I thought BBC 5 Live was supposed to be available to act as a rolling
news channel.
I was in the car when I heard the news of yesterday's stabbing, it was
right at the end of WATO, I would have thought they could have continued >through to at least 14:00 but not the case.
I was afternoon more information so tried Radio 2 but Jeremy Vine was >wittering away as usual so I tried 5 Live but they just had some sort of >silly quiz.
Seemed a bit of a failure on someone's part to not be able to react at
least as the first news was coming in.
I thought BBC 5 Live was supposed to be available to act as a rolling
news channel.
I was in the car when I heard the news of yesterday's stabbing, it was
right at the end of WATO, I would have thought they could have continued through to at least 14:00 but not the case.
I was afternoon more information so tried Radio 2 but Jeremy Vine was wittering away as usual so I tried 5 Live but they just had some sort of silly quiz.
Seemed a bit of a failure on someone's part to not be able to react at
least as the first news was coming in.
I'll never forget on 2 January (holiday for some but not all) there
were major storms and massive disruption with roads and railways
closed. Radio Scotland in their wisdom had decided to record all the programmes so I think there was no information of any description
until later in the morning.
On 16/10/2021 15:05, Scott wrote:
I'll never forget on 2 January (holiday for some but not all) there
were major storms and massive disruption with roads and railways
closed. Radio Scotland in their wisdom had decided to record all the
programmes so I think there was no information of any description
until later in the morning.
To be fair, much of Scotland does not sober up until later in January.
Many places like Blarfoldach celebrate the old New Year for that reason >though I think most just celebrate both.
Normally there is not a lot happening, I doubt whether there are more
than a handful of people working at any of the newspapers because most
of the copy is written in advance.
They've more than made up (down?) since - BBC, Sky, and even the 236
lot; not to detract from the seriousness of the occurrence, but
monostoryism is endemic, at least in the TV news media. It is possible
that little else _was_ happening in the world/country - but without
doing my own digging, I can't find out, and I go to these channels for
(or rather in the vain hope of) an at least _somewhat_ broad news coverage.
On 16/10/2021 14:34, MB wrote:
I thought BBC 5 Live was supposed to be available to act as a rolling
news channel.
I was in the car when I heard the news of yesterday's stabbing, it
was right at the end of WATO, I would have thought they could have >>continued through to at least 14:00 but not the case.
I was afternoon more information so tried Radio 2 but Jeremy Vine
was wittering away as usual so I tried 5 Live but they just had some
sort of silly quiz.
Seemed a bit of a failure on someone's part to not be able to react
at least as the first news was coming in.
Sky News and GB News were soon live on the spot. The BBC News Channel
wasn't.
Bill
Not my idea of public service. What would they do in a major
emergency if they don't have a proper contingency plan? At the very
least, they could have moved to 5Live and asked them to provide
additional traffic information. Politics I assume.
On 16/10/2021 16:27, Scott wrote:
Not my idea of public service. What would they do in a major
emergency if they don't have a proper contingency plan? At the very
least, they could have moved to 5Live and asked them to provide
additional traffic information. Politics I assume.
I would not be surprised if Traffic Scotland was not fully staffed either.
5Live not a good choice to use because obviously will not be heard by
people expecting traffic news via RDS and limited coverage in the
Highlands.
It take you work through Christmas and New Year?
On 16/10/2021 16:27, Scott wrote:
Not my idea of public service. What would they do in a major
emergency if they don't have a proper contingency plan? At the very
least, they could have moved to 5Live and asked them to provide
additional traffic information. Politics I assume.
I would not be surprised if Traffic Scotland was not fully staffed either.
5Live not a good choice to use because obviously will not be heard by
people expecting traffic news via RDS and limited coverage in the Highlands.
It take you work through Christmas and New Year?
On Sat, 16 Oct 2021 18:22:21 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 16/10/2021 16:27, Scott wrote:
Not my idea of public service. What would they do in a major
emergency if they don't have a proper contingency plan? At the very
least, they could have moved to 5Live and asked them to provide
additional traffic information. Politics I assume.
I would not be surprised if Traffic Scotland was not fully staffed either.
True but there must have been some information available.
