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  • Re: Freesat - where has Radio 4 gone?

    From Patrick@21:1/5 to Eddie King on Thu Feb 9 06:54:02 2023
    On Thursday, 9 February 2023 at 14:41:19 UTC, Eddie King wrote:
    Hi,

    me again. Thanks to all who replied to my question regarding BBC1 East,
    that is now sorted. However, since today I have lost Radio 4, it seems
    no longer to be on 10788.

    I have found no reference in the article Mark C. supplied and Lyngsat
    and KingofSat still give 10788 as its location.

    Can anyone in the know help with this?

    Many thanks in advance.
    Try 12442 H 27500 or 11023 H 23000 (listed as "8964"}

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Eddie King on Thu Feb 9 14:55:56 2023
    On 09/02/2023 14:41, Eddie King wrote:
    Hi,

    me again. Thanks to all who replied to my question regarding BBC1 East,
    that is now sorted. However, since today I have lost Radio 4, it seems
    no longer to be on 10788.

    I have found no reference in the article Mark C. supplied and Lyngsat
    and KingofSat  still give 10788 as its location.

    Can anyone in the know help with this?

    Many thanks in advance.

    Thank you for alerting me to this. I was wondering when Radio 4 on 10788
    would go offline. It looks as if 11023 H is its new home. I'll need to
    adjust the tuning of my PVR accordingly.

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 9 14:59:51 2023
    This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
    On 09/02/2023 14:55, NY wrote:
    On 09/02/2023 14:41, Eddie King wrote:
    Hi,

    me again. Thanks to all who replied to my question regarding BBC1
    East, that is now sorted. However, since today I have lost Radio 4,
    it seems no longer to be on 10788.

    I have found no reference in the article Mark C. supplied and Lyngsat
    and KingofSat  still give 10788 as its location.

    Can anyone in the know help with this?

    Many thanks in advance.

    Thank you for alerting me to this. I was wondering when Radio 4 on
    10788 would go offline. It looks as if 11023 H is its new home. I'll
    need to adjust the tuning of my PVR accordingly.

    Apologies, it may alternatively be on 12422 H. There seem to be *three* different variants of it: 10788, 11023 and 12422.

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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 09/02/2023 14:55, NY wrote:<br>
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    <blockquote type="cite" cite="mid:md5:CV%2F+JHBeAZxRze2MZzgLFA==">On
    09/02/2023 14:41, Eddie King wrote:
    <br>
    <blockquote type="cite">Hi,
    <br>
    <br>
    me again. Thanks to all who replied to my question regarding
    BBC1 East, that is now sorted. However, since today I have lost
    Radio 4, it seems no longer to be on 10788.
    <br>
    <br>
    I have found no reference in the article Mark C. supplied and
    Lyngsat and KingofSat  still give 10788 as its location.
    <br>
    <br>
    Can anyone in the know help with this?
    <br>
    <br>
    Many thanks in advance.
    <br>
    </blockquote>
    <br>
    Thank you for alerting me to this. I was wondering when Radio 4 on
    10788 would go offline. It looks as if 11023 H is its new home.
    I'll need to adjust the tuning of my PVR accordingly.
    <br>
    </blockquote>
    <p>Apologies, it may alternatively be on 12422 H. There seem to be
    *three* different variants of it: 10788, 11023 and 12422.<br>
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  • From Eddie King@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 9 15:41:16 2023
    Hi,

    me again. Thanks to all who replied to my question regarding BBC1 East,
    that is now sorted. However, since today I have lost Radio 4, it seems
    no longer to be on 10788.

    I have found no reference in the article Mark C. supplied and Lyngsat
    and KingofSat still give 10788 as its location.

    Can anyone in the know help with this?

    Many thanks in advance.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Eddie King on Thu Feb 9 17:04:39 2023
    Eddie King wrote:

    I have lost Radio 4, it seems no longer to be on 10788

    I don't seem to be able to tune to 10788 at all ...

