We have a Humax HDR-2000T, bought 2019.I've read that you can get round a tuning issue by disconnecting the
A few weeks ago, I retuned it, because 2 or 3 of the usual channels we
use had shifted to other numbers and also we were missing a couple of
new channels.
Ever since then, the simple version of the bog-standard channels (BBC1,
BBC2, ITV, etc.) (i.e., elect 1, 2, 3 ... on the PVR Remote) have been breaking up, and we have to select the HD versions (101, 102, etc.)
I have re-tuned it a couple of times, but the problem hasn't gone away.
Could this be related to the forthcoming delivery of more HD channels?
What's the best way forward for me, please?
I'm in no way a techie person (as per the majority of venerable members
of this group). Nonetheless I read it because I often pick up
invaluable hints.
The two ways forward I've thought of are: (1) sit tight until after
they've finished the delivery of HD or (2) monkey about with the PVR to define "favourite" channels -- something we've never had to do before.
In other words: don't seek to improve what has been corrupted (Channels 1,2,3...)
We are Freeview users via antenna; we're in the Tyne Valley and have
direct "sight" of Pontop Pike. There are closer "repeaters"(?)), but I
really don't fancy climbing into the loft and buggering about with
optimum direction finding!
Any thoughts much appreciated!
We have a Humax HDR-2000T, bought 2019.I've solved this by removing the aerial lead, running an auto-tune
A few weeks ago, I retuned it, because 2 or 3 of the usual channels we
use had shifted to other numbers and also we were missing a couple of
new channels.
Ever since then, the simple version of the bog-standard channels (BBC1,
BBC2, ITV, etc.) (i.e., elect 1, 2, 3 ... on the PVR Remote) have been breaking up, and we have to select the HD versions (101, 102, etc.)
I have re-tuned it a couple of times, but the problem hasn't gone away.
Could this be related to the forthcoming delivery of more HD channels?
What's the best way forward for me, please?
I'm in no way a techie person (as per the majority of venerable members
of this group). Nonetheless I read it because I often pick up
invaluable hints.
The two ways forward I've thought of are: (1) sit tight until after
they've finished the delivery of HD or (2) monkey about with the PVR to define "favourite" channels -- something we've never had to do before.
In other words: don't seek to improve what has been corrupted (Channels 1,2,3...)
We are Freeview users via antenna; we're in the Tyne Valley and have
direct "sight" of Pontop Pike. There are closer "repeaters"(?)), but I
really don't fancy climbing into the loft and buggering about with
optimum direction finding!
Any thoughts much appreciated!
John
We have a Humax HDR-2000T, bought 2019.
A few weeks ago, I retuned it, because 2 or 3 of the usual channels we
use had shifted to other numbers and also we were missing a couple of
new channels.
Ever since then, the simple version of the bog-standard channels (BBC1,
BBC2, ITV, etc.) (i.e., elect 1, 2, 3 ... on the PVR Remote) have been breaking up, and we have to select the HD versions (101, 102, etc.)
I have re-tuned it a couple of times, but the problem hasn't gone away.
Could this be related to the forthcoming delivery of more HD channels?
What's the best way forward for me, please?
I'm in no way a techie person (as per the majority of venerable members
of this group). Nonetheless I read it because I often pick up
invaluable hints.
The two ways forward I've thought of are: (1) sit tight until after
they've finished the delivery of HD or (2) monkey about with the PVR to define "favourite" channels -- something we've never had to do before.
In other words: don't seek to improve what has been corrupted (Channels 1,2,3...)
We are Freeview users via antenna; we're in the Tyne Valley and have
direct "sight" of Pontop Pike. There are closer "repeaters"(?)), but I
really don't fancy climbing into the loft and buggering about with
optimum direction finding!
Any thoughts much appreciated!
John
On Thu 06/04/2023 12:33, Another John wrote:
We have a Humax HDR-2000T, bought 2019.
A few weeks ago, I retuned it, because 2 or 3 of the usual channels we
use had shifted to other numbers and also we were missing a couple of
new channels.
Ever since then, the simple version of the bog-standard channels (BBC1,
BBC2, ITV, etc.) (i.e., elect 1, 2, 3 ... on the PVR Remote) have been
breaking up, and we have to select the HD versions (101, 102, etc.)
I have re-tuned it a couple of times, but the problem hasn't gone away.
