• Re: BBC account

    From Adrian Caspersz@21:1/5 to Jeff Layman on Fri Nov 26 21:14:05 2021
    On 26/11/2021 20:39, Jeff Layman wrote:
    For an unknown reason my BBC account has just been lost from my TV, and
    I've been asked to sign in again - for the first time in well over a
    year. Unfortunately, although I'd been able to sign in again with a new password on my laptop, I couldn't access anything on the TV which
    allowed me to sign in to that.

    After three attempts I finally got back into the TV. Anybody else had
    this issue recently with their BBC account?


    Don't you just login on the PC, go to a web page and enter the number
    that is displayed on the TV.

    That's how most smart TVs join these days (BBC/Youtube/CH5/Ch4/4Play),
    you don't need to enter the password on the TV.

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  • From Jeff Layman@21:1/5 to All on Fri Nov 26 20:39:43 2021
    For an unknown reason my BBC account has just been lost from my TV, and
    I've been asked to sign in again - for the first time in well over a
    year. Unfortunately, although I'd been able to sign in again with a new password on my laptop, I couldn't access anything on the TV which
    allowed me to sign in to that.

    After three attempts I finally got back into the TV. Anybody else had
    this issue recently with their BBC account?

    --

    Jeff

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  • From Jeff Layman@21:1/5 to Adrian Caspersz on Fri Nov 26 22:14:51 2021
    On 26/11/2021 21:14, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
    On 26/11/2021 20:39, Jeff Layman wrote:
    For an unknown reason my BBC account has just been lost from my TV, and
    I've been asked to sign in again - for the first time in well over a
    year. Unfortunately, although I'd been able to sign in again with a new
    password on my laptop, I couldn't access anything on the TV which
    allowed me to sign in to that.

    After three attempts I finally got back into the TV. Anybody else had
    this issue recently with their BBC account?


    Don't you just login on the PC, go to a web page and enter the number
    that is displayed on the TV.

    That's how most smart TVs join these days (BBC/Youtube/CH5/Ch4/4Play),
    you don't need to enter the password on the TV.

    That's what's supposed to happen. I got logged on using the laptop, but
    I could only use iPlayer on the TV as a guest (via a phone PIN). On the
    third attempt the TV recognised I was signed in on the laptop and I had
    access to iPlayer on the TV.

    I find it odd that you can't sign in directly on the TV. Why isn't it
    possible to enter a username and password via the TV's iPlayer app
    without messing around with a computer/smartphone?

    --

    Jeff

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  • From Brian Gaff (Sofa)@21:1/5 to Jeff Layman on Sat Nov 27 09:22:45 2021
    I get eternally annoyed with the bbc. Back last year when I got my tv, I got
    a friend to put in the details and it accepted them, but did not echo the
    keys from the bluetooth keyboard. All was well till about a week ago when Alexa the tv and almost everything else said you are not logged into your account and my log in was wrong when I retried it on a puter. I feel that
    the way they carry on, they should take their dummies away. Almost makes you want to be a hacker.
    Now also of course both Alexa ad the TV firmware had an update recently and its my guess one of those or both has tried to log in with corrupted
    details and locked me out, which of course means going in and creating a new account. Since I don't watch a lot of TV and most bbc radio stations can be accessed by Alexa ask my tuner radio to play bbc radio Solent or what ever, with no bbc sounds account, I'm noot rushing to do it.
    Bah humbug.
    Brian

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    "Jeff Layman" <jmlayman@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:snrgmf$2h8$1@dont-email.me...
    For an unknown reason my BBC account has just been lost from my TV, and
    I've been asked to sign in again - for the first time in well over a year. Unfortunately, although I'd been able to sign in again with a new password
    on my laptop, I couldn't access anything on the TV which allowed me to
    sign in to that.

    After three attempts I finally got back into the TV. Anybody else had this issue recently with their BBC account?

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    Jeff

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  • From Brian Gaff (Sofa)@21:1/5 to Adrian Caspersz on Sat Nov 27 09:23:53 2021
    For me thatis not an option as it can't read the thing.
    Brian

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    "Adrian Caspersz" <email@here.invalid> wrote in message news:j0d10tF9k88U1@mid.individual.net...
    On 26/11/2021 20:39, Jeff Layman wrote:
    For an unknown reason my BBC account has just been lost from my TV, and
    I've been asked to sign in again - for the first time in well over a
    year. Unfortunately, although I'd been able to sign in again with a new
    password on my laptop, I couldn't access anything on the TV which allowed
    me to sign in to that.

    After three attempts I finally got back into the TV. Anybody else had
    this issue recently with their BBC account?


    Don't you just login on the PC, go to a web page and enter the number that
    is displayed on the TV.

    That's how most smart TVs join these days (BBC/Youtube/CH5/Ch4/4Play), you don't need to enter the password on the TV.

