• Re: BBC 5 Live

    From Scott@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Sat Oct 16 15:05:30 2021
    On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 14:34:07 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    I thought BBC 5 Live was supposed to be available to act as a rolling
    news channel.

    I was in the car when I heard the news of yesterday's stabbing, it was
    right at the end of WATO, I would have thought they could have continued >through to at least 14:00 but not the case.

    I was afternoon more information so tried Radio 2 but Jeremy Vine was >wittering away as usual so I tried 5 Live but they just had some sort of >silly quiz.

    Seemed a bit of a failure on someone's part to not be able to react at
    least as the first news was coming in.

    I thought so too.

    I'll never forget on 2 January (holiday for some but not all) there
    were major storms and massive disruption with roads and railways
    closed. Radio Scotland in their wisdom had decided to record all the programmes so I think there was no information of any description
    until later in the morning.

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 16 14:34:07 2021
    I thought BBC 5 Live was supposed to be available to act as a rolling
    news channel.

    I was in the car when I heard the news of yesterday's stabbing, it was
    right at the end of WATO, I would have thought they could have continued through to at least 14:00 but not the case.

    I was afternoon more information so tried Radio 2 but Jeremy Vine was
    wittering away as usual so I tried 5 Live but they just had some sort of
    silly quiz.

    Seemed a bit of a failure on someone's part to not be able to react at
    least as the first news was coming in.

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  • From williamwright@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 16 15:02:48 2021
    On 16/10/2021 14:34, MB wrote:
    I thought BBC 5 Live was supposed to be available to act as a rolling
    news channel.

    I was in the car when I heard the news of yesterday's stabbing, it was
    right at the end of WATO, I would have thought they could have continued through to at least 14:00 but not the case.

    I was afternoon more information so tried Radio 2 but Jeremy Vine was wittering away as usual so I tried 5 Live but they just had some sort of silly quiz.

    Seemed a bit of a failure on someone's part to not be able to react at
    least as the first news was coming in.


    Sky News and GB News were soon live on the spot. The BBC News Channel
    wasn't.

    Bill

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to Scott on Sat Oct 16 16:20:28 2021
    On 16/10/2021 15:05, Scott wrote:
    I'll never forget on 2 January (holiday for some but not all) there
    were major storms and massive disruption with roads and railways
    closed. Radio Scotland in their wisdom had decided to record all the programmes so I think there was no information of any description
    until later in the morning.

    To be fair, much of Scotland does not sober up until later in January.
    Many places like Blarfoldach celebrate the old New Year for that reason
    though I think most just celebrate both.

    Normally there is not a lot happening, I doubt whether there are more
    than a handful of people working at any of the newspapers because most
    of the copy is written in advance.

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Sat Oct 16 16:27:56 2021
    On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 16:20:28 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 16/10/2021 15:05, Scott wrote:
    I'll never forget on 2 January (holiday for some but not all) there
    were major storms and massive disruption with roads and railways
    closed. Radio Scotland in their wisdom had decided to record all the
    programmes so I think there was no information of any description
    until later in the morning.

    To be fair, much of Scotland does not sober up until later in January.
    Many places like Blarfoldach celebrate the old New Year for that reason >though I think most just celebrate both.

    Normally there is not a lot happening, I doubt whether there are more
    than a handful of people working at any of the newspapers because most
    of the copy is written in advance.

    Not my idea of public service. What would they do in a major
    emergency if they don't have a proper contingency plan? At the very
    least, they could have moved to 5Live and asked them to provide
    additional traffic information. Politics I assume.

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  • From John Williamson@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 16 18:10:01 2021
    On 16/10/2021 17:29, J. P. Gilliver (John) wrote:

    They've more than made up (down?) since - BBC, Sky, and even the 236
    lot; not to detract from the seriousness of the occurrence, but
    monostoryism is endemic, at least in the TV news media. It is possible
    that little else _was_ happening in the world/country - but without
    doing my own digging, I can't find out, and I go to these channels for
    (or rather in the vain hope of) an at least _somewhat_ broad news coverage.

