• DAB 11D

    From wrightsaerials@f2s.com@21:1/5 to All on Mon May 29 19:06:50 2023
    Is the Digital 1 DAB mux on 11D actually a SFN? It doesn't seem to work as one in the area covered by both Emley Moor and Belmont.
    Bill

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to wrightsaerials@aol.com on Tue May 30 11:15:03 2023
    On 30/05/2023 03:06, wrightsaerials@aol.com wrote:
    Is the Digital 1 DAB mux on 11D actually a SFN? It doesn't seem to work as one in the area covered by both Emley Moor and Belmont.
    Bill
    I would suspect the current lift conditions, bringing in a more distant
    11D transmitter from beyond the magic 78km away, or (less likely) either
    Emley or Belmont's 11D transmitters have lost their GPS timing ref.

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  • From wrightsaerials@f2s.com@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Tue May 30 03:58:59 2023
    On Tuesday, 30 May 2023 at 11:15:05 UTC+1, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 30/05/2023 03:06, wrights...@aol.com wrote:
    Is the Digital 1 DAB mux on 11D actually a SFN? It doesn't seem to work as one in the area covered by both Emley Moor and Belmont.
    Bill
    I would suspect the current lift conditions, bringing in a more distant
    11D transmitter from beyond the magic 78km away, or (less likely) either Emley or Belmont's 11D transmitters have lost their GPS timing ref.
    Hi Mark, as you know I am enamoured of a fair matron of Lincoln, so I have been travelling back and forth a lot since November. Reception of the 11D stations has never been good. It's OK in North Hykeham (where there's very little Emley UHF but usable
    Waltham and Belmont) but once I get into Doddington and the nearby tree-lined rural roads it's very poor. It drops out in all the villages between Torksey and Gainsborough, and in Gainsborough itself. Also in Bawtry and Tickhill. I must try to take note
    of what happens around Gringley, where Emley is completely screened. The BBC mux is solid for the whole journey. (incidentally I listened to Round the Horne on R4ex yesterday and I'm surprised wokery didn't prevent its transmission. It was absolutely
    hilarious.)

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to wrightsaerials@aol.com on Tue May 30 12:36:49 2023
    On 30/05/2023 11:58, wrightsaerials@aol.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, 30 May 2023 at 11:15:05 UTC+1, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 30/05/2023 03:06, wrights...@aol.com wrote:
    Is the Digital 1 DAB mux on 11D actually a SFN? It doesn't seem to work as one in the area covered by both Emley Moor and Belmont.
    Bill
    I would suspect the current lift conditions, bringing in a more distant
    11D transmitter from beyond the magic 78km away, or (less likely) either
    Emley or Belmont's 11D transmitters have lost their GPS timing ref.
    Hi Mark, as you know I am enamoured of a fair matron of Lincoln, so I have been travelling back and forth a lot since November. Reception of the 11D stations has never been good. It's OK in North Hykeham (where there's very little Emley UHF but usable
    Waltham and Belmont) but once I get into Doddington and the nearby tree-lined rural roads it's very poor. It drops out in all the villages between Torksey and Gainsborough, and in Gainsborough itself. Also in Bawtry and Tickhill. I must try to take note
    of what happens around Gringley, where Emley is completely screened. The BBC mux is solid for the whole journey. (incidentally I listened to Round the Horne on R4ex yesterday and I'm surprised wokery didn't prevent its transmission. It was absolutely
    hilarious.)
    Well, D1 (11D) has fewer transmitters than the Beeb, however both muxes
    are transmitted from Emley, High Hunsley, and Belmont, which more or
    less are the sites that serve your route, so I'm surprised D1 is
    noticeably poorer. It might suffer from CCI from across the North Sea
    more than the Beeb mux possibly ?

