• That Were-rabbit ...

    From J. P. Gilliver (John)@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 24 17:51:36 2021
    (BBC1, 15:10 today.)
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00gd1rn says it's "1 hour, 16 minutes"
    (and it is, plus 9 seconds). But https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_%26_Gromit:_The_Curse_of_the_Were-Rabbit says 85 minutes, and https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0312004/ says "1h
    25min".

    Even allowing for 24/25 for film on UK TV, that seems rather a big
    difference - thoughts, anyone? (I wasn't _aware_ of any obvious
    omission.)
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to G6JPG@255soft.uk on Sun Oct 24 18:29:00 2021
    "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in message news:iJg41+aY8YdhFwTl@255soft.uk...
    (BBC1, 15:10 today.)
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00gd1rn says it's "1 hour, 16 minutes"
    (and it is, plus 9 seconds). But https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_%26_Gromit:_The_Curse_of_the_Were-Rabbit
    says 85 minutes, and https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0312004/ says "1h
    25min".

    Even allowing for 24/25 for film on UK TV, that seems rather a big
    difference - thoughts, anyone? (I wasn't _aware_ of any obvious omission.)

    Maybe it had a few adult jokes and sight gags removed for a daytime
    audience - such as the rabbit at the village fair which modestly hides its nether regions behind a box... labelled "May Contain Nuts".

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  • From J. P. Gilliver (John)@21:1/5 to me@privacy.invalid on Sun Oct 24 19:05:39 2021
    On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 at 18:29:00, NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote (my
    responses usually follow points raised):
    "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in message >news:iJg41+aY8YdhFwTl@255soft.uk...
    (BBC1, 15:10 today.)
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00gd1rn says it's "1 hour, 16
    minutes" (and it is, plus 9 seconds). But

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_%26_Gromit:_The_Curse_of_the_Were >>-Rabbit
    says 85 minutes, and https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0312004/ says "1h >>25min".

    Even allowing for 24/25 for film on UK TV, that seems rather a big >>difference - thoughts, anyone? (I wasn't _aware_ of any obvious
    omission.)

    Maybe it had a few adult jokes and sight gags removed for a daytime
    audience - such as the rabbit at the village fair which modestly hides
    its nether regions behind a box... labelled "May Contain Nuts".

    Hmm, plausible - though the above BBC page, like most similar, lists
    earlier showings, and I've only ever seen the film on TV, and _have_
    seen those gags - do you think they edit the page prior to an afternoon showing?

    (And - I've just checked; that particular sight gag is still there in
    the BBC version, at 1:13:07.)
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    (please reply to group - they also serve who only look and lurk)
    (William Allen, 1999 - after Milton, of course)

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  • From Gerard K@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 24 11:22:48 2021
    On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 7:08:02 PM UTC+1, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:
    On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 at 18:29:00, NY <m...@privacy.invalid> wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
    "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6...@255soft.uk> wrote in message >news:iJg41+aY...@255soft.uk...
    (BBC1, 15:10 today.)
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00gd1rn says it's "1 hour, 16
    minutes" (and it is, plus 9 seconds). But

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wallace_%26_Gromit:_The_Curse_of_the_Were >>-Rabbit
    says 85 minutes, and https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0312004/ says "1h >>25min".

    Even allowing for 24/25 for film on UK TV, that seems rather a big >>difference - thoughts, anyone? (I wasn't _aware_ of any obvious >>omission.)

    Maybe it had a few adult jokes and sight gags removed for a daytime >audience - such as the rabbit at the village fair which modestly hides
    its nether regions behind a box... labelled "May Contain Nuts".
    Hmm, plausible - though the above BBC page, like most similar, lists
    earlier showings, and I've only ever seen the film on TV, and _have_
    seen those gags - do you think they edit the page prior to an afternoon showing?

    (And - I've just checked; that particular sight gag is still there in
    the BBC version, at 1:13:07.)
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf (please reply to group - they also serve who only look and lurk)
    (William Allen, 1999 - after Milton, of course)


    Could it be that the end credits are heavily truncated? I have noticed for a long time time now that (for movies being broadcast) the BBC and other mainstream channels run
    the end credits speeded up considerably. That would shorten the running time by maybe
    another 2 or 3 minutes. I don't know whether the same would apply to the iplayer version
    though.

    Gerard.

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  • From J. P. Gilliver (John)@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 24 20:15:25 2021
    On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 at 11:22:48, Gerard K <scotsmandrareg@gmail.com>
    wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
    On Sunday, October 24, 2021 at 7:08:02 PM UTC+1, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote: >> On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 at 18:29:00, NY <m...@privacy.invalid> wrote (my
    responses usually follow points raised):
    "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6...@255soft.uk> wrote in message
    news:iJg41+aY...@255soft.uk...
    (BBC1, 15:10 today.)
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00gd1rn says it's "1 hour, 16
    []
    says 85 minutes, and https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0312004/ says "1h
    25min".
    []
    Maybe it had a few adult jokes and sight gags removed for a daytime
    audience - such as the rabbit at the village fair which modestly hides
    its nether regions behind a box... labelled "May Contain Nuts".
    Hmm, plausible - though the above BBC page, like most similar, lists
    earlier showings, and I've only ever seen the film on TV, and _have_
    seen those gags - do you think they edit the page prior to an afternoon
    showing?

    (And - I've just checked; that particular sight gag is still there in
    the BBC version, at 1:13:07.)
    []
    24/25 of 85 is 81.6, so we've got over 5 minutes (81.6-76) to account
    for.

