• Green button?

    From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to All on Fri Sep 15 09:42:55 2023
    What is this increasing use of the press the green button for xxxxx, then. I get it blurted out during some commercials and programs on my Samsung voice, and wondered what it was, since selecting green seems to do nothing. I'm guessing its some form of text on screen that the set is unable to read.
    Brian

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Fri Sep 15 10:28:57 2023
    On 15/09/2023 09:42, Brian Gaff wrote:
    What is this increasing use of the press the green button for xxxxx, then. I get it blurted out during some commercials and programs on my Samsung voice, and wondered what it was, since selecting green seems to do nothing. I'm guessing its some form of text on screen that the set is unable to read.


    On BBC Channels on Freeview a prompt comes up (for a few seconds)
    inviting you to 'Press Green' to start watching the programme from the
    start. Obviously it fires up iplayer automatically, and starts playing
    the programme.

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Fri Sep 15 13:45:42 2023
    In message <kmimepFnfmeU1@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 15 Sep 2023
    10:28:57, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> writes
    On 15/09/2023 09:42, Brian Gaff wrote:
    What is this increasing use of the press the green button for xxxxx, then. I >> get it blurted out during some commercials and programs on my Samsung voice, >> and wondered what it was, since selecting green seems to do nothing. I'm
    guessing its some form of text on screen that the set is unable to read.


    On BBC Channels on Freeview a prompt comes up (for a few seconds)
    inviting you to 'Press Green' to start watching the programme from the
    start. Obviously it fires up iplayer automatically, and starts playing
    the programme.

    For those with a suitable set, an internet connection, and the two
    connected together. I've given up being fed up at "press red to view on iplayer", or rather commenting on it - it still irritates me no end.
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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to J. P. Gilliver on Fri Sep 15 14:03:11 2023
    J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    I've given up being fed up at "press red to view on
    iplayer", or rather commenting on it - it still irritates me no end.

    Red button is also the (only?) way to be allowed into 4K/UHD versions of programmes ...

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@21:1/5 to Andy Burns on Fri Sep 15 14:26:08 2023
    In message <kmj30eFpck0U1@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 15 Sep 2023
    14:03:11, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes
    J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    I've given up being fed up at "press red to view on iplayer", or
    rather commenting on it - it still irritates me no end.

    Red button is also the (only?) way to be allowed into 4K/UHD versions
    of programmes ...

    Presumably red button AND an internet-connected TV - certainly on
    FreeView, I don't think any 4K/UHD is broadcast. But at least I've not
    heard voice telling me to press red for 4K/UHD, whereas they're
    _constantly_ saying it for iplayer.
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  • From Stephen Wolstenholme@21:1/5 to G6JPG@255soft.uk on Fri Sep 15 15:52:20 2023
    On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 14:26:08 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
    <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

    In message <kmj30eFpck0U1@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 15 Sep 2023
    14:03:11, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes
    J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    I've given up being fed up at "press red to view on iplayer", or
    rather commenting on it - it still irritates me no end.

    Red button is also the (only?) way to be allowed into 4K/UHD versions
    of programmes ...

    Presumably red button AND an internet-connected TV - certainly on
    FreeView, I don't think any 4K/UHD is broadcast. But at least I've not
    heard voice telling me to press red for 4K/UHD, whereas they're
    _constantly_ saying it for iplayer.

    I have tried the red button. It produces a menu but the iplayer does
    not work. I assume an internet "smart" TV is needed. It works OK on a
    computer connection but I don't to watch TV on my computer.

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to J. P. Gilliver on Fri Sep 15 16:20:18 2023
    On 15/09/2023 13:45, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    In message <kmimepFnfmeU1@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 15 Sep 2023
    10:28:57, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> writes
    On 15/09/2023 09:42, Brian Gaff wrote:
    What is this increasing use of the press the green button for xxxxx,
    then. I
    get it blurted out during some commercials and programs on my
    Samsung voice,
    and wondered what it was, since selecting green seems to do nothing.
    I'm
    guessing its some form of text on screen that the set is unable to
    read.