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  • From Woody@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Tue May 30 17:05:24 2023
    On Tue 30/05/2023 12:36, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 30/05/2023 11:58, wrightsaerials@aol.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, 30 May 2023 at 11:15:05 UTC+1, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 30/05/2023 03:06, wrights...@aol.com wrote:
    Is the Digital 1 DAB mux on 11D actually a SFN? It doesn't seem to
    work as one in the area covered by both Emley Moor and Belmont.
    Bill
    I would suspect the current lift conditions, bringing in a more distant
    11D transmitter from beyond the magic 78km away, or (less likely) either >>> Emley or Belmont's 11D transmitters have lost their GPS timing ref.
    Hi Mark, as you know I am enamoured of a fair matron of Lincoln, so I
    have been travelling back and forth a lot since November. Reception of
    the 11D stations has never been good. It's OK in North Hykeham (where
    there's very little Emley UHF but usable Waltham and Belmont) but once
    I get into Doddington and the nearby tree-lined rural roads it's very
    poor. It drops out in all the villages between Torksey and
    Gainsborough, and in Gainsborough itself. Also in Bawtry and Tickhill.
    I must try to take note of what happens around Gringley, where Emley
    is completely screened. The BBC mux is solid for the whole journey.
    (incidentally I listened to Round the Horne on R4ex yesterday and I'm
    surprised wokery didn't prevent its transmission. It was absolutely
    hilarious.)
    Well, D1 (11D) has fewer transmitters than the Beeb, however both muxes
    are transmitted from Emley, High Hunsley, and Belmont, which more or
    less are the sites that serve your route, so I'm surprised D1 is
    noticeably poorer. It might suffer from CCI from across the North Sea
    more than the Beeb mux possibly ?

    Interestingly D1 appears to be radiated from an Anglia Water tower at
    Clayton Street in Lincoln. I would have expected that to help somewhat?

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  • From Mark Carver@21:1/5 to Woody on Wed May 31 11:00:21 2023
    On 30/05/2023 17:05, Woody wrote:
    On Tue 30/05/2023 12:36, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 30/05/2023 11:58, wrightsaerials@aol.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, 30 May 2023 at 11:15:05 UTC+1, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 30/05/2023 03:06, wrights...@aol.com wrote:
    Is the Digital 1 DAB mux on 11D actually a SFN? It doesn't seem to
    work as one in the area covered by both Emley Moor and Belmont.
    Bill
    I would suspect the current lift conditions, bringing in a more
    distant
    11D transmitter from beyond the magic 78km away, or (less likely)
    either
    Emley or Belmont's 11D transmitters have lost their GPS timing ref.
    Hi Mark, as you know I am enamoured of a fair matron of Lincoln, so
    I have been travelling back and forth a lot since November.
    Reception of the 11D stations has never been good. It's OK in North
    Hykeham (where there's very little Emley UHF but usable Waltham and
    Belmont) but once I get into Doddington and the nearby tree-lined
    rural roads it's very poor. It drops out in all the villages between
    Torksey and Gainsborough, and in Gainsborough itself. Also in Bawtry
    and Tickhill. I must try to take note of what happens around
    Gringley, where Emley is completely screened. The BBC mux is solid
    for the whole journey. (incidentally I listened to Round the Horne
    on R4ex yesterday and I'm surprised wokery didn't prevent its
    transmission. It was absolutely hilarious.)
    Well, D1 (11D) has fewer transmitters than the Beeb, however both
    muxes are transmitted from Emley, High Hunsley, and Belmont, which
    more or less are the sites that serve your route, so I'm surprised D1
    is noticeably poorer. It might suffer from CCI from across the North
    Sea more than the Beeb mux possibly ?

    Interestingly D1 appears to be radiated from an Anglia Water tower at
    Clayton Street in Lincoln. I would have expected that to help somewhat?
    And it carries the Beeb too, so even more mysterious seeing that the
    Beeb and D1 site share everything serving Bill's lurve route ?

    http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/gallerypage.php?txid=2122