Could this be related to the forthcoming delivery of more HD channels?
What's the best way forward for me, please?
I'm in no way a techie person (as per the majority of venerable members
of this group). Nonetheless I read it because I often pick up
invaluable hints.
The two ways forward I've thought of are: (1) sit tight until after
they've finished the delivery of HD or (2) monkey about with the PVR to
define "favourite" channels -- something we've never had to do before.
In other words: don't seek to improve what has been corrupted (Channels
1,2,3...)
We are Freeview users via antenna; we're in the Tyne Valley and have
direct "sight" of Pontop Pike. There are closer "repeaters"(?)), but I
really don't fancy climbing into the loft and buggering about with
optimum direction finding!
Any thoughts much appreciated!
John
The likelihood is that you are in an a transmitter overlap area - or due
to atmospheric conditions you are in an overlap area that doesn't
usually exist - and your box has chosen the overlap signal rather than
your normal source.
As Jeff has said disconnect the aerial and start an autotune. After
maybe 15 seconds stop the tune - this will have been long enough to wipe
the autotune memory.
Go on line and search for 'UK TV frequencies {station name}' where
station name is your usual transmitter. One of the offers will be
ukfree.tv with your transmitter name on the end. Select this and look at
the channel in use for the six muxes (plus the local channel if you have
one) - write them down.
Go back to your box, reconnect the aerial, and find the manual tuning
option in the set up. Then tune each of the channels you have written
down and save the result. When finished you should have perfect
reception on every station.
To avoid confusion:-
Channel means the transmitter frequency that carries the signals you
want to receive - they will be in the range 21-48. There will be three
on a relay transmitter (labelled PSB1-3) and six on a main station
(labelled PSB1-3 and Com4-6 plus LTV if there is one in your area.)
Station is the programme that you watch such as BBC2, Sky Arts, 5USA etc.
If you need more help come back here and tell us the name of the
transmitter you are using.
On 06/04/2023 12:33, Another John wrote:
We have a Humax HDR-2000T, bought 2019.I've read that you can get round a tuning issue by disconnecting the aerial and retuning. This clears out the "tuned channels" memory completely. Then reconnect the aerial and retune as normal.
A few weeks ago, I retuned it, because 2 or 3 of the usual channels we
use had shifted to other numbers and also we were missing a couple of
new channels.
Ever since then, the simple version of the bog-standard channels (BBC1,
BBC2, ITV, etc.) (i.e., elect 1, 2, 3 ... on the PVR Remote) have been
breaking up, and we have to select the HD versions (101, 102, etc.)
I have re-tuned it a couple of times, but the problem hasn't gone away.
Could this be related to the forthcoming delivery of more HD channels?
What's the best way forward for me, please?
I'm in no way a techie person (as per the majority of venerable members
of this group). Nonetheless I read it because I often pick up
invaluable hints.
The two ways forward I've thought of are: (1) sit tight until after
they've finished the delivery of HD or (2) monkey about with the PVR to
define "favourite" channels -- something we've never had to do before.
In other words: don't seek to improve what has been corrupted (Channels
1,2,3...)
We are Freeview users via antenna; we're in the Tyne Valley and have
direct "sight" of Pontop Pike. There are closer "repeaters"(?)), but I
really don't fancy climbing into the loft and buggering about with
optimum direction finding!
Any thoughts much appreciated!
On 06/04/2023 14:08, Woody wrote:
On Thu 06/04/2023 12:33, Another John wrote:All the advice so far is correct but I would be inclined to try a normal autotune first to see if that fixes the problem. If not you can go
We have a Humax HDR-2000T, bought 2019.
A few weeks ago, I retuned it, because 2 or 3 of the usual channels we
use had shifted to other numbers and also we were missing a couple of
new channels.
Ever since then, the simple version of the bog-standard channels (BBC1,
BBC2, ITV, etc.) (i.e., elect 1, 2, 3 ... on the PVR Remote) have been
breaking up, and we have to select the HD versions (101, 102, etc.)
I have re-tuned it a couple of times, but the problem hasn't gone away.
Could this be related to the forthcoming delivery of more HD channels?
What's the best way forward for me, please?
I'm in no way a techie person (as per the majority of venerable members
of this group). Nonetheless I read it because I often pick up
invaluable hints.