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Thu Feb 9 17:19:06 2023
    "Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in message news:k4knd7F4r3fU1@mid.individual.net...
    Eddie King wrote:

    I have lost Radio 4, it seems no longer to be on 10788

    I don't seem to be able to tune to 10788 at all ...

    Hmm. My PVR has two entries:

    - DVB-S, 22000, QPSK, 5/6
    - DVB-S2, 23000, PSK/8, 3/4

    The second seem to be new parameters, and I can tune to that but not the old parameters.

    The only thing is remaining constant with BBC and satellite is that
    everything is changing. :-)

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  • From Unsteadyken@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 9 17:17:18 2023
    In article <EoednfSIW9z6l3j-nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>,

    NY says...

    it may alternatively be on 12422 H


    My freesat box shows it as 12421 H 27500

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 9 17:30:31 2023
    NY wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:

    I don't seem to be able to tune to 10788 at all ...

    Hmm. My PVR has two entries:

    - DVB-S, 22000, QPSK, 5/6
    - DVB-S2, 23000, PSK/8, 3/4

    I had the first, from a full scan a couple of weeks ago, just set it to
    S2 and AUTO, and yes it switched to the latter.

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Unsteadyken on Thu Feb 9 19:23:06 2023
    On 09/02/2023 17:17, Unsteadyken wrote:
    In article <EoednfSIW9z6l3j-nZ2dnZfqn_WdnZ2d@brightview.co.uk>,

    NY says...

    it may alternatively be on 12422 H


    My freesat box shows it as 12421 H 27500

    For me it shows up as 12421500 kHz, so a foot in both camps, hedging its
    bets ;-)

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Thu Feb 9 19:20:37 2023
    On 09/02/2023 17:30, Andy Burns wrote:
    NY wrote:

    Andy Burns wrote:
    I don't seem to be able to tune to 10788 at all ...

    Hmm. My PVR has two entries:

    - DVB-S, 22000, QPSK, 5/6
    - DVB-S2, 23000, PSK/8, 3/4

    I had the first, from a full scan a couple of weeks ago, just set it to
    S2 and AUTO, and yes it switched to the latter.

    Since I posted, 10788 has stopped working even with the new parameters.
    We need a few "(wo)men at work" signs :-)

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 9 19:32:52 2023
    NY wrote:

    Since I posted, 10788 has stopped working even with the new parameters.
    We need a few "(wo)men at work" signs :-)

    yep, it's now giving a scan result of "FAIL"

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to All on Thu Feb 9 23:57:33 2023
    On 09/02/2023 14:59, NY wrote:
    On 09/02/2023 14:55, NY wrote:
    On 09/02/2023 14:41, Eddie King wrote:
    Hi,

    me again. Thanks to all who replied to my question regarding BBC1
    East, that is now sorted. However, since today I have lost Radio 4,
    it seems no longer to be on 10788.

    I have found no reference in the article Mark C. supplied and Lyngsat
    and KingofSat  still give 10788 as its location.

    Can anyone in the know help with this?

    Many thanks in advance.

    Thank you for alerting me to this. I was wondering when Radio 4 on
    10788 would go offline. It looks as if 11023 H is its new home. I'll
    need to adjust the tuning of my PVR accordingly.

    Apologies, it may alternatively be on 12422 H. There seem to be *three* different variants of it: 10788, 11023 and 12422.


    I think 11023H will be it's final resting place. I think 12422H is just temporary while both 10788H and 11023H are reorganized.

    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Fri Feb 10 00:00:15 2023
    On 09/02/2023 19:32, Andy Burns wrote:
    NY wrote:

    Since I posted, 10788 has stopped working even with the new
    parameters. We need a few "(wo)men at work" signs :-)

    yep, it's now giving a scan result of "FAIL"

    It should be on by 14th Feb.
    You might have to use 12422H for a few days.

