• Streaming content buffering

    From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to All on Fri Apr 28 11:03:43 2023
    Now Virgin Broadband is very fast, and I have no right in saying its got issues, because logs look fine, so where in the world does the buffering
    come from? Ive noticed this on streams of audio or video direct connected to the router by wire, and from all over the world. Are there just some
    overloaded parts of the web that cause this, is it perhaps being buffered or routed into limbo?
    The effect this end is the same, either no connection or gaps in the stream
    or complete drop but needing reselection.
    If its doing this now, with the use of streaming content seemingly the way both radio and TV are going, is it all not going to hit the buffers soon whereby it is completely over subscribed, just like the old dial up days
    when you could not get a line.
    Brian

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  • From Adrian Caspersz@21:1/5 to Brian Gaff on Fri Apr 28 12:07:15 2023
    On 28/04/2023 11:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Now Virgin Broadband is very fast, and I have no right in saying its got issues, because logs look fine, so where in the world does the buffering
    come from?
    * Network Contention issues resulting in latency - late packets, spotty
    kids playing games etc...
    * Traffic management failing ...
    * Discarded late night kebab and related unmentionables left in wide
    open street cabinet unlocked twenty years ago, showing unexpected new electrical properties...

    It's Virgin, other broadband providers are not affected.

    Which is why you see TV ads from BT making a point of their service
    _not_ buffering, and also Sky having the lowest number of user
    complaints about their broadband service?

    I personally wouldn't touch them with a bargepole, however does depend
    on your local area. Some users do have a good experience elsewhere, and
    crap results delivered from BT (which usually can be sorted)

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  • From Roderick Stewart@21:1/5 to email@here.invalid on Fri Apr 28 14:06:13 2023
    On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 12:07:15 +0100, Adrian Caspersz
    <email@here.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/04/2023 11:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Now Virgin Broadband is very fast, and I have no right in saying its got
    issues, because logs look fine, so where in the world does the buffering
    come from?
    [...]
    It's Virgin, other broadband providers are not affected.

    No problems with Zen either.

    Except occasional buffering with BBC iPlayer, and sometimes fuzzy
    pictures for the first few seconds of a programme, no doubt checking
    capacity to negotiate the best resolution. I haven't seen this on the
    other online services, just iPlayer. I've seen it with both an Nvidia
    Shield and two different Amazon Fire sticks, and my connection is
    100/20 FTTP so it's definitely the BBC and not me.

    Rod.

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to Adrian Caspersz on Sun Apr 30 11:16:36 2023
    No its not Virgin green cabinets issues, or it would be a break in the
    stream and be on the logs.
    No its somewhere else. I did find some issues last night where the Alexa servers kept disappearing whereas other streams on a tv were OK foom Samsung TV.
    Brian

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    "Adrian Caspersz" <email@here.invalid> wrote in message news:kb1nn3Fl2dU1@mid.individual.net...
    On 28/04/2023 11:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Now Virgin Broadband is very fast, and I have no right in saying its got
    issues, because logs look fine, so where in the world does the buffering
    come from?
    * Network Contention issues resulting in latency - late packets, spotty
    kids playing games etc...
    * Traffic management failing ...
    * Discarded late night kebab and related unmentionables left in wide open street cabinet unlocked twenty years ago, showing unexpected new
    electrical properties...

    It's Virgin, other broadband providers are not affected.

    Which is why you see TV ads from BT making a point of their service _not_ buffering, and also Sky having the lowest number of user complaints about their broadband service?

    I personally wouldn't touch them with a bargepole, however does depend on your local area. Some users do have a good experience elsewhere, and crap results delivered from BT (which usually can be sorted)

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  • From Brian Gaff@21:1/5 to Roderick Stewart on Sun Apr 30 11:22:13 2023
    No it could be that there is some kind of slow connection that means slow optimisation. I don't much care about pictures, I care about connectivity.
    The fact that it can affect low bandwidth audio and at other times video,
    seems to point to routing issues somewhere. Its interesting sometimes to try and find where the servers actually are. There does seem to be a bottleneck
    in the souuth of north America, even though the actual final server might be here in Europe. I guess bandwidth changes by the time of day, so it might actually be that capacity is better going around the world to come back than going direct.

    Brian

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    "Roderick Stewart" <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote in message news:tkgn4i96rfggiihin8cmj5lj2ledi6j4sd@4ax.com...
    On Fri, 28 Apr 2023 12:07:15 +0100, Adrian Caspersz
    <email@here.invalid> wrote:

    On 28/04/2023 11:03, Brian Gaff wrote:
    Now Virgin Broadband is very fast, and I have no right in saying its got >>> issues, because logs look fine, so where in the world does the buffering >>> come from?
    [...]
    It's Virgin, other broadband providers are not affected.

    No problems with Zen either.

    Except occasional buffering with BBC iPlayer, and sometimes fuzzy
    pictures for the first few seconds of a programme, no doubt checking
    capacity to negotiate the best resolution. I haven't seen this on the
    other online services, just iPlayer. I've seen it with both an Nvidia
    Shield and two different Amazon Fire sticks, and my connection is
    100/20 FTTP so it's definitely the BBC and not me.

    Rod.

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