• Gold bitrate DAB+

    From Scott@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 8 11:48:40 2024
    Has the Gold bitrate been increased from 32 kbps to 40 kbps? Is this a consequence of Classic FM moving to DAB+ and releasing capacity?

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to Scott on Mon Jan 8 11:54:40 2024
    On 08/01/2024 11:48, Scott wrote:
    Has the Gold bitrate been increased from 32 kbps to 40 kbps? Is this a consequence of Classic FM moving to DAB+ and releasing capacity?

    Yep, as ever Wohnort is your friend

    https://www.wohnort.org/dab/

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to All on Mon Jan 8 12:07:37 2024
    On Mon, 8 Jan 2024 11:54:40 +0000, Mark Carver <mark@invalid.com>
    wrote:

    On 08/01/2024 11:48, Scott wrote:
    Has the Gold bitrate been increased from 32 kbps to 40 kbps? Is this a
    consequence of Classic FM moving to DAB+ and releasing capacity?

    Yep, as ever Wohnort is your friend

    https://www.wohnort.org/dab/

    Thanks. I shall look there in future. Is this a first for any station
    to increase its bitrate? By my count, this leaves another 40 kbps for
    Global to introduce another station.

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to brian1gaff@gmail.com on Fri Jan 12 12:40:35 2024
    On Fri, 12 Jan 2024 12:35:36 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
    <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:

    Still sounds like crap to me, probably due to the signal processing.
    Brian

    I think it is clearer than it was - possibly more treble.

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to brian1gaff@gmail.com on Mon Jan 15 10:58:09 2024
    On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 10:49:55 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
    <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:

    Its so compressed though. Listen to the pumping up and down.

    I'll try to but I wonder how much of it is inherent to the source
    material. After all, was it not Phil Spector who first introduced the
    wall of sound?

    Mind you its pure hi fi compared with heart or Carolanes on line offering
    via freeview.
    Brian

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  • From John Williamson@21:1/5 to Scott on Mon Jan 15 11:28:15 2024
    Phil Spector's wall of sound wasn't dynamically compressed. It was
    actually a room full of musicians. When I look at a picture of a
    recording session, that studio is *crowded*. Dynamic compression in
    those days involved doing things like controlling the levels by using a
    light bulb to illuminate a light dependent resistor. From Wikilies. :-

    "To attain the Wall of Sound, Spector's arrangements called for large
    ensembles (including some instruments not generally used for ensemble
    playing, such as electric and acoustic guitars), with multiple
    instruments doubling or tripling many of the parts to create a fuller,
    richer tone. For example, Spector often duplicated a part played by an
    acoustic piano with an electric piano and a harpsichord. Mixed well
    enough, the three instruments would then be indistinguishable to the
    listener."

    The pumping you hear on many stations now is usually an Orban Optimod
    type device, either sitting between the studio and the transmitter or implemented in the studio software, with a limiter on the transmitter input.

    On 15/01/2024 10:58, Scott wrote:
    On Mon, 15 Jan 2024 10:49:55 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
    <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:

    Its so compressed though. Listen to the pumping up and down.

    I'll try to but I wonder how much of it is inherent to the source
    material. After all, was it not Phil Spector who first introduced the
    wall of sound?

    Mind you its pure hi fi compared with heart or Carolanes on line offering
    via freeview.
    Brian


    --
    Tciao for Now!

    John.

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