• 5USA on FreeView21 warbly audio

    From J. P. Gilliver@21:1/5 to All on Fri Jan 19 03:28:40 2024
    Seems like cutting in and out many times a second; still comprehensible
    - rather like you hear on YouTube, VLC etc. at other than ×1 speed.
    Video looks fine. Subtitles are fine. Persists through ad. breaks (i. e.
    the audio in the ad.s, and trailers, is warbly too). I don't _think_
    it's my TV - all other channels I've tried, audio (and video) are fine.
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  • From J. P. Gilliver@21:1/5 to J. P. Gilliver on Fri Jan 19 04:20:21 2024
    In message <uxVFO+9oxeqlFw4y@255soft.uk> at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 03:28:40,
    J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> writes
    Seems like cutting in and out many times a second; still comprehensible
    - rather like you hear on YouTube, VLC etc. at other than ×1 speed.
    Video looks fine. Subtitles are fine. Persists through ad. breaks (i.
    e. the audio in the ad.s, and trailers, is warbly too). I don't _think_
    it's my TV - all other channels I've tried, audio (and video) are fine.

    Weird: seems it _is_ my set, as when I tried on another set, it isn't
    warbly - but when I come back to the first one (which has been into and
    then out of standby), it's still warbly. Just on that one channel! Just
    doing a retune for mux SDN (channel 40 here) - no, didn't cure it.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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    (Nkosiphambili E. Molapis)

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  • From Woody@21:1/5 to J. P. Gilliver on Fri Jan 19 12:58:35 2024
    On Fri 19/01/2024 03:28, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    Seems like cutting in and out many times a second; still comprehensible
    - rather like you hear on YouTube, VLC etc. at other than ×1 speed.
    Video looks fine. Subtitles are fine. Persists through ad. breaks (i. e.
    the audio in the ad.s, and trailers, is warbly too). I don't _think_
    it's my TV - all other channels I've tried, audio (and video) are fine.


    Doing it here as well from Emley.

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  • From Woody@21:1/5 to Woody on Fri Jan 19 13:23:33 2024
    On Fri 19/01/2024 12:58, Woody wrote:
    On Fri 19/01/2024 03:28, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    Seems like cutting in and out many times a second; still
    comprehensible - rather like you hear on YouTube, VLC etc. at other
    than ×1 speed. Video looks fine. Subtitles are fine. Persists through
    ad. breaks (i. e. the audio in the ad.s, and trailers, is warbly too).
    I don't _think_ it's my TV - all other channels I've tried, audio (and
    video) are fine.


    Doing it here as well from Emley.


    I'll expound on that.

    We have 5 TVs in the house:
    Samsung 32" Smart
    Samsung 24" full HD
    Samsung 28" SD about 20 years old
    Philips 24" full HD
    Panasonic 26" SD over 20 years old
    and the sound upset ONLY occurs on the Panasonic.

    I live almost on line between Emley and Bilsdale and they are BOTH doing
    the burbling sound, picture is perfect.
    I put a 5G filter in line on the Panny and it still does it, even with
    an 18dB attenuator as well. I also wiped the memory and tried Com4 alone
    on both Bilsdale and Emley and they are both still at it.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Woody on Fri Jan 19 13:27:23 2024
    Woody wrote:

    J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    Seems like cutting in and out many times a second;

    Doing it here as well from Emley.

    Law & Order (and ad break) sounds clean from Waltham.

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  • From Woody@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Fri Jan 19 13:46:19 2024
    On Fri 19/01/2024 13:27, Andy Burns wrote:
    Woody wrote:

    J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    Seems like cutting in and out many times a second;

    Doing it here as well from Emley.

    Law & Order (and ad break) sounds clean from Waltham.


    Just used the chat line to Freeview and they admit there is a national broadcast problem that affects only certain makes of TV.

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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Woody on Fri Jan 19 14:30:34 2024
    Woody wrote:

    Just used the chat line to Freeview and they admit there is a national broadcast problem that affects only certain makes of TV.

    The audio stream spec on 5USA doesn't look any different from the others
    in the MUX.

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  • From Woody@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Fri Jan 19 18:38:10 2024
    On Fri 19/01/2024 14:30, Andy Burns wrote:
    Woody wrote:

    Just used the chat line to Freeview and they admit there is a national
    broadcast problem that affects only certain makes of TV.

    The audio stream spec on 5USA doesn't look any different from the others
    in the MUX.



    They've either cured it, or its cured itself because it has gone dark outside.......

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Fri Jan 19 19:36:17 2024
    In message <uodljd$33tgv$1@dont-email.me> at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 11:14:50,
    Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> writes
    Yes way back you used to get this same problem with CSI. Apparently some >older series were edited for putting out a bit earlier, so gory bits and
    dead people were taken out. This sounded like a swizling or warbling noise, >like a water mark. These shows often lost their AD tracks too.
    One problem with AD is that if an add break comes in the middle of an ad
    sound ducking, the sound then stays ducked and you have to switch away then >back to get the volume back. Same can happen if adverts with AD are mixed >with those without Flash ads are one culprit.
    Brian

    No, I remember the level problems with CSI and the like, and that the
    ad. break sometimes cured it, or had some other effect. This problem was
    a sort of garbled audio - understandable, mostly, but obviously not
    right. It was still doing it on my Panasonic - but not my Polaroid -
    this morning. I've been out, and now - Friday evening - the problem is
    gone, i. e. FreeView channel 21 audio is fine.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    ... the greatest musical festival in the world that doesn't involve mud.
    - Eddie Mair, RT 2014/8/16-22

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@21:1/5 to Woody on Fri Jan 19 19:38:54 2024
    In message <uodt4o$35bju$1@dont-email.me> at Fri, 19 Jan 2024 13:23:33,
    Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> writes
    On Fri 19/01/2024 12:58, Woody wrote:
    On Fri 19/01/2024 03:28, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    Seems like cutting in and out many times a second; still
    comprehensible - rather like you hear on YouTube, VLC etc. at other
    than ×1 speed. Video looks fine. Subtitles are fine. Persists through
    ad. breaks (i. e. the audio in the ad.s, and trailers, is warbly
    too). I don't _think_ it's my TV - all other channels I've tried,
    audio (and video) are fine.
    Doing it here as well from Emley.

    Oh, I _am_ glad it wasn't just me!

    I'll expound on that.

    We have 5 TVs in the house:
    Samsung 32" Smart
    Samsung 24" full HD
    Samsung 28" SD about 20 years old
    Philips 24" full HD
    Panasonic 26" SD over 20 years old
    and the sound upset ONLY occurs on the Panasonic.

    Same here! Well, I only have an elderly Panasonic, and a Polaroid STB,
    which is HD (T2) so presumably more recent.

    I live almost on line between Emley and Bilsdale and they are BOTH
    doing the burbling sound, picture is perfect.
    I put a 5G filter in line on the Panny and it still does it, even with
    an 18dB attenuator as well. I also wiped the memory and tried Com4
    alone on both Bilsdale and Emley and they are both still at it.

    I did try a rescan on just that MUX (channel 40 or 44 here IIRR) and it
    didn't cure it. OK now (Friday evening) though.

    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    ... the greatest musical festival in the world that doesn't involve mud.
    - Eddie Mair, RT 2014/8/16-22

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