    On BBC Channels on Freeview a prompt comes up (for a few seconds)
    inviting you to 'Press Green' to start watching the programme from
    the start. Obviously it fires up iplayer automatically, and starts
    playing the programme.

    For those with a suitable set, an internet connection, and the two
    connected together.

    Well, it's not going to appear if you are not equipped with the former
    is it !?

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to J. P. Gilliver on Sat Sep 16 10:06:30 2023
    Yes you can view the red button content on channel 601 or somesuch in many cases. Why is it so hard for the sets to be able to read digital text pages, when the old teletext system had many voice adaptations very very early on.
    My guess is that its being mostly displayed as pictures of text, rather than true ascii characters.
    Brian

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    "J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in message news:$$ILDpU2HFBlFwSS@255soft.uk...
    In message <kmimepFnfmeU1@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 15 Sep 2023
    10:28:57, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> writes
    On 15/09/2023 09:42, Brian Gaff wrote:
    What is this increasing use of the press the green button for xxxxx,
    then. I
    get it blurted out during some commercials and programs on my Samsung
    voice,
    and wondered what it was, since selecting green seems to do nothing. I'm >>> guessing its some form of text on screen that the set is unable to read. >>>

    On BBC Channels on Freeview a prompt comes up (for a few seconds) inviting >>you to 'Press Green' to start watching the programme from the start. >>Obviously it fires up iplayer automatically, and starts playing the >>programme.

    For those with a suitable set, an internet connection, and the two
    connected together. I've given up being fed up at "press red to view on iplayer", or rather commenting on it - it still irritates me no end.
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  • From Roderick Stewart@21:1/5 to stephen.wolstenholme@outlook.com on Sat Sep 16 09:54:22 2023
    On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 15:52:20 +0100, Stephen Wolstenholme <stephen.wolstenholme@outlook.com> wrote:

    On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 14:26:08 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
    <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

    In message <kmj30eFpck0U1@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 15 Sep 2023
    14:03:11, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes
    J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    I've given up being fed up at "press red to view on iplayer", or >>>>rather commenting on it - it still irritates me no end.

    Red button is also the (only?) way to be allowed into 4K/UHD versions
    of programmes ...

    Presumably red button AND an internet-connected TV - certainly on
    FreeView, I don't think any 4K/UHD is broadcast. But at least I've not >>heard voice telling me to press red for 4K/UHD, whereas they're >>_constantly_ saying it for iplayer.

    I have tried the red button. It produces a menu but the iplayer does
    not work. I assume an internet "smart" TV is needed. It works OK on a >computer connection but I don't to watch TV on my computer.

    Plug a streaming device into your TV and you'll be able to watch
    broadcast TV and a million other things in whatever resolution is
    available without any extra coloured buttons at all.

    Rod.

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Sat Sep 16 10:20:21 2023
    OK so does any broadcaster use the yellow and blue buttons? Any suggestions
    for what they could be used for?I could make some silly ones. Blue for porn
    and yellow voting on the currently watched program, ie Yellow for custard
    tart thrown.
    Brian

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    "Mark Carver" <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:kmjb1iFq9m2U1@mid.individual.net...
    On 15/09/2023 13:45, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    In message <kmimepFnfmeU1@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 15 Sep 2023
    10:28:57, Mark Carver <mark.carver@invalid.invalid> writes
    On 15/09/2023 09:42, Brian Gaff wrote:
    What is this increasing use of the press the green button for xxxxx,
    then. I
    get it blurted out during some commercials and programs on my Samsung
    voice,
    and wondered what it was, since selecting green seems to do nothing.
    I'm
    guessing its some form of text on screen that the set is unable to
    read.


    On BBC Channels on Freeview a prompt comes up (for a few seconds)
    inviting you to 'Press Green' to start watching the programme from the
    start. Obviously it fires up iplayer automatically, and starts playing
    the programme.

