Has Radio 2 started to use the RDS flags for Travel News?
I was driving up the A82 alongside Loch Lomond on Monday. A Travl News report came on, it seemed to be for somewhere near Stoke so I thought it
must just be a bit of ANAPROP.
But then looked across at the radio and I am sure it read something like "Radio 2 Travel Information".
Also realised I was sure it was the irritating, camp Travel News reader
from Radio 2.
A bit later it briefly indicated "Radio 2 Travel News Information" again
but failed to switch over properly.
On Wed 26/07/2023 09:36, MB wrote:
Has Radio 2 started to use the RDS flags for Travel News?
I was driving up the A82 alongside Loch Lomond on Monday. A Travl
News report came on, it seemed to be for somewhere near Stoke so I
thought it must just be a bit of ANAPROP.
But then looked across at the radio and I am sure it read something
like "Radio 2 Travel Information".
Also realised I was sure it was the irritating, camp Travel News
reader from Radio 2.
A bit later it briefly indicated "Radio 2 Travel News Information"
again but failed to switch over properly.
More to the point, what has happened to travel via RDS and EON (plus
DAB data).
We drove from Harrogate to Frome a few weeks ago. We got Greatest Hits Yorkshire travel bulletion just as we got onto the A1(M) at J47 (A59)
then not a sausage until we heard BBC Wilts then BBC Somerset. Coming
back a few days later exactly the same (opposite sequence of course)
but with just one C&W thrown in.
Today we have been up to Bishop Auckland and we got just one bulletin
from BBC York just before we got home. Normally here we can get York,
Leeds, often Sheffield, and Tees - so where have the rest gone??
strikes at the stations, and BBC regional TV
More to the point, what has happened to travel via RDS and EON (plus DAB data).
On 26/07/2023 16:57, Woody wrote:
More to the point, what has happened to travel via RDS and EON (plus DAB data).
I hear them occasionally but not often.
Not sure about DAB data, a text message is not much use when driving.
In article <u9s0lv$1janb$1@dont-email.me>,
MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 26/07/2023 16:57, Woody wrote:
More to the point, what has happened to travel via RDS and EON (plus DAB >>> data).
I hear them occasionally but not often.
Not sure about DAB data, a text message is not much use when driving.
My Skoda reads text messages to me.
On 26/07/2023 16:57, Woody wrote:
More to the point, what has happened to travel via RDS and EON (plus DAB
data).
I hear them occasionally but not often.
Not sure about DAB data, a text message is not much use when driving.
Mark Carver wrote:
strikes at the stations, and BBC regional TV
Had genuinely not noticed ...
<https://www.nuj.org.uk/resource/keepbbclocalradiolocal.html>
On Wed 26/07/2023 09:36, MB wrote:
Has Radio 2 started to use the RDS flags for Travel News?
I was driving up the A82 alongside Loch Lomond on Monday. A Travl News
report came on, it seemed to be for somewhere near Stoke so I thought it
must just be a bit of ANAPROP.
But then looked across at the radio and I am sure it read something like
"Radio 2 Travel Information".
Also realised I was sure it was the irritating, camp Travel News reader
from Radio 2.
A bit later it briefly indicated "Radio 2 Travel News Information" again
but failed to switch over properly.
More to the point, what has happened to travel via RDS and EON (plus DAB data).
We drove from Harrogate to Frome a few weeks ago. We got Greatest Hits Yorkshire travel bulletion just as we got onto the A1(M) at J47 (A59) then not a sausage until we heard BBC Wilts then BBC Somerset. Coming back a
few days later exactly the same (opposite sequence of course) but with
just one C&W thrown in.
Today we have been up to Bishop Auckland and we got just one bulletin from BBC York just before we got home. Normally here we can get York, Leeds,
often Sheffield, and Tees - so where have the rest gone??
On 26/07/2023 16:57, Woody wrote:
On Wed 26/07/2023 09:36, MB wrote:BBC Local Radio has been emasculated of localness, and is being turned
Has Radio 2 started to use the RDS flags for Travel News?
I was driving up the A82 alongside Loch Lomond on Monday. A Travl News
report came on, it seemed to be for somewhere near Stoke so I thought it >>> must just be a bit of ANAPROP.
But then looked across at the radio and I am sure it read something like >>> "Radio 2 Travel Information".
Also realised I was sure it was the irritating, camp Travel News reader
from Radio 2.
A bit later it briefly indicated "Radio 2 Travel News Information" again >>> but failed to switch over properly.
More to the point, what has happened to travel via RDS and EON (plus DAB
data).
We drove from Harrogate to Frome a few weeks ago. We got Greatest Hits
Yorkshire travel bulletion just as we got onto the A1(M) at J47 (A59)
then not a sausage until we heard BBC Wilts then BBC Somerset. Coming
back a few days later exactly the same (opposite sequence of course) but
with just one C&W thrown in.
Today we have been up to Bishop Auckland and we got just one bulletin
from BBC York just before we got home. Normally here we can get York,
Leeds, often Sheffield, and Tees - so where have the rest gone??
into a quasi national service.
