• SWMBO request...... UHD and Coronation

    From SH@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 1 11:01:41 2023
    According to: https://rxtvinfo.com/2023/burley-lumley-for-sky-news-uhd-coronation-special/

    it states "Ultra HD coverage will be available from 09:00-17:00 at no
    extra cost to viewers with a compatible 4K UHD TV:"

    I have a UHD TV that is capable of both Freesat and Freeview.

    What are teh *exact* retuning details do I can access this free UHD channel?

    The only other way of getting it in UHD is either from BBC iPlayer or
    from Sky's Youtube player...

    I'd rather a feed through Freeview or Freesat in case theer are internet
    issues on the day or at least as a back up.

    S.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 1 11:34:58 2023
    SH wrote:

    "Ultra HD coverage will be available from 09:00-17:00 at no
    extra cost to viewers with a compatible 4K UHD TV:"

    What are teh *exact* retuning details do I can access this free UHD
    channel?

    I suspect the answer is "give it internet access and use iPlayer"

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Mon May 1 12:23:11 2023
    On 01/05/2023 11:34, Andy Burns wrote:
    SH wrote:

    "Ultra HD coverage will be available from 09:00-17:00 at no extra cost
    to viewers with a compatible 4K UHD TV:"

    What are teh *exact* retuning details do I can access this free UHD
    channel?

    I suspect the answer is "give it internet access and use iPlayer"




    Yes... and then lots of UHD TV's then connect to the internet streaming
    UHD content at 40 to 100 MB/s PER TV set.....

    See where I am going with this?

    The internet may well staurate and lead to lots of buffering or failed
    streams due to all the millions of TV sets....

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 1 13:11:49 2023
    SH wrote:

    The internet may well staurate and lead to lots of buffering or failed streams due to all the millions of TV sets....

    Wait until it happens, then write to Barry Took?

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Mon May 1 13:32:45 2023
    On 01/05/2023 13:11, Andy Burns wrote:
    SH wrote:

    The internet may well staurate and lead to lots of buffering or failed
    streams due to all the millions of TV sets....

    Wait until it happens, then write to Barry Took?



    Ha ha ha

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Tue May 2 10:24:13 2023
    Does that mean hd is down converted from uhd? Seeing as few will be
    watching, who is paying for this?. Now I understood that if the sets had the hardware and software, UHD is on several sats, so it is indeed confusing.

    If its on I Player in UHD, I wonder how many will actually have the speed to get it?
    Are they going the whole hog and using Dolby Atmos audio as well?
    Brian

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    SH wrote:

    "Ultra HD coverage will be available from 09:00-17:00 at no extra cost to
    viewers with a compatible 4K UHD TV:"

    What are teh *exact* retuning details do I can access this free UHD
    channel?

    I suspect the answer is "give it internet access and use iPlayer"



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  • From David@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 2 09:57:27 2023
    On Mon, 01 May 2023 11:01:41 +0100, SH wrote:

    According to: https://rxtvinfo.com/2023/burley-lumley-for-sky-news-uhd-coronation-
    special/

    it states "Ultra HD coverage will be available from 09:00-17:00 at no
    extra cost to viewers with a compatible 4K UHD TV:"

    I have a UHD TV that is capable of both Freesat and Freeview.

    What are teh *exact* retuning details do I can access this free UHD
    channel?

    The only other way of getting it in UHD is either from BBC iPlayer or
    from Sky's Youtube player...

    I'd rather a feed through Freeview or Freesat in case theer are internet issues on the day or at least as a back up.

    S.

    Site says:
    "If you have a Sky TV subscription, you’ll get UHD coverage with Sky Q,
    Sky Stream or Sky Glass. If you don’t, you can access UHD coverage through Sky News on the YouTube app on your smart UHD TV"

    So only accessible via YouTube?

    I don't initially see anything about a free channel on Freeview/Freesat or iPlayer.

    Cheers



    Dave R


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  • From R. Mark Clayton@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 2 04:05:54 2023
    On Monday, 1 May 2023 at 12:23:13 UTC+1, SH wrote:
    On 01/05/2023 11:34, Andy Burns wrote:
    SH wrote:

    "Ultra HD coverage will be available from 09:00-17:00 at no extra cost
    to viewers with a compatible 4K UHD TV:"

    What are teh *exact* retuning details do I can access this free UHD
    channel?

    I suspect the answer is "give it internet access and use iPlayer"


    Yes... and then lots of UHD TV's then connect to the internet streaming
    UHD content at 40 to 100 MB/s PER TV set.....

