tuning between stations are features of this model. This latter refinement can however, made inoperative when searching for really distant transmission.
    Another Alba seven-valve model, also of the superheterodyne type, tunes on four wave bands, from 8-20. 20-55, 200-550 and 800-2.000 metres. Each set provides an undlstorted output of 3 watts, and Incorporates delayed
    automatic volume control



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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Tue Apr 18 08:41:44 2023
    Do Hacker still exist?
    I know Roberts do, as they make a number of products for older people and those with poor sight, but I doubt if they are made here any more. I have
    one of their recent DAB radios and its tough and very nice, pitty it cannot speak the station names though.
    Brian

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    "MB" <MB@nospam.net> wrote in message news:u1jie5$327er$2@dont-email.me...
    On 17/04/2023 14:38, MB wrote:
    It goes back long before ARGOS existed.


    This is what happened to many radio manufacturers, the name bought by
    people like ARGOS, Comet,Dixons etc


    Liverpool Daily Post (Welsh Edition) - Friday 09 July 1982
    DIGEST
    Receivers called in
    RECEIVERS have been appointed to the Alba hi-fi and radio firm AJ
    Balcombe. A statement last night said they were now investigating the affairs of the company with a view to offering parts of the business for
    sale as a going concern It was hoped that this would enable viable parts
    of the business to be saved and jobs preserved

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  • From Roderick Stewart@21:1/5 to brian1gaff@gmail.com on Tue Apr 18 09:23:53 2023
    On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 08:41:44 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
    <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:

    Do Hacker still exist?

    Apparently not. There's a Wikipedia page that gives all the details -

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_Radio_Ltd

    Once upon a time I bought a Hacker RP37 VHF only radio, because the
    case was nice and big, and included some empty space where the extra
    circuitry would have been in similar multi waveband models, which gave
    plenty of space for modifications. In my case, that meant the addition
    of a stereo decoder and a pair of audio amplifiers for stereo
    headphones. It worked very nicely, and as I'd also included a DIN
    output before the volume control, I could also use it as an FM tuner
    as part of the hi-fi system, which I did for several years.

    Hacker had a well deserved reputation for quality of manufacture, but
    were not especially well known, which was probably the cause of their
    ultimate downfall.

    Rod.

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  • From Davey@21:1/5 to Roderick Stewart on Tue Apr 18 09:48:46 2023
    On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 09:23:53 +0100
    Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    On Tue, 18 Apr 2023 08:41:44 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
    <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:

    Do Hacker still exist?

    Apparently not. There's a Wikipedia page that gives all the details -

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hacker_Radio_Ltd

    Once upon a time I bought a Hacker RP37 VHF only radio, because the
    case was nice and big, and included some empty space where the extra circuitry would have been in similar multi waveband models, which gave
    plenty of space for modifications. In my case, that meant the addition
    of a stereo decoder and a pair of audio amplifiers for stereo
    headphones. It worked very nicely, and as I'd also included a DIN
    output before the volume control, I could also use it as an FM tuner
    as part of the hi-fi system, which I did for several years.

    Hacker had a well deserved reputation for quality of manufacture, but
    were not especially well known, which was probably the cause of their ultimate downfall.

    Rod.

    Back in my student days, I bought myself a Hacker VHF radio as a
    present. It did sterling service, and went into storage when I moved to
    the US for 30-odd years. On my return, it didn't work, and I found a
    guy who repairs and restores only Hackers. He did a fine job, and it's
    still the kitchen radio today. And the wooden case sounds so much
    better that modern all-plastic things.
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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Scott on Tue Apr 18 10:33:13 2023
    "Scott" <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message news:8tbq3ilk2bi3nvn6beotbdbsvhjglhgr9p@4ax.com...
    On Mon, 17 Apr 2023 09:20:21 +0100, "Brian Gaff"
    <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:

    No if you look at the various plus 1s and other things like the bbc
    kiddies
    stuff, you often find that bbc 4 and 3 tend to be on when some of the >>others
    are not.
    I suppose there must be some dynamic bandwidth sharing going on so
    channels
    are basically virtual in nature, but what happens on the small
    transmitters
    where all services are not present, one assumes there is a part of the >>sharing system that only shares amongst the ones everyone gets or maybe >>its
    just a bloke with a row of buttons. That would be the British way, sitting >>there eating his Marmite sandwiches and pressing buttons every so often.
    Brian

    Is it not a case of entire multiplexes 'missing' from the relay
    (Freeview Lite) transmitters? I thought main transmitters carried six multiplexes and relays three. I cannot see any difficulty in setting
    up a relay transmitter to broadcast three multiplexes only.

    Yes that's how I understand it. Barring regional variations, every transmitter's copy of a given multiplex has the same channels, but relays
    don't transmit COM4/5/6. So PSB1 (for example) from Emley Moor (main) is the same as PSB1 from Batley (one of Emley's relays).

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to the dog from that film you saw on Sat Apr 22 19:04:51 2023
    On 17/04/2023 17:12, the dog from that film you saw wrote:
    On 17/04/2023 09:15, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Nicked it from red button?
      Anyway, it always seems a strange name to use when you remember Alba
    used
    to make Radios back in my youth.
      Brian



    i'm still waiting for ITV saisho and bbc sansui

    In case anyone doesn't know

    The "Alba" in "BBC Alba" is the Scottish Gaelic name for Scotland.

    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).

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