Hence all the recent strikes at the stations, and BBC regional TV
Economised out of the picture I'd imagine.
Everyone assumes you get it from other sources these days as most cars have
the internet.
Brian
I doubt very much whether most cars have the Internet.
On 27/07/2023 12:24, Brian Gaff wrote:
Everyone assumes you get it from other sources these days as most cars
have
the internet.
I doubt very much whether most cars have the Internet.
Everyone assumes you get it from other sources these days as most cars have the internet.
John Williamson wrote:
I use the traffic information overlay on Google Maps on my phone to
avoid severe holdups, and I have noticed that a lot of drivers seem to
be doing the same as the rat runs it comes up with are now approaching
the same journey times as the delayed routes.
The info is live, and updated every minute or so from location data
automatically supplied by users.
Or you can use a bunch of phones to fake a snarl-up ...
<https://www.boredpanda.com/fake-traffic-jam-99-smartphones-google-maps-simon-weckert>
I use the traffic information overlay on Google Maps on my phone to
avoid severe holdups, and I have noticed that a lot of drivers seem to
be doing the same as the rat runs it comes up with are now approaching
the same journey times as the delayed routes.
The info is live, and updated every minute or so from location data automatically supplied by users.
Very many drivers now have access to the internet. I use the traffic information overlay on Google Maps on my phone to avoid severe holdups,
and I have noticed that a lot of drivers seem to be doing the same as
the rat runs it comes up with are now approaching the same journey times
as the delayed routes.
You might be surprised, since 2018 cars are required to detect
collisions and make an automatic call to an emergency assistance centre (e-Call), my 2017 car has it.
On 27/07/2023 20:05, Andy Burns wrote:
You might be surprised, since 2018 cars are required to detect
collisions and make an automatic call to an emergency assistance
centre (e-Call), my 2017 car has it.
My car has that (I pushed the button once when trying to find the light switch). But it is not the same as 'having the Internet'.
VW cars have Car-Net which gives limited access to a few things but
never been able to find what network it uses, occasionally there is a
message to indicate that it is connected to something but most of the
time not connected. It also connects to my WiFi when parked outside so
I can send locations to the Sat Nav - it is a poor system though, it
appears to store the location in the car and on their server but when
you delete one, the other is left which can mean the memory is full even
if only a handful of locations stored. Deleting locations is a real PITA!
Andy Burns wrote:
since 2018 cars are required to detect collisions and make an
automatic call to an emergency assistance centre (e-Call)
My car has that (I pushed the button once when trying to find the light switch). But it is not the same as 'having the Internet'.
VW cars have Car-Net which gives limited access to a few things but
never been able to find what network it uses
occasionally there is a
message to indicate that it is connected to something but most of the
time not connected. It also connects to my WiFi when parked outside so
I can send locations to the Sat Nav - it is a poor system though, it
appears to store the location in the car and on their server but when
you delete one, the other is left which can mean the memory is full even
if only a handful of locations stored. Deleting locations is a real PITA!
Most seem to do it my linking to their mobile phone so the vehicle
itself does not have a connection to the Internet.
Does the "car's own satnav" get updates, traffic info., etc., or is it
just preloaded maps like you get with any cheap satnav unit?
MB wrote:
Most seem to do it my linking to their mobile phone so the vehicle
itself does not have a connection to the Internet.
I think I have the option to do the reverse (let the car use the
phone's SIM) but there was a downside to that, something like Android
Auto could no longer use data, can't remember now, so yes I mostly use
the phone's data not the car's. I use google maps on the car's screen
most of the time, but do have the option of using the car's own satnav,
but it's clunkier.
In message <kihbp2Fm80kU3@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 28 Jul 2023
09:15:30, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes
MB wrote:
Most seem to do it my linking to their mobile phone so the vehicle >>itself does not have a connection to the Internet.
I think I have the option to do the reverse (let the car use the
phone's SIM) but there was a downside to that, something like Android
Auto could no longer use data, can't remember now, so yes I mostly use
the phone's data not the car's. I use google maps on the car's screen >most of the time, but do have the option of using the car's own satnav,
but it's clunkier.
Does the "car's own satnav" get updates, traffic info., etc., or is it
just preloaded maps like you get with any cheap satnav unit?
In article <sKtN656$c4wkFwuL@255soft.uk>,
J. P. Gilliver <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
In message <kihbp2Fm80kU3@mid.individual.net> at Fri, 28 Jul 2023On my Skoda I get live traffic info on the built-in SatNav
09:15:30, Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> writes
MB wrote:Does the "car's own satnav" get updates, traffic info., etc., or is it
Most seem to do it my linking to their mobile phone so the vehicleI think I have the option to do the reverse (let the car use the
itself does not have a connection to the Internet.
phone's SIM) but there was a downside to that, something like Android
Auto could no longer use data, can't remember now, so yes I mostly use
the phone's data not the car's. I use google maps on the car's screen
most of the time, but do have the option of using the car's own satnav,
but it's clunkier.
just preloaded maps like you get with any cheap satnav unit?