    We can run 2off 4k video streams [and other stuff] on a ~50Mbps BT broadband.


    See where I am going with this?

    The internet may well staurate and lead to lots of buffering or failed streams due to all the millions of TV sets....

    For streamed events (like this and the FA cup final) they have some technique to avoid this - essentially the stream is replicated to everyone watching it, but much nearer the end point.

    Watched the England world cup games at 4k on BBC no problem. ITV didn't do it.

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  • From Roderick Stewart@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 2 12:58:06 2023
    On Tue, 2 May 2023 10:24:13 +0100, "Brian Gaff" <brian1gaff@gmail.com>
    wrote:

    If its on I Player in UHD, I wonder how many will actually have the speed to >get it?

    Anyone with FTTP, or even FTTC if they're close enough to the cabinet.
    I remember the last coronation, when early adopters of the new
    technology would invite neighbours round, so maybe the same will
    happen again, amongst those who care about UHD, or coronations.

    Rod.

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  • From David Quinton@21:1/5 to David on Tue May 2 05:41:39 2023
    On Tuesday, 2 May 2023 at 10:57:31 UTC+1, David wrote:
    On Mon, 01 May 2023 11:01:41 +0100, SH wrote:

    According to: https://rxtvinfo.com/2023/burley-lumley-for-sky-news-uhd-coronation-
    special/

    it states "Ultra HD coverage will be available from 09:00-17:00 at no extra cost to viewers with a compatible 4K UHD TV:"

    I have a UHD TV that is capable of both Freesat and Freeview.

    What are teh *exact* retuning details do I can access this free UHD channel?

    The only other way of getting it in UHD is either from BBC iPlayer or
    from Sky's Youtube player...

    I'd rather a feed through Freeview or Freesat in case theer are internet issues on the day or at least as a back up.

    S.
    Site says:
    "If you have a Sky TV subscription, you’ll get UHD coverage with Sky Q, Sky Stream or Sky Glass. If you don’t, you can access UHD coverage through Sky News on the YouTube app on your smart UHD TV"

    So only accessible via YouTube?

    I don't initially see anything about a free channel on Freeview/Freesat or iPlayer.

    Cheers



    Dave R


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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 2 14:04:56 2023
    SH wrote:

    lots of UHD TV's then connect to the internet streaming UHD content
    at 40 to 100 MB/s PER TV set.....

    My TV can show iPlayer either with the built-in webOS app, or from HDMI
    via a chromecast app, both use wired ethernet on what is essentially an
    'ideal' FTTC connection 79.99Mbps down/19.99 Mbps up.

    A UHD/HDR stream of Attenborough's Wild Isles seems to vary between 2
    and 24 Mbps, I left it running but did notice it buffering once as I
    walked past.

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 2 16:00:13 2023
    On 01/05/2023 12:23, SH wrote:
    On 01/05/2023 11:34, Andy Burns wrote:
    SH wrote:

    "Ultra HD coverage will be available from 09:00-17:00 at no extra
    cost to viewers with a compatible 4K UHD TV:"

    What are teh *exact* retuning details do I can access this free UHD
    channel?

    I suspect the answer is "give it internet access and use iPlayer"




    Yes... and then lots of UHD TV's then connect to the internet
    streaming UHD content at 40 to 100 MB/s PER TV set.....

    See where I am going with this?

    The internet may well staurate and lead to lots of buffering or failed streams due to all the millions of TV sets....

    It didn't with Hazzer and Meg's bash, or The World Cup, or the Funeral, so.........

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Tue May 2 16:02:56 2023
    On 02/05/2023 16:00, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 01/05/2023 12:23, SH wrote:
    On 01/05/2023 11:34, Andy Burns wrote:
    SH wrote:

    "Ultra HD coverage will be available from 09:00-17:00 at no extra
    cost to viewers with a compatible 4K UHD TV:"

    What are teh *exact* retuning details do I can access this free UHD
    channel?

    I suspect the answer is "give it internet access and use iPlayer"




    Yes... and then lots of UHD TV's then connect to the internet
    streaming UHD content at 40 to 100 MB/s PER TV set.....

    See where I am going with this?

    The internet may well staurate and lead to lots of buffering or failed
    streams due to all the millions of TV sets....

    It didn't with Hazzer and Meg's bash, or The World Cup, or the Funeral, so.........