    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Brian Gregory on Fri Feb 10 09:31:52 2023
    "Brian Gregory" <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> wrote in message news:k4lfofF822fU2@mid.individual.net...
    On 09/02/2023 19:32, Andy Burns wrote:
    NY wrote:

    Since I posted, 10788 has stopped working even with the new parameters.
    We need a few "(wo)men at work" signs :-)

    yep, it's now giving a scan result of "FAIL"

    It should be on by 14th Feb.
    You might have to use 12422H for a few days.

    10788 is still being worked on, by the looks of things. Yesterday afternoon
    I deleted the old DVB-S entry for it in TVHeadend, leaving the new DVB-S2
    entry which worked at that time. I even emailed Lyngsat to alert them to the change. Then the DVB-S2 one stopped working. This morning the old DVB-S one
    is back (presumably as a result of an overnight scan). Intriguingly, it is
    the DVB-S one which works: TVH manages to lock onto the signal (valid SNR
    and signal strength figures in status) and VLC shows that there is low
    bitrate data being transferred - but no channels so none of the data tables that would be expected. The DVB-S2 one is still giving no signal lock.

    I wonder whether a change yesterday afternoon, which briefly gave a few channels on the DVB-S2 config, with names that were their SIDs, had to be reversed and the mux has temporarily been taken back to its old DVB-S configuration until they are ready to try again.



    It's a shame that 11023H rather than 12422 will be the final resting place
    of the various radio and TV channels, because I spent a while yesterday
    moving things from 10788 to 12422. I'll need to move them again when 11023
    is fully running. My fault for turning off "auto-map services to channels"
    so I retain control over how corresponding terrestrial and satellite
    services are mapped to the same channel; if I left it to auto-map I'd get duplicates eg BBC FOUR versus BBC Four (why are the channel names different
    for sat and terr?).


    Is the BBC's long-term intention to stop using 12422 - is it just a transitional mux?

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Fri Feb 10 09:59:36 2023
    "Andy Burns" <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote in message news:k4miguFdi7iU1@mid.individual.net...
    NY wrote:

    I wonder whether a change yesterday afternoon, which briefly gave a few
    channels on the DVB-S2 config, with names that were their SIDs,

    when it was working as S2 yesterday, I briefly watched the channels most
    were showing Pointless, one was showing football (sunderland FA cup
    replay?) and had a name like EH5 or VH5 I think, others were PID only.

    Just shows "testing" followed by "bad" today


    I've always wondered about the ETV1, ETV2, ETV3 channels that appear in some satellite muxes. They seem to be duplicates of other channels (even sharing stream IDs) in the same mux: I think I found ETVx equivalents of BBC1, BBC2
    and ITV when I looked a few years ago.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 10 09:53:33 2023
    NY wrote:

    I wonder whether a change yesterday afternoon, which briefly gave a few channels on the DVB-S2 config, with names that were their SIDs,

    when it was working as S2 yesterday, I briefly watched the channels most
    were showing Pointless, one was showing football (sunderland FA cup
    replay?) and had a name like EH5 or VH5 I think, others were PID only.

    Just shows "testing" followed by "bad" today

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  • From Brian Gregory@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 10 12:16:08 2023
    On 10/02/2023 09:59, NY wrote:
    I've always wondered about the ETV1, ETV2, ETV3 channels that appear in
    some satellite muxes. They seem to be duplicates of other channels (even sharing stream IDs) in the same mux: I think I found ETVx equivalents of BBC1, BBC2 and ITV when I looked a few years ago.

    I've seen a suggestion somewhere that they're something (no idea what)
    to do with Freesat.

    --
    Brian Gregory (in England).

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to All on Fri Feb 10 12:26:06 2023
    NY wrote:

    I think I found ETVx equivalents of BBC1, BBC2 and ITV when I looked a
    few years ago.

    I think some of those are duplicates, with sky's own MHEG replacement, presumably the A/V streams are shared rather than duplicated?

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