    I was a touch disappointed when they gave over the entire Any Questions
    show to the story.

    --
    Tciao for Now!

    John.

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  • From J. P. Gilliver (John)@21:1/5 to All on Sat Oct 16 17:29:16 2021
    On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 at 15:02:48, williamwright <wrightsaerials@f2s.com>
    wrote (my responses usually follow points raised):
    On 16/10/2021 14:34, MB wrote:
    I thought BBC 5 Live was supposed to be available to act as a rolling
    news channel.
    I was in the car when I heard the news of yesterday's stabbing, it
    was right at the end of WATO, I would have thought they could have >>continued through to at least 14:00 but not the case.
    I was afternoon more information so tried Radio 2 but Jeremy Vine
    was wittering away as usual so I tried 5 Live but they just had some
    sort of silly quiz.
    Seemed a bit of a failure on someone's part to not be able to react
    at least as the first news was coming in.


    Sky News and GB News were soon live on the spot. The BBC News Channel
    wasn't.

    Bill

    They've more than made up (down?) since - BBC, Sky, and even the 236
    lot; not to detract from the seriousness of the occurrence, but
    monostoryism is endemic, at least in the TV news media. It is possible
    that little else _was_ happening in the world/country - but without
    doing my own digging, I can't find out, and I go to these channels for
    (or rather in the vain hope of) an at least _somewhat_ broad news
    coverage.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    "Bother," said Pooh, as Windows crashed into piglet.

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to Scott on Sat Oct 16 18:22:21 2021
    On 16/10/2021 16:27, Scott wrote:
    Not my idea of public service. What would they do in a major
    emergency if they don't have a proper contingency plan? At the very
    least, they could have moved to 5Live and asked them to provide
    additional traffic information. Politics I assume.


    I would not be surprised if Traffic Scotland was not fully staffed either.

    5Live not a good choice to use because obviously will not be heard by
    people expecting traffic news via RDS and limited coverage in the Highlands.

    It take you work through Christmas and New Year?

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  • From charles@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Sat Oct 16 18:44:09 2021
    In article <skf1mi$cht$1@dont-email.me>,
    MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
    On 16/10/2021 16:27, Scott wrote:
    Not my idea of public service. What would they do in a major
    emergency if they don't have a proper contingency plan? At the very
    least, they could have moved to 5Live and asked them to provide
    additional traffic information. Politics I assume.


    I would not be surprised if Traffic Scotland was not fully staffed either.

    5Live not a good choice to use because obviously will not be heard by
    people expecting traffic news via RDS and limited coverage in the
    Highlands.

    It take you work through Christmas and New Year?

    I certainly did when I worked at TV Centre in the '60s and early '70s.

    --
    from KT24 in Surrey, England
    "I'd rather die of exhaustion than die of boredom" Thomas Carlyle

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Sat Oct 16 19:15:16 2021
    On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 18:22:21 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 16/10/2021 16:27, Scott wrote:
    Not my idea of public service. What would they do in a major
    emergency if they don't have a proper contingency plan? At the very
    least, they could have moved to 5Live and asked them to provide
    additional traffic information. Politics I assume.

    I would not be surprised if Traffic Scotland was not fully staffed either.

    True but there must have been some information available.

    5Live not a good choice to use because obviously will not be heard by
    people expecting traffic news via RDS and limited coverage in the Highlands.

    I meant - broadcast 5Live on the Radio Scotland transmitters as they
    have done on other occasions (eg when there was a fire alarm at
    Pacific Quay). At least they could have got out some information
    live.

    It take you work through Christmas and New Year?

    I am retired now. I may have been in on 2 January but I cannot
    remember. I would have driven. Also, people make journeys for
    reasons other than work, eg going to the sales.