The two ways forward I've thought of are: (1) sit tight until after
they've finished the delivery of HD or (2) monkey about with the PVR to
define "favourite" channels -- something we've never had to do before.
In other words: don't seek to improve what has been corrupted (Channels
1,2,3...)
We are Freeview users via antenna; we're in the Tyne Valley and have
direct "sight" of Pontop Pike. There are closer "repeaters"(?)), but I
really don't fancy climbing into the loft and buggering about with
optimum direction finding!
Any thoughts much appreciated!
John
The likelihood is that you are in an a transmitter overlap area - or
due to atmospheric conditions you are in an overlap area that doesn't
usually exist - and your box has chosen the overlap signal rather than
your normal source.
As Jeff has said disconnect the aerial and start an autotune. After
maybe 15 seconds stop the tune - this will have been long enough to
wipe the autotune memory.
Go on line and search for 'UK TV frequencies {station name}' where
station name is your usual transmitter. One of the offers will be
ukfree.tv with your transmitter name on the end. Select this and look
at the channel in use for the six muxes (plus the local channel if you
have one) - write them down.
Go back to your box, reconnect the aerial, and find the manual tuning
option in the set up. Then tune each of the channels you have written
down and save the result. When finished you should have perfect
reception on every station.
To avoid confusion:-
Channel means the transmitter frequency that carries the signals you
want to receive - they will be in the range 21-48. There will be three
on a relay transmitter (labelled PSB1-3) and six on a main station
(labelled PSB1-3 and Com4-6 plus LTV if there is one in your area.)
Station is the programme that you watch such as BBC2, Sky Arts, 5USA etc.
If you need more help come back here and tell us the name of the
transmitter you are using.
through the laborious manual tuning for Pontop Pike which you say is in direct sight.
After scanning for channels completely remove the in-line attenuator.
We have a Humax HDR-2000T, bought 2019.Go to 'installation' and do a factory reset. Ideally do it with a 12dB attenuator on the aerial lead. A simple retune won't necessarily work.
A few weeks ago, I retuned it, because 2 or 3 of the usual channels we
use had shifted to other numbers and also we were missing a couple of
new channels.
Ever since then, the simple version of the bog-standard channels (BBC1,
BBC2, ITV, etc.) (i.e., elect 1, 2, 3 ... on the PVR Remote) have been breaking up, and we have to select the HD versions (101, 102, etc.)
I have re-tuned it a couple of times, but the problem hasn't gone away.
Could this be related to the forthcoming delivery of more HD channels?
What's the best way forward for me, please?
I'm in no way a techie person (as per the majority of venerable members
of this group). Nonetheless I read it because I often pick up
invaluable hints.
The two ways forward I've thought of are: (1) sit tight until after
they've finished the delivery of HD or (2) monkey about with the PVR to define "favourite" channels -- something we've never had to do before.
In other words: don't seek to improve what has been corrupted (Channels 1,2,3...)
We are Freeview users via antenna; we're in the Tyne Valley and have
direct "sight" of Pontop Pike. There are closer "repeaters"(?)), but I
really don't fancy climbing into the loft and buggering about with
optimum direction finding!
Any thoughts much appreciated!
John
On 06/04/2023 12:33, Another John wrote:
We have a Humax HDR-2000T, bought 2019.I've read that you can get round a tuning issue by disconnecting the
A few weeks ago, I retuned it, because 2 or 3 of the usual channels we
use had shifted to other numbers and also we were missing a couple of
new channels.
Ever since then, the simple version of the bog-standard channels (BBC1,
BBC2, ITV, etc.) (i.e., elect 1, 2, 3 ... on the PVR Remote) have been
breaking up, and we have to select the HD versions (101, 102, etc.)
I have re-tuned it a couple of times, but the problem hasn't gone away.
Could this be related to the forthcoming delivery of more HD channels?
What's the best way forward for me, please?
I'm in no way a techie person (as per the majority of venerable members
of this group). Nonetheless I read it because I often pick up
invaluable hints.
The two ways forward I've thought of are: (1) sit tight until after
they've finished the delivery of HD or (2) monkey about with the PVR to
define "favourite" channels -- something we've never had to do before.
In other words: don't seek to improve what has been corrupted (Channels
1,2,3...)