    For those with a suitable set, an internet connection, and the two
    connected together.

    Well, it's not going to appear if you are not equipped with the former is
    it !?

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to Stephen Wolstenholme on Sat Sep 16 10:15:21 2023
    It won't read thee menu on my Samsung which is a 2020 model and has recently updated its firmware. I understand you have to update some apps, but since
    the red button app is standard it cannot read it so to use it you first need
    to get sighted help to create an account on Samsungs tv app store, then download the latest apps which of course may or not work any better than the one you have.
    These manufacturers, and app writers need to get their heads together and decide on a standard for the accessibility of said add ons and stick to it, after all on the web you don't get this, if a screenreader can read a web
    site it can read the online system to play the content. Then we hit the different ways in which you select audio description on each site, and some don't bother at all.
    The whole thing is a bit of a mess.
    Brian

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    "Stephen Wolstenholme" <stephen.wolstenholme@outlook.com> wrote in message news:rkq8gi9icu8keju9780cca3bgr3cmgbrj3@4ax.com...
    On Fri, 15 Sep 2023 14:26:08 +0100, "J. P. Gilliver"
    <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

    In message <kmj30eFpck0U1@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 15 Sep 2023
    14:03:11, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes
    J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    I've given up being fed up at "press red to view on iplayer", or >>>>rather commenting on it - it still irritates me no end.

    Red button is also the (only?) way to be allowed into 4K/UHD versions
    of programmes ...

    Presumably red button AND an internet-connected TV - certainly on
    FreeView, I don't think any 4K/UHD is broadcast. But at least I've not >>heard voice telling me to press red for 4K/UHD, whereas they're >>_constantly_ saying it for iplayer.

    I have tried the red button. It produces a menu but the iplayer does
    not work. I assume an internet "smart" TV is needed. It works OK on a computer connection but I don't to watch TV on my computer.


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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to J. P. Gilliver on Sat Sep 16 10:23:19 2023
    Not for me it won't do anything. I suspect the app it is using is not
    working with samsungs screen voicing feature. It could be that I'd need to update the app, but to do that needs sight and a Samsung account and
    password which seems to talk not very well on my paired Bluetooth keyboard.
    I do wish companies could get over this problem of not being able to use the smart features in full with audio feedback. It seems to be the same no
    matter what set you have, so you might have to buy a semi intelligent one
    and use an Amazon firestick or cube with it as they do allow updates, but
    that is yet another remote control.The Samsung already has two to start
    with!

    Brian

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    In message <kmj30eFpck0U1@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 15 Sep 2023
    14:03:11, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes
    J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    I've given up being fed up at "press red to view on iplayer", or rather >>> commenting on it - it still irritates me no end.

    Red button is also the (only?) way to be allowed into 4K/UHD versions of >>programmes ...

    Presumably red button AND an internet-connected TV - certainly on
    FreeView, I don't think any 4K/UHD is broadcast. But at least I've not
    heard voice telling me to press red for 4K/UHD, whereas they're
    _constantly_ saying it for iplayer.
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  • From Andy Burns@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Sat Sep 16 12:13:19 2023
    Brian Gaff wrote:

    does any broadcaster use the yellow and blue buttons?

    At one point, the blue button was used from BBC FOUR to display a test card.

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@21:1/5 to All on Sat Sep 16 19:54:51 2023
    In message <rkq8gi9icu8keju9780cca3bgr3cmgbrj3@4ax.com> at Fri, 15 Sep
    2023 15:52:20, Stephen Wolstenholme <stephen.wolstenholme@outlook.com>
    writes
    []
    I have tried the red button. It produces a menu but the iplayer does
    not work. I assume an internet "smart" TV is needed. It works OK on a >computer connection but I don't to watch TV on my computer.

    Smart, and actually connected - i. e. you need a capable TV, and an
    internet connection, and to have connected your TV to your connection.
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