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  • From Woody@21:1/5 to Scott on Sat Oct 16 19:30:40 2021
    On Sat 16/10/2021 19:15, Scott wrote:
    On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 18:22:21 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 16/10/2021 16:27, Scott wrote:
    Not my idea of public service. What would they do in a major
    emergency if they don't have a proper contingency plan? At the very
    least, they could have moved to 5Live and asked them to provide
    additional traffic information. Politics I assume.

    I would not be surprised if Traffic Scotland was not fully staffed either.

    True but there must have been some information available.

    5Live not a good choice to use because obviously will not be heard by
    people expecting traffic news via RDS and limited coverage in the Highlands.

    I meant - broadcast 5Live on the Radio Scotland transmitters as they
    have done on other occasions (eg when there was a fire alarm at
    Pacific Quay). At least they could have got out some information
    live.

    It take you work through Christmas and New Year?

    I am retired now. I may have been in on 2 January but I cannot
    remember. I would have driven. Also, people make journeys for
    reasons other than work, eg going to the sales.


    I found that as well. As soon as I retired my short term memory went on permanent holiday and hasn't even contacted me yet let alone come back!

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to All on Sun Oct 17 09:51:41 2021
    On 17/10/2021 09:28, Brian Gaff (Sofa) wrote:
    I bet it was all over twitter.
    I do find all news sources these days are realising nobody takes much notice of breaking news, so until they can offer a major package of coverage they seem to just add it as an extra.

    Twitter is not the best placd to get accurate news.

    I remember some years ago one evening I heard something about an
    explosion in the centre of Manchester, nothing on the news so looked on Twitter. It was full of reports of explosions being heard in various
    parts of Manchester for some time.

    After an hour or so it all quietened down and no more was heard of it.

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  • From Brian Gaff (Sofa)@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Sun Oct 17 09:28:40 2021
    I bet it was all over twitter.
    I do find all news sources these days are realising nobody takes much
    notice of breaking news, so until they can offer a major package of coverage they seem to just add it as an extra.
    Brian

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    "MB" <MB@nospam.net> wrote in message news:skekak$h6p$1@dont-email.me...
    I thought BBC 5 Live was supposed to be available to act as a rolling news >channel.

    I was in the car when I heard the news of yesterday's stabbing, it was
    right at the end of WATO, I would have thought they could have continued through to at least 14:00 but not the case.

    I was afternoon more information so tried Radio 2 but Jeremy Vine was wittering away as usual so I tried 5 Live but they just had some sort of silly quiz.

    Seemed a bit of a failure on someone's part to not be able to react at
    least as the first news was coming in.


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  • From MB@21:1/5 to Scott on Sun Oct 17 10:10:59 2021
    On 17/10/2021 10:01, Scott wrote:
    I bet it was all over twitter.
    I do find all news sources these days are realising nobody takes much
    notice of breaking news, so until they can offer a major package of coverage >> they seem to just add it as an extra.
    Brian
    Which is massively useful while driving a car:-)

    But they are quick to have a good moan about any delay even though
    supposedly they do not take much notice.

    It is usually the BBC that gets criticism because they have to be more
    careful about getting things right than people like Sky who can use
    rumours from someone in the pub and being first is more important than
    being right.

    It is quite likely that Sky were announcing the death of the MP long
    before the BBC because the BBC have to wait for it be confirmed

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to briang1@blueyonder.co.uk on Sun Oct 17 10:01:11 2021
    On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 09:28:40 +0100, "Brian Gaff \(Sofa\)" <briang1@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

    I bet it was all over twitter.
    I do find all news sources these days are realising nobody takes much
    notice of breaking news, so until they can offer a major package of coverage >they seem to just add it as an extra.
    Brian

    Which is massively useful while driving a car :-)

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to Scott on Sun Oct 17 10:58:57 2021
    On 17/10/2021 10:53, Scott wrote:
    Were that to be true, I don't think Sky News would have been named
    News Channel of the Year at the Royal Television Society awards.

