I've just purchased something from Amazon at a price 30% cheaper than I
found elsewhere.
They really are trying harder to get people to join Prime
Going to the checkout a half page banner appeared giving all the
benefits of Prime with a large continue with Prime button.
Next to the banner is the wording "With Prime" and the price with next
day free postage is shown. Then underneath the wording "Without Prime" "Unavailable"
Initially I took it to mean that the item was unavailable without taking
up the Prime trial. I then noticed some small print low contrast text "continue purchase without Prime"
The "Unavailable" was just the next day free delivery!
They still offer free delivery but not next day
I've just purchased something from Amazon at a price 30% cheaper than I found elsewhere.
They really are trying harder to get people to join Prime
alan_m wrote:
They still offer free delivery but not next day
Yes, I'm afraid that's totally normal now, I expect quite a lot of people fall
for it.
alan_m wrote:
I've just purchased something from Amazon at a price 30% cheaper than
I found elsewhere.
They really are trying harder to get people to join Prime
If you do join prime, don't fall into the trap of thinking everything is cheapest that way ...
Amazon are the masters of "dark patterns" on their websites, making buttons you
don't want be the default, highlighting options they want you to follow etc, I >don't think I know anyone who hasn't accidentally signed-up for prime without >thinking they have (though they're good about cancelling it)
On 09/12/2022 16:00, alan_m wrote:
I've just purchased something from Amazon at a price 30% cheaper than I
found elsewhere.
They really are trying harder to get people to join Prime
Going to the checkout a half page banner appeared giving all the benefits
of Prime with a large continue with Prime button.
Next to the banner is the wording "With Prime" and the price with next
day free postage is shown. Then underneath the wording "Without Prime"
"Unavailable"
Initially I took it to mean that the item was unavailable without taking
up the Prime trial. I then noticed some small print low contrast text
"continue purchase without Prime"
The "Unavailable" was just the next day free delivery!
They still offer free delivery but not next day
Yes, I'm afraid that's totally normal now, I expect quite a lot of people fall for it.
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I've just purchased something from Amazon at a price 30% cheaper than I
found elsewhere.
They really are trying harder to get people to join Prime
Going to the checkout a half page banner appeared giving all the benefits
of Prime with a large continue with Prime button.
Next to the banner is the wording "With Prime" and the price with next day free postage is shown. Then underneath the wording "Without Prime" "Unavailable"
Initially I took it to mean that the item was unavailable without taking
up the Prime trial. I then noticed some small print low contrast text "continue purchase without Prime"
The "Unavailable" was just the next day free delivery!
They still offer free delivery but not next day
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Java Jive wrote:
alan_m wrote:
They still offer free delivery but not next day
Yes, I'm afraid that's totally normal now, I expect quite a lot of people fallAmazon are the masters of "dark patterns" on their websites, making buttons you
for it.
don't want be the default, highlighting options they want you to follow etc, I
don't think I know anyone who hasn't accidentally signed-up for prime without thinking they have (though they're good about cancelling it)
On Friday, 9 December 2022 at 17:07:39 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Java Jive wrote:
alan_m wrote:
They still offer free delivery but not next day
Yes, I'm afraid that's totally normal now, I expect quite a lotAmazon are the masters of "dark patterns" on their websites, making
of people fall for it.
buttons you don't want be the default, highlighting options they
want you to follow etc, I don't think I know anyone who hasn't
accidentally signed-up for prime without thinking they have (though
they're good about cancelling it)
Indeed - I accidentally signed up for Prime twice about five years
apart.
Indeed - I accidentally signed up for Prime twice about five years apart.
On 10/12/2022 08:11, Brian Gaff wrote:
The beauty of using a screenreader is that it cares not what size the
font
is.
In this case the positioning of the text that says continue without prime comes after the text that ambiguously suggests the item is unavailable
unless you join prime. They have thought long and hard about how to fool people that rely on screen readers.
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I've just purchased something from Amazon at a price 30% cheaper than I
found elsewhere.