We are Freeview users via antenna; we're in the Tyne Valley and have
direct "sight" of Pontop Pike. There are closer "repeaters"(?)), but I
really don't fancy climbing into the loft and buggering about with
optimum direction finding!
Any thoughts much appreciated!
aerial and retuning. This clears out the "tuned channels" memory
completely. Then reconnect the aerial and retune as normal.
--
Jeff
On Thursday, 6 April 2023 at 12:33:24 UTC+1, Another John wrote:
We have a Humax HDR-2000T, bought 2019.Go to 'installation' and do a factory reset. Ideally do it with a 12dB attenuator on the aerial lead. A simple retune won't necessarily work.
A few weeks ago, I retuned it, because 2 or 3 of the usual channels we
use had shifted to other numbers and also we were missing a couple of
new channels.
Ever since then, the simple version of the bog-standard channels (BBC1,
BBC2, ITV, etc.) (i.e., elect 1, 2, 3 ... on the PVR Remote) have been
breaking up, and we have to select the HD versions (101, 102, etc.)
I have re-tuned it a couple of times, but the problem hasn't gone away.
Could this be related to the forthcoming delivery of more HD channels?
What's the best way forward for me, please?
I'm in no way a techie person (as per the majority of venerable members
of this group). Nonetheless I read it because I often pick up
invaluable hints.
The two ways forward I've thought of are: (1) sit tight until after
they've finished the delivery of HD or (2) monkey about with the PVR to
define "favourite" channels -- something we've never had to do before.
In other words: don't seek to improve what has been corrupted (Channels
1,2,3...)
We are Freeview users via antenna; we're in the Tyne Valley and have
direct "sight" of Pontop Pike. There are closer "repeaters"(?)), but I
really don't fancy climbing into the loft and buggering about with
optimum direction finding!
Any thoughts much appreciated!
John
Bill
Yes I did it with a 6db one on my Samsung, but its a real shame that
along with all the other data they shove out there is not an accurate
list of channels associated with existing transmitters which could then
be put into the set and it would go there.
Occurs to me to mention that:
I'm now using a USB DVB-T2 'dongle' to capture recordings with a Linux laptop. Using VLC you can choose the transmission (nominal) frequency, so decide which muxes/txs are best for a given 'station'.
FWIW I wrote a set of executable files, one per 'station'. So I can start receiving by clicking on the one with the relevant name. Then click the 'record' button on VLC. [1]
Not managed to get timed auto-recording working yet, though. Tried the
"at"
command, but haven't twigged how to make this work as wished as yet.[1]
But
the above is still handy for making 'as-per-rxed-data' recordings. Though
I
tend to run them though ffmpeg to clear out the cruft.
[1] If you just give VLC the mux frequency you can then use it to find out the numbers for each 'station' on the mux for when you want to specify
one.
[2] When I try using "at" to start up VLC and record, nowt occurs. Must be doing something wrong, but not twigged it yet.
Have you thought of installing TVHeadend and using that to list the EPG, schedule recordings from the EPG and then perform the actual recording?
I can use the UI of VLC to tune to a given multiplex (either terrestrial
or satellite, depending on which USB DVB-T or DVB-S tuner I select) and
then select the channel in the Playback | Programme menu. I've never investigated controlling VLC automatically with command-line options
started with "cron" or "at" commands.
In article <u0piev$st0t$1@dont-email.me>, NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:
Have you thought of installing TVHeadend and using that to list the EPG,
schedule recordings from the EPG and then perform the actual recording?
IIRC I did look at Headend but decided it was too invasive and "my way or highway". May be thinking of something else. Prefer simple one-thing-at-a-time methods.
I can use the UI of VLC to tune to a given multiplex (either terrestrial
or satellite, depending on which USB DVB-T or DVB-S tuner I select) and
then select the channel in the Playback | Programme menu. I've never
investigated controlling VLC automatically with command-line options
started with "cron" or "at" commands.
Once you know the IDs of the channels and the MUX frequency it is easy to either have a set of files, each containing the command to start VLC
getting one, or a prog that issues that command. The brick-wall I hit was having this work via a timed command to start unattended. I was told "at" would do it, but couldn't get it to.
Using ROX-Filer I just click on a suitably named file and it executes the content - in this case starts up VLC getting the relevant 'station'. Being able to time/automate this would be handy. But I've been too busy with
other things, alas. My main task these days s 24/7 carer. Not programming
or writing.