    THey are well known for it.

    Awards are a bit of a farce and often a case of whose turn is it this
    year or who is on the selection panel.

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Sun Oct 17 10:53:57 2021
    On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 10:10:59 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 17/10/2021 10:01, Scott wrote:
    I bet it was all over twitter.
    I do find all news sources these days are realising nobody takes much
    notice of breaking news, so until they can offer a major package of coverage
    they seem to just add it as an extra.
    Brian
    Which is massively useful while driving a car:-)

    But they are quick to have a good moan about any delay even though
    supposedly they do not take much notice.

    It is usually the BBC that gets criticism because they have to be more >careful about getting things right than people like Sky who can use
    rumours from someone in the pub and being first is more important than
    being right.

    It is quite likely that Sky were announcing the death of the MP long
    before the BBC because the BBC have to wait for it be confirmed

    Were that to be true, I don't think Sky News would have been named
    News Channel of the Year at the Royal Television Society awards.

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Sun Oct 17 11:58:44 2021
    On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 10:58:57 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 17/10/2021 10:53, Scott wrote:
    Were that to be true, I don't think Sky News would have been named
    News Channel of the Year at the Royal Television Society awards.

    THey are well known for it.

    Awards are a bit of a farce and often a case of whose turn is it this
    year or who is on the selection panel.

    Well, maybe, but thank goodness we have a choice and do not have to
    rely on the state broadcaster for all our news.

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  • From williamwright@21:1/5 to Scott on Sun Oct 17 15:44:25 2021
    On 17/10/2021 11:58, Scott wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 10:58:57 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 17/10/2021 10:53, Scott wrote:
    Were that to be true, I don't think Sky News would have been named
    News Channel of the Year at the Royal Television Society awards.

    THey are well known for it.

    Awards are a bit of a farce and often a case of whose turn is it this
    year or who is on the selection panel.

    Well, maybe, but thank goodness we have a choice and do not have to
    rely on the state broadcaster for all our news.


    GB News is very refreshing.

    Bill

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  • From Woody@21:1/5 to williamwright on Sun Oct 17 16:05:15 2021
    On Sun 17/10/2021 15:44, williamwright wrote:
    On 17/10/2021 11:58, Scott wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 10:58:57 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 17/10/2021 10:53, Scott wrote:
    Were that to be true, I don't think Sky News would have been named
    News Channel of the Year at the Royal Television Society awards.

    THey are well known for it.

    Awards are a bit of a farce and often a case of whose turn is it this
    year or who is on the selection panel.

    Well, maybe, but thank goodness we have a choice and do not have to
    rely on the state broadcaster for all our news.


    GB News is very refreshing.

    ... especially when Simon and Kirsty are on, and Farage and Brazier in
    the evening.

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to wrightsaerials@f2s.com on Mon Oct 18 12:50:43 2021
    On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 15:44:25 +0100, williamwright
    <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
    [snip]

    GB News is very refreshing.

    I have just watched it and I am more impressed than I expected.

    I belong to a political party, but I want hear a multiplicity of
    views.

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  • From williamwright@21:1/5 to Scott on Mon Oct 18 19:34:30 2021
    On 18/10/2021 12:50, Scott wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 15:44:25 +0100, williamwright
    <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
    [snip]

    GB News is very refreshing.

    I have just watched it and I am more impressed than I expected.

    I belong to a political party, but I want hear a multiplicity of
    views.

    I've just seen a discussion on GB News about Islamic terrorism. One
    speaker was a Muslim professor who explained a great deal about the
    structure of the religion in the UK and abroad. He discussed the
    mosques, the madrassas, the lack of religious leader (no 'pope') and
    much more. He explained why there are thousands of young Muslims in the
    UK who have been radicalised. I learnt a lot. Why do we never hear, on mainstream media, such a full, frank, account of the problems that Islam
    has brought to Britain, and the way these problems could be resolved?

