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EMT turntables going for a grand or two plus premium and VAT items
331,319,338 to 341 Nagra tape machine at 5,000 odd currently!


<https://www2.ppauctions.com/auction/365/bbc-archives-phase-3?perpage=30 &sort=TIME_ASC&view=LIST&page=20>

or


https://tinyurl.com/kn2n3eem
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On 06/03/2023 22:34, tony sayer wrote:

EMT turntables going for a grand or two plus premium and VAT items 331,319,338 to 341 Nagra tape machine at 5,000 odd currently!

<https://www2.ppauctions.com/auction/365/bbc-archives-phase-3?perpage=30 &sort=TIME_ASC&view=LIST&page=20>

or

https://tinyurl.com/kn2n3eem

There are some more studer reel-to-reel (broken) tape
machines on page 16

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Blimey, are they gold plated?
Brian

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On 06/03/2023 22:34, tony sayer wrote:

EMT turntables going for a grand or two plus premium and VAT items
331,319,338 to 341 Nagra tape machine at 5,000 odd currently!


<https://www2.ppauctions.com/auction/365/bbc-archives-phase-3?perpage=30
&sort=TIME_ASC&view=LIST&page=20>

or


https://tinyurl.com/kn2n3eem

There are some more studer reel-to-reel (broken) tape
machines on page 16

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I would like to know why the BBC possessed so many video
cassette recorders and players. Loads of Sony Betamax
recorders too.

The record decks mentioned by the OP look as though they
are earthquake-proof, complete with their own very-solid
looking floor-mounted stands.

Andrew


On 08/03/2023 09:32, Brian Gaff wrote:

Blimey, are they gold plated?
Brian

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Brian Gaff <brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:

Blimey, are they gold plated?
Brian

No, but they were well made and in small quantities. Because of that
they were never cheap but I suspect they have now become 'cult' items.


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On 08/03/2023 12:11, Andrew wrote:

I would like to know why the BBC possessed so many video
cassette recorders and players. Loads of Sony Betamax
recorders too.

The ones I noticed were all digital Betamax, not analogue. They are also selling some cameras of the same format. At the beginningof the digital
era, these gave better quality than even high band analogue such as U-Matic.

The ones I wuold be interested in are the DV-Cam recorders, but it
wouo,d cost me far more to go and fetch them than I'd pay for the lot.

As all the equipment is from their archive department, they were
probably copying the digital stuff to hard drive as quickly as possible,
one operator can deal with a number of streams being copied at once, and
the machines were relatively cheap.


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In article <gc375aTgpmBkFwmp@bancom.co.uk>,
tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> wrote:

EMT turntables going for a grand or two plus premium and VAT items 331,319,338 to 341 Nagra tape machine at 5,000 odd currently!

I remember, at Thames TV, seeing EMT turntables in the skip. No one wanted them, even free.

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Andrew <Andrew97d@btinternet.com> wrote:

[...]

The record decks mentioned by the OP look as though they
are earthquake-proof, complete with their own very-solid
looking floor-mounted stands.

They are extremely heavy - I know because I have had to move one. The
direct drive motor is a curious affair, being driven by a very low
frequency four-phase oscillator that really needs to be set up with a
twin-beam oscilloscope.

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On 09/03/2023 08:33, Roderick Stewart wrote:

On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 12:57:28 +0000, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:

On 08/03/2023 12:11, Andrew wrote:

I would like to know why the BBC possessed so many video
cassette recorders and players. Loads of Sony Betamax
recorders too.

The ones I noticed were all digital Betamax, not analogue.

Betacam surely?

So they are. Must zoom in further to read better.

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On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 12:57:28 +0000, John Williamson <johnwilliamson@btinternet.com> wrote:

On 08/03/2023 12:11, Andrew wrote:

I would like to know why the BBC possessed so many video
cassette recorders and players. Loads of Sony Betamax
recorders too.

The ones I noticed were all digital Betamax, not analogue.

Betacam surely?

Rod.

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In article <$gI8GJAQCeCkFwfA@bancom.co.uk>, tony sayer
<tony@bancom.co.uk> scribeth thus

In article <5a81fd2941dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) ><dave@davenoise.co.uk> scribeth thus

In article <gc375aTgpmBkFwmp@bancom.co.uk>,
tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> wrote:

EMT turntables going for a grand or two plus premium and VAT items
331,319,338 to 341 Nagra tape machine at 5,000 odd currently!