    So was the Funeral available in UHD then? (I did not watch it on any
    platform)

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to All on Tue May 2 16:20:19 2023
    On 02/05/2023 16:02, SH wrote:
    On 02/05/2023 16:00, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 01/05/2023 12:23, SH wrote:
    On 01/05/2023 11:34, Andy Burns wrote:
    SH wrote:

    "Ultra HD coverage will be available from 09:00-17:00 at no extra
    cost to viewers with a compatible 4K UHD TV:"

    What are teh *exact* retuning details do I can access this free
    UHD channel?

    I suspect the answer is "give it internet access and use iPlayer"




    Yes... and then lots of UHD TV's then connect to the internet
    streaming UHD content at 40 to 100 MB/s PER TV set.....

    See where I am going with this?

    The internet may well staurate and lead to lots of buffering or
    failed streams due to all the millions of TV sets....

    It didn't with Hazzer and Meg's bash, or The World Cup, or the
    Funeral, so.........


    So was the Funeral available in UHD then?  (I did not watch it on any platform)

    Actually I'm not sure it was now, but the funeral had lower viewing
    figures than some football matches, that have been in UHD.

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  • From R. Mark Clayton@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Tue May 2 10:39:53 2023
    On Tuesday, 2 May 2023 at 16:20:22 UTC+1, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 02/05/2023 16:02, SH wrote:
    On 02/05/2023 16:00, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 01/05/2023 12:23, SH wrote:
    On 01/05/2023 11:34, Andy Burns wrote:
    SH wrote:

    "Ultra HD coverage will be available from 09:00-17:00 at no extra
    cost to viewers with a compatible 4K UHD TV:"

    What are teh *exact* retuning details do I can access this free
    UHD channel?

    I suspect the answer is "give it internet access and use iPlayer"




    Yes... and then lots of UHD TV's then connect to the internet
    streaming UHD content at 40 to 100 MB/s PER TV set.....

    See where I am going with this?

    The internet may well staurate and lead to lots of buffering or
    failed streams due to all the millions of TV sets....

    It didn't with Hazzer and Meg's bash, or The World Cup, or the
    Funeral, so.........


    So was the Funeral available in UHD then? (I did not watch it on any platform)
    Actually I'm not sure it was now, but the funeral had lower viewing
    figures than some football matches, that have been in UHD.

    Pretty sombre AIR, not everyone would be keen to watch.

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to R. Mark Clayton on Tue May 2 19:13:10 2023
    On 02/05/2023 18:39, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
    On Tuesday, 2 May 2023 at 16:20:22 UTC+1, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 02/05/2023 16:02, SH wrote:
    On 02/05/2023 16:00, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 01/05/2023 12:23, SH wrote:
    On 01/05/2023 11:34, Andy Burns wrote:
    SH wrote:

    "Ultra HD coverage will be available from 09:00-17:00 at no extra >>>>>>> cost to viewers with a compatible 4K UHD TV:"

    What are teh *exact* retuning details do I can access this free
    UHD channel?

    I suspect the answer is "give it internet access and use iPlayer"




    Yes... and then lots of UHD TV's then connect to the internet
    streaming UHD content at 40 to 100 MB/s PER TV set.....

    See where I am going with this?

    The internet may well staurate and lead to lots of buffering or
    failed streams due to all the millions of TV sets....

    It didn't with Hazzer and Meg's bash, or The World Cup, or the
    Funeral, so.........


    So was the Funeral available in UHD then? (I did not watch it on any
    platform)
    Actually I'm not sure it was now, but the funeral had lower viewing
    figures than some football matches, that have been in UHD.

    Pretty sombre AIR, not everyone would be keen to watch.


    And I would imagine the coronation will have higher viewing figures than
    bags of air being kicked around by 22 men who like playing with balls on
    a green screen.

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  • From David@21:1/5 to David Quinton on Tue May 2 18:52:02 2023
    On Tue, 02 May 2023 05:41:39 -0700, David Quinton wrote:

    On Tuesday, 2 May 2023 at 10:57:31 UTC+1, David wrote:
    On Mon, 01 May 2023 11:01:41 +0100, SH wrote:

    According to:
    https://rxtvinfo.com/2023/burley-lumley-for-sky-news-uhd-coronation-
    special/

    it states "Ultra HD coverage will be available from 09:00-17:00 at no
    extra cost to viewers with a compatible 4K UHD TV:"

    I have a UHD TV that is capable of both Freesat and Freeview.

    What are teh *exact* retuning details do I can access this free UHD
    channel?

    The only other way of getting it in UHD is either from BBC iPlayer or
    from Sky's Youtube player...