    Bill

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to williamwright on Mon Oct 18 19:42:44 2021
    On 18/10/2021 19:34, williamwright wrote:
    I've just seen a discussion on GB News about Islamic terrorism. One
    speaker was a Muslim professor who explained a great deal about the
    structure of the religion in the UK and abroad. He discussed the
    mosques, the madrassas, the lack of religious leader (no 'pope') and
    much more. He explained why there are thousands of young Muslims in the
    UK who have been radicalised. I learnt a lot. Why do we never hear, on mainstream media, such a full, frank, account of the problems that Islam
    has brought to Britain, and the way these problems could be resolved?

    I have heard all that plenty of times but I tend to watch and listen to
    the BBC so do not find it unusual to hear it.

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  • From Woody@21:1/5 to williamwright on Mon Oct 18 20:00:12 2021
    On Mon 18/10/2021 19:34, williamwright wrote:
    On 18/10/2021 12:50, Scott wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 15:44:25 +0100, williamwright
    <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
    [snip]

    GB News is very refreshing.

    I have just watched it and I am more impressed than I expected.

    I belong to a political party, but I want hear a multiplicity of
    views.

    I've just seen a discussion on GB News about Islamic terrorism. One
    speaker was a Muslim professor who explained a great deal about the
    structure of the religion in the UK and abroad. He discussed the
    mosques, the madrassas, the lack of religious leader (no 'pope') and
    much more. He explained why there are thousands of young Muslims in the
    UK who have been radicalised. I learnt a lot. Why do we never hear, on mainstream media, such a full, frank, account of the problems that Islam
    has brought to Britain, and the way these problems could be resolved?

    Bill

    Don't forget as well that it was on Farage's prog!

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Mon Oct 18 21:26:22 2021
    On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 19:42:44 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 18/10/2021 19:34, williamwright wrote:
    I've just seen a discussion on GB News about Islamic terrorism. One
    speaker was a Muslim professor who explained a great deal about the
    structure of the religion in the UK and abroad. He discussed the
    mosques, the madrassas, the lack of religious leader (no 'pope') and
    much more. He explained why there are thousands of young Muslims in the
    UK who have been radicalised. I learnt a lot. Why do we never hear, on
    mainstream media, such a full, frank, account of the problems that Islam
    has brought to Britain, and the way these problems could be resolved?

    I have heard all that plenty of times but I tend to watch and listen to
    the BBC so do not find it unusual to hear it.

    I thought it included more than the usual level of detail.

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  • From Bob Latham@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Mon Oct 18 21:45:51 2021
    In article <skkf57$ojd$2@dont-email.me>,
    MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
    On 18/10/2021 19:34, williamwright wrote:


    I have heard all that plenty of times but I tend to watch and
    listen to the BBC so do not find it unusual to hear it.


    No I'm sorry, the BBC does all it can to avoid the issue, to fudge
    it. They try to make it something to do with on-line abuse or poverty
    or anything but they will not ever say we have a problem with Islam
    in the UK. It matters not if this is FGM, Child grooming or terrorism
    they will not allow the truth to be said.

    Yes, I do understand that the majority of Muslims do not engage in
    such things.

    To be fair, it's not only the BBC, it's all of mainstream media and politicians. Look at the mayor of London as an example, he says he
    was sad that the MP had "passed away". As someone said on GB News
    tonight that is incredibly disingenuous.

    Most issues now have to be reported in line with the narrative and
    the agenda and the truth cannot be spoken, it's classic Emperor's new
    clothes.


    Bob.

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to wrightsaerials@f2s.com on Mon Oct 18 21:25:41 2021
    On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 19:34:30 +0100, williamwright
    <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:

    On 18/10/2021 12:50, Scott wrote:
    On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 15:44:25 +0100, williamwright
    <wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
    [snip]

    GB News is very refreshing.

    I have just watched it and I am more impressed than I expected.