    Could it be that the end credits are heavily truncated? I have noticed for a >long time time now that (for movies being broadcast) the BBC and other >mainstream channels run
    the end credits speeded up considerably. That would shorten the running
    time by maybe
    another 2 or 3 minutes. I don't know whether the same would apply to
    the iplayer version
    though.

    Hmm, I think you may have it - the end credits are about 51 seconds,
    which seems short. Though only partly - I think 6 minutes would have
    been rather long.

    Gerard.

    John
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    All I ask is to _prove_ that money can't make me happy.

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to G6JPG@255soft.uk on Sun Oct 24 21:51:45 2021
    "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in message news:fU1ni3iNDbdhFwFT@255soft.uk...
    On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 at 11:22:48, Gerard K <scotsmandrareg@gmail.com>
    Could it be that the end credits are heavily truncated? I have noticed for >>a
    long time time now that (for movies being broadcast) the BBC and other >>mainstream channels run
    the end credits speeded up considerably. That would shorten the running >>time by maybe
    another 2 or 3 minutes. I don't know whether the same would apply to the >>iplayer version
    though.

    Hmm, I think you may have it - the end credits are about 51 seconds, which seems short. Though only partly - I think 6 minutes would have been rather long.

    I've just checked our DVD. The overall film has a run-time of 1:21:08 and
    the credits (from after the "THE END" caption to the Aardman credit) is
    6:37. So the difference is 6:37 - 0:51 = 5:46. I think we have our answer.

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  • From J. P. Gilliver (John)@21:1/5 to me@privacy.invalid on Sun Oct 24 23:32:47 2021
    On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 at 21:51:45, NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote (my
    responses usually follow points raised):
    "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote in message >news:fU1ni3iNDbdhFwFT@255soft.uk...
    On Sun, 24 Oct 2021 at 11:22:48, Gerard K <scotsmandrareg@gmail.com> >>>Could it be that the end credits are heavily truncated? I have
    noticed for a
    long time time now that (for movies being broadcast) the BBC and
    other mainstream channels run
    the end credits speeded up considerably. That would shorten the
    running time by maybe
    another 2 or 3 minutes. I don't know whether the same would apply to
    the iplayer version
    though.

    Hmm, I think you may have it - the end credits are about 51 seconds,
    which seems short. Though only partly - I think 6 minutes would have
    been rather long.

    I've just checked our DVD. The overall film has a run-time of 1:21:08
    and the credits (from after the "THE END" caption to the Aardman
    credit) is 6:37. So the difference is 6:37 - 0:51 = 5:46. I think we
    have our answer.

    Looks like it!
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Every kid starts out as a natural-born scientist, and then we beat it out of them. A few trickle through the system with their wonder and enthusiasm for science intact. - Carl Sagan (interview w. Psychology Today published '96-1-1)

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  • From NY@21:1/5 to All on Mon Oct 25 09:45:35 2021
    "Liz Tuddenham" <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:1phllto.ddzx6q165mjbkN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid...
    J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

    - the end credits are about 51 seconds,
    which seems short. Though only partly - I think 6 minutes would have
    been rather long.

    When "Morris: A Life with Bells On" was screened at the Little Theatre
    in Bath, the audience sat silently in their seats for the entire credits (there were a lot of them) and then burst into applause. I don't think
    many films would achieve that.

    Likewise when I went to see Shine (with Geoffrey Rush). That may have been partly because of the electrifying effect of the operatic aria "Nulla In
    Mundo Pax Sincera" which plays over the credits.

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  • From Liz Tuddenham@21:1/5 to G6JPG@255soft.uk on Mon Oct 25 09:20:59 2021
    J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

    - the end credits are about 51 seconds,
    which seems short. Though only partly - I think 6 minutes would have
    been rather long.

    When "Morris: A Life with Bells On" was screened at the Little Theatre
    in Bath, the audience sat silently in their seats for the entire credits
    (there were a lot of them) and then burst into applause. I don't think
    many films would achieve that.


    --
    ~ Liz Tuddenham ~
    (Remove the ".invalid"s and add ".co.uk" to reply)
    www.poppyrecords.co.uk

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  • From J. P. Gilliver (John)@21:1/5 to me@privacy.invalid on Mon Oct 25 12:25:50 2021
    On Mon, 25 Oct 2021 at 09:45:35, NY <me@privacy.invalid> wrote (my
    responses usually follow points raised):
    "Liz Tuddenham" <liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid> wrote in message >news:1phllto.ddzx6q165mjbkN%liz@poppyrecords.invalid.invalid...
    J. P. Gilliver (John) <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:

    - the end credits are about 51 seconds,
    which seems short. Though only partly - I think 6 minutes would have
    been rather long.

    When "Morris: A Life with Bells On" was screened at the Little Theatre
    in Bath, the audience sat silently in their seats for the entire credits
    (there were a lot of them) and then burst into applause. I don't think
    many films would achieve that.

    Likewise when I went to see Shine (with Geoffrey Rush). That may have
    been partly because of the electrifying effect of the operatic aria
    "Nulla In Mundo Pax Sincera" which plays over the credits.

    Though I think I have experienced it for other films, the one I remember
    best for getting applause at the end was the 50th (I think) anniversary
    showing of Casablanca, at the Empire, Leicester Square. (Bit of the Marseillaise there helped of course.)
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Never raise your hand to your children. It leaves your mid-section unprotected

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