Something like a stand-alone separates unit for a Hi-Fi, or is it just best to stick with an android tablet plugged into the amp?
Any operational gotchyas with them? All internet radio stations available
on them?
All comments and gossip gleefully accepted.
My Roberts DAB radio has Internet radio
Something like a stand-alone separates unit for a Hi-Fi, or is it just best >to stick with an android tablet plugged into the amp?
Any operational gotchyas with them? All internet radio stations available
on them?
All comments and gossip gleefully accepted.
Something like a stand-alone separates unit for a Hi-Fi, or is it
just best to stick with an android tablet plugged into the amp?
Any operational gotchyas with them? All internet radio stations
available on them?
All comments and gossip gleefully accepted.
Something like a stand-alone separates unit for a Hi-Fi, or is it just best to stick with an android tablet plugged into the amp?
Any operational gotchyas with them? All internet radio stations available
on them?
I have been out of the market for ~10 years, but I understand that radio stations are sometimes very precious about where their 'product' is made available. Translation: they want to get the revenue from the ads alongside the audio, or they want to advertise their own stuff in that space, or they want the juicy analytics data to understand who is listening. Or they're pushing their own platform (BBC Sounds etc).
David Paste <pastedavid@gmail.com> wrote:
Something like a stand-alone separates unit for a Hi-Fi, or is it just best >> to stick with an android tablet plugged into the amp?
Any operational gotchyas with them? All internet radio stations available
on them?
I have been out of the market for ~10 years, but I understand that radio >stations are sometimes very precious about where their 'product' is made >available. Translation: they want to get the revenue from the ads alongside >the audio, or they want to advertise their own stuff in that space, or they >want the juicy analytics data to understand who is listening. Or they're >pushing their own platform (BBC Sounds etc).
That means they sometimes decide to take their ball home and remove their >stream from certain players if they don't get things their way.
For example: >https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/help/questions/recent-changes-to-bbc-sounds/tunein-changes
I'm not familiar with the current internet radio platforms, but when I had >one (reciva) it was an endless cat and mouse game: somebody would figure out >the URL for the audio streams and publish the station, then later the >broadcaster would change the stream URL and it would break. Then somebody >would figure it out and resubmit. etc etc. Maybe the big players like the >BBC have some kind of agreement with the platforms (until they change their >mind), but small independent stations in other countries are less likely to. >It was always pot luck which smaller stations would work.
So personally I'd stick with a phone or tablet. At least the stations know >they need to support iOS and Android and you can always run their
app/website if they get grumpy about third party platforms.
Theo
Maybe the "cat and mouse game" of which you speak depends on which
stations you listen to, but I've had no problems at all listening to
the ones I like on an internet radio designed for the purpose. I just
save them on the presets and they stay put. It's a Roberts 93i.
In article <JJl*U1J9y@news.chiark.greenend.org.uk>, Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
Maybe the "cat and mouse game" of which you speak depends on which stations you listen to, but I've had no problems at all listening to
the ones I like on an internet radio designed for the purpose. I just save them on the presets and they stay put. It's a Roberts 93i.
It has happened even for your radio: https://www.avforums.com/threads/roberts-stream-93i.1945133/
(BBC broke on demand audio, Roberts fixed it 15 months later, BBC broke
it, Roberts fixed it again)
More likely Roberts made radio without looking at the spec. Simply made it work on what was being brodcast. This happened with some tv makers over Ceefax.
Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
Maybe the "cat and mouse game" of which you speak depends on which
stations you listen to, but I've had no problems at all listening to
the ones I like on an internet radio designed for the purpose. I just
save them on the presets and they stay put. It's a Roberts 93i.
It has happened even for your radio: https://www.avforums.com/threads/roberts-stream-93i.1945133/
(BBC broke on demand audio, Roberts fixed it 15 months later, BBC broke
it, Roberts fixed it again)
The radio sounds pretty good through its own loudspeakers (yes,
plural, in stereo) for something of its size, but could also be
connected to a hi-fi using a 3.5mm analogue stereo connector, and it
can be connected to the internet using either wi-fi or ethernet.
It's probably possible to connect a phone or a tablet to the hi-fi,
but I've never tried. I prefer to use my phone as a phone.
Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
Maybe the "cat and mouse game" of which you speak depends on which
stations you listen to, but I've had no problems at all listening to
the ones I like on an internet radio designed for the purpose. I just
save them on the presets and they stay put. It's a Roberts 93i.
It has happened even for your radio: >https://www.avforums.com/threads/roberts-stream-93i.1945133/
(BBC broke on demand audio, Roberts fixed it 15 months later, BBC broke it, >Roberts fixed it again)
If all you listen to is the internet equivalent of what you find on DAB or >FM, you'll probably be fine - live audio is simpler and the manufacturer is >incentivised to make big stations work.
Once you start going to on-demand services or less popular stations abroad, >there is less incentive to keep it working.
Some of the radios are based on global 'platforms' from the silicon vendor >(eg Frontier) - if Frontier sells a lot of radios in Spain, they might be >incentivised to make Spanish stations work nicely. But if they don't sell >many radios in Venezuela then there's not so much interest in them keeping >their local stations working.
(That's my experience from being on the now-defunct Reciva platform - other >platforms may do it better than Reciva did)
Theo
On 31/01/2023 08:58, Roderick Stewart wrote:
The radio sounds pretty good through its own loudspeakers (yes,
plural, in stereo) for something of its size, but could also be
connected to a hi-fi using a 3.5mm analogue stereo connector, and it
can be connected to the internet using either wi-fi or ethernet.
It's probably possible to connect a phone or a tablet to the hi-fi,
but I've never tried. I prefer to use my phone as a phone.
The only thing that I do not like about the Roberts 94i is that I think
the Bluetooth is only an input so you cannot feed an external speaker by
BT.
On 31 Jan 2023 11:04:27 +0000 (GMT), Theo
<theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
Roderick Stewart <rjfs@escapetime.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
Maybe the "cat and mouse game" of which you speak depends on which
stations you listen to, but I've had no problems at all listening to
the ones I like on an internet radio designed for the purpose. I just
save them on the presets and they stay put. It's a Roberts 93i.
It has happened even for your radio: >>https://www.avforums.com/threads/roberts-stream-93i.1945133/
(BBC broke on demand audio, Roberts fixed it 15 months later, BBC broke it, >>Roberts fixed it again)
If all you listen to is the internet equivalent of what you find on DAB or >>FM, you'll probably be fine - live audio is simpler and the manufacturer is >>incentivised to make big stations work.
Once you start going to on-demand services or less popular stations abroad, >>there is less incentive to keep it working.
Some of the radios are based on global 'platforms' from the silicon vendor >>(eg Frontier) - if Frontier sells a lot of radios in Spain, they might be >>incentivised to make Spanish stations work nicely. But if they don't sell >>many radios in Venezuela then there's not so much interest in them keeping >>their local stations working.
(That's my experience from being on the now-defunct Reciva platform - other >>platforms may do it better than Reciva did)
Theo
For what it's worth, I rarely listen to anything from the BBC. I use
the Roberts as a bedside radio mostly for listening to music. A couple
of my favourites, Ancient FM and Otto's Baroque have never failed, and
are also available via radio player apps on the Nvidia Shield and
Amazon Fire TV. None of my experience with these feels like a system
that's unreliable. They're easy to use and they just work, and the
sound quality is excellent.
Rod.
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