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  • From Woody@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Wed May 31 12:59:18 2023
    On Wed 31/05/2023 11:00, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 30/05/2023 17:05, Woody wrote:
    On Tue 30/05/2023 12:36, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 30/05/2023 11:58, wrightsaerials@aol.com wrote:
    On Tuesday, 30 May 2023 at 11:15:05 UTC+1, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 30/05/2023 03:06, wrights...@aol.com wrote:
    Is the Digital 1 DAB mux on 11D actually a SFN? It doesn't seem to >>>>>> work as one in the area covered by both Emley Moor and Belmont.
    Bill
    I would suspect the current lift conditions, bringing in a more
    distant
    11D transmitter from beyond the magic 78km away, or (less likely)
    either
    Emley or Belmont's 11D transmitters have lost their GPS timing ref.
    Hi Mark, as you know I am enamoured of a fair matron of Lincoln, so
    I have been travelling back and forth a lot since November.
    Reception of the 11D stations has never been good. It's OK in North
    Hykeham (where there's very little Emley UHF but usable Waltham and
    Belmont) but once I get into Doddington and the nearby tree-lined
    rural roads it's very poor. It drops out in all the villages between
    Torksey and Gainsborough, and in Gainsborough itself. Also in Bawtry
    and Tickhill. I must try to take note of what happens around
    Gringley, where Emley is completely screened. The BBC mux is solid
    for the whole journey. (incidentally I listened to Round the Horne
    on R4ex yesterday and I'm surprised wokery didn't prevent its
    transmission. It was absolutely hilarious.)
    Well, D1 (11D) has fewer transmitters than the Beeb, however both
    muxes are transmitted from Emley, High Hunsley, and Belmont, which
    more or less are the sites that serve your route, so I'm surprised D1
    is noticeably poorer. It might suffer from CCI from across the North
    Sea more than the Beeb mux possibly ?

    Interestingly D1 appears to be radiated from an Anglia Water tower at
    Clayton Street in Lincoln. I would have expected that to help somewhat?
    And it carries the Beeb too, so even more mysterious seeing that the
    Beeb and D1 site share everything serving Bill's lurve route ?

    http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/gallerypage.php?txid=2122

    I stand corrected. I was not aware of a tall gas tower in Licoln, but
    you live and learn!

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  • From wrightsaerials@f2s.com@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Wed May 31 10:20:03 2023
    On Wednesday, 31 May 2023 at 11:00:24 UTC+1, Mark Carver wrote:

    http://tx.mb21.co.uk/gallery/gallerypage.php?txid=2122
    That explains why reception of 11D is solid in N Hykeham where I visit. It drops out as soon as I get towards Doddington however, unlike the BBC mux.

    Bill

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  • From wrightsaerials@f2s.com@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Wed May 31 10:15:48 2023
    On Tuesday, 30 May 2023 at 12:36:50 UTC+1, Mark Carver wrote:

    Well, D1 (11D) has fewer transmitters than the Beeb, however both muxes
    are transmitted from Emley, High Hunsley, and Belmont, which more or
    less are the sites that serve your route, so I'm surprised D1 is
    noticeably poorer. It might suffer from CCI from across the North Sea
    more than the Beeb mux possibly ?
    Is 11D transmitted at the same power as the BBC mux? There's a very significant difference between the two along my route.
    Bill

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to Mark Carver on Thu Jun 1 09:42:15 2023
    Indeed, the same can be said for Goon Shows. Some have in fact had the
    edited out bits spliced back in. It appears that a lot of the Indian
    references were taken out for the World service.
    Brian

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    On Tuesday, 30 May 2023 at 11:15:05 UTC+1, Mark Carver wrote:
    On 30/05/2023 03:06, wrights...@aol.com wrote:
    Is the Digital 1 DAB mux on 11D actually a SFN? It doesn't seem to work
    as one in the area covered by both Emley Moor and Belmont.
    Bill
    I would suspect the current lift conditions, bringing in a more distant
    11D transmitter from beyond the magic 78km away, or (less likely) either Emley or Belmont's 11D transmitters have lost their GPS timing ref.
    Hi Mark, as you know I am enamoured of a fair matron of Lincoln, so I have
    been travelling back and forth a lot since November. Reception of the 11D stations has never been good. It's OK in North Hykeham (where there's very little Emley UHF but usable Waltham and Belmont) but once I get into
    Doddington and the nearby tree-lined rural roads it's very poor. It drops
    out in all the villages between Torksey and Gainsborough, and in
    Gainsborough itself. Also in Bawtry and Tickhill. I must try to take note of what happens around Gringley, where Emley is completely screened. The BBC
    mux is solid for the whole journey. (incidentally I listened to Round the
    Horne on R4ex yesterday and I'm surprised wokery didn't prevent its transmission. It was absolutely hilarious.)

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Thu Jun 1 16:35:08 2023
    On 01/06/2023 09:42, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Indeed, the same can be said for Goon Shows. Some have in fact had the
    edited out bits spliced back in. It appears that a lot of the Indian references were taken out for the World service.


    Though I suspect most of the Indian community would be happy with them
    being left in, it tends to be sandal wearing, Cayman Island Guardian
    readers who complain.

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