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  • From Brian Gaff (Sofa)@21:1/5 to Jeff Layman on Sat Nov 27 09:26:19 2021
    I did not even know about this, since its not obvious on the tv or alexa
    app for that matter.
    Next you will find its via a qr code I suppose. sigh, badly thought out
    again.
    Brian

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    "Jeff Layman" <jmlayman@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:snrm8s$ct7$1@dont-email.me...
    On 26/11/2021 21:14, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
    On 26/11/2021 20:39, Jeff Layman wrote:
    For an unknown reason my BBC account has just been lost from my TV, and
    I've been asked to sign in again - for the first time in well over a
    year. Unfortunately, although I'd been able to sign in again with a new
    password on my laptop, I couldn't access anything on the TV which
    allowed me to sign in to that.

    After three attempts I finally got back into the TV. Anybody else had
    this issue recently with their BBC account?


    Don't you just login on the PC, go to a web page and enter the number
    that is displayed on the TV.

    That's how most smart TVs join these days (BBC/Youtube/CH5/Ch4/4Play),
    you don't need to enter the password on the TV.

    That's what's supposed to happen. I got logged on using the laptop, but I could only use iPlayer on the TV as a guest (via a phone PIN). On the
    third attempt the TV recognised I was signed in on the laptop and I had access to iPlayer on the TV.

    I find it odd that you can't sign in directly on the TV. Why isn't it possible to enter a username and password via the TV's iPlayer app without messing around with a computer/smartphone?

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    Jeff

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  • From Adrian Caspersz@21:1/5 to Jeff Layman on Sat Nov 27 11:09:12 2021
    On 26/11/2021 22:14, Jeff Layman wrote:

    I find it odd that you can't sign in directly on the TV. Why isn't it possible to enter a username and password via the TV's iPlayer app
    without messing around with a computer/smartphone?

    Perhaps on-screen keyboards are too complicated for each platform, or
    the TV platform is too insecure to be trusted with hashing and
    communicating passwords.

    On this Amazon stick, iPlayer offered me an option to use a landline, to
    sign up without a mobile or computer. However, most (if not all) users
    of the Amazon stick are _very_ connected to the internet and email, so I
    don't think there will be many takers of that feature.

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  • From Jeff Layman@21:1/5 to Adrian Caspersz on Sat Nov 27 13:32:37 2021
    On 27/11/2021 11:09, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
    On 26/11/2021 22:14, Jeff Layman wrote:

    I find it odd that you can't sign in directly on the TV. Why isn't it
    possible to enter a username and password via the TV's iPlayer app
    without messing around with a computer/smartphone?

    Perhaps on-screen keyboards are too complicated for each platform, or
    the TV platform is too insecure to be trusted with hashing and
    communicating passwords.

    Perhaps, but the tv iPlayer app must be communicating with the iPlayer
    server at the BBC for them to know it's me and that I've previously
    signed up with them. So it's sending ID info of some sort across the
    internet from my tv to the BBC.

    I don't have any other "catch-up" accounts (ITV hub, My5, etc). Do they
    all require computer sign-on first before allowing access via the TV app?

    On this Amazon stick, iPlayer offered me an option to use a landline, to
    sign up without a mobile or computer. However, most (if not all) users
    of the Amazon stick are _very_ connected to the internet and email, so I don't think there will be many takers of that feature.

    My iPlayer app also has that option. There is limited access to iPlayer
    via a PIN obtained by phoning the BBC. The access lasts for a day only.

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  • From Pamela@21:1/5 to Jeff Layman on Sun Nov 28 11:11:55 2021
    On 22:14 26 Nov 2021, Jeff Layman said:

    On 26/11/2021 21:14, Adrian Caspersz wrote:
    On 26/11/2021 20:39, Jeff Layman wrote:
    For an unknown reason my BBC account has just been lost from my
    TV, and I've been asked to sign in again - for the first time in
    well over a year. Unfortunately, although I'd been able to sign in
    again with a new password on my laptop, I couldn't access anything
    on the TV which allowed me to sign in to that.

    After three attempts I finally got back into the TV. Anybody else
    had this issue recently with their BBC account?


    Don't you just login on the PC, go to a web page and enter the
    number that is displayed on the TV.

    That's how most smart TVs join these days
    (BBC/Youtube/CH5/Ch4/4Play), you don't need to enter the password
    on the TV.

    That's what's supposed to happen. I got logged on using the laptop,
    but I could only use iPlayer on the TV as a guest (via a phone PIN).
    On the third attempt the TV recognised I was signed in on the laptop
    and I had access to iPlayer on the TV.

    Bad internet connection?

    I find it odd that you can't sign in directly on the TV. Why isn't
    it possible to enter a username and password via the TV's iPlayer
    app without messing around with a computer/smartphone?

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  • From Jeff Layman@21:1/5 to Pamela on Mon Nov 29 07:36:51 2021
    On 28/11/2021 11:11, Pamela wrote:
    On 22:14 26 Nov 2021, Jeff Layman said:


    That's what's supposed to happen. I got logged on using the laptop,
    but I could only use iPlayer on the TV as a guest (via a phone PIN).
    On the third attempt the TV recognised I was signed in on the laptop
    and I had access to iPlayer on the TV.

    Bad internet connection?

    Very unlikely. It happened several times over 15 minutes of trying to
    sign in, and I was able to "sign in" as a guest for 24 hours. The rest
    of my internet stuff goes through the same wifi connection and that was
    fine throughout.

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    Jeff

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