    I'd rather a feed through Freeview or Freesat in case theer are
    internet issues on the day or at least as a back up.

    S.
    Site says:
    "If you have a Sky TV subscription, you’ll get UHD coverage with Sky Q,
    Sky Stream or Sky Glass. If you don’t, you can access UHD coverage
    through Sky News on the YouTube app on your smart UHD TV"

    So only accessible via YouTube?

    I don't initially see anything about a free channel on Freeview/Freesat
    or iPlayer.

    Cheers



    Dave R


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    https://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/help/questions/features/uhd-connected-tv/#/
    Notification

    Ta.
    So nothing to do with Sky at all. :-)

    Cheers



    Dave R


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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Wed May 3 03:16:16 2023
    Andy Burns wrote:

    [I] did notice it buffering once

    Having never bothered to sit down and watch a UHD/HDR programme before,
    I watched a couple of episodes of "The Gold" last night and

    1) it suffered from several episodes of buffering, for comparison never
    had that happen when watching 4K@60 youtube content on a decent laptop,
    though I presume iPlayer won't offer UHD/HDR to that same laptop?

    2) someone should have told the actors that gold bars are incredibly heavy

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  • From Tweed@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Wed May 3 05:52:15 2023
    Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Andy Burns wrote:

    [I] did notice it buffering once

    Having never bothered to sit down and watch a UHD/HDR programme before,
    I watched a couple of episodes of "The Gold" last night and

    1) it suffered from several episodes of buffering, for comparison never
    had that happen when watching 4K@60 youtube content on a decent laptop, though I presume iPlayer won't offer UHD/HDR to that same laptop?

    2) someone should have told the actors that gold bars are incredibly heavy



    This is one of the great advantages of the Sky system, where a large ish
    chunk of the programme is downloaded to hard disk before playback starts.
    So an enormous buffer. Perhaps with the collapse in RAM prices other
    devices might come with bigger buffers.

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to All on Wed May 3 07:59:12 2023
    On 02/05/2023 19:13, SH wrote:
    On 02/05/2023 18:39, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
    On Tuesday, 2 May 2023 at 16:20:22 UTC+1, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 02/05/2023 16:02, SH wrote:
    On 02/05/2023 16:00, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 01/05/2023 12:23, SH wrote:
    On 01/05/2023 11:34, Andy Burns wrote:
    SH wrote:

    "Ultra HD coverage will be available from 09:00-17:00 at no extra >>>>>>>> cost to viewers with a compatible 4K UHD TV:"

    What are teh *exact* retuning details do I can access this free >>>>>>>> UHD channel?

    I suspect the answer is "give it internet access and use iPlayer" >>>>>>>



    Yes... and then lots of UHD TV's then connect to the internet
    streaming UHD content at 40 to 100 MB/s PER TV set.....

    See where I am going with this?

    The internet may well staurate and lead to lots of buffering or
    failed streams due to all the millions of TV sets....

    It didn't with Hazzer and Meg's bash, or The World Cup, or the
    Funeral, so.........


    So was the Funeral available in UHD then?  (I did not watch it on any >>>> platform)
    Actually I'm not sure it was now, but the funeral had lower viewing
    figures than some football matches, that have been in UHD.

    Pretty sombre AIR, not everyone would be keen to watch.


    And I would imagine the coronation will have higher viewing figures
    than bags of air being kicked around by 22 men who like playing with
    balls on a green screen.

    I think the jury's out on that one......

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  • From Jim Lesurf@21:1/5 to brian1gaff@gmail.com on Wed May 3 10:09:13 2023
    By using get-iplayer people could fetch/watch UHD via first downloading the material as a file. If they have a slow connection, do it at night - when
    the fetching might be faster, but if not, still done by the time they want
    to watch it.

    That said, if people want to watch 'live'... But if they want to have a
    copy to view when it suits them the above should work I suspect.

    Jim


    In article <u2qkrv$mm0c$1@dont-email.me>, Brian Gaff
    <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:


    If its on I Player in UHD, I wonder how many will actually have the
    speed to get it? Are they going the whole hog and using Dolby Atmos
    audio as well? Brian

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  • From Jim Lesurf@21:1/5 to usenet@andyburns.uk on Wed May 3 10:14:56 2023
    In article <kbdufgFt813U1@mid.individual.net>, Andy Burns
    <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

    2) someone should have told the actors that gold bars are incredibly
    heavy

    FWIW c WW2 my Dad worked for a firm that took in 'gold and silver' which
    had been sent from abroad to 'pay' the Mint. He was one of the people who melted it down in large furnaces to separate the gold/silver from the
    dross. Stories of times when a furnace might overflow, etc, and gold or
    silver end up in pools and 'rivers' on the floor! Also of a lot of
    incoming gold/silver that was mainly dross.

