• BBC

    From jon@21:1/5 to All on Fri Oct 20 17:35:27 2023
    Thee seems to be a huge amount of coverage from the middle east.

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  • From Woody@21:1/5 to jon on Fri Oct 20 18:42:14 2023
    On Fri 20/10/2023 18:35, jon wrote:
    Thee seems to be a huge amount of coverage from the middle east.


    Not much more if what I read about the Israeli attitude towards the BBC
    is correct!

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to Woody on Fri Oct 20 20:21:58 2023
    Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On Fri 20/10/2023 18:35, jon wrote:
    Thee seems to be a huge amount of coverage from the middle east.


    Not much more if what I read about the Israeli attitude towards the BBC
    is correct!

    I heard Mishal Husain attempting to interview the spokesman for the
    Israeli defence forces about the hospital explosion. Having previously broadcast the claims by Hamas without questioning them or pointing out
    the lack of supporting evidence, she then began by asking him if he
    would welcome an independent enquiry. The tone of the question
    suggested that whatever he said about the explosion was bound to be a
    lie and wasn't worth hearing.

    As he had just come from a conference at which he had put into the
    public domain some fairly convincing intelligence evidence for the cause
    of the explosion, he was absolutely beside himself with rage at the
    apparent bias of her question. She then attempted to justify herself by reeling off an obviously-prepared list of cases where the intial Israeli reports in the distant past had subsequently proved incorrect.

    It did not show the BBC in a very good light.

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to Liz Tuddenham on Sat Oct 21 09:52:54 2023
    On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 20:21:58 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On Fri 20/10/2023 18:35, jon wrote:
    Thee seems to be a huge amount of coverage from the middle east.


    Not much more if what I read about the Israeli attitude towards the BBC
    is correct!

    I heard Mishal Husain attempting to interview the spokesman for the
    Israeli defence forces about the hospital explosion. Having previously >broadcast the claims by Hamas without questioning them or pointing out
    the lack of supporting evidence, she then began by asking him if he
    would welcome an independent enquiry. The tone of the question
    suggested that whatever he said about the explosion was bound to be a
    lie and wasn't worth hearing.

    As he had just come from a conference at which he had put into the
    public domain some fairly convincing intelligence evidence for the cause
    of the explosion, he was absolutely beside himself with rage at the
    apparent bias of her question. She then attempted to justify herself by >reeling off an obviously-prepared list of cases where the intial Israeli >reports in the distant past had subsequently proved incorrect.

    It did not show the BBC in a very good light.

    Are you sure about this? Is it not the role of a journalist - like a
    solicitor in court - to challenge what is said? Of course I understand
    the sensitivity of the situation but this was a professional spokesman representing a government, not a private individual.

    You may have seen C4 News last night analysing forensic evidence of
    the Doppler effect and looking at the splash pattern of debris.

    I have mainly been watching Sky News.

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to Scott on Sat Oct 21 10:08:55 2023
    On 21/10/2023 09:52, Scott wrote:


    You may have seen C4 News last night analysing forensic evidence of
    the Doppler effect and looking at the splash pattern of debris.

    Yes, I saw that too. Very interesting. The same audio forensic company
    also analysed the alleged Hamas conversation.

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to Scott on Sat Oct 21 13:46:38 2023
    Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:

    On Fri, 20 Oct 2023 20:21:58 +0100, liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid
    (Liz Tuddenham) wrote:

    Woody <harrogate3@ntlworld.com> wrote:

    On Fri 20/10/2023 18:35, jon wrote:
    Thee seems to be a huge amount of coverage from the middle east.


    Not much more if what I read about the Israeli attitude towards the BBC
    is correct!

    I heard Mishal Husain attempting to interview the spokesman for the
    Israeli defence forces about the hospital explosion. Having previously >broadcast the claims by Hamas without questioning them or pointing out
    the lack of supporting evidence, she then began by asking him if he
    would welcome an independent enquiry. The tone of the question
    suggested that whatever he said about the explosion was bound to be a
    lie and wasn't worth hearing.

    As he had just come from a conference at which he had put into the
    public domain some fairly convincing intelligence evidence for the cause
    of the explosion, he was absolutely beside himself with rage at the >apparent bias of her question. She then attempted to justify herself by >reeling off an obviously-prepared list of cases where the intial Israeli >reports in the distant past had subsequently proved incorrect.

    It did not show the BBC in a very good light.

    Are you sure about this? Is it not the role of a journalist - like a solicitor in court - to challenge what is said? Of course I understand
    the sensitivity of the situation but this was a professional spokesman representing a government, not a private individual.

    I would have understood if she had waited for him to describe his
    evidence and then challenged him on it, that would have been good
    journalism. It sounded as if either she wasn't aware that he had just
    come from presenting evidence at a conference or she was dismissing out
    of hand in advance anything he was going to say, so wasn't going to let
    him say it.

    It was almost: "We don't want to hear your evidence, lets have a
    diversionary argument about something that isn't in your remit.".


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