I remember, at Thames TV, seeing EMT turntables in the skip. No one wanted >>them, even free.

Well Two have just gone for just over a thousand inc buyers premium and
a Nagra went for 16K odd !!!!!

Silly me that should have read £7,000 for the EMT's!!!


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In article <5a81fd2941dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> scribeth thus

In article <gc375aTgpmBkFwmp@bancom.co.uk>,
tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> wrote:

EMT turntables going for a grand or two plus premium and VAT items
331,319,338 to 341 Nagra tape machine at 5,000 odd currently!

I remember, at Thames TV, seeing EMT turntables in the skip. No one wanted >them, even free.

Well Two have just gone for just over a thousand inc buyers premium and
a Nagra went for 16K odd !!!!!

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tony sayer wrote:

In article <5a81fd2941dave@davenoise.co.uk>, Dave Plowman (News) <dave@davenoise.co.uk> scribeth thus

In article <gc375aTgpmBkFwmp@bancom.co.uk>,
tony sayer <tony@bancom.co.uk> wrote:

EMT turntables going for a grand or two plus premium and VAT items
331,319,338 to 341 Nagra tape machine at 5,000 odd currently!

I remember, at Thames TV, seeing EMT turntables in the skip. No one
wanted them, even free.

Well Two have just gone for just over a thousand inc buyers premium
and a Nagra went for 16K odd !!!!!

I have 2 of those Nagras TAs! Not with a monitor bridge though.

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I have a slightly non working Betamax machine if anyone wants one.
It is worth realising that many Sony Betamax machines could be paired with
a digital box to record and play very good sounding digital content.
Now hey they used these and not DAT, I'm not sure, cost probably.
Brian

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I would like to know why the BBC possessed so many video
cassette recorders and players. Loads of Sony Betamax
recorders too.

The record decks mentioned by the OP look as though they
are earthquake-proof, complete with their own very-solid
looking floor-mounted stands.

Andrew

On 08/03/2023 09:32, Brian Gaff wrote:

Blimey, are they gold plated?
Brian

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The reason for the digital to video conversion box was that they hadn't invented DAT yet.

The reason for using Betamax tapes was that Betamax had a better video bandwidth than VHS.

The problem now is that some very important masters now only exist on
the Betamax tapes, nobody is making the heads any more, and the expected
head life of the entire world stock of new old stock heads is less than
the amount of tape that needs to be transcribed.

On 10/03/2023 12:25, Brian Gaff wrote:

I have a slightly non working Betamax machine if anyone wants one.
It is worth realising that many Sony Betamax machines could be paired with
a digital box to record and play very good sounding digital content.
Now hey they used these and not DAT, I'm not sure, cost probably.
Brian

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Important masters on Betamax?

Are we confusing Betamax with Betacam SP or are we referring to viewing copies/dubs of original master tapes?

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On 11/03/2023 11:52, joe bloggs wrote:

Important masters on Betamax?

Are we confusing Betamax with Betacam SP or are we referring to viewing copies/dubs of original master tapes?

These were stereo studio masters of audio recordings produced by using a
DAC and a anlogue video machine. Betamax, VHS and U-Matic were all used,
but Betamax gave the best results. There may have been a backup on the
linear tracks, but these were digital audio recordings.

https://thegreatbear.co.uk/audio-tape/early-digital-tape-recordings-umatic-betamax-video-tape/

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On Saturday, March 11, 2023 at 12:15:38 PM UTC, John Williamson wrote:

On 11/03/2023 11:52, joe bloggs wrote:

Important masters on Betamax?

Are we confusing Betamax with Betacam SP or are we referring to viewing copies/dubs of original master tapes?

These were stereo studio masters of audio recordings produced by using a
DAC and a anlogue video machine. Betamax, VHS and U-Matic were all used,
but Betamax gave the best results. There may have been a backup on the linear tracks, but these were digital audio recordings.

https://thegreatbear.co.uk/audio-tape/early-digital-tape-recordings-umatic-betamax-video-tape/
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Ah sound not pictures. I understand now. Thank you.

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