    Jim

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Jim Lesurf on Thu May 4 10:11:04 2023
    Jim Lesurf wrote:

    By using get-iplayer people could fetch/watch UHD via first downloading the material as a file. If they have a slow connection, do it at night - when the fetching might be faster, but if not, still done by the time they want
    to watch it

    Yes I did start thinking of get-iplayer last night, since neither
    iPlayer on the LG or chromecast can handle 4K streaming, and on a PC, 4K
    isn't allowed.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Sat May 6 09:35:31 2023
    Andy Burns wrote:

    Having never bothered to sit down and watch a UHD/HDR programme before,
    I watched a couple of episodes of "The Gold" last night and
    it suffered from several episodes of buffering

    Seems that a reboot of my draytek router was overdue (uptime was from
    last July's firmware update) now iPlayer streaming starts much faster
    and no buffering, average 25 Mbps.

    If you're wondering why no UHD option for the Coronation on iPlayer, try disabling "beta"

    I think Barry Took can breathe easy ...

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  • From Jim Lesurf@21:1/5 to usenet@andyburns.uk on Fri May 5 10:31:20 2023
    In article <kbhb58FeocoU1@mid.individual.net>, Andy Burns
    <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Jim Lesurf wrote:

    By using get-iplayer people could fetch/watch UHD via first
    downloading the material as a file. If they have a slow connection,
    do it at night - when the fetching might be faster, but if not, still
    done by the time they want to watch it

    Yes I did start thinking of get-iplayer last night, since neither
    iPlayer on the LG or chromecast can handle 4K streaming, and on a PC, 4K isn't allowed.

    FWIW I normally fetch the quasi-HD versions. They aren't full HD but fairly similar. Here an hour's worth of programme takes about 3 - 5 mins to fetch.
    So I guess UHD 'live' might be practical. However our TV/display is
    standard HD and we're happy enough with that.

    Surprised that UHD isn't "allowed" on a "PC". Is that a 'doze deliberate
    limit? I use Linux so am unaware of how doze may limit.

    Jim

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to Jim Lesurf on Sat May 6 10:29:31 2023
    On 05/05/2023 10:31, Jim Lesurf wrote:
    In article <kbhb58FeocoU1@mid.individual.net>, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:
    Jim Lesurf wrote:

    By using get-iplayer people could fetch/watch UHD via first
    downloading the material as a file. If they have a slow connection,
    do it at night - when the fetching might be faster, but if not, still
    done by the time they want to watch it

    Yes I did start thinking of get-iplayer last night, since neither
    iPlayer on the LG or chromecast can handle 4K streaming, and on a PC, 4K
    isn't allowed.

    FWIW I normally fetch the quasi-HD versions. They aren't full HD but fairly similar. Here an hour's worth of programme takes about 3 - 5 mins to fetch. So I guess UHD 'live' might be practical. However our TV/display is
    standard HD and we're happy enough with that.

    Surprised that UHD isn't "allowed" on a "PC". Is that a 'doze deliberate limit? I use Linux so am unaware of how doze may limit.

    Jim



    the PC does need to be UHD capable to view UHD content so you'd be
    looking at a 4k graphics card for a starter plus some additional
    drivers.... and sufficient memory and CPU and probably a SSD instead of
    a HDD.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 6 11:56:27 2023
    SH wrote:

    Jim Lesurf wrote:

    Surprised that UHD isn't "allowed" on a "PC". Is that a 'doze deliberate
    limit? I use Linux so am unaware of how doze may limit.

    the PC does need to be UHD capable to view UHD content so you'd be
    looking at a 4k graphics card for a starter plus some additional
    drivers.... and sufficient memory and CPU and probably a SSD instead of
    a HDD.

    Dual intel Xe/nvidia 3050 graphics
    12th gen i7 CPU with 14 cores
    32GB RAM
    1TB NVMe SSD
    Wired 2.5 Gbps ethernet
    LG 4K@60Hz 10-bit HDR monitor via 40 Mbps thunderbolt4

    I think it would be "unreasonable" to expect higher spec than that just
    to watch telly!

    Normally the display is set to 125% scaling for the sake of my eyes, but
    I reset it to 100% for testing, in full-screen mode iPlayer used
    1280x720p and looked pretty awful at arms length.