Jim
I've solved this by removing the aerial lead, running an auto-tune
cycle, reconnecting the lead and then manual tuning using the channel
info for the mast that my aerial is pointing it. I did it again last
week because things changed on the local mast.
On 08/04/2023 10:57, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article <u0piev$st0t$1@dont-email.me>, NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:I wrote a Windows executable which uses VLC to schedule timed TV
Have you thought of installing TVHeadend and using that to list the EPG, >>> schedule recordings from the EPG and then perform the actual recording?
IIRC I did look at Headend but decided it was too invasive and "my way or
highway". May be thinking of something else. Prefer simple
one-thing-at-a-time methods.
I can use the UI of VLC to tune to a given multiplex (either terrestrial >>> or satellite, depending on which USB DVB-T or DVB-S tuner I select) and
then select the channel in the Playback | Programme menu. I've never
investigated controlling VLC automatically with command-line options
started with "cron" or "at" commands.
Once you know the IDs of the channels and the MUX frequency it is easy to
either have a set of files, each containing the command to start VLC
getting one, or a prog that issues that command. The brick-wall I hit was
having this work via a timed command to start unattended. I was told "at"
would do it, but couldn't get it to.
Using ROX-Filer I just click on a suitably named file and it executes the
content - in this case starts up VLC getting the relevant 'station'.
Being
able to time/automate this would be handy. But I've been too busy with
other things, alas. My main task these days s 24/7 carer. Not programming
or writing.
Jim
recordings but could not find a VLC command line to do that directly.
Instead my program generates a batch file to run VLC and sets a Task (for Windows Task Scheduler) to run the batch file at the correct time. The
batch file deletes the Task and itself on completion. It must be possible
to use a similar approach with Linux.
I also create my own XML EPG on the PC so the above will schedule a
recording directly from the EPG - but that's another story.
On 06/04/2023 13:55, nothanks@aolbin.com wrote:
I've solved this by removing the aerial lead, running an auto-tune
cycle, reconnecting the lead and then manual tuning using the channel
info for the mast that my aerial is pointing it. I did it again last
week because things changed on the local mast.
Yes. That pretty much guarantees you get the correct result.
It's rather tedious though.
Blimey, when did watching the telly become aphd subject?
Brian
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On 08/04/2023 10:57, Jim Lesurf wrote:
In article <u0piev$st0t$1@dont-email.me>, NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote: >>>I wrote a Windows executable which uses VLC to schedule timed TV
Have you thought of installing TVHeadend and using that to list theIIRC I did look at Headend but decided it was too invasive and "my way
EPG,
schedule recordings from the EPG and then perform the actual recording? >>>
or
highway". May be thinking of something else. Prefer simple
one-thing-at-a-time methods.
I can use the UI of VLC to tune to a given multiplex (either
terrestrial
or satellite, depending on which USB DVB-T or DVB-S tuner I select) and >>>> then select the channel in the Playback | Programme menu. I've never
investigated controlling VLC automatically with command-line options
started with "cron" or "at" commands.
Once you know the IDs of the channels and the MUX frequency it is easy
to
either have a set of files, each containing the command to start VLC
getting one, or a prog that issues that command. The brick-wall I hit
was
having this work via a timed command to start unattended. I was told
"at"
would do it, but couldn't get it to.
Using ROX-Filer I just click on a suitably named file and it executes
the
content - in this case starts up VLC getting the relevant 'station'.
Being
able to time/automate this would be handy. But I've been too busy with
other things, alas. My main task these days s 24/7 carer. Not
programming
or writing.
Jim
recordings but could not find a VLC command line to do that directly.
Instead my program generates a batch file to run VLC and sets a Task (for
Windows Task Scheduler) to run the batch file at the correct time. The
batch file deletes the Task and itself on completion. It must be possible
to use a similar approach with Linux.
I also create my own XML EPG on the PC so the above will schedule a
recording directly from the EPG - but that's another story.
Blimey, when did watching the telly become aphd subject?
Brian
I wrote a Windows executable which uses VLC to schedule timed TV
recordings but could not find a VLC command line to do that directly.
Instead my program generates a batch file to run VLC and sets a Task
(for Windows Task Scheduler) to run the batch file at the correct time.
The batch file deletes the Task and itself on completion. It must be
possible to use a similar approach with Linux.
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