5Live not a good choice to use because obviously will not be heard by
people expecting traffic news via RDS and limited coverage in the Highlands.
I meant - broadcast 5Live on the Radio Scotland transmitters as they
have done on other occasions (eg when there was a fire alarm at
Pacific Quay). At least they could have got out some information
live.
It take you work through Christmas and New Year?
I am retired now. I may have been in on 2 January but I cannot
remember. I would have driven. Also, people make journeys for
reasons other than work, eg going to the sales.
I bet it was all over twitter.
I do find all news sources these days are realising nobody takes much notice of breaking news, so until they can offer a major package of coverage they seem to just add it as an extra.
I thought BBC 5 Live was supposed to be available to act as a rolling news >channel.
I was in the car when I heard the news of yesterday's stabbing, it was
right at the end of WATO, I would have thought they could have continued through to at least 14:00 but not the case.
I was afternoon more information so tried Radio 2 but Jeremy Vine was wittering away as usual so I tried 5 Live but they just had some sort of silly quiz.
Seemed a bit of a failure on someone's part to not be able to react at
least as the first news was coming in.
I bet it was all over twitter.Which is massively useful while driving a car:-)
I do find all news sources these days are realising nobody takes much
notice of breaking news, so until they can offer a major package of coverage >> they seem to just add it as an extra.
Brian
I bet it was all over twitter.
I do find all news sources these days are realising nobody takes much
notice of breaking news, so until they can offer a major package of coverage >they seem to just add it as an extra.
Brian
Were that to be true, I don't think Sky News would have been named
News Channel of the Year at the Royal Television Society awards.
On 17/10/2021 10:01, Scott wrote:
I bet it was all over twitter.Which is massively useful while driving a car:-)
I do find all news sources these days are realising nobody takes much
notice of breaking news, so until they can offer a major package of coverage
they seem to just add it as an extra.
Brian
But they are quick to have a good moan about any delay even though
supposedly they do not take much notice.
It is usually the BBC that gets criticism because they have to be more >careful about getting things right than people like Sky who can use
rumours from someone in the pub and being first is more important than
being right.
It is quite likely that Sky were announcing the death of the MP long
before the BBC because the BBC have to wait for it be confirmed
On 17/10/2021 10:53, Scott wrote:
Were that to be true, I don't think Sky News would have been named
News Channel of the Year at the Royal Television Society awards.
THey are well known for it.
Awards are a bit of a farce and often a case of whose turn is it this
year or who is on the selection panel.
On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 10:58:57 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 17/10/2021 10:53, Scott wrote:
Were that to be true, I don't think Sky News would have been named
News Channel of the Year at the Royal Television Society awards.
THey are well known for it.
Awards are a bit of a farce and often a case of whose turn is it this
year or who is on the selection panel.
Well, maybe, but thank goodness we have a choice and do not have to
rely on the state broadcaster for all our news.
On 17/10/2021 11:58, Scott wrote:
On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 10:58:57 +0100, MB <MB@nospam.net> wrote:
On 17/10/2021 10:53, Scott wrote:
Were that to be true, I don't think Sky News would have been named
News Channel of the Year at the Royal Television Society awards.
THey are well known for it.
Awards are a bit of a farce and often a case of whose turn is it this
year or who is on the selection panel.
Well, maybe, but thank goodness we have a choice and do not have to
rely on the state broadcaster for all our news.
GB News is very refreshing.
GB News is very refreshing.
On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 15:44:25 +0100, williamwright
<wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
[snip]
I have just watched it and I am more impressed than I expected.GB News is very refreshing.
I belong to a political party, but I want hear a multiplicity of
views.
I've just seen a discussion on GB News about Islamic terrorism. One
speaker was a Muslim professor who explained a great deal about the
structure of the religion in the UK and abroad. He discussed the
mosques, the madrassas, the lack of religious leader (no 'pope') and
much more. He explained why there are thousands of young Muslims in the
UK who have been radicalised. I learnt a lot. Why do we never hear, on mainstream media, such a full, frank, account of the problems that Islam
has brought to Britain, and the way these problems could be resolved?
On 18/10/2021 12:50, Scott wrote:
On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 15:44:25 +0100, williamwrightI've just seen a discussion on GB News about Islamic terrorism. One
<wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
[snip]
I have just watched it and I am more impressed than I expected.GB News is very refreshing.
