According to https://rxtvinfo.com/2023/when-bbc-one-hd-isnt-hd/, BBC One
in the regions switches over from national to local a few minutes before
the start of the regional programmes. This means that regions which are
still broadcasting their regional new in SD, the switchover occurs in
the final minutes of the preceding programme. I'd thought that the
national weather forecast at the end of the 6 PM national news was
looking a bit soft: that will explain it.
Why does the switchover have to happen early? In the 21st century, why
can't the switchover happen precisely on the first frame of the regional news, ie the first one that isn't from the national service?
I'm leaving aside discussion of why some regions are still SD: that will
come in due course, and the first priority was to get a local news
programme *at all* on a region's BBC One HD (PSB3), even if in the short
term it is SD.
According to https://rxtvinfo.com/2023/when-bbc-one-hd-isnt-hd/, BBC
One in the regions switches over from national to local a few minutes
before the start of the regional programmes. This means that regions
which are still broadcasting their regional new in SD, the switchover
occurs in the final minutes of the preceding programme. I'd thought
that the national weather forecast at the end of the 6 PM national
news was looking a bit soft: that will explain it.
Why does the switchover have to happen early? In the 21st century, why
can't the switchover happen precisely on the first frame of the
regional news, ie the first one that isn't from the national service?
However all of this last week BBC Leeds has been welcoming viewers in
the North East and Cumbria. Is this so that Newcastle has space to get
the changes done before the change on 26th April, or is it because of
the upcoming strikes?
According to https://rxtvinfo.com/2023/when-bbc-one-hd-isnt-hd/, BBC One
in the regions switches over from national to local a few minutes before
the start of the regional programmes. This means that regions which are
still broadcasting their regional new in SD, the switchover occurs in the final minutes of the preceding programme. I'd thought that the national weather forecast at the end of the 6 PM national news was looking a bit
soft: that will explain it.
Why does the switchover have to happen early? In the 21st century, why
can't the switchover happen precisely on the first frame of the regional news, ie the first one that isn't from the national service?
I'm leaving aside discussion of why some regions are still SD: that will
come in due course, and the first priority was to get a local news
programme *at all* on a region's BBC One HD (PSB3), even if in the short
term it is SD.
On 31/03/2023 21:21, NY wrote:Back in the day, one reason was to ensure the kit did actually switch
According to https://rxtvinfo.com/2023/when-bbc-one-hd-isnt-hd/, BBCYes, soft opt, and hard opt. The soft opt is the point where the local
One in the regions switches over from national to local a few minutes
before the start of the regional programmes. This means that regions
which are still broadcasting their regional new in SD, the switchover
occurs in the final minutes of the preceding programme. I'd thought
that the national weather forecast at the end of the 6 PM national
news was looking a bit soft: that will explain it.
Why does the switchover have to happen early? In the 21st century, why
can't the switchover happen precisely on the first frame of the
regional news, ie the first one that isn't from the national service?
studio routes network BBC 1 though their vision mixer, so obviously for
SD regions, this is the moment the network pictures drop down to
upscaled SD. It didn't matter when everything was SD, and it won't
matter when everything is HD, but it matters now with the mixed currency
in most regions !
The reason it's done is to allow a smoother transition in and out of
network, and cross fading (though that's rarely used in most regions
I've seen). It's arguable considering the 'SD drop' whether there's
value, but there might be good gallery workflow reasons for it ?
AIUI there is no reason now with digital centralised Coding & Mux for an instant opt. Though there is still some professionism with whoever
replaced TMs testing the opt. CCM can hardly be expected to sort out any problems with several regions noe fed through them.
Who knows. Archaic infrastructure probably. I've even notified pregnant pauses on some radio stations as some programs end a bit early.
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Who knows. Archaic infrastructure probably. I've even notified pregnant
pauses on some radio stations as some programs end a bit early.
Do BBC Radio programmes on BBC Sounds still start a bit early and end a bit late, according to when someone presses a button on a mixing desk to start/end the WAV file (other formats are available!) that is put on BBC Sounds? You'd think the workflow would be to prepare the internet version in advance by converting from the studio master, and to make it visible at the required time (eg just after the broadcast). But they seem to use the
version that is broadcast, so you get the end of previous programme, the continuity and the start of the following programme. That is beyond amateurish. It's a while since I've listened to BBC Sounds, because I now tend to record off air (via Freeview), using the same recording technology
as for TV programmes.
Obviously live programmes are a different matter, but I'm talking about programmes that are pre-recorded.
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Who knows. Archaic infrastructure probably. I've even notified pregnant
pauses on some radio stations as some programs end a bit early.
Do BBC Radio programmes on BBC Sounds still start a bit early and end a
bit
late, according to when someone presses a button on a mixing desk to
start/end the WAV file (other formats are available!) that is put on BBC
Sounds? You'd think the workflow would be to prepare the internet version
in
advance by converting from the studio master, and to make it visible at
the
required time (eg just after the broadcast). But they seem to use the
version that is broadcast, so you get the end of previous programme, the
continuity and the start of the following programme. That is beyond
amateurish. It's a while since I've listened to BBC Sounds, because I now
tend to record off air (via Freeview), using the same recording
technology
as for TV programmes.
Obviously live programmes are a different matter, but I'm talking about
programmes that are pre-recorded.
I’ve just listened to a couple Radio 4 programmes via Sounds, and neither started early.
According to https://rxtvinfo.com/2023/when-bbc-one-hd-isnt-hd/, BBC One
in the regions switches over from national to local a few minutes before
the start of the regional programmes. This means that regions which are
still broadcasting their regional new in SD, the switchover occurs in
the final minutes of the preceding programme. I'd thought that the
national weather forecast at the end of the 6 PM national news was
looking a bit soft: that will explain it.
Why does the switchover have to happen early? In the 21st century, why
can't the switchover happen precisely on the first frame of the regional news, ie the first one that isn't from the national service?
I'm leaving aside discussion of why some regions are still SD: that will
come in due course, and the first priority was to get a local news
programme *at all* on a region's BBC One HD (PSB3), even if in the short
term it is SD.
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