Now I can hear the stations running just loops telling people to use other >bands, it is certainly true there are some exceptions and some
ramifications. Absolute are running their loop, not just notched old 25
47m but at least 3 other frequencies, Hits radio or whatever they are called >this week have a lot of channels affected. However, The god channel,
Premier, and LBC and a lot of ethnic stations are still on there.
Does this mean we can look forward to a lot of new MW pirates in a few
moths time I wonder.
Also why has Car Sick FM put its free channel into mono?. I'd have thought >as the only Global station for classical music, they might have left it >stereo. Its a shame as they might have even had room for more channels and a >truly surround sound radio station.
Now I can hear the stations running just loops telling people to use other bands, it is certainly true there are some exceptions and some
ramifications. Absolute are running their loop, not just notched old 25
47m but at least 3 other frequencies, Hits radio or whatever they are
called this week have a lot of channels affected. However, The god
channel, Premier, and LBC and a lot of ethnic stations are still on there. Does this mean we can look forward to a lot of new MW pirates in a few
moths time I wonder.
Also why has Car Sick FM put its free channel into mono?. I'd have
thought as the only Global station for classical music, they might have
left it stereo. Its a shame as they might have even had room for more channels and a truly surround sound radio station.
Brian
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That should have said Freeview, for car sick FM but it does seem a backward >step if we are all going digital. The FM Global stations are in Stereo.
Brian
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 11:03:54 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
<brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
That should have said Freeview, for car sick FM but it does seem a backward
step if we are all going digital. The FM Global stations are in Stereo.
Brian
I agree this is a bit odd. Any savings for Global must be pretty
minimal. That said, my impression is that Freeview is on its way out
and the 'powers that be' would prefer to move to online distribution.
Online has to get very much better for many people before Freeview can be turned off. Another decade I reckon.
On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 11:03:54 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
<brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
That should have said Freeview, for car sick FM but it does seem a backward >> step if we are all going digital. The FM Global stations are in Stereo.
Brian
I agree this is a bit odd. Any savings for Global must be pretty
minimal. That said, my impression is that Freeview is on its way out
and the 'powers that be' would prefer to move to online distribution.
On 21/01/2023 15:55, Tweed wrote:
Scott <newsgroups@gefion.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 11:03:54 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
<brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
That should have said Freeview, for car sick FM but it does seem a
backward
step if we are all going digital. The FM Global stations are in Stereo. >>>> Brian
I agree this is a bit odd. Any savings for Global must be pretty
minimal. That said, my impression is that Freeview is on its way out
and the 'powers that be' would prefer to move to online distribution.
Online has to get very much better for many people before Freeview can be
turned off. Another decade I reckon.
In "Up next - the government's vision for the broadcasting sector"[1] last year the government asked OFCOM last year to report by the end of 2025 on
the future of DTT. In the meantime they have protected options: Freeview licences run to 2034 but can be revoked from 2030.
[1] https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/up-next-the-governments-vision-for-the-broadcasting-sector
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On Sat, 21 Jan 2023 11:03:54 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
<brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
That should have said Freeview, for car sick FM but it does seem a >>backward
step if we are all going digital. The FM Global stations are in Stereo.
Brian
I agree this is a bit odd. Any savings for Global must be pretty
minimal. That said, my impression is that Freeview is on its way out
and the 'powers that be' would prefer to move to online distribution.
What about the freesat? I'd imagine in some very rural areas, this might >actually be the best way to get TV.
Getting back to radio though. Medium wave. What could we use it for? Its
not really big enough to do anything digital with it
On 22/01/2023 13:35, Brian Gaff wrote:
What about the freesat? I'd imagine in some very rural areas, this might
actually be the best way to get TV.
It's also very handy in some urban areas.
Getting back to radio though. Medium wave. What could we use it for? Its
not really big enough to do anything digital with it, and its propagation
changes with daylight and man made interference might make it hard to use at >> all.