They really are trying harder to get people to join Prime
Going to the checkout a half page banner appeared giving all the
benefits of Prime with a large continue with Prime button.
Next to the banner is the wording "With Prime" and the price with next
day free postage is shown. Then underneath the wording "Without Prime" >"Unavailable"
Initially I took it to mean that the item was unavailable without taking
up the Prime trial. I then noticed some small print low contrast text >"continue purchase without Prime"
The "Unavailable" was just the next day free delivery!
They still offer free delivery but not next day
On Friday, 9 December 2022 at 17:07:39 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Java Jive wrote:
alan_m wrote:Amazon are the masters of "dark patterns" on their websites, making buttons you
They still offer free delivery but not next day
Yes, I'm afraid that's totally normal now, I expect quite a lot of people fall
for it.
don't want be the default, highlighting options they want you to follow etc, I
don't think I know anyone who hasn't accidentally signed-up for prime without
thinking they have (though they're good about cancelling it)
Indeed - I accidentally signed up for Prime twice about five years apart.
On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 06:10:40 -0800 (PST)
"R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 9 December 2022 at 17:07:39 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Java Jive wrote:
alan_m wrote:Amazon are the masters of "dark patterns" on their websites, making
They still offer free delivery but not next day
Yes, I'm afraid that's totally normal now, I expect quite a lot
of people fall for it.
buttons you don't want be the default, highlighting options they
want you to follow etc, I don't think I know anyone who hasn't
accidentally signed-up for prime without thinking they have (though
they're good about cancelling it)
Indeed - I accidentally signed up for Prime twice about five years
apart.
I've managed to avoid the accidental joining. I have joined twice >deliberately, to get Prime Video, and then cancelled within the
one month allowed.
On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 16:15:02 +0000, Davey <davey@example.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 10 Dec 2022 06:10:40 -0800 (PST)
"R. Mark Clayton" <notyalckram@gmail.com> wrote:
On Friday, 9 December 2022 at 17:07:39 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Java Jive wrote:
alan_m wrote:Amazon are the masters of "dark patterns" on their websites, making
They still offer free delivery but not next day
Yes, I'm afraid that's totally normal now, I expect quite a lot
of people fall for it.
buttons you don't want be the default, highlighting options they
want you to follow etc, I don't think I know anyone who hasn't
accidentally signed-up for prime without thinking they have (though
they're good about cancelling it)
Indeed - I accidentally signed up for Prime twice about five years
apart.
I've managed to avoid the accidental joining. I have joined twice
deliberately, to get Prime Video, and then cancelled within the
one month allowed.
+1
On Friday, 9 December 2022 at 17:07:39 UTC, Andy Burns wrote:
Java Jive wrote:
alan_m wrote:
They still offer free delivery but not next day
Yes, I'm afraid that's totally normal now, I expect quite a lot of people fallAmazon are the masters of "dark patterns" on their websites, making buttons you
for it.
don't want be the default, highlighting options they want you to follow etc, I
don't think I know anyone who hasn't accidentally signed-up for prime without
thinking they have (though they're good about cancelling it)
Indeed - I accidentally signed up for Prime twice about five years apart.
I never have signed up to Prime, deliberately or accidentally. Maybe as
I avoid Amazon as they charge £2 postage if the package goes through the >letterbox or £4 if it doesn't. And, in the latter case, I have to
arrange to be in: the Royal Mail postman knows where my flats are (and
how to get in), where my flat is (if they are regulars) *and* I know
more or less when they will call. Amazon marketplace is better: many
have free postage and use Royal Mail for the last few miles.
On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 14:45:41 +0000, Max Demian
<max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
I never have signed up to Prime, deliberately or accidentally. Maybe
as I avoid Amazon as they charge £2 postage if the package goes
through the letterbox or £4 if it doesn't. And, in the latter case,
I have to arrange to be in: the Royal Mail postman knows where my
flats are (and how to get in), where my flat is (if they are
regulars) *and* I know more or less when they will call. Amazon
marketplace is better: many have free postage and use Royal Mail for
the last few miles.