On 28/07/2023 10:15, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
Does the "car's own satnav" get updates, traffic info., etc., or is it
just preloaded maps like you get with any cheap satnav unit?
My VW does not get map updates online, I believe that was added on a
later version.
You can download the maps free from their website and then transfer to
the car Sat Nav but I never managed to get it to work. You also can
only transfer to a genuine VW memory card so if you screw things up then
you could lose your maps.
Does the "car's own satnav" get updates
traffic info
etc., or is it just preloaded maps like you get with any cheap satnavIt's a couple of years out of date now, some of its speed-limits are now
unit?
J. P. Gilliver wrote:
Does the "car's own satnav" get updates
It previously got the annual map updates over 4G, but it's no longer
entitled to those.
traffic info
It can display google's red/amber traffic status overlay, I don't
remember if it ever did offer re-routing around problems.
etc., or is it just preloaded maps like you get with any cheap satnavIt's a couple of years out of date now, some of its speed-limits are
unit?
now wrong, but I don't drive anywhere than new roads are missing yet.
John Williamson wrote:<https://aubtu.biz/22-weird-yet-funny-things-found-on-google-maps-thatll-make-you-burst-into-laughter>
I use the traffic information overlay on Google Maps on my phone to
avoid severe holdups, and I have noticed that a lot of drivers seem to
be doing the same as the rat runs it comes up with are now approaching
the same journey times as the delayed routes.
The info is live, and updated every minute or so from location data automatically supplied by users.Or you can use a bunch of phones to fake a snarl-up ...
<https://www.boredpanda.com/fake-traffic-jam-99-smartphones-google-maps-simon-weckert>
On 26/07/2023 16:57, Woody wrote:And me too....I also heard this news <https://aubtu.biz/22-weird-yet-funny-things-found-on-google-maps-thatll-make-you-burst-into-laughter>
More to the point, what has happened to travel via RDS and EON (plus DAB data).I hear them occasionally but not often.
Not sure about DAB data, a text message is not much use when driving.
In message <kiju8v...@mid.individual.net> at Sat, 29 Jul 2023
08:43:28, Andy Burns <use...@andyburns.uk> writes
J. P. Gilliver wrote:
Does the "car's own satnav" get updates
It previously got the annual map updates over 4G, but it's no longer >entitled to those.Ah, so it has the hardware; that's what I was trying to establish.
traffic info
It can display google's red/amber traffic status overlay, I don'tSo the link is still operational (unless it's getting that information
remember if it ever did offer re-routing around problems.
from DAB or RDS which I think unlikely).
etc., or is it just preloaded maps like you get with any cheap satnavIt's a couple of years out of date now, some of its speed-limits are
unit?
now wrong, but I don't drive anywhere than new roads are missing yet.
Have you been told they could be if you pay a limb?
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
No. I demur. Let it [the Royal Variety Performance] glitter ridiculously on, to
affirm that other people's pleasures, even ghastly ones, are part of the great
mouldy patchwork clown-trouser of the nation. - Libby Purves, rt 2022/12/17-23
More to the point, what has happened to travel via RDS and EON (plus DAB data).
We drove from Harrogate to Frome a few weeks ago. We got Greatest Hits Yorkshire travel bulletion just as we got onto the A1(M) at J47 (A59)
then not a sausage until we heard BBC Wilts then BBC Somerset. Coming
back a few days later exactly the same (opposite sequence of course) but
with just one C&W thrown in.
I sent a mail to BBC Complaints and their attitude was that it had to be
a receiver fault despite the fact that (1) I told them I am a retired broadcast transmitter engineer so I know what I am talking about, and
(2) that it was the same in our last car (Passat Estate) as it is now in
our Skoda Karoq (new 9/22.)
Curiously traffic news on both BBC R York and BBC R Leeds (our locals)
seem to have suddenly reappeared.
On 26/07/2023 16:57, Woody wrote:
More to the point, what has happened to travel via RDS and EON (plus
DAB data).
We drove from Harrogate to Frome a few weeks ago. We got Greatest Hits
Yorkshire travel bulletion just as we got onto the A1(M) at J47 (A59)
then not a sausage until we heard BBC Wilts then BBC Somerset. Coming
back a few days later exactly the same (opposite sequence of course)
but with just one C&W thrown in.
Certainly seem to be less being heard from Radio Scotland, this was a
week ago from a friend.
"The A82, A83 & A85 are all closed due to flooding / landslips but Radio
Scot only mentioned a few restricted roads in Ayrshire and around Glasgow.
R. Scot is supposed to be the source of information in adverse weather
but there will be no more travel bulletins for the rest of the afternoon (even if they are a waste of time)."
"Everything in Argyll south of Loch Creran and west of Loch Fyne
including Jura & Islay has been cut off for over 24 hours now but hardly
a word in the news.
A national emergency would have been declared if it happened south of Watford!"
I certainly did not hear any travel news that weekend even though I had
to stay in a hotel overnight because of a blocked road.
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