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  • From Robin@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Sat May 6 14:25:03 2023
    On 06/05/2023 11:56, Andy Burns wrote:
    SH wrote:

    Jim Lesurf wrote:

    Surprised that UHD isn't "allowed" on a "PC". Is that a 'doze deliberate >>> limit? I use Linux so am unaware of how doze may limit.

    the PC does need to be UHD capable to view UHD content so you'd be
    looking at a 4k graphics card for a starter plus some additional
    drivers.... and sufficient memory and CPU and probably a SSD instead
    of a HDD.

    Dual intel Xe/nvidia 3050 graphics
    12th gen i7 CPU with 14 cores
    32GB RAM
    1TB NVMe SSD
    Wired 2.5 Gbps ethernet
    LG 4K@60Hz 10-bit HDR monitor via 40 Mbps thunderbolt4

    I think it would be "unreasonable" to expect higher spec than that just
    to watch telly!

    Normally the display is set to 125% scaling for the sake of my eyes, but
    I reset it to 100% for testing, in full-screen mode iPlayer used
    1280x720p and looked pretty awful at arms length.

    what do you get in VLC if you open the below as a network stream in VLC?

    https://ve-uhd-push-uk-live.akamaized.net/x=3/i=urn:bbc:pips:service:uhd_stream_01/iptv_uhd_v1.mpd
    --
    Robin
    reply-to address is (intended to be) valid

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to Robin on Sat May 6 15:44:53 2023
    On 06/05/2023 14:25, Robin wrote:
    On 06/05/2023 11:56, Andy Burns wrote:
    SH wrote:

    Jim Lesurf wrote:

    Surprised that UHD isn't "allowed" on a "PC". Is that a 'doze
    deliberate
    limit? I use Linux so am unaware of how doze may limit.

    the PC does need to be UHD capable to view UHD content so you'd be
    looking at a 4k graphics card for a starter plus some additional
    drivers.... and sufficient memory and CPU and probably a SSD instead
    of a HDD.

    Dual intel Xe/nvidia 3050 graphics
    12th gen i7 CPU with 14 cores
    32GB RAM
    1TB NVMe SSD
    Wired 2.5 Gbps ethernet
    LG 4K@60Hz 10-bit HDR monitor via 40 Mbps thunderbolt4

    I think it would be "unreasonable" to expect higher spec than that
    just to watch telly!

    Normally the display is set to 125% scaling for the sake of my eyes,
    but I reset it to 100% for testing, in full-screen mode iPlayer used
    1280x720p and looked pretty awful at arms length.

    what do you get in VLC if you open the below as a network stream in VLC?

    https://ve-uhd-push-uk-live.akamaized.net/x=3/i=urn:bbc:pips:service:uhd_stream_01/iptv_uhd_v1.mpd


    a black screen in VLC but I can view that 4K video of Puerto Rica off Youtube....

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  • From SH@21:1/5 to All on Sat May 6 15:46:48 2023
    On 06/05/2023 15:44, SH wrote:
    On 06/05/2023 14:25, Robin wrote:
    On 06/05/2023 11:56, Andy Burns wrote:
    SH wrote:

    Jim Lesurf wrote:

    Surprised that UHD isn't "allowed" on a "PC". Is that a 'doze
    deliberate
    limit? I use Linux so am unaware of how doze may limit.

    the PC does need to be UHD capable to view UHD content so you'd be
    looking at a 4k graphics card for a starter plus some additional
    drivers.... and sufficient memory and CPU and probably a SSD instead
    of a HDD.

    Dual intel Xe/nvidia 3050 graphics
    12th gen i7 CPU with 14 cores
    32GB RAM
    1TB NVMe SSD
    Wired 2.5 Gbps ethernet
    LG 4K@60Hz 10-bit HDR monitor via 40 Mbps thunderbolt4

    I think it would be "unreasonable" to expect higher spec than that
    just to watch telly!

    Normally the display is set to 125% scaling for the sake of my eyes,
    but I reset it to 100% for testing, in full-screen mode iPlayer used
    1280x720p and looked pretty awful at arms length.

    what do you get in VLC if you open the below as a network stream in VLC?

    https://ve-uhd-push-uk-live.akamaized.net/x=3/i=urn:bbc:pips:service:uhd_stream_01/iptv_uhd_v1.mpd


    a black screen in VLC but I can view that 4K video of Puerto Rica off Youtube....


    I meant Costa Rica, not Puerto Rica!

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