I belong to a political party, but I want hear a multiplicity of
views.
speaker was a Muslim professor who explained a great deal about the
structure of the religion in the UK and abroad. He discussed the
mosques, the madrassas, the lack of religious leader (no 'pope') and
much more. He explained why there are thousands of young Muslims in the
UK who have been radicalised. I learnt a lot. Why do we never hear, on mainstream media, such a full, frank, account of the problems that Islam
has brought to Britain, and the way these problems could be resolved?
Bill
On 18/10/2021 19:34, williamwright wrote:
I've just seen a discussion on GB News about Islamic terrorism. One
speaker was a Muslim professor who explained a great deal about the
structure of the religion in the UK and abroad. He discussed the
mosques, the madrassas, the lack of religious leader (no 'pope') and
much more. He explained why there are thousands of young Muslims in the
UK who have been radicalised. I learnt a lot. Why do we never hear, on
mainstream media, such a full, frank, account of the problems that Islam
has brought to Britain, and the way these problems could be resolved?
I have heard all that plenty of times but I tend to watch and listen to
the BBC so do not find it unusual to hear it.
On 18/10/2021 19:34, williamwright wrote:
I have heard all that plenty of times but I tend to watch and
listen to the BBC so do not find it unusual to hear it.
On 18/10/2021 12:50, Scott wrote:
On Sun, 17 Oct 2021 15:44:25 +0100, williamwrightI've just seen a discussion on GB News about Islamic terrorism. One
<wrightsaerials@f2s.com> wrote:
[snip]
I have just watched it and I am more impressed than I expected.GB News is very refreshing.
I belong to a political party, but I want hear a multiplicity of
views.
speaker was a Muslim professor who explained a great deal about the
structure of the religion in the UK and abroad. He discussed the
mosques, the madrassas, the lack of religious leader (no 'pope') and
much more. He explained why there are thousands of young Muslims in the
UK who have been radicalised. I learnt a lot. Why do we never hear, on >mainstream media, such a full, frank, account of the problems that Islam
has brought to Britain, and the way these problems could be resolved?
No I'm sorry, the BBC does all it can to avoid the issue, to fudge
it. They try to make it something to do with on-line abuse or poverty
or anything but they will not ever say we have a problem with Islam
in the UK. It matters not if this is FGM, Child grooming or terrorism
they will not allow the truth to be said.
Yes, I do understand that the majority of Muslims do not engage in
such things.
To be fair, it's not only the BBC, it's all of mainstream media and politicians. Look at the mayor of London as an example, he says he
was sad that the MP had "passed away". As someone said on GB News
tonight that is incredibly disingenuous.
Most issues now have to be reported in line with the narrative and
the agenda and the truth cannot be spoken, it's classic Emperor's new clothes.
On 18/10/2021 21:45, Bob Latham wrote:
No I'm sorry, the BBC does all it can to avoid the issue, to fudge
it. They try to make it something to do with on-line abuse or poverty
or anything but they will not ever say we have a problem with Islam
in the UK. It matters not if this is FGM, Child grooming or terrorism
they will not allow the truth to be said.
Yes, I do understand that the majority of Muslims do not engage in
such things.
To be fair, it's not only the BBC, it's all of mainstream media and
politicians. Look at the mayor of London as an example, he says he
was sad that the MP had "passed away". As someone said on GB News
tonight that is incredibly disingenuous.
Most issues now have to be reported in line with the narrative and
the agenda and the truth cannot be spoken, it's classic Emperor's new
clothes.
The BBC tend to report what they were told by the authorities because
they are the equivalent of a "paper of record". It is OK for small
stations with only a few thousand listeners or viewers, they can repeat
what some bloke in the pub told them in the hope that they might be
first with the news which is more important to them than being correct.
On 18/10/2021 21:45, Bob Latham wrote:
The BBC tend to report what they were told by the authorities
because they are the equivalent of a "paper of record". It is OK
for small stations with only a few thousand listeners or viewers,
they can repeat what some bloke in the pub told them in the hope
that they might be first with the news which is more important to
them than being correct.
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