Is there a set of yellow lockers near where you live? If so, you don't
need to stay in at all, just go and collect your parcels whenever
convenient. If not, another option is to designate an "Amazon day"
which is a particular day of the week for deliveries, so that you can
order things on several days throughout the week but only stay in for
one day because they'll all be delivered at once. You can change your
Amazon day whenever you like.
Online tracking shows when a delivery is expected and is updated
throughout the day, culminating in an online map of the area near your
home that shows, for the last hour or so, exactly where the van is.
A Prime subscription includes delivery costs for many items, and a lot
of movies and TV programmes you can watch online.
Your money, your choice...
Rod.
On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 07:39:22 +0000
Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 14:45:41 +0000, Max Demian
<max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
I never have signed up to Prime, deliberately or accidentally. Maybe
as I avoid Amazon as they charge £2 postage if the package goes
through the letterbox or £4 if it doesn't. And, in the latter case,
I have to arrange to be in: the Royal Mail postman knows where my
flats are (and how to get in), where my flat is (if they are
regulars) *and* I know more or less when they will call. Amazon
marketplace is better: many have free postage and use Royal Mail for
the last few miles.
Is there a set of yellow lockers near where you live? If so, you don't
need to stay in at all, just go and collect your parcels whenever
convenient. If not, another option is to designate an "Amazon day"
which is a particular day of the week for deliveries, so that you can
order things on several days throughout the week but only stay in for
one day because they'll all be delivered at once. You can change your
Amazon day whenever you like.
Online tracking shows when a delivery is expected and is updated
throughout the day, culminating in an online map of the area near your
home that shows, for the last hour or so, exactly where the van is.
A Prime subscription includes delivery costs for many items, and a lot
of movies and TV programmes you can watch online.
Your money, your choice...
Rod.
Oddly, although there is a set of those yellow lockers in our local Morrisons, they didn't come up as an option when I wanted to collect something from there. Hopefully just a one-off system failure, but
annoying nevertheless.
Oddly, although there is a set of those yellow lockers in our local >Morrisons, they didn't come up as an option when I wanted to collect >something from there. Hopefully just a one-off system failure, but
annoying nevertheless.
On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 09:12:41 +0000, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
wrote:
Oddly, although there is a set of those yellow lockers in our local >Morrisons, they didn't come up as an option when I wanted to collect >something from there. Hopefully just a one-off system failure, but
annoying nevertheless.
Yes, not every item can be sent to the lockers, and sometimes an
individual locker will be greyed out in the list, or there will be a
message saying that it's currently full. Like everything else, the
system doesn't always work perfectly, but it's useful when it does.
Rod.
On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 09:12:41 +0000, Davey <davey@example.invalid>
wrote:
Oddly, although there is a set of those yellow lockers in our local >Morrisons, they didn't come up as an option when I wanted to collect >something from there. Hopefully just a one-off system failure, but
annoying nevertheless.
Yes, not every item can be sent to the lockers, and sometimes an
individual locker will be greyed out in the list, or there will be a
message saying that it's currently full. Like everything else, the
system doesn't always work perfectly, but it's useful when it does.
Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 09:12:41 +0000, Davey <davey@example.invalid>It's also *very* useful when you want to buy things 'away from home'.
wrote:
Oddly, although there is a set of those yellow lockers in our local
Morrisons, they didn't come up as an option when I wanted to collect
something from there. Hopefully just a one-off system failure, but
annoying nevertheless.
Yes, not every item can be sent to the lockers, and sometimes an
individual locker will be greyed out in the list, or there will be a
message saying that it's currently full. Like everything else, the
system doesn't always work perfectly, but it's useful when it does.
I use the Amazon Lockers at the town in France where our boat is moored.
On Mon, 12 Dec 2022 14:45:41 +0000, Max Demian
<max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
I never have signed up to Prime, deliberately or accidentally. Maybe as
I avoid Amazon as they charge £2 postage if the package goes through the
letterbox or £4 if it doesn't. And, in the latter case, I have to
arrange to be in: the Royal Mail postman knows where my flats are (and
how to get in), where my flat is (if they are regulars) *and* I know
more or less when they will call. Amazon marketplace is better: many
have free postage and use Royal Mail for the last few miles.
