I'm just watching the BBC, ITV and Sky News reports of the News Year fireworks in London. On all the reports, there is a lag of about 3-5
seconds between the audience chanting the countdown and the bongs of Big
Ben - the first hour-bong was when chants were at about 4 seconds before midnight.
<Big Ben accuracy>
to time," Mr Strangeway said.
"We'll be taking time checks throughout the day and making small
adjustments to the pendulum, just to make sure that midnight happens
exactly when everyone is expecting it to."
I'm always amazed that the clock in the Elizabeth Tower which drives
Big Ben can be made so accurate. My experience with clockwork clocks
(eg chiming granddaughter clocks) is that each one gains or loses a
variable number of minutes each day - each one is not (for example) >consistently five minutes slow 24 hours after being set correctly, but
the error varies day by day. And that's for clocks which have been
repaired within the last year or so. I imagine that the pendulum of
"Big Ben" (shorthand for "the clock that drives Big Ben") is well
compensated for variations in temperature and therefore length. I know
they used to (maybe still do) add/subtract coins on the pendulum weight
to make subtle changes to its length. I imagine for important events
like New Year is is tweaked *very* accurately!
With modern digital timing and a light beam which is broken by the
pendulum rod, they can probably time the swing of the pendulum very >accurately and so, even averaging over just one swing, they can
determine very accurately how fast or slow it is ticking and therefore
how much correction needs to be made to the period. A bit different to
our clocks which have a pendulum which is only a couple of inches long
and which has a simple knurled nut which screws up and down the shaft
to make the bob rise or fall. The very act of moving the clock to get
at the pendulum, and then unhooking the pendulum to adjust it and then >re-hooking it, probably introduces changes in addition to the
adjustment of the knurled nut. We're fighting a losing battle! We've
got used to tweaking the time of our clocks every morning so they are
at least reasonably correct for that day.
On 02/01/2024 10:17, NY wrote:
<Big Ben accuracy>
The movement of the clock that operates the chimes in the Queen
Elizabeth Tower is consistent to within less than a second per day
It wasn't until read about Harrison's "Longitude" clocks that I even
realised that clockwork could ever be made that accurate. There is
something wrong if modern consumer clockwork (watches, clocks) is worse
that high-precision from 300 years ago - you tend to assume that what
was precision a long time ago will become commonplace and consumer-grade
a few centuries later.
Certainly my Window 7 PC which doesn't phone home (*) as often as my
Win10 and Linux ones do, can be a couple of minutes adrift if I happen
to sync it manually.
On 02/01/2024 19:15, NY wrote:
It wasn't until read about Harrison's "Longitude" clocks that I evenIt is all down to cost. Expensive devices can justify using things like >bimetallic balance wheels which use differential expansion to keep the >effective radius constant, and even to compensate for the change in >elasticity of the spring with temperature. You can still buy clockwork >chronograph quality watches, but they can't be made as cheaply as, say,
realised that clockwork could ever be made that accurate. There is
something wrong if modern consumer clockwork (watches, clocks) is worse
that high-precision from 300 years ago - you tend to assume that what
was precision a long time ago will become commonplace and consumer-grade
a few centuries later.
the Timex of childhood. Cheap watches of all types now, analogue or
digital, are only made well enough to avoid warranty claims, as they
were in the 19th Century.
Certainly my Window 7 PC which doesn't phone home (*) as often as myProbably uses a ceramic resonator for the system clock, not a crystal.
Win10 and Linux ones do, can be a couple of minutes adrift if I happen
to sync it manually.
Even a cheap quartz crystal can do better than +- 50ppm. (A fraction of
a second per week) A ceramic resonator can be as much as 0.5% out and
is nowhere near as stable.
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