The Americans are using frequencies in the Medium Wave band for combined >analogue and Digital Broadcasting. It needs 15kHz channel separation,
though, so here, t would need the frequency allocation scheme to be changed.
They also use the 88 to 108 MHz band for digital, in band with an
analogue signal, but due to the channel bandwidth they need, we can't
use the same system here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_Radio
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 14:26:46 +0000, John Williamson
The Americans are using frequencies in the Medium Wave band for combinedWhat if you removed the analogue component. What would the channel separation need to be then? Would this be the same thing as DRM?
analogue and Digital Broadcasting. It needs 15kHz channel separation,
though, so here, t would need the frequency allocation scheme to be changed. >>
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HD_Radio
What about the freesat? I'd imagine in some very rural areas, this might actually be the best way to get TV.
Getting back to radio though. Medium wave. What could we use it for? Its
not really big enough to do anything digital with it, and its propagation changes with daylight and man made interference might make it hard to use at all.
...Who remembers those early cordless phones that used 49mhz and top end
of medium wave. The medium wave to the hand set from a dangling wire at the phone usually meant that even standing near your TV made it fizz and crackle.
DAB was supposed to have replaced FM, but it has not done so. Online has
not done so, and in many ways all we are doing online is time shifting >mostly.
Live stuff is by its definition live, and in any emergency, you are
not going to convince me that the whole internet is going to still be >working.
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 13:27:23 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
<brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
DAB was supposed to have replaced FM, but it has not done so. Online has >>not done so, and in many ways all we are doing online is time shifting >>mostly.
When I got my first Freeview disk recorder at least fifteen years ago,
all I ever used it for was time shifting. Since then I can't remember
the last time I watched anything at the same time that it was
broadcast. Within the last five years my viewing has gradually
migrated to online, and the disk recorders have actually been switched
off since 31st December 2021 so for me online has already replaced broadcasting entirely.
Live stuff is by its definition live, and in any emergency, you are
not going to convince me that the whole internet is going to still be >>working.
There seem to be two definitions of the word "live" in relation to broadcasting. There is the one that I remember from the days before it
was possible to record television signals, when it meant that events
were actually happening while you were watching them (unlike radio,
which could sometimes be from a tape or a record). Then there is the definition that the licensing people use to explain when you are
obliged to buy a licence to watch it, where it means anything that
you watch at the same time that it being broadcast, even if it's
actually a recording, which these days means nearly everything. Thus
the use of the word "live" is an opportunity for confusion.
Rod.
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 13:27:23 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
<brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
DAB was supposed to have replaced FM, but it has not done so. Online has
not done so, and in many ways all we are doing online is time shifting
mostly.
When I got my first Freeview disk recorder at least fifteen years ago,
all I ever used it for was time shifting. Since then I can't remember
the last time I watched anything at the same time that it was
broadcast. Within the last five years my viewing has gradually
migrated to online, and the disk recorders have actually been switched
off since 31st December 2021 so for me online has already replaced broadcasting entirely.
On 23/01/2023 10:30, Roderick Stewart wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jan 2023 13:27:23 -0000, "Brian Gaff"
<brian1gaff@gmail.com> wrote:
DAB was supposed to have replaced FM, but it has not done so. Online has >>> not done so, and in many ways all we are doing online is time shifting
mostly.
When I got my first Freeview disk recorder at least fifteen years ago,
all I ever used it for was time shifting. Since then I can't remember
the last time I watched anything at the same time that it was
broadcast. Within the last five years my viewing has gradually
migrated to online, and the disk recorders have actually been switched
off since 31st December 2021 so for me online has already replaced
broadcasting entirely.
How do you avoid ads on commercial stations?
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The Americans are using frequencies in the Medium Wave band for combined analogue and Digital Broadcasting. It needs 15kHz channel separation,
though, so here, t would need the frequency allocation scheme to be changed.
How do you avoid ads on commercial stations?
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