Is there a set of yellow lockers near where you live? If so, you don't
need to stay in at all, just go and collect your parcels whenever
convenient. If not, another option is to designate an "Amazon day"
which is a particular day of the week for deliveries, so that you can
order things on several days throughout the week but only stay in for
one day because they'll all be delivered at once. You can change your
Amazon day whenever you like.
Online tracking shows when a delivery is expected and is updated
throughout the day, culminating in an online map of the area near your
home that shows, for the last hour or so, exactly where the van is.
A Prime subscription includes delivery costs for many items, and a lot
of movies and TV programmes you can watch online.
Just on the subject of useful services, with DPD Local you as a domestic
non business customer can send parcels to pick up locations. I had to send
a cake to my son who is rarely in to accept parcels. Royal Mail parcels end up at the local depot. RM won’t allow non business users to send to pick up locations. DPD let me send the package to his local Morrisons. I dropped it off at the local news agent, who is a drop off point. Think it cost me
around £3.50 for a couple of kg.
Rather odd to bundle free delivery with streaming - you might want one
and not the other.
Yes, not every item can be sent to the lockers, and sometimes an
individual locker will be greyed out in the list, or there will be a
message saying that it's currently full. Like everything else, the
system doesn't always work perfectly, but it's useful when it does.
On 13/12/2022 09:44, Roderick Stewart wrote:
Yes, not every item can be sent to the lockers, and sometimes an
individual locker will be greyed out in the list, or there will be a
message saying that it's currently full. Like everything else, the
system doesn't always work perfectly, but it's useful when it does.
I've found that some items that claim to be deliverable to a locker
always find all the lockers full, even though other items find space. I suspect that they don't like allocating locker space to low value items.
Some years ago there were lots of complaints that many of the carriers
were charging extra for the Highland and Islands though their definition included Inverness town I think!
I used to subscribe to their streaming service (before Prime), and
LoveFilm before (that they bought up), but I found that the films they
showed were the sort that get shown on Freeview anyway eventually.
On Tue, 13 Dec 2022 12:14:04 +0000, Max Demian
<max_demian@bigfoot.com> wrote:
I used to subscribe to their streaming service (before Prime), and
LoveFilm before (that they bought up), but I found that the films they
showed were the sort that get shown on Freeview anyway eventually.
Yes, you can watch movies on Freeview, but even if the movie itself is
not full of advert breaks, the end credits will be interrupted, and
will probably be severely truncated as well. Sometimes the end credit
music can be enjoyed as part of the performance, but the mutilated
versions offered by broadcasters give you no choice.
Rubbish at the end is a nuisance, but adverts can be skipped or edited
out. If I want to keep a film I can burn it to DVD with my Panasonic
HDD/DVD recorder.
Is it correct that nowadays such DVDs can only be viewed on the
machine that recorded them?
Max Demian wrote:
Rubbish at the end is a nuisance, but adverts can be skipped or edited
out. If I want to keep a film I can burn it to DVD with my Panasonic
HDD/DVD recorder.
Is it correct that nowadays such DVDs can only be viewed on the
machine that recorded them?
but I found that the films they
showed were the sort that get shown on Freeview anyway eventually.
Yes, you can watch movies on Freeview, but even if the movie itself is
not full of advert breaks, the end credits will be interrupted, and
will probably be severely truncated as well. Sometimes the end credit
music can be enjoyed as part of the performance, but the mutilated
versions offered by broadcasters give you no choice.
Even bloody iPlayer is doing this now - sticking up irritating
adverts for the 'next' programme over the end of the current one
and cutting it off 15s or so before the end unless you take action
to cancel it.
I didn't see an option to disable this.
Even bloody iPlayer is doing this now - sticking up irritating
adverts for the 'next' programme over the end of the current one
and cutting it off 15s or so before the end unless you take action
to cancel it.
I didn't see an option to disable this.
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