• Grace S2 Eps

    From pinnerite@21:1/5 to All on Mon Mar 20 22:17:52 2023
    I recorded the episode broadcast at 21:00 on Thursday March 16.

    When I tried to play it back tonight, there was sound but no picture.

    Has anyone else experienced anything similar?

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 22 13:50:53 2023
    "pinnerite" <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote in message news:20230320221752.0e12b0e50a49ab4a56d72409@gmail.com...
    I recorded the episode broadcast at 21:00 on Thursday March 16.

    When I tried to play it back tonight, there was sound but no picture.

    Has anyone else experienced anything similar?

    It worked fine for me. I recorded in HD from satellite. Have you tried rebooting the PVR and the TV in case of HDMI communications problems?

    I have noticed a few problems with ITV on HD. I record using TVHeadend on a Raspberry Pi, so I have access to the .ts recording file. I use a package called VideoRedo to edit out continuity and commercials, and I've notice for several recordings (all three episodes of Endeavour, and the episode of
    Grace that you refer to) the latest version of VideoRedo can only see one soundtrack (the AD one) and does not detect the main programme sound and so does not pass it to the edited version of the recording. The same version of the software is fine with HD recordings from other channels. That suggests
    that there may be something slightly non-standard with the audio and video streams on ITV HD. I think all the recordings were from satellite rather
    than terrestrial. Fortunately an older version of the programme worked fine.

    Sadly VideoRedo is no longer supported or maintained, following the
    unexpected death of the company's owner who did not leave the company in a
    way that the senior developer could take it over so it's folded. I only
    found that out when I reported the error.

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  • From Mark Undrill@21:1/5 to All on Wed Mar 22 15:08:54 2023
    On 22/03/2023 13:50, NY wrote:
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    Sadly VideoRedo is no longer supported or maintained, following the unexpected death of the company's owner who did not leave the company in a way that the senior developer could take it over so it's folded. I only
    found that out when I reported the error.

    That's sad to hear.Thanks for the heads-up.

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Mark Undrill on Thu Mar 23 00:13:03 2023
    On 22/03/2023 15:08, Mark Undrill wrote:
    On 22/03/2023 13:50, NY wrote:
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    Sadly VideoRedo is no longer supported or maintained, following the
    unexpected death of the company's owner who did not leave the company
    in a
    way that the senior developer could take it over so it's folded. I only
    found that out when I reported the error.

    That's sad to hear.Thanks for the heads-up.

    There is a *potential* problem that even people who have bought licences
    (as I have) may one day find that the programme stops working because it
    is programmed to "phone home" every year, and if the money to run the
    licensing server stops being paid (and his widow may choose not to keep
    paying) the software may (or may not) die - the effect is unknown
    because apparently that bit of code was designed to be deliberately
    obscure to stop hackers...

    The chief developer, who now works for another company, has said that he
    will try his best to set up a replacement licensing server if the real
    one dies.

    VRD is a damn good program. I use it all the time to edit out the crap
    (sorry, "continuity announcements, trailers and adverts") from
    recordings I want to keep. I've not come across any other programme that
    is as easy to use or does such a good job.

    The problem with editing MPEG and H264 is that the inter-frame
    compression means that some "key" frames are presented in their entirety (subject to still-frame JPEG-type compression) but then there is a
    sequence of "difference frames" which only describe differences between
    the current frame and the most recent full (key) frame. If you just chop
    the video in the middle of a run of difference frames and then restart
    in the middle of another run of difference frames, all those second
    difference frames will be calculated with respect to a key frame that is
    not there, so you get a few frames of ghost image and picture break up.
    That's what a lot of video cut-and-shut programs to. VRD creates a brand
    new key frame at the start of the new sequence (after your cut) by
    adding its key frame (which you have chosen to cut out) to the first
    difference frame, and then calculating new difference frames from that synthesised one up to the next key frame in the original video. That is
    how you get clean edits with no glitching. You see it reported as
    "Processing frame 1/15" etc on the progress dialogue box, especially
    when working on HD programmes: H264 compression is a lot more "tangled"
    and interdependent than MPEG so needs longer (slower) work to smooth
    over the cuts.

    I suppose the nearest equivalent in a film-editing analogy is the
    difference between joining bits of film with adhesive tape over the
    bottom of one frame and the top of the next one (*), and doing it
    properly with A/B rolls of film which are printed in succession onto the
    same positive to hide the splices.


    (*) If you watch some of the Southern TV children's programmes from the
    1970s (eg Freewheelers) on Talking Pictures TV you can see a glitch at
    each edit-point in the film inserts because they did it the cheaper way
    - hey, it's "only television".

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  • From pinnerite@21:1/5 to me@privacy.invalid on Sat Mar 25 21:15:07 2023
    On Wed, 22 Mar 2023 13:50:53 -0000
    "NY" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

    "pinnerite" <pinnerite@gmail.com> wrote in message news:20230320221752.0e12b0e50a49ab4a56d72409@gmail.com...
    I recorded the episode broadcast at 21:00 on Thursday March 16.

    When I tried to play it back tonight, there was sound but no picture.

    Has anyone else experienced anything similar?

    It worked fine for me. I recorded in HD from satellite. Have you tried rebooting the PVR and the TV in case of HDMI communications problems?

    I have noticed a few problems with ITV on HD. I record using TVHeadend on a Raspberry Pi, so I have access to the .ts recording file. I use a package called VideoRedo to edit out continuity and commercials, and I've notice for several recordings (all three episodes of Endeavour, and the episode of
    Grace that you refer to) the latest version of VideoRedo can only see one soundtrack (the AD one) and does not detect the main programme sound and so does not pass it to the edited version of the recording. The same version of the software is fine with HD recordings from other channels. That suggests that there may be something slightly non-standard with the audio and video streams on ITV HD. I think all the recordings were from satellite rather
    than terrestrial. Fortunately an older version of the programme worked fine.

    Sadly VideoRedo is no longer supported or maintained, following the unexpected death of the company's owner who did not leave the company in a way that the senior developer could take it over so it's folded. I only
    found that out when I reported the error.


    I ticked the DRM box on Firefox settings and streamed it.

    Alan

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