    I belong to a political party, but I want hear a multiplicity of
    views.

    I've just seen a discussion on GB News about Islamic terrorism. One
    speaker was a Muslim professor who explained a great deal about the
    structure of the religion in the UK and abroad. He discussed the
    mosques, the madrassas, the lack of religious leader (no 'pope') and
    much more. He explained why there are thousands of young Muslims in the
    UK who have been radicalised. I learnt a lot. Why do we never hear, on >mainstream media, such a full, frank, account of the problems that Islam
    has brought to Britain, and the way these problems could be resolved?

    I watched that too.

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  • From MB@21:1/5 to Bob Latham on Mon Oct 18 22:38:30 2021
    On 18/10/2021 21:45, Bob Latham wrote:
    No I'm sorry, the BBC does all it can to avoid the issue, to fudge
    it. They try to make it something to do with on-line abuse or poverty
    or anything but they will not ever say we have a problem with Islam
    in the UK. It matters not if this is FGM, Child grooming or terrorism
    they will not allow the truth to be said.

    Yes, I do understand that the majority of Muslims do not engage in
    such things.

    To be fair, it's not only the BBC, it's all of mainstream media and politicians. Look at the mayor of London as an example, he says he
    was sad that the MP had "passed away". As someone said on GB News
    tonight that is incredibly disingenuous.

    Most issues now have to be reported in line with the narrative and
    the agenda and the truth cannot be spoken, it's classic Emperor's new clothes.

    The BBC tend to report what they were told by the authorities because
    they are the equivalent of a "paper of record". It is OK for small
    stations with only a few thousand listeners or viewers, they can repeat
    what some bloke in the pub told them in the hope that they might be
    first with the news which is more important to them than being correct.

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  • From Scott@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Tue Oct 19 10:13:59 2021
    On Mon, 18 Oct 2021 22:38:30 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:

    On 18/10/2021 21:45, Bob Latham wrote:
    No I'm sorry, the BBC does all it can to avoid the issue, to fudge
    it. They try to make it something to do with on-line abuse or poverty
    or anything but they will not ever say we have a problem with Islam
    in the UK. It matters not if this is FGM, Child grooming or terrorism
    they will not allow the truth to be said.

    Yes, I do understand that the majority of Muslims do not engage in
    such things.

    To be fair, it's not only the BBC, it's all of mainstream media and
    politicians. Look at the mayor of London as an example, he says he
    was sad that the MP had "passed away". As someone said on GB News
    tonight that is incredibly disingenuous.

    Most issues now have to be reported in line with the narrative and
    the agenda and the truth cannot be spoken, it's classic Emperor's new
    clothes.

    The BBC tend to report what they were told by the authorities because
    they are the equivalent of a "paper of record". It is OK for small
    stations with only a few thousand listeners or viewers, they can repeat
    what some bloke in the pub told them in the hope that they might be
    first with the news which is more important to them than being correct.

    I see. No place for investigative journalism. Just act as a
    spokesperson for the 'authorities'. Are you seriously suggesting that
    the News Channel of the Year relies on pub patrons for news?

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  • From Bob Latham@21:1/5 to MB@nospam.net on Tue Oct 19 10:33:32 2021
    In article <skkpeq$5kv$1@dont-email.me>,
    MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
    On 18/10/2021 21:45, Bob Latham wrote:


    The BBC tend to report what they were told by the authorities
    because they are the equivalent of a "paper of record". It is OK
    for small stations with only a few thousand listeners or viewers,
    they can repeat what some bloke in the pub told them in the hope
    that they might be first with the news which is more important to
    them than being correct.


    I'm sorry no. The BBC is not a news outlet at all now. It once was
    the best and worthy of trust but no longer. It's now a propaganda
    outlet and nothing more where the stories are filtered to match the
    agenda. You'll never hear both sides of the story on the BBC unlike
    GB News which does show both sides.

    Bob.

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