I tried to set up the Panasonic Freeview PVR to record the film "The Negotiator" tonight on 5 Action (Ch33). The PVR reported a programme
clash, which puzzled me as I had nothing else set to record at that time.

The Radio Times shows the film starting at 23:25 and ending at 01:35,
but the EPG shows it starting at 23:10, and ending at 01:25. When I
checked with the PVR as what the clash was, it said it was for this
coming Friday at 21:00 - 22:00 (I have two programmes set up to record
at that time)! I wondered if there was a repeat of the film at that time
on Friday, but there wasn't.

Can someone else check this with their PVR? You might have to set up two "dummy" programmes to record first on Friday at 21:00 - 22:00 before
trying to add the film tonight.

I'll have to set up a manual recording for tonight.

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Jeff

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On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 18:29:05 +0000, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

I tried to set up the Panasonic Freeview PVR to record the film "The >Negotiator" tonight on 5 Action (Ch33). The PVR reported a programme
clash, which puzzled me as I had nothing else set to record at that time.

The Radio Times shows the film starting at 23:25 and ending at 01:35,
but the EPG shows it starting at 23:10, and ending at 01:25. When I
checked with the PVR as what the clash was, it said it was for this
coming Friday at 21:00 - 22:00 (I have two programmes set up to record
at that time)! I wondered if there was a repeat of the film at that time
on Friday, but there wasn't.

Can someone else check this with their PVR? You might have to set up two >"dummy" programmes to record first on Friday at 21:00 - 22:00 before
trying to add the film tonight.

I'll have to set up a manual recording for tonight.

It's been a while since I used my Panasonic PVR, but I recall there
were a few situations that its algorithms couldn't cope with so I had
to intervene. One of them was where a movie was broadcast in two parts
with a news break in the middle, as Digiguide shows was the case with
the film you mention. If you simply select it from the on-screen
guide, you will only be able to select the two parts as if they were
separate programmes. If you selected both parts and added some padding
to the start and finish times, it's possible that the padding
intervals for the two parts could overlap if the news break is a short
one, and if you have something else set to record on another channel,
the brief overlap would show as three simultaneous recordings and
therefore a clash for a device with only two tuners.

But you probably wouldn't want to record a movie as two separate files
anyway. My technique for two part movies was to select the second part
and make a mental note of the finish time, cancel the selection and
then select the first part, pad the start time and enter the finish
time, plus padding, manually, then save. The news break can then be
edited out later as if it were an extra long advert break.

Rod.

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On 23/02/2023 07:42, Roderick Stewart wrote:

On Wed, 22 Feb 2023 18:29:05 +0000, Jeff Layman <Jeff@invalid.invalid>
wrote:

I tried to set up the Panasonic Freeview PVR to record the film "The
Negotiator" tonight on 5 Action (Ch33). The PVR reported a programme
clash, which puzzled me as I had nothing else set to record at that time.

The Radio Times shows the film starting at 23:25 and ending at 01:35,
but the EPG shows it starting at 23:10, and ending at 01:25. When I
checked with the PVR as what the clash was, it said it was for this
coming Friday at 21:00 - 22:00 (I have two programmes set up to record
at that time)! I wondered if there was a repeat of the film at that time
on Friday, but there wasn't.

Can someone else check this with their PVR? You might have to set up two
"dummy" programmes to record first on Friday at 21:00 - 22:00 before
trying to add the film tonight.

I'll have to set up a manual recording for tonight.

It's been a while since I used my Panasonic PVR, but I recall there
were a few situations that its algorithms couldn't cope with so I had
to intervene. One of them was where a movie was broadcast in two parts
with a news break in the middle, as Digiguide shows was the case with
the film you mention. If you simply select it from the on-screen
guide, you will only be able to select the two parts as if they were
separate programmes. If you selected both parts and added some padding
to the start and finish times, it's possible that the padding
intervals for the two parts could overlap if the news break is a short
one, and if you have something else set to record on another channel,
the brief overlap would show as three simultaneous recordings and
therefore a clash for a device with only two tuners.

But you probably wouldn't want to record a movie as two separate files anyway. My technique for two part movies was to select the second part
and make a mental note of the finish time, cancel the selection and
then select the first part, pad the start time and enter the finish
time, plus padding, manually, then save. The news break can then be
edited out later as if it were an extra long advert break.

I recorded it manually by starting it a few minutes early and ending a
few minutes late (it spanned the news as well).

But I found that one of the programmes I set up to record at 2100 on
Friday - and which supposedly clashed with the EPG-timed film on
Wednesday - did not record! That was "The Wall: Cover Your Tracks" on
More 4. For that failed recording the Panasonic showed "The timer
recording could not start. The following may have occurred. This unit
could not receive event information." That's very strange, as I had
deleted the clashing EPG-timed film. I really don't know what "This unit
could not receive event information" is supposed to mean, as I had also
set up "Hotel Portofino" to record at the same time on ITV, and that